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Post by Kenny Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:26 pm

Nominees for PFA Players' Player of the Year award for 2011-12 are: Sergio Aguero (Man City), Joe Hart (Man City), Scott Parker (Tottenham), Robin van Persie (Arsenal), Wayne Rooney (Man Utd), David Silva (Man City).

Nominees for Young Player of the Year award are: Sergio Aguero (Man City), GarethBale (Tottenham), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Daniel Sturridge (Chelsea), Kyle Walker (Tottenham), Danny Welbeck (Man Utd).

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Post by Crimey Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:32 pm

I'd give it to
Robin Van Persie
Sergio Aguero

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Post by Liam Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:47 pm

Robin Van Persie
Aguero

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Post by Kenny Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:47 pm

out of those nominated i would agree Crimey

Robin Van Persie
Sergio Aguero
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:59 pm

RVP
Aguero for me

I'm surprised there is no Newcastle players on there along with maybe Norwich/Swansea.
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Post by GG Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:06 pm

There's no Grant Holt Olly.....

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:08 pm

GG I can't believe it Wink

Nah he don't deserve to be on their, Ruddy has been our best player all season anyway
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Post by Gregers Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:30 pm

RVP

Ox

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Post by Hero Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:39 pm

RVP & Walker (Walker getting it as he's English)

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Post by cherriesfna Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:43 pm

WHERE IS HESKEY!
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Post by Guest Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:04 pm

shocking list, absolute disgrace!

How the hell is daniel strurridge there or oxlade??????? that young poy list is truly embarrasing and how joe hart beats kompany and tim krul to get on the list is beyond me

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:51 pm

Who else would you have in the YOP list then John? Krul is the only ommission I can think of (if he is indeed young enough to qualify)

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:43 pm

Where is Dempsey?
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Post by Smirnoffpriest Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:51 pm

John - while the Ox has shown loads of potential he's not even a mainstay in the Arsenal team let alone the best player in the league - Song and RVP have been our best players this year. (note - I'm not putting Song forward for the PFA award, just saying).

Ox has been nominated for the Young Players Award, which is as it should be.

I Think Krul and S Sinclair are unlucky

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Post by ncfc_Tooze Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:54 pm

Im suprised Pilkington isnt on the young player list.

Parker and Aguero are my picks though

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:57 pm

Smirnoffpriest wrote:John - while the Ox has shown loads of potential he's not even a mainstay in the Arsenal team let alone the best player in the league - Song and RVP have been our best players this year. (note - I'm not putting Song forward for the PFA award, just saying).

Ox has been nominated for the Young Players Award, which is as it should be.

I Think Krul and S Sinclair are unlucky

Ahh apologies John - reread your post and seen you were asking why he's nominated, not why isn't he nominated - oops

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:27 pm

that's ok mate but that both lists are clearly favouring the top clubs once again and arent a true representation.

There is no way daniel strurridge, gareth bale, joe hart or oxlade should be on these lists. Sturridge has been appaling this season, inept of any finishing ability, poor final ball, how many times he's lost the ball doing a trick that goes wrong?. He so good he's been benched and ramires played out wide. Oxlade, WTF??? no doubt the future star of english football but how many games has this kid played, especially in 2011?? barely anything. James McLean has had a huge impact this season and is nowhere to be seen. How Joe Hart is placed above Tim Krul actually makes me physically sick, once again big club bias. Finally what is gareth bale doing in that POY list, he's been quite frankly appaling since january, basically no goals and no assists. He's one dimensional bale and to a certain extent has been found out, thats why he has to come inside and has little effect with a poor right foot.

The list should of been - RVP, ROONEY, SILVA, KOMPANY, AGUERO, DEMPSEY WINNER - RVP

YPOY LIST - WALKER, WELBECK, AGUERO, MATA, KRUL, McClean WINNER - AGUERO

Seeing as the nominations are done like in March or woteva, that would classify Krul (24 only recently) and mata (24 in a couple of weeks) who would still of been 23 at nominations into these lists. thoughts?

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:33 pm

Many would say Welbeck has done nothing to deserve being ahead of Sturridge in the YOP list, as much as you don't seem to favour him he did have a strong first half of the season with plenty of punditry prase.

If anything I'd say the award biasedly favours attackers.

Your full list: Attacker, attacker, attacker, defender, attacker, midfielder.

Your YOP: Defener, attacker, attacker, attacker, goalie, midfielder.

Not sure if Mata and Krul fall foul of the age rules though (as you've alluded too).

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Post by Ent Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:49 pm

John wrote:that's ok mate but that both lists are clearly favouring the top clubs once again and arent a true representation.

There is no way daniel strurridge, gareth bale, joe hart or oxlade should be on these lists. Sturridge has been appaling this season, inept of any finishing ability, poor final ball, how many times he's lost the ball doing a trick that goes wrong?. He so good he's been benched and ramires played out wide. Oxlade, WTF??? no doubt the future star of english football but how many games has this kid played, especially in 2011?? barely anything. James McLean has had a huge impact this season and is nowhere to be seen. How Joe Hart is placed above Tim Krul actually makes me physically sick, once again big club bias. Finally what is gareth bale doing in that POY list, he's been quite frankly appaling since january, basically no goals and no assists. He's one dimensional bale and to a certain extent has been found out, thats why he has to come inside and has little effect with a poor right foot.

