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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 23 May 2012 - 10:27

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2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 24 May 2012 - 9:34

Budgets are almost up to date and SJE will post up to date ones after the final has been played.

Everyone should however be keeping their own budget as well.
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 24 May 2012 - 9:59

Budgets are up to date since the last marker on domestics. League finishing bonuses will be added at the weekend when results for the final are known thumbsup

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 24 May 2012 - 10:01

Looks like Beale will play 10 for Aus:

http://www.rugby365.com/news/2887685.htm

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 24 May 2012 - 10:01

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 24 May 2012 - 10:44

Good work with the budgets SJE - must take a lot of time and effort keeping them all up to date!

Has the England team for the BaaBaas been named yet? Saw that Dowson was named as captain.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 24 May 2012 - 10:54

dammit_chris wrote:Good work with the budgets SJE - must take a lot of time and effort keeping them all up to date!

Seconded. Must be a ball ache.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 24 May 2012 - 14:01

Sounds like George Ford is starting in the final with Flood not recovering in time - playing against Evans will be a huge test, and having Fa’sivalu charging him down from every scrum/lineout etc is going to be good to watch and see how he deals with it.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 24 May 2012 - 14:04

Forwards battle will be very interesting indeed. Evans hasn't quite been at his best in the last few weeks so will be very very interesting.

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Post by stnick88 Thu 24 May 2012 - 14:06

ultimate test for quins. if they can match them upfront they have a great chance.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 24 May 2012 - 14:09

Flood will be loss for Tigers.

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Post by stnick88 Thu 24 May 2012 - 14:09

pete, not quite the tighthead signing we were hoping for!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 24 May 2012 - 14:11

Oh dear Nick. Not sure about that.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 24 May 2012 - 14:11

Its all going to be about the team that sets the best platform - Tigers will miss what Croft offers them in the lineout, think a lot could depend on whether Salvi plays, he's been very good for them at the b/d - though I guess NEwby isnt a bad replacement!

Think Tigers have more game winners in the backline - just a case of if they can use them - hoping for a repeat of the last game between the clubs!

This is when I know that Wasps arent a threat at that end of the table anmore as I actually want Tigers to win!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 24 May 2012 - 14:15

Did you see Newby against Sarries? He was a fantastic at breakdown, prevented Sarries building any momentum.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 24 May 2012 - 14:17

Amazing the depth that Tigers have isnt it!

Salvi, Newby, Waldrom, Crane, Croft as backrow selections.

Want to know who all the clubs will sign as their marque signings this year! Reckon Tigers, Saints, Bath and Sarries will all be able to afford a top player.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 24 May 2012 - 14:19

I suspect many will put current players as marquee, read Quins would do this with Evans.

Isn't Salvi off in the summer?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 24 May 2012 - 14:20

Most can afford a top player. Sale can easily afford it as they have been at the salary cap roof for the last 3 seasons at least.

Our poor squad of last few years has been more expensive than our brilliant squad of 2005 and 2006.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 24 May 2012 - 14:22

stnick88 wrote:pete, not quite the tighthead signing we were hoping for!

I don't know much about him to be honest, but I was hoping for someone a bit more high profile.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 24 May 2012 - 14:25

Who've you signed?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 24 May 2012 - 14:26

Cai Griffiths

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Post by stnick88 Thu 24 May 2012 - 14:31

Another year of getting battered in the scrum I expect!

I imagine our marquee player will be a number 8 if hala'ufia leaves.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 24 May 2012 - 14:32

Nice...lol

Up there with Falcons signings

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Post by stnick88 Thu 24 May 2012 - 14:47

To be fair its the only signing so far that I'm disappointed with.

Geraghty, O'Leary, Humphreys, Skivington, Aulika and Smith are all decent ones.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 24 May 2012 - 16:07

Irish def made some good signings - also happy with Wasps signings as Haskell and Palmer will make a huge difference to our pack!

What would people want to see as the England team for Saturday? Squads...

Mouritz Botha (Saracens)
Alex Corbisiero (London Irish)
Paul Doran Jones (Northampton Saints)
Phil Dowson (Northampton Saints)
Carl Fearns (Bath Rugby)
Jamie Gibson (London Irish)
Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints)
Tom Johnson (Exeter Chiefs)
Joe Launchbury (London Wasps)
Lee Mears (Bath Rugby)
Ben Morgan (Scarlets)
Matt Mullan (Worcester Warriors)
Tom Palmer (Stade Francais)
Matt Stevens (Saracens)

Chris Ashton (Northampton Saints)
Brad Barritt (Saracens)
Freddie Burns (Gloucester Rugby)
Lee Dickson (Northampton Saints)
Owen Farrell (Saracens)
Ben Foden (Northampton Saints)
Alex Goode (Saracens)
Charlie Hodgson (Saracens)
Jonathan Joseph (London Irish)
David Strettle (Saracens)
Haydn Thomas (Exeter Chiefs)
Christian Wade (London Wasps)
Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens)

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Post by stnick88 Thu 24 May 2012 - 16:11

1 Corbisiero
2 Hartley
3 Doran-Jones
4 Botha
5 Palmer
6 Dowson
7 Fearns
8 Morgan
9 Dickson
10 Farrell
11 Ashton
12 Barritt
13 Joseph
14 Wade
15 Foden

is what I would like to see. Would also like to see Launchbury, Burns and Gibson involved off the bench.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 24 May 2012 - 16:11

I'd like to see - bit of continuity and then some fresh faces!

