The Dew Drop Inn Virtual Rugby Pub, Edinburgh

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Welcome to the Virtual Rugby Pub - a place where you can come in for a sly beverage and discuss whatever's on your mind, or just eavesdrop on the regulars if you fancy a break from all the rugby chat. The pub has ventured to Edinburgh, as the team has made their first ever Heineken Cup Semi Final.

The only rule in this pub is one of mutual respect for everyone in it, oh and no defacing the pictures of Martyn Williams, Shane Williams, Paddy Jackson, Paul O'Connell and Tim Visser.



Old Pub: https://www.606v2.com/t27886p1000-the-dew-drop-inn-virtual-rugby-pub-belfast#1157191

Notch wrote:Those Presbyterians have the best seats in the house MrsP. No, I'm not talking about the New Stand- I'm talking about that church on Mount Merrion that looks out over the pitch.

They're C of I!

Look at me getting confused in my old age... six of one...

We have friends who were suggesting that they could organise a prayer meeting for 6pm in a Friday night in that church.

Sure, when it was over they could all hang around for a wee cup of tea.

For about 2 hours!

Rava wrote:

MrsP wrote:Notch,

You just watch who you're calling a Presbyterian!!!



More for Dreamer!

Nothing wrong with being a Presbyterian

Darn right Rava....sure Ravenhill would be near empty without them....... .....

MrsP wrote:

Notch wrote:Those Presbyterians have the best seats in the house MrsP. No, I'm not talking about the New Stand- I'm talking about that church on Mount Merrion that looks out over the pitch.

They're C of I!

I used to be C of I

Well that makes sense. Watching Ulster play is the only time I ever think of praying!

The church we went to used to be a Presbyterian church, but by the time my parents joined it had become an evangelical church. It was the least typical evangelical church you can imagine. The only time anyone clapped was to wake up the organist.

red_stag wrote:Sure tje English rugby team are Samoan why shouldnt St George by foreign too.

Oi, no 'devaluing our Saint's day ye wumming rascal.

Notch wrote:Reminds me of the lyrics from the Bus Driver's Song From Flight of the Conchords;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASY7boVoDCQ

But do you see up there?
The banner hanging in the air?
The Presbyterian Fair
Well, I never go, there's too many Presbyterians there

A bit ironic from the Conchords really, the Presbytarian church in NZ is rather in decline (they've merged with the Methodists in many areas). Growing up I used to attend Methodist services whenever I stayed with my (paternal) grandparents, and Catholic services with my Mum. Confused.com .

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:The church we went to used to be a Presbyterian church, but by the time my parents joined it had become an evangelical church. It was the least typical evangelical church you can imagine. The only time anyone clapped was to wake up the organist.

That sounds a world apart from my evangelical church experiences in Scotland with my family. It was all clapping, energy, guitars and sheer earnestness. That was about the time I stopped going. I'm too sardonic to embrace that kind of sincere enthusiasm!

Kiwireddevil wrote:

Notch wrote:Reminds me of the lyrics from the Bus Driver's Song From Flight of the Conchords;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASY7boVoDCQ

But do you see up there?
The banner hanging in the air?
The Presbyterian Fair
Well, I never go, there's too many Presbyterians there

A bit ironic from the Conchords really, the Presbytarian church in NZ is rather in decline (they've merged with the Methodists in many areas). Growing up I used to attend Methodist services whenever I stayed with my (paternal) grandparents, and Catholic services with my Mum. Confused.com .

Would the Presbyterians be mainly around Dunedin and Otago, with the strong Scottish influence there?

My grandparents' church was a Baptist church and much more like what you describe, Notch. I never felt quite comfortable with all that emoting. I've always really liked the sound (sound is actually the wrong word) of Quaker meetings, where they sit in silence and wait for God to speak to them.

Indeed. More sincere, quiet reflection would be more in line with my personality.

They should put up signs at Quaker meeting houses: 'leave your tambourines at reception.'

Have drank half a mug of tea before realising the milk was expired since Friday

Still gonna finish the cup though. Its just more chewy.

Dreamer!!!!!!!

Don't drink the Stag made for you!!!!

He put cheating Munster milk in it!!!!!!!!

