Outside Centre Choices of the Home Nations
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Outside Centre Choices of the Home Nations
Lets look at who the board rate as the best Outside Centre possible for the Lions next year.
Pick Two Outside Centre from the Poll below.
Pick Two Outside Centre from the Poll below.
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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Re: Outside Centre Choices of the Home Nations
Not that I would vote for him, but surely Keith Earls should be in that poll as he was Ireland's starting 13?
Rory_Gallagher- Posts : 11324
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Re: Outside Centre Choices of the Home Nations
Plus, since in the inside centre poll there was a lot of off field choices (Beck, Henson etc) then Darren Cave should also feature in this one as an off field choice? He would be my choice for the form 13 in Europe, and had another fantastic game today..
Rory_Gallagher- Posts : 11324
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I was planning on adding Earls in the utility back and winger poll. Due to his diversity. He is sure to go in some capacity.
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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Yeah but a few players are in a few categories, and he was Ireland's 13 for the 6 nations.. plus any chance of having Cave in the poll?
Rory_Gallagher- Posts : 11324
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Yes ask a mod nicely and they might be kind enough to add cave and earls for you.
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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Re: Outside Centre Choices of the Home Nations
Tuilagi and Davies
gowales- Posts : 2942
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MODS! Could you please add Cave and Earls to this poll
Rory_Gallagher- Posts : 11324
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Re: Outside Centre Choices of the Home Nations
gowales wrote:Tuilagi and Davies
I think Bod will make it, was in great form yesterday.
Davies and bod are my two
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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Re: Outside Centre Choices of the Home Nations
Surely Ansbro should be the first choice representative for Scotland
timhen- Posts : 284
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Yes, could the mods also add Ansbro and De Luca?timhen wrote:Surely Ansbro should be the first choice representative for Scotland
George Carlin- Admin
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A moderator can, if you ask them nicely to help. I mentioned this earlier and I am not sure it was understood.
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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Could Biltong or RDS please add Cave, Earls, Ansbro and De Lukewarm to the list of available options in the poll (so that I can ignore De Luca properly)?
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I think the lions would be best served by using Tuilagi as a winger not a centre. He lacks the skills to play centre, doesn't pass, narrow view of the game, can't kick etcetcetc. As we all know.
But could be a very useful winger utilising his strength and pace.
But could be a very useful winger utilising his strength and pace.
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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Roberts did ok in SA with a very similar skill-set (according to you).maestegmafia wrote:I think the lions would be best served by using Tuilagi as a winger not a centre. He lacks the skills to play centre, doesn't pass, narrow view of the game, can't kick etcetcetc. As we all know.
But could be a very useful winger utilising his strength and pace.
These polls need sorting out as there are players missing and in the wrong polls. Can polls not be set up so the originator can change it himself when he makes these mistakes? Mods?
sugarNspikes- Posts : 864
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sugarNspikes wrote:Roberts did ok in SA with a very similar skill-set (according to you).maestegmafia wrote:I think the lions would be best served by using Tuilagi as a winger not a centre. He lacks the skills to play centre, doesn't pass, narrow view of the game, can't kick etcetcetc. As we all know.
But could be a very useful winger utilising his strength and pace.
These polls need sorting out as there are players missing and in the wrong polls. Can polls not be set up so the originator can change it himself when he makes these mistakes? Mods?
Three things regarding comparing Roberts to tuilagi, firstly Roberts was inside Center with bod outside secondly Roberts had bod with him, thirdly we were playing SA a team that did not have such a skillfull Center pairing as the wallabies will.
Tuilagi with Roberts inside would lack footballing ability, and passing. I would be very tempted to go with the opposite and have BOD and Jon Davies as the pairing. Maybe Tuilagi on a wing. Maybe with Roberts as a sub.
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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I wouldn't play Roberts at all so that wouldn't be an issue.
sugarNspikes- Posts : 864
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maestegmafia wrote:Three things regarding comparing Roberts to tuilagi, firstly Roberts was inside Center with bod outside secondly Roberts had bod with him, thirdly we were playing SA a team that did not have such a skillfull Center pairing as the wallabies will.
Tuilagi with Roberts inside would lack footballing ability, and passing. I would be very tempted to go with the opposite and have BOD and Jon Davies as the pairing. Maybe Tuilagi on a wing. Maybe with Roberts as a sub.
Surely playing outside centre the lack of a kicking game would matter even less? I'd have Davies and Tuilagi as the pairing at this moment. I'm also not sure why the Wallabies having a skilled centre paring makes a difference here. Tuilagi is very good in defence, and whatever ball skills he does or doesn't have don't affect what his opposite number can do with the ball.
thomh- Posts : 1816
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Re: Outside Centre Choices of the Home Nations
You guys see Tuilagi as a massive asset, I see him as one dimensional and lacking experience.
The tour may develop him as a player, he may improve next season. But at the moment I would say that he is in the running as a back up bulk alternative to a more experienced player, Jamie Roberts.
