NFL Draft 2012 discussion
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NFL Draft 2012 discussion
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Round 1
Round 1
- Spoiler:
- 1 - Indianapolis Colts: Andrew Luck, QB
2 - Washington Redskins: Robert Griffin III, QB
3 - Cleveland Browns: Trent Richardson, RB
4 - Minnesota Vikings: Matt Kalil, OT
5 - Jacksonville Jaguars: Justin Blackmon, WR
6 - Dallas Cowboys: Morris Claiborne, CB
7 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Mark Barron, S
8 - Miami Dolphins: Ryan Tannehill, QB
9 - Carolina Panthers: Luke Kuechly, LB
10 - Buffalo Bills: Stephon Gilmore, CB
11 - Kansas City Chiefs: Dontari Poe, DT
15 - Philadelphia Eagles: Fletcher Cox, DT
13 - Arizona Cardinals: Michael Floyd, WR
14 - St. Louis Rams: Michael Brockers, DT
15 - Seattle Seahawks: Bruce Irvin, DE
16 - New York Jets: Quinton Coples, DE
17 - Cincinnati Bengals: Dre Kirkpatrick, CB
18 - San Diego Chargers: Melvin Ingram, DE
19 - Chicago Bears: Shea McClellin, DE/OLB
20 - Tennessee Titans: Kendall Wright, WR
21 - New England Patriots: Chandler Jones, DE
22 - Cleveland Browns: Brandon Weeden, QB
23 - Detroit Lions: Riley Reiff, OT
24 - Pittsburgh Steelers: David DeCastro, OG
25 - New England Patriots: Dont'a Hightower, LB
26 - Houston Texans: Whitney Mercilus, DE
27 - Cincinnati Bengals: Kevin Zeitler, G
28 - Green Bay Packers: Nick Perry, DE
29 - Minnesota Vikings: Harrison Smith, S
30 - San Francisco 49ers: AJ Jenkins, WR
31 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Doug Martin, RB
32 - New York Giants: David Wilson, RB
- Spoiler:
- 33 - St. Louis Rams - Brian Quick, WR, Appalachian State
34 - Indianapolis Colts - Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford
35 - Baltimore Ravens - Courtney Upshaw, OLB, Alabama
36 - Denver Broncos - Derek Wolfe, DT, Cincinnati
37 - Cleveland Browns - Mitchell Schwartz, OT, California
38 - Jacksonville Jaguars - Andre Branch, DE, Clemson
39 - St. Louis Rams - Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama
40 - Carolina Panthers - Amini Silatolu, OT, Midwestern State
41 - Buffalo Bills - Cordy Glenn, OT, Georgia
42 - Miami Dolphins - Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford
43 - New York Jets - Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech
44 - Kansas City Chiefs - Jeff Allen, OT, Illinois
45 - Chicago Bears - Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina
46 - Philadelphia Eagles - Mychal Kendricks, MLB, California
47 - Seattle Seahawks - Bobby Wagner, OLB, Utah State
48 - New England Patriots - Tavon Wilson, S, Illinois
49 - San Diego Chargers - Kendall Reyes, DT/DE, Connecticut
50 - St. Louis Rams - Isaiah Pead, RB, Cincinnati
51 - Green Bay Packers - Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State
52 - Tennessee Titans - Zach Brown, OLB, North Carolina
53 - Cincinnati Bengals - Devon Still, DT, Penn State
54 - Detroit Lions - Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma
55 - Atlanta Falcons - Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin
56 - Pittsburgh Steelers - Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State
57 - Denver Broncos - Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona State
58 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Lavonte David, LB, Nebraska
59 - Philadelphia Eagles - Vinny Curry, DE, Marshall
60 - Baltimore Ravens - Kelechi Osemele, OT, Iowa State
61 - San Francisco 49ers - LaMichael James, RB, Oregon
62 - Green Bay Packers - Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
63 - New York Giants - Rueben Randle, WR, LSU
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- 64. Indianapolis Colts - Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson
65. St. Louis Rams - Trumaine Johnson, CB, Montana
66. Minnesota Vikings - Josh Robinson, CB, Central Florida
67. Denver Broncos - Ronnie Hillman, RB, San Diego State
68. Houston Texans - Devier Posey - Wide Receiver - Ohio State
69. Buffalo Bills - T.J. Graham - Wide Receiver - N.C. State
70. Jacksonville Jaguars -Bryan Anger - Punter - California
71. Washington Redskins - Josh Leribeus - Guard - SMU
72. Miami Dolphins - Olivier Vernon - Defensive End - Miami
73. San Diego Chargers - Brandon Taylor - Safety - LSU
74. Kansas City Cheifs - Donald Stephenson - Tackle - Oklahoma
75. Seattle Seahawks - Russell Wilson - Quarterback - Wisconsin
76. Houston Texans - Brandon Brooks - Guard - Miami (Ohio)
77. New York Jets - Demario Davis - Linebacker - Arkansas State
78. Miami Dolphins - Michael Egnew - Tight End - Missouri
79. Chicago Bears - Brandon Hardin - Safety - Oregon State
80. Arizona Cardinals - Jamell Fleming - Cornerback - Oklahoma
81. Dallas Cowboys - Tyrone Crawford - Defensive End - Boise State
82. Tennessee Titans - Mike Martin - Defensive Tackle - Michigan
83. Cincinnati Bengals - Mohamed Sanu - Wide Receiver - Rutgers
84. Baltimore Ravens - Bernard Pierce - Running back - Temple
85. Detroit Lions - Dwight Bentley - Cornerback - Louisiana-Lafayette
86. Pittsburgh Steelers - Sean Spence - Linebacker - Miami
87. Cleveland Browns - John Hughes - Defensive Tackle - Cincinnati
88. Philadelphia Eagles - Nick Foles - Quarterback - Arizona
89. New Orleans Saints - Akiem Hicks - Defensive End - Regina
90. New England Patriots - Jake Bequette - Defensive End - Arkansas
91. Atlanta Falcons - Lamar Holmes - Offensive Tackle - Southern Miss.
92. Indianapolis Colts - T.Y. Hilton - Wide Receiver - Florida International
93. Cincinnati Bengals - Brandon Thompson - Defensive Tackle - Clemson
94. New York Giants - Jayron Hosley - Cornerback - Virginia Tech
95. Oakland Raiders - Tony Bergstrom - Offensive Tackle - Utah
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- 96. St. Louis Rams - Chris Givens, WR, Wake Forest
97. Miami Dolphins - Lamar Miller, RB, Miami
98. Baltimore Ravens - Gino Gradkowski, G, Delaware
99. Houston Texans - Ben Jones, C, Georgia
100. Cleveland Browns - Travis Benjamin, WR, Miami
101. Denver Broncos - Omar Bolden, CB, Arizona State
102. Washington Redskins - Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State
103. Carolina Panthers - Frank Alexander, DE, Oklahoma
104. Carolina Panthers - Joe Adams, WR, Arkansas
105. Buffalo Bills - Nigel Bradham, LB, Florida State
106. Seattle Seahawks - Robert Turbin, RB, Utah State
107. Kansas City Chiefs - Devon Wylie, WR, Fresno State
108. Denver Broncos - Philip Blake, C, Baylor
109. Pittsburgh Steelers - Alameda Ta'amu, DT, Baylor
110. San Diego Chargers - Ladarius Green, TE, UL-Lafayette
111. Chicago Bears - Evan Rodriguez, TE/FB, Temple
112. Arizona Cardinals - Bobby Massie, OT, Ole Miss
113. Dallas Cowboys - Kyle Wilber, OLB, Wake Forest
114. Seattle Seahawks - Jaye Howard, DT, Florida
115. Tennessee Titans - Coty Sensabaugh, CB, Clemson
116. Cincinnati Bengals - Orson Charles, TE, Georgia
117. San Francisco 49ers - Joe Looney, G, Wake Forest
118. Minnesota Vikings - Jarius Wright, WR, Arkansas
119. Washington Redskins - Keenan Robinson, OLB, Texas
120. Cleveland Browns - James-Michael Johnson, MLB, Nevada
121. Houston Texans - Keshawn Martin, WR, Michigan State
122. New Orleans Saints - Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin
123. Philadelphia Eagles - Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia
124. Buffalo Bills - Ron Brooks, CB, LSU
125. Detroit Lions - Ronnell Lewis, DE/OLB, Oklahoma
126. Houston Texans - Jared Crick, DT, Nebraska
127. New York Giants - Adrien Robinson, TE, Cincinnati
128. Minnesota Vikings - Rhett Ellison, TE/FB, Southern California
129. Oakland Raiders - Miles Burris, OLB, San Diego State
130. Baltimore Ravens - Christian Thompson, S, South Carolina State
131. New York Giants - Brandon Mosley, OT, Auburn
132. Green Bay Packers - Mike Daniels, DT, Iowa
133. Green Bay Packers - Jerron McMillian, S, Maine
134. Minnesota Vikings - Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas
135. Dallas Cowboys - Matt Johnson, S, Eastern Washington
- Spoiler:
- 136. Indianapolis Colts - Josh Chapman - Defensive Tackle - Alabama
137. Denver Broncos - Malik Jackson - Defensive End - Tennessee
138. Detroit Lions - Tahir Whitehead - Outside Linebacker - Temple