Morning all, hope everyone had good weekends. Happy St George's Day to all our English regs

Strong for me pls

If the milk didn't smell, Stag, then it'll be fine. That's the only test you need to do.

MrsP wrote:Dreamer!!!!!!!

Don't drink the Stag made for you!!!!

He put cheating Munster milk in it!!!!!!!!

One sip and you shall infringe forever and a day.

Also DREAMER can we get Paul O'Connell's picture on the pub wall. He has been given the Freedom of Limerick City

Notch wrote:

Kiwireddevil wrote:

Notch wrote:Reminds me of the lyrics from the Bus Driver's Song From Flight of the Conchords;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASY7boVoDCQ

But do you see up there?
The banner hanging in the air?
The Presbyterian Fair
Well, I never go, there's too many Presbyterians there

A bit ironic from the Conchords really, the Presbytarian church in NZ is rather in decline (they've merged with the Methodists in many areas). Growing up I used to attend Methodist services whenever I stayed with my (paternal) grandparents, and Catholic services with my Mum. Confused.com .

Would the Presbyterians be mainly around Dunedin and Otago, with the strong Scottish influence there?

Largely yes. Though it's worth noting that Dunedin also (according to Census results) had the largest per-capita population of Jedi (which I suspect has something to do with the high proportion of students in the city attending Otago Uni )

The population divides up roughly as
No religion 1.3m
Anglican 550k
Catholic 510k
Not stated/objected to answering 500k
Presbytarian 401k (insert US pension scheme joke here)
Christian not further defined 190k
Methodist 120k
Hindu 60k
Baptist 55k
Buddhist 52k
Ratana (Maori spiritualist Christianity) 50k
LDS 43k
Islam 36k
"Response outside scope" 30k (aka Jedi - it was an internet joke campaign in 2001 and lingered through to the 2006 Census http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa041601a.htm)

red_stag wrote:Also DREAMER can we get Paul O'Connell's picture on the pub wall. He has been given the Freedom of Limerick City

He bloody needs it too, everything costs a fortune down there......

THanks KIWI.

RODDERS ah it just seems that way. Convert from pounds and your grand.

<cough> Happy St Georges Day

HOUND – I’ve a chariot here, you know where you can stick it

PenfroPete wrote:<cough> Happy St Georges Day

HOUND – I’ve a chariot here, you know where you can stick it

Hound is too much of a gentleman Penfro, but I believe his response would be something like

Ulsters number one fan on a flying visit to Ravers;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/golf/17797398

red_stag wrote:RODDERS ah it just seems that way. Convert from pounds and your grand.

That must be some exchange rate you're getting on those euros stag!

What did ye think of ROG being nominated for the IRUPA player of the year?

Thought it was a load of me bollix personally, far more deserving Munster players should have made the cut.

This is heartwarming;

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0423/1224315050066.html

He was so lucky! Normally these stories don't have a happy ending.

I just have a sneaky feeling Edinburgh could just pull it off the weekend. Is be gutted if they did as I want Ulster to make it. It's just a feeling I canny shake

I think ROG has been rubbish in 2012. He had one or two good matches in the early rounds of Heineken Cup such as the Scarlets games and dropped the two vital matches.

However thats a rubbish call.

Ha, just thought of this from the Simpsons:

https://youtu.be/URSRa8zf_LU

Mickado wrote:What did ye think of ROG being nominated for the IRUPA player of the year?

It's a political pick man. It's all part of an IRFU conspiracy to brainwash your average Irish punter that ROG is still worth a place in the Irish squad and still Sextons equal .

It should have been O'Connell, Botha, Ryan or Coughlan.

I would have picked BJ Botha, theres a precedent with Nacewa winning.

But this is the Players Player if the Year- so...

[quote="Kiwireddevil"]

PenfroPete wrote: Hound is too much of a gentleman Penfro, but I believe his response would be something like

Nah mate, his response would be "I knew you'd come back with that" (The Westgate Hotel, post Amlin Cup Final 2011 )

Notch wrote:I would have picked BJ Botha, theres a precedent with Nacewa winning.

But this is the Players Player if the Year- so...

True. Fez is the champion elect anyway so it’s a moot point.