1. Corbs
2. Hartley
3. PDJ
4. Botha
5. Palmer
6. Launchbury
7. Fearns
8. Dowson
9. Dickson
10. Farrell
11. Ashton
12. Barritt
13. Joseph
14. Wade
15. Foden

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 24 May 2012 - 16:11

pretty much snap then Nick!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 24 May 2012 - 16:12

Think Corbs is still injured isn't he? I would be surprised to see him start against the Baa Baas.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 24 May 2012 - 16:13

1. Corbisiero
2. Hartley
3. Stephens
4. Botha
5. Palmer
6. Fearns
7. Dowson
8. Morgan
9. Dickson
10. Burns
11. Strettle
12. Farrell
13. Joseph
14. Ashton
15. Foden

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Post by stnick88 Thu 24 May 2012 - 16:25

No fan of Farrell at 12 at all. Barritt the man for the job.

Wade will be good in attack I hope but will be tested in defence, Sackey is a strong runner. If Tagicakibau comes on he would just swot Wade aside!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 24 May 2012 - 16:27

I'm not really a fan of either but would like to see how farrell went there. We know what barrit gives there.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 24 May 2012 - 16:28

Wade's defence is surprisingly good for a midget - very good technique, goes low (no surprise there) and then pumps the legs, did very well against Tuilagi before. Only issue I have with him is what happens when a very good kicker targets him with big kicks.

Have seen a few attempt in the AP and then Wade's run 50-60metres - quickest feet I think I've seen - he's got some great videos on youtube.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 24 May 2012 - 16:30

Am genuinely surprised by some of the stick Farrell seems to have gotten on these boards over the past couple of months (both on these games and the main rugby board).

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Post by Guest Thu 24 May 2012 - 16:33

i like farrell and would much rather he played than barritt

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 24 May 2012 - 16:35

My issue pete has been noticing how much he seems to kick when his sides are on the front foot. They are often decent kicks but they aren't helping his side.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 24 May 2012 - 16:37

But that is the Sarries gameplan Steve. Drive the opposition deeper and deeper with the boot before attempting to do anything ball in hand.
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 24 May 2012 - 16:39

I dont understand the criticism he gets either Pete - think he's a great player, 20 years old and only going to get better. Dont know another player in the AP with his winning mentality!

I think he has the problem of playing at Sarries - being moved between 10, 12 and 13 shirts all the time.

He can definitely attack and has a great passing game - just look at the France game! He makes errors sometimes, but who wouldnt as a 20 year. Certainly would never mark you down for starting him mate.

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Post by stnick88 Thu 24 May 2012 - 18:39

thats why im saying play him 10, not 12.
at 12 he isnt a crash ball option, isnt a runner, isnt a flair player, just a good passer, kicker and controller, which for me makes him a 10 not a 12.
happy to have him 10.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 24 May 2012 - 19:23

we need a centre that can bring the best out of Tuilagi - I havent seen enough of JJ play, what are his hands like?

reckon we could end up with Ford, Tuilagi and JJ - potentially very good for the next 10 years! Put Youngs there too, alongside Foden and Ashton and suddenly we have something a bit special for 2015.

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Post by Guest Thu 24 May 2012 - 19:29

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_7774786,00.html


Do like taute and engelbrecht. Ch stander been great all season

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Post by stnick88 Thu 24 May 2012 - 19:29

pretty normal, both got 4 fingers and a thumb.

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Post by Guest Thu 24 May 2012 - 19:31

He is not from Gloucester then. 6th finger is a giveaway

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 24 May 2012 - 20:31

Out of interest how do people rate Kankowski now - just saw that he was back in the SA squad. I've only seen him play once this year!

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Post by stnick88 Thu 24 May 2012 - 20:36

i noticed that chris. seems to be on the bench a lot for the sharks. daniel has been regular number 8 and playing well by all accounts.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 24 May 2012 - 20:52

i was thinking of selling him - but covers 6&8 and was hoping he'd be available during the 6nations and AIs as think that's an area I could be short on.

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Post by Guest Thu 24 May 2012 - 22:35

Kankowski is dross for me chris.

That SA squad announced is 50 players so not really the squad also they have been having regional squad days where pretty much every shark went to one and 31 stormers went to the western province one.

He is ok in great conditions and is an athlete but in a physical rainy game he goes to pieces. He is lightning quick

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 24 May 2012 - 23:03

ah so a new no8 might be in order! when he first started he seemed really good and then Spies kin dof overtook him!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 24 May 2012 - 23:05

Final match thread is updated.

Predos are open.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 25 May 2012 - 9:59

As I am saying how disappointed I'd been by Jano Vermaak he gets himself into the SA squad an hopefully onto the bench. Nit surprised by that.

Reckon they will line up as

Beast
BDP
JDP
Etzebeth
Bekker
Brussow
Deysel
Spies
Houghard
Steyn
Habana
JDV
JDJ
Aplon
Lambie

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 25 May 2012 - 10:00

Absolutely lovely try from the chiefs. Cruden and SBW link up lovely for the try which will be music to pooly's ears.

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