139. Minnesota Vikings - Robert Blanton - Cornerback - Notre Dame
140. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Najee Goode - Linebacker - West Virginia
141. Washington Redskins - Adam Gettis - Guard - Iowa
142. Jacksonville Jaguars - Brandon Marshall - Linebacker - Nevada
143. Carolina Panthers - Josh Norman - Cornerback - Coastal Carolina
144. Buffalo Bills - Zebrie Sanders - Offensive Tackle - Florida State
145. Tennessee Titans - Taylor Thompson - Tight End - SMU
146. Kansas City Chiefs - De'Quan Menzie - Cornerback - Alabama
147. Buffalo Bills - Tank Carder - Linebacker - TCU
148. Detroit Lions - Chris Greenwood - Cornerback - Albion
149. San Diego Chargers - Johnnie Troutman - Guard - Penn State
150. St. Louis Rams - Rokevious Watkins - Offensive Tackle - South Carolina
151. Arizona Cardinals - Senio Kelemete - Offensive Tackle Washington
152. Dallas Cowboys - Danny Coale - Wide Receiver - Virginia Tech
153. Philadelphia Eagles - Dennis Kelly - Offensive Tackle - Purdue
154. Seattle Seahawks - Korey Toomer - Linebacker - Idaho
155. Miami Dolphins - Josh Kaddu - Linebacker - Oregon
156. Cincinnati Bengals - Shaun Prater - Cornerback - Iowa
157. Atlanta Falcons - Bradie Ewing - Fullback - Wisconsin
158. Oakland Raiders - Jack Crawford - Defensive End - Penn State
159. Pittsburgh Steelers - Chris Rainey - Running Back - Florida
160. Cleveland Browns - Ryan Miller - Guard - Colorado
161. Houston Texans - Randol Bullock - Kicker - Texas A&M
162. New Orleans Saints - Corey White - Safety - Samford
163. Green Bay Packers - Terrell Manning - Linebacker - N.C. State
164. Atlanta Falcons - Jonathan Massaquoi - Defensive End - Troy
165. San Francisco 49ers - Darius Fleming - Linebacker - Notre Dame
166. Cincinnati Bengals - Marvin Jones - Wide Receiver - California
167. Cincinnati Bengals - George Iloka - Safety - Boise State
168. Oakland Raiders - Juron Criner - Wide Receiver - Arizona
169. Baltimore Ravens - Asa Jackson - Cornerback - Cal. Poly
170. Indianapolis Colts - Vick Ballard - Running Back - Mississippi State
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- 171. St. Louis Rams - Greg Zuerlein, K, Missouri Western
172. Seattle Seahawks - Jeremy Lane, CB, Northwestern State
173. Washington Redskins - Alfred Morris, RB, Florida Atlantic
174. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Keith Tandy, CB, West Virginia
175. Minnesota Vikings - Blair Walsh, K, Georgia
176. Jacksonville Jaguars - Mike Harris, CB, Florida State
177. Arizona Cardinals - Justin Bethel, CB, Presbyterian
178. Buffalo Bills - Mark Asper, G, Oregon
179. New Orleans Saints - Andrew Tiller, G, Syracuse
180. San Francisco 49ers - Trenton Robinson, S, Michigan State
181. Seattle Seahawks - Winston Guy, S/LB, Kentucky
182. Kansas City Chiefs - Cyrus Gray, RB, Texas A&M
183. Miami Dolphins - B.J. Cunningham, WR, Michigan State
184. Chicago Bears - Isaiah Frey, CB, Nevada
185. Arizona Cardinals - Ryan Lindley, QB, San Diego State
186. Dallas Cowboys - James Hanna, TE, Oklahoma
187. New York Jets - Josh Bush, S, Wake Forest
188. Denver Broncos - Danny Trevathan, OLB, Kentucky
189. Oakland Raiders - Christo Bilukidi, DT, Georgia State
190. Tennessee Titans - Markelle Martin, S, Oklahoma State
191. Cincinnati Bengals - Dan Herron, RB, Ohio State
192. Atlanta Falcons - Charles Mitchell, S, Mississippi State
193. Washington Redskins - Tom Compton, OT, South Dakota
194. Philadelphia Eagles - Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa
195. Houston Texans - Nick Mondek, OT, Purdue
196. Detroit Lions - Jonte Green, DB, New Mexico State
197. New England Patriots - Nate Ebner, DB, Ohio State
198. Baltimore Ravens - Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami
199. San Francisco 49ers - Jason Slowey, C, Western Oregon
200. Philadelphia Eagles - Brandon Washington, G, Miami
201. New York Giants - Matt McCants, OT, UAB
202. New York Jets - Terrance Ganaway, RB, Baylor
203. New York Jets - Robert T. Griffin, G, Baylor
204. Cleveland Browns - Emmanuel Acho, OLB, Texas
205. Cleveland Browns - Billy Winn, DT, Boise State
206. Indianapolis Colts - LaVon Brazill, WR, Ohio
207. Carolina Panthers - Brad Nortman, P, Wisconsin
- Spoiler:
- 208. Indianapolis Colts - Justin Anderson OT, Georgia
209. St. Louis Rams - Aaron Brown, LB, Hawaii
210. Minnesota Vikings - Audi Cole, LB, NC State
211. Tennessee Titans - Scott Solomon, DE, Rice
212. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Michael Smith, RB, Rice