Time will tell. Though I think the fact that he looked dynamic in a pedestrian England backline that struggled to score tries is not a reason to consider him an outstanding talent.
Especially not after watching a far superior player like ODriscoll on Saturday.
The tour may develop him as a player, he may improve next season. But at the moment I would say that he is in the running as a back up bulk alternative to a more experienced player, Jamie Roberts.
Time will tell. Though I think the fact that he looked dynamic in a pedestrian England backline that struggled to score tries is not a reason to consider him an outstanding talent.
Especially not after watching a far superior player like ODriscoll on Saturday.
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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Well, maestegmafia. You might not rate him (or England or English players in general) but 606v2 has spoken and Manu seems to have quite a few backers
sugarNspikes- Posts : 864
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sugarNspikes wrote:Well, maestegmafia. You might not rate him (or England or English players in general) but 606v2 has spoken and Manu seems to have quite a few backers
I do rate Manu, but not as an outside Center in comparison to the other options available.
With regards to England players in general I value them in this context no differently to any other nations players. This isn't a thread for you to make accusations. Trolling is not welcome.
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maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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Trolling? Eh?
I was just responding to your dig at England. Ok, we'll agree to disagree re. Tuilagi.
By the way, when are the other candidates going to be added to the poll. Can you sort it out please maesteg? Cheers!
I was just responding to your dig at England. Ok, we'll agree to disagree re. Tuilagi.
By the way, when are the other candidates going to be added to the poll. Can you sort it out please maesteg? Cheers!
sugarNspikes- Posts : 864
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sugarNspikes wrote:Trolling? Eh?
I was just responding to your dig at England. Ok, we'll agree to disagree re. Tuilagi.
By the way, when are the other candidates going to be added to the poll. Can you sort it out please maesteg? Cheers!
Exactly my point I didn't take a dig at England...!
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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Re: Outside Centre Choices of the Home Nations
Fair enough, though quite a few of your comments on these poll articles do seem that way.
Maybe it's just the way you write or the way I'm reading them
Maybe it's just the way you write or the way I'm reading them
sugarNspikes- Posts : 864
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Thank you for the apology.
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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Oh, it wasn't an apology just an attempt to lighten up proceedings.
sugarNspikes- Posts : 864
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Re: Outside Centre Choices of the Home Nations
At the moment,
12. JD2
13. BOD
22. Roberts
Backup : Tuilangi
Though BOD still needs gametime to prove himself.
12. JD2
13. BOD
22. Roberts
Backup : Tuilangi
Though BOD still needs gametime to prove himself.
wales606- Posts : 10728
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Re: Outside Centre Choices of the Home Nations
wales606 wrote:At the moment,
12. JD2
13. BOD
22. Roberts
Backup : Tuilangi
Though BOD still needs gametime to prove himself.
Agree but BOD seems to be rejuvenated and on form. Let's hope it lasts next season as I think he has one more big year in him before retirement.
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Re: Outside Centre Choices of the Home Nations
BOD and Tuilagi. JD2 covering 12 and 13
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ChequeredJersey- Posts : 18707
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I'd take Tuilagi & BOD as 13 options and Roberts/Barritt at 12
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:I'd take Tuilagi & BOD as 13 options and Roberts/Barritt at 12
No JD2?
wales606- Posts : 10728
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Of course, Tuilagi mightn't even be England's 13 in 12 months time
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wales606 wrote:Sgt_Pooly wrote:I'd take Tuilagi & BOD as 13 options and Roberts/Barritt at 12
No JD2?
Not a huge fan of Davies tbh
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Re: Outside Centre Choices of the Home Nations
JD2 and BOD, I am not in favour of SH players even if they are good enough. JD2 is an inside centre as is S Williams but both are better than the other options in the list.
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glamorganalun wrote:JD2 and BOD, I am not in favour of SH players even if they are good enough. JD2 is an inside centre as is S Williams but both are better than the other options in the list.
I'm guessing you aren't a Faletau fan then..
Rory_Gallagher- Posts : 11324
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Davies is the best centre around at the moment. I picked him and Bod. With BOD theres a bit of hope on my part but if hes fit and playing well his partnership with Roberts as to be considered as well.
With Gatland as coach Roberts and Davies will definitly travel though, not that they dont deserve to.
With Gatland as coach Roberts and Davies will definitly travel though, not that they dont deserve to.
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Tuilagi & BOD but BOD needs to kick on a little if not JD
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Rory_Gallagher wrote:glamorganalun wrote:JD2 and BOD, I am not in favour of SH players even if they are good enough. JD2 is an inside centre as is S Williams but both are better than the other options in the list.
I'm guessing you aren't a Faletau fan then..
Correct, I was not happy during the last Lions tour with Flutey and Hamilton, the tour could become a joke next year with more players "qualifying" from the SH. I don't think Gatland is a good choice as head coach IMO.
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Re: Outside Centre Choices of the Home Nations
JD2 at 12 and BOD at 13. Davies is pretty under-rated in my book and BOD has looked very sharp since coming back.
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