The list should of been - RVP, ROONEY, SILVA, KOMPANY, AGUERO, DEMPSEY WINNER - RVP

YPOY LIST - WALKER, WELBECK, AGUERO, MATA, KRUL, McClean WINNER - AGUERO

Seeing as the nominations are done like in March or woteva, that would classify Krul (24 only recently) and mata (24 in a couple of weeks) who would still of been 23 at nominations into these lists. thoughts?

The award is very prone to throwing up inconsistent nominees.

Its voted for in March, one problem.

All professional players get a vote i.e. premiership to league 2 - barring a cup tie the majority of players eligible (say 80%, as only 14 out of a 24 man squad can face an opponent in a 1 off game) haven't played against the favourites.

A standout candidate will have a huge percentage of the votes and result in erratic nominees e.g. if say 80% vote for RVP then a) no other arsenal player will get a vote and b) other players will get in on a few votes.

As long as the team of the season is decent and the winner of the POTY is deserving I'm usually content with these things.

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Post by Y2James Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:51 pm

RVP has to win for me (and Im a untied fan). He has been exceptional the past couple of years and carried the Arsenal untin Christmas when the rest of the squad started to pick up. Cant see anybody being even close to him. Rooney and Aguero for second and third in any order but way off RVP.

YPOY - Aguero is the stand out candidate for me but coule be any 3 for him, wellbeck and Ox.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:56 pm

YPOY - Aguero is the stand out candidate for me but coule be any 3 for him, wellbeck and Ox.
Ox-Chamb has rarely played and does not merit an award yet. Welbeck has far to go yet, too.
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Post by Smirnoffpriest Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:58 pm

John wrote:that's ok mate but that both lists are clearly favouring the top clubs once again and arent a true representation.

There is no way daniel strurridge, gareth bale, joe hart or oxlade should be on these lists. Sturridge has been appaling this season, inept of any finishing ability, poor final ball, how many times he's lost the ball doing a trick that goes wrong?. He so good he's been benched and ramires played out wide. Oxlade, WTF??? no doubt the future star of english football but how many games has this kid played, especially in 2011?? barely anything. James McLean has had a huge impact this season and is nowhere to be seen. How Joe Hart is placed above Tim Krul actually makes me physically sick, once again big club bias. Finally what is gareth bale doing in that POY list, he's been quite frankly appaling since january, basically no goals and no assists. He's one dimensional bale and to a certain extent has been found out, thats why he has to come inside and has little effect with a poor right foot.

The list should of been - RVP, ROONEY, SILVA, KOMPANY, AGUERO, DEMPSEY WINNER - RVP

YPOY LIST - WALKER, WELBECK, AGUERO, MATA, KRUL, McClean WINNER - AGUERO

Seeing as the nominations are done like in March or woteva, that would classify Krul (24 only recently) and mata (24 in a couple of weeks) who would still of been 23 at nominations into these lists. thoughts?

Can't really argue with your logic/arguement.

Though of course there will always be arguements about the selection of players Wink

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Post by Fernando Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:41 pm

Robin Van Persie has won PFA Player of the Year

Kyle Walker has won PFA Young Player of the Year but it's feared that it may be a fix after several massive bets were placed on the 33/1 outsider

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Post by Fernando Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:43 pm

PFA Team of the Year

Hart; Walker, Kompany, Coloccini, Baines; Silva, Yaya Toure, Parker, Bale; Rooney, van Persie.

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Post by Hero Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:23 pm

Hero wrote:RVP & Walker (Walker getting it as he's English)

Can I just say I called it.

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Post by dummy_half Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:11 am

Fernando wrote:PFA Team of the Year

Hart; Walker, Kompany, Coloccini, Baines; Silva, Yaya Toure, Parker, Bale; Rooney, van Persie.

wtf does Dempsey have to do to get into that team - turned Fulham's season from one of potential struggle to them being in the top half of the table and level on points with Liverpool. Better than Parker has been at least for the second half of the season.

I'd also have Ivanovic ahead of Walker, although at least that's a tight call.
Krul, Ruddy or Vorm ahead of Hart (noting that JH plays behind a generally solid defence so doesn't get the same opportunity to shine)

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:32 am

Yes your correct about the massive bets being placed on Walked @33/1. It's being investigated currently. This whole team of the year and nominations is ridiculous. It's set a the wrong time and missed the period which matters most in a season - the run in, where huge games are found and the real quality players of the season shine through, not just for a couple of months before xmas like Bale or Walker.

There is no way Walker should have won this award, it's ridiculous. I'm hoping he's not England's right back ahead of Richards. RVP obviously deserved the win and it looks like the toll of the season has hit him now as he's on a big goaless run now.

As for the team of the year, it's there or thereabouts in representing the best XI of the season. I find it funny how there's three Tottenham players compared to one Newcastle player, doesn't add up, and just emphasises why the nominations should not be held in March with two important months missed out.

My team would of been - Krul, Richards, Kompany, Coloccini, Baines, Dempsey, Yaya Toure, Silva, Parker, Rooney, RVP - something like that.

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:56 am

Walker better than Aguero?

Give over Jokers! Laugh

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Post by Beer Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:03 am

Bale has been dogmuck since January!

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