213. Washington Redskins - Richard Crawford, DB, SMU
214. Indianapolis Colts - Tim Fugger, DE, Vanderbilt
215. Miami Dolphins - Kheeston Randall, DE, Vanderbilt
216. Carolina Panthers - D.J. Campbell, FS, California
217. Washington Redskins - Jordan Bernstine, CB, Iowa
218. Kansas City Chiefs - Jerome Long, DT, San Diego State
219. Minnesota Vikings - Trevor Guyton, DE, California
220. Chicago Bears - Greg McCoy, CB, TCU
221. Arizona Cardinals - Nate Potter, OT, Boise State
222. Dallas Cowboys - Caleb McSurdy, ILB, Montana
223. Detroit Lions - Travis Lewis, OLB, Oklahoma
224. New England Patriots - Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska
225. Seattle Seahawks - J.R. Sweezy, DE, NC State
226. San Diego Chargers - David Molk, C, Michigan
227. Miami Dolphins - Rishard Matthews, WR, Nevada
228. Jacksonville Jaguars - Jeris Pendleton, DT, Ashland
229. Philadelphia Eagles - Bryce Brown, RB, Kansas State
230. Oakland Raiders - Nathan Stupar, OLB, Penn State
231. Pittsburgh Steelers - Toney Clemons, WR, Colorado
232. Seattle Seahawks - Greg Scruggs, DE, Louisville
233. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Drake Dunsmore, TE, Northwestern
234. New Orleans Saints - Marcel Jones, OT, Nebraska
235. New England Patriots - Jeremy Ebert, WR, Northwestern
236. Baltimore Ravens - Deangelo Tyson, DE, Georgia
237. San Francisco 49ers - Cam Johnson, DE, Virginia
238. Kansas City Chiefs - Junior Hemingway, WR, Michigan
239. New York Giants - Markus Kuhn, DT, NC State
240. Pittsburgh Steelers - David Paulson, TE, Oregon
241. Green Bay Packers - Andrew Datko, OT, Florida State
242. New York Jets - Antonio Allen, SS, South Carolina
243. Green Bay Packers - B.J. Coleman, QB, Tennessee-Chattanooga
244. New York Jets - Jordan White, WR, Western Michigan
245. Cleveland Browns - Trevin Wade, CB, Arizona
246. Pittsburgh Steelers - Terrence Frederick, CB, Texas A&M
247. Cleveland Browns - Brad Smelley, TE, Alabama
248. Pittsburgh Steelers - Kelvin Beachum, OT, SMU
249. Atlanta Falcons - Travian Robertson, DT, South Carolina
250. San Diego Chargers - Edwin Baker, RB, Michigan State
251. Buffalo Bills - John Potter, K, Western Michigan
252. St. Louis Rams - Daryl Richardson, RB, Abilene Christian
253. Indianapolis Colts - Chandler Harnish, QB, Northern Illinois
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mikeygnfl- Posts : 3032
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Rumours of Jacksonville trading up for Blackmon, Vikings the likely trade partner.
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Two surprise picks on day one
#16 Seattle Seahawks – Bruce Irvin, West Virginia, DEI honestly wasn’t totally shocked about Irvin going this high, had read rumours of him being high on a number of teams boards as the best pure pass rusher in the draft. Had also heard from someone who I consider very credible that the Chicago Bears were high on him and I would not have been surprised to see them select him at #19 (if he was there), they did end up going DE in Shea McClellin.
I’ll be interested to see exactly how Seattle utilise him in year one and how much playing time he receives. I think some will claim #16 is too early for a pass rush specialist who will likely be situational but with teams spending more time in sub to defend the pass Irvin could easily see the field 60-70% of the time even in a situational role.
His Combine results are very similar to Von Miller’s.
#30 San Francisco 49ers – AJ Jenkins, Illinois, WR
This one was a shock to me as I had not read or heard anything that suggested Jenkins in the 1st was a possibility. I had him in my second group of receivers behind Blackmon, Floyd and Wright (only three WR I gave a 1st round grade). He did have a good Combine and followed it up with good shuttle and 3 cone times at his pro day.
Here are my initial observations on Jenkins which I wrote in the draft prospects thread back in October,
There were other surprises in the 1st round but these are the two which will likely be seen as the biggest shocks.
#16 Seattle Seahawks – Bruce Irvin, West Virginia, DEI honestly wasn’t totally shocked about Irvin going this high, had read rumours of him being high on a number of teams boards as the best pure pass rusher in the draft. Had also heard from someone who I consider very credible that the Chicago Bears were high on him and I would not have been surprised to see them select him at #19 (if he was there), they did end up going DE in Shea McClellin.