I see the RDS are looking to sell the naming rights of the main arena to raise €17m to upgrade to a 23k seater.
Happy days, couldn’t care less what it’s called, I’ll still call it the RDS and we get a new stand for nout. Seems like a sweet deal to me.

The stupidest name change was when they did up the Arms Park and decided to call it the Millennium Stadium. Stupid on three counts: one, the name Cardiff Arms Park was known to rugby fans around the world and there's no reason why they couldn't have kept it; two, because the new name only tells you when it was built; and three, the Welsh translation - Stadiwm y Mileniwm - makes Welsh look like Pidgin English.

Lucky - they had to have Millennium in the title to secuer lottery funding. Technically the old stadium was the National Stadium, Cardiff Arms Park (Cardiff Arms Park still exists and is home to Cardiff RFC)

Could have gone with Stadiwm y Mileniwm, Parc yr Arfau Caerdydd though

4) they didn’t get any money out of it.

Back in the 90’s everything was “millennium”, there’s the millennium bridge in London, there was a millennium clock in Dublin etc.

The Millennium stadium is now iconic though, it’s by far the least naff thing/place named after an arbitrary and inevitable clicking over of the odometer.

Luckless I think it has been excellent in conveying this isnt a rebrand of the old Arms Park but rather a new modern facility in central Cardiff.

Certainly has done no harm to anyone and has gone on to hold four ERC finals, the RWC final and loads of football finals too.

I didn't know that about the lottery funding, Penfro. And it's true that the Millennium Stadium is known to rugby fans around the world now anyway.

They should have nominated ROG as an inductee into the Hall of Fame. Maybe the penny would have dropped then

Rava wrote:They should have nominated ROG as an inductee into the Hall of Fame. Maybe the penny would have dropped then

There actually a large grain of truth to that joke.

red_stag wrote:Luckless I think it has been excellent in conveying this isnt a rebrand of the old Arms Park but rather a new modern facility in central Cardiff.

Certainly has done no harm to anyone and has gone on to hold four ERC finals, the RWC final and loads of football finals too.

I agree. The MS is much more than just the Welsh National Stadium. It a World renowned thing even more so than any of the others.

That's an excellent thought provoker from Matt Williams, but he's wrong. It is by no means a "workable set of laws" and it is not the fault of "interpretation". THE FACT THAT INTERPRETATION IS REQUIRED TO MAKE THEM WORK PROVES THE LAWS ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH ahem

Touch judges did three things - they watched where the ball went out, they looked out for sly punches and foul play, and they watched the offside line for the ref.

Assistant refs are asked to look out for more, but can't now manage the above basics!

Anyway "chercher les regles" is my new motto.

Lucky, nothing (much) was done to the Arms Park. The National Stadium however, is a different matter.


Kiwi, thanks for my 'response' to Penfro

The 'chariot' thing is exactly what I would have expected though.

Glas a du wrote:

Anyway "chercher les regles" is my new motto.

"Find the rules"?

I suspect (according to the my French co-worker) you mean "changer les règles"

And another thing, Parc Yr Arfau is a Poopie translation. Cardiff Arms Park means the field belonging to the Cardiff Arms pub and strictly speaking should be referred to as The Cardiff Arms' Park. Parc y Tafarn would be far better translation as there is no way you can translate Cardiff Arms as its a name and Parc y Cardiff Arms just sounds silly.

I'm going to lie down.

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:I didn't know that about the lottery funding, Penfro. And it's true that the Millennium Stadium is known to rugby fans around the world now anyway.

Lucky, at least they didn't call it the "Y2K Arena"... now that would have been limited thinking.

Hound, wasn't it known officially as the National Stadium, Cardiff Arms Park? That's how it's billed at the start of the 'Crowning Years' video, anyway.

Kiwireddevil wrote:

Glas a du wrote:

Anyway "chercher les regles" is my new motto.

"Find the rules"?

I suspect (according to the my French co-worker) you mean "changer les règles"

There is a well know French saying "chercher le femme" - literally find the woman. It means that if there's trouble you can bet it will be female at the root, hence find her and you understand the problem. Or in modern parlance "sex creates issues". I'm just adapting that to Rugby. It's not the players, the refs or the coaches, its the laws. There are too many of t hem and they contra dict each other