I’ll be interested to see exactly how Seattle utilise him in year one and how much playing time he receives. I think some will claim #16 is too early for a pass rush specialist who will likely be situational but with teams spending more time in sub to defend the pass Irvin could easily see the field 60-70% of the time even in a situational role.
His Combine results are very similar to Von Miller’s.
#30 San Francisco 49ers – AJ Jenkins, Illinois, WR
This one was a shock to me as I had not read or heard anything that suggested Jenkins in the 1st was a possibility. I had him in my second group of receivers behind Blackmon, Floyd and Wright (only three WR I gave a 1st round grade). He did have a good Combine and followed it up with good shuttle and 3 cone times at his pro day.
Here are my initial observations on Jenkins which I wrote in the draft prospects thread back in October,
It’s true that inconsistent QB play at Illinois did hurt his production so perhaps he was flying a bit under the radar because of this. His 3 cone and shuttle would suggest better fluidity and quicker COD in his routes than I observed.WR AJ Jenkins, Illinois, 6'0, 190lbs
Jenkins is a prospect who has been on the rise lately. He has good hands and does a good job plucking the ball away from his body. Shows an ability to feel zone coverage and in the game I watched could have made a couple of big plays if the passes hadn't been overthrown. Shows decent body control and is somewhat elusive after the catch. My biggest concern with Jenkins is that he often looks to be decelerating when making his cuts. I'll have to watch him again but right now i'm neither high nor low on Jenkins.
There were other surprises in the 1st round but these are the two which will likely be seen as the biggest shocks.
twelve283- Posts : 949
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Is anybody staying up to watch the draft tonight so they may want the chatbox on? Starts an hour earlier tonight kicking off at 12.
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was it an 11pm start last year?
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il be staying up for both rounds but don't think many others will
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I will Derby! Put it on son!
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I probably will. Unlike this morning, I don't have to get up early so will probably watch a bit more tonight.Derbyblue wrote:Is anybody staying up to watch the draft tonight so they may want the chatbox on? Starts an hour earlier tonight kicking off at 12.
I still haven't had a chance to have a proper look at the 1st round. Had a quick look this morning. Surprised that the Browns went for Weeden at 22nd. I have read some good reports on AJ Jenkins but didn't see him going at 30th. It will be interesting tonight as there is still quite a few decent players available in the early 2nd round.
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Interesting draft gossip,
The St. Louis Rams had similar grades on WRs Justin Blackmon and AJ Jenkins.
Seems the 49ers weren't the only team high on Jenkins.
A few notes from Peter King: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/04/27/2012.nfl.draft.first.round/index.html
More on AJ Jenkins,
The St. Louis Rams had similar grades on WRs Justin Blackmon and AJ Jenkins.
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/rams-miss-out-on-jenkins/article_02ddc12d-b649-5ef0-84f4-02f6487fb11d.htmlLeague sources told the Post-Dispatch on Thursday afternoon that the Rams liked Jenkins so much that his grade wasn't much different than the one given Blackmon by the team's personnel department.
Seems the 49ers weren't the only team high on Jenkins.
A few notes from Peter King: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/04/27/2012.nfl.draft.first.round/index.html
More on AJ Jenkins,
I think, after a conversation with one club official on a team that scouted receivers extensively this draft season, I felt better about the 49er pick of virtually unknown A.J. Jenkins from Illinois at No. 30. "We had him rated ahead of Michael Floyd,'' this club official said. "He didn't have a good quarterback to get him the ball, and he's raw. But he's fast. We liked him a lot.''
Ozzie Newsome when we selected Hightower.I think the team that was plumb out of luck in round one was Baltimore. The Ravens, picking 29th, loved Alabama linebacker Dont'a Hightower, but the Patriots jumped them and chose Hightower 25th. One of their fallback players was guard Zeitler, who got picked 27th ... and what made that hurt even more is that Zeitler was drafted by division rival Cincinnati.
I think I'll get to a lot more of this in Monday's MMQB column, but I'd like to throw some empathy Mohamed Sanu's way. The Rutgers wide receiver was on the edge of his seat late in the first round, with the Bengals on the clock at No. 27, when his phone rang. The voice on the other end of the phone identified himself as being from the Bengals, and said Cincinnati was about to pick him. Sanu and those in his draft party exploded in excitement, and agent Mike McCartney even tweeted that Sanu was a Bengal. Then Cincinnati picked Zeitler.
"This is a great kid, I guarantee you, and someone played a cruel joke on him,'' McCartney said. "It is unreal that someone would do that, but it happened.'' Sanu told McCartney after the draft not to worry about him, he'd be fine, and some team will draft him and get a good player. McCartney's right. Sanu must be a good kid, to respond to something that hurtful with an attitude so hopeful.
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I will be up to watch the second round, as long as there is no bloody power cut tonight!
I read that story about Sanu, that is quite cruel, he must have been crushed to see the actual pick on TV, hopefully he gets drafted tonight
I read that story about Sanu, that is quite cruel, he must have been crushed to see the actual pick on TV, hopefully he gets drafted tonight
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no doubt he will, realy looking forward to tonight, the is the deepest draft in a few years, lots of defensive talent, sounds crazy but would'nt mind niners taking jeffery, randle or hill if they fall because moss will be gone after a year and only crabtree, manningham (only 2 year deal), williams and jenkins will still be around and none them are over 6 ft 1
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Not too unhappy with Quinton Coples.
I spent more time watching Chandler Jones and Melvin Ingram but tbh Coples does give us a lot of versitility and upside. He's completely different from Gholston also. Much more physical.
For tonight i'd like to get a RT and a running back . Bobbie Massie or Isiah Pead perhaps. If Jeffrey or Hill drops a bit its not unlikely we'll take them too.
I spent more time watching Chandler Jones and Melvin Ingram but tbh Coples does give us a lot of versitility and upside. He's completely different from Gholston also. Much more physical.
For tonight i'd like to get a RT and a running back . Bobbie Massie or Isiah Pead perhaps. If Jeffrey or Hill drops a bit its not unlikely we'll take them too.
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How do you access the chat box?
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its at the bottom of the home page
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my ideal picks for titans tonight would be for them to get a center and the bpa for defensive line or secondary. The vikings need to go bpa at wr or cb or even guard. I hope the niners get a running back and a shock pick, they are good enough at every position to take a luxury pick
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At the bottom of the home page or https://www.606v2.com/chatbox/index.forum?The Mangler US_UK wrote:How do you access the chat box?
See the Browns continuing with drafting Offense unless there's really good value somewhere, but should be a WR and a RT.
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It's been suggested that there might be a run of WRs at the top of the 2nd round.
Stephen Hill
Mo Sanu, #2WR, move the chains type
rumours of Brian Quick possibly going to the Rams or Jaguars, small school guy
2012 NFL Draft pick analysis in pictures:http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52641
Stephen Hill
Mo Sanu, #2WR, move the chains type
rumours of Brian Quick possibly going to the Rams or Jaguars, small school guy
2012 NFL Draft pick analysis in pictures:http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52641
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jeffery and randle should go high but wouldn't be shocked to see givens or hilton going in the 2nd either if not 3rd
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Randle is intriguing, size at 6'3, 210lbs and ran a 4.43 40 at his pro day, but would be risky that high based off of limited tape, similar type of projection as Stephen Hill. I wouldn't touch Jeffery that high. I like TY Hilton but teams might not like the idea of taking a slot guy at the top of the 2nd round.niner wrote:jeffery and randle should go high but wouldn't be shocked to see givens or hilton going in the 2nd either if not 3rd
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ill come on chat box i think if there is at least 3 or 4 people
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i will be there niner
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Undoubted winners of day 2 for me were the Giants and Rams. Giants picked up Reuben Randle with the last pick of the second round, then got Jayron Hosely with the same spot in the third. Randle in particular was great value considering many had him mocked late in round 1, Hosely gives them another decent playmaking corner with a lot of potential. I love the Rams picks too, a big receiving target in Quick, 2 cornerbacks with a lot of potential and a speedy RB.
Talking of the Rams, do they know have the most headcase secondary in the league? Cortland Finnegan, Janoris Jenkins and Trumaine Johnson
Talking of the Rams, do they know have the most headcase secondary in the league? Cortland Finnegan, Janoris Jenkins and Trumaine Johnson
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After being very impressed by the Pats first round I was a bit baffled by the second and third round selections. Both players were not the best players available at that position at that point and if I'm honest we still have huge holes in the secondary
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I predicted two of the first 3 Buc picks. Hells yeah.
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The niners added speed and versatility and i love the lamichael james pick, really hope he can be our sproles type gadget player
im happy with the vikings draft, they have 3 guys who can make an impact straight away, smith will start, kalil can be elite and robinson fits the zone scheme well
The titans draft is a mixed bag, love the wright pick, not too excited about zach brown but love getting mike martin in the 3rd.
im happy with the vikings draft, they have 3 guys who can make an impact straight away, smith will start, kalil can be elite and robinson fits the zone scheme well
The titans draft is a mixed bag, love the wright pick, not too excited about zach brown but love getting mike martin in the 3rd.
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niner wrote:The niners added speed and versatility and i love the lamichael james pick, really hope he can be our sproles type gadget player
im happy with the vikings draft, they have 3 guys who can make an impact straight away, smith will start, kalil can be elite and robinson fits the zone scheme well
The titans draft is a mixed bag, love the wright pick, not too excited about zach brown but love getting mike martin in the 3rd.
I agree with the Titans stuffs, quite dissapointed we didn't take Konz in the 2nd, think he will have made more an impact than Brown who I don't think is a 3 down LB for us. On the positive we are now very young at LB with Brown, McCarthy and Ayers, who could grow together to make one of the better LB corps in the league. Don't know much about Mike Martin but its a position of need so if he becomes a starter then probably a good pick.
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Bucs have had a great draft.
Thomond- Posts : 10663
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I think it's hard to say they weren't BPA as that can be different for pretty much everyone, they may have really impressed during the predraft interviews and visits. Not heard of the safety but pretty sure Bequette was a 3rd round prospect.ollyrules wrote:After being very impressed by the Pats first round I was a bit baffled by the second and third round selections. Both players were not the best players available at that position at that point and if I'm honest we still have huge holes in the secondary
Having to trust the Front Office on the pick of the DT out of Cincinnati (forgotten his name) being better than everyone seems to have had the guy ranked, Schwartz will be good for the RT spot on the o-line so that's sorted still the big need of a receiver but they've got 7 picks to find one in the final 4 rounds.
Derbyblue- Posts : 4528
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Derbyblue wrote:I think it's hard to say they weren't BPA as that can be different for pretty much everyone, they may have really impressed during the predraft interviews and visits. Not heard of the safety but pretty sure Bequette was a 3rd round prospect.ollyrules wrote:After being very impressed by the Pats first round I was a bit baffled by the second and third round selections. Both players were not the best players available at that position at that point and if I'm honest we still have huge holes in the secondary
Having to trust the Front Office on the pick of the DT out of Cincinnati (forgotten his name) being better than everyone seems to have had the guy ranked, Schwartz will be good for the RT spot on the o-line so that's sorted still the big need of a receiver but they've got 7 picks to find one in the final 4 rounds.
Well I do trust Belichek and his eye for a player but over recent years we have picked up some questionable prospects and the safety seems like another one. Just think that after a very good first round we have failed to address needs in the second. If we wanted a DE in the third round why did we pass on Vinny Curry in the Second round?
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im a michigan fan so have seen mike martin quite a bit, at worst he can bring really good depth but i think he can make an impact because he can play a number of positions. I suppose brown replacing witherspoon makes the titans defense very young, i think bar the 2 safeties, wimbley is the oldest at 28
Colan (niner)- Posts : 1916
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Fairly happy with Worthy and Perry for the Packers. don't know too much about their other pick though.
Barney92- Posts : 629
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lots of impact players left, wouldn't mind criner, mcnutt, dennard, crick, norman, lane, jackson, wylie
Colan (niner)- Posts : 1916
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[quote="Derbyblue"]
Derek Wolfe is the guy, if its any consolation he was Mel Kiper's man crush for the past month or so! He was constantly bringing him up when talking about possible later round studs. Not sure if Kiper's opinion means much though
ollyrules wrote:
Having to trust the Front Office on the pick of the DT out of Cincinnati (forgotten his name) being better than everyone seems to have had the guy ranked, Schwartz will be good for the RT spot on the o-line so that's sorted still the big need of a receiver but they've got 7 picks to find one in the final 4 rounds.
Derek Wolfe is the guy, if its any consolation he was Mel Kiper's man crush for the past month or so! He was constantly bringing him up when talking about possible later round studs. Not sure if Kiper's opinion means much though
BamBam- Posts : 17226
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Well I completely messed up that quote, was quoting Derby though!
BamBam- Posts : 17226
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No he means the other DT out of Cincinnati John Hughes that browns picked, Wolfe went to the Broncos in round 2
Derbyblue wrote:ollyrules wrote:
Having to trust the Front Office on the pick of the DT out of Cincinnati (forgotten his name) being better than everyone seems to have had the guy ranked, Schwartz will be good for the RT spot on the o-line so that's sorted still the big need of a receiver but they've got 7 picks to find one in the final 4 rounds.
Derek Wolfe is the guy, if its any consolation he was Mel Kiper's man crush for the past month or so! He was constantly bringing him up when talking about possible later round studs. Not sure if Kiper's opinion means much though
No he means the other DT out of Cincinnati John Hughes that browns picked, Wolfe went to the Broncos in round 2
TheBrownTown- Posts : 344
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anyone watching the other rounds, any point in chat box
Colan (niner)- Posts : 1916
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Jets wise i'm happy with Stephen Hill because if you want to have a run based offence you'll need to stretch the field or at least threaten for it. He has big play ability too.
Demorio Davis will help add youth to our lb corps.
i'd like to see a developmental safety and a small quick rb selected today.
Demorio Davis will help add youth to our lb corps.
i'd like to see a developmental safety and a small quick rb selected today.
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niners just got 2013 3rd rounder and a 6th for their 4th and we also traded back for another 6th next year
overall for the niners third round pick, through the 3 trades that have taken place, they have gotten a 3rd, a 4th and 3 6 rounders, great business
overall for the niners third round pick, through the 3 trades that have taken place, they have gotten a 3rd, a 4th and 3 6 rounders, great business
Colan (niner)- Posts : 1916
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4th round highlights:-
The Dolphins take Lamar Miller in the 4th round. That looks a very good pick considering many had him rated much higher.
The Redskins have added Kirk Cousins as back up to RG3.
The Seahawks has snapped up RB Robert Turbin.
Arizona had drafted Bobby Massie with the 112 pick. He's the highest rated player to go in the 4th round so far and adds to some solid other picks by the Cardinals.
Bengals get Orson Charles, the Saints pick Nick Toon, the Eagles add Brandon Boykin, the Texans draft Jared Crick.
The Dolphins take Lamar Miller in the 4th round. That looks a very good pick considering many had him rated much higher.
The Redskins have added Kirk Cousins as back up to RG3.
The Seahawks has snapped up RB Robert Turbin.
Arizona had drafted Bobby Massie with the 112 pick. He's the highest rated player to go in the 4th round so far and adds to some solid other picks by the Cardinals.
Bengals get Orson Charles, the Saints pick Nick Toon, the Eagles add Brandon Boykin, the Texans draft Jared Crick.
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mikeygnfl- Posts : 3032
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Love the pick by the Cardinals just now getting Bobby Massie, they need a tackle and got a guy in the 4th who can start year-one
TheBrownTown- Posts : 344
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Floyd, Fleming and Massie is a pretty solid draft so far for the Cardinals.
mikeygnfl- Posts : 3032
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The Bengals (Kirkpatrick, Zeitler,Still, Sanu & Orson Charles) , Eagles (Cox, Kendricks, Curry & Foles) Colts (Luck, Fleener, Dwayne Allen & Hilton) have had pretty good drafts so far. The Jets done well getting Coples and Hill with their first two picks while the likes of the Steelers, Packers and Patriots have added some pretty solid players.
The Dolphins have added some interesting players in Tannehill, Martin, Vernon, Egnew and Miller.
The 49ers have just pick Joe Looney.
The Dolphins have added some interesting players in Tannehill, Martin, Vernon, Egnew and Miller.
The 49ers have just pick Joe Looney.
mikeygnfl- Posts : 3032
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Considering the Colts are supposed to be moving to a 3-4 defence, I am a bit surprised they haven't taken any defensive players, mainly a nose tackle or defensive end
BamBam- Posts : 17226
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so they traded up for a guard in the 5th last year and traded up for one in the 4th this year, will be good competition
Colan (niner)- Posts : 1916
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cliff harris or asa jackson would be great in the 5th or 6th
Colan (niner)- Posts : 1916
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Yeah TheBrownTown is right I meant John Hughes who Cleveland drafted in the 3rd even though it isn't a need compared to WR (though that has been "sorted" since). I haven't heard of either Travis Benjamin or James Michael-Johnson but WR was a need and depth at LB due to D'Qwell Jackson's injury issues (maybe an OLB would have been better though), and they added depth at Guard in the 5th.TheBrownTown wrote:No he means the other DT out of Cincinnati John Hughes that browns picked, Wolfe went to the Broncos in round 2bambamwillis wrote:Derek Wolfe is the guy, if its any consolation he was Mel Kiper's man crush for the past month or so! He was constantly bringing him up when talking about possible later round studs. Not sure if Kiper's opinion means much thoughDerbyblue wrote:Having to trust the Front Office on the pick of the DT out of Cincinnati (forgotten his name) being better than everyone seems to have had the guy ranked, Schwartz will be good for the RT spot on the o-line so that's sorted still the big need of a receiver but they've got 7 picks to find one in the final 4 rounds.
Another benefit of him for the Jets is that because he was at Georgia Tech who run the triple option offense he's very good blocking the run.Captain Charisma wrote:Jets wise i'm happy with Stephen Hill because if you want to have a run based offence you'll need to stretch the field or at least threaten for it. He has big play ability too.
Hope everyone is going to look out for how Jack Crawford out of Penn State (now a Raider) does in the league as he's from the UK.
Patriots did well trading Green Bay their 5th rounder back to them for a 6th and two 7ths.
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The Bengals are having the best draft I can remember, every pick they've made have been good and great value
TheBrownTown- Posts : 344
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there must be a reason the players fell though
Colan (niner)- Posts : 1916
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Terrance Ganaway is a nice later round pick for the New York Jets. And they have just added Robert Griffin...?
The Patriots have taken the gamble on Alfonzo Dennard in the 7th round.
The Patriots have taken the gamble on Alfonzo Dennard in the 7th round.
mikeygnfl- Posts : 3032
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Bit unsure on the Browns draft currently, 2 DT's which wasn't really a need and 2 MLB's after D'Qwell Jackson's best year at the position, but just the 1 WR which was a need.
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