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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 23 May 2012, 10:27 am

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Waiting List
1. pullthestrings
2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:27 pm

Laugh

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:28 pm

Not convinced that was a ruck

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Post by Driver Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:29 pm

Why wouldn't you scrum that! 8 on 6!!!!!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:30 pm

It wasn't though Driver. Toulouse still have a full pack

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Post by Driver Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:30 pm

So you'd defend 5 on 7 in the backs?
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:31 pm

Don't have a 9 and lose the full back. Only thing to do.

They might drop the 8 if they fancy there scrum to be strong

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:32 pm

Teulet having a bad day of the boot isn't he!

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Post by Driver Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:34 pm

I'd back Toulouse front 5 to hold off a drive over though , and all Castre had to was shift it if toulouse kept the 8.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:39 pm

No Brussow for Boks! Got to be happy with that as English fan. Kankowski in?!?!

13 Bulls in...that is a dodgy squad. We could seriously turn them over

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:42 pm

I think we could well beat them if Meyer goes with his Bulls gameplan and mainly Bulls players, as we are strong defensively and I can't see them opening us up like that.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:44 pm

Looks like hes going for power Pete. Likely big Backrow to run at us, I think we can cope with that all day tbh. No fetcher is massive for us as we've struggled against turnover ball

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:47 pm

I said the other day that lots of Boks fans were calling for that saying they don't need a fetcher with Bismarck in the side.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:49 pm

BDP is decent at the breakdown but Brussow at his best can destroy the best attacking sides in the world with his ruck work.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:51 pm

To be fair, he hasn't been at his best this season though, so I can see the thinking, particularly if they start Coenie at loosehead as well, as he is also very good at securing turnovers at the breakdown.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:51 pm

Coenie's turnover stats are mightily impressive.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:54 pm

Hard for front row players to attack rucks especially off set piece ball.

Meyer has selected power options in Backrow it seems although Daniel, Coetzee and Kankowski just don't really strike fear.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:02 pm

Ducalcon having a good go at Steenkamp and Poux before him at the scrum!

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Post by Driver Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:05 pm

Castres 5 is impressing me. Standing up and being counted here Castres

Max Evans best player on pitch though
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:09 pm

Joe Tekori Driver. Excellent ball carrier. Would be a good buy for someone in this game.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:11 pm

Tekori been excellent.

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Post by Driver Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:11 pm

He's been fantastic, making plenty of dents in the Toulouse line.

I can see this getting away from Castres now if Mac keeps landing goals like that.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:16 pm

I do not understand why Maestri plays ahead of Millo-Chuski

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Post by Driver Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:17 pm

Tikori and Evans don't deserve to be on the losing side tonight.

The assistant commentator talks absolute shiote. Keeps talking about peoples arm size?!?!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:17 pm

Peter Richards is a good commentator I think.

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Post by Driver Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:19 pm

That's Peter Richards????? as in the former London Irish back?

He makes valid points but the rest is just garbage. Favorite is the Irish guy off sky or the scottish one on BBC.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:22 pm

Miles Harrison the best rugby commentator by a country mile. He and greenwood and great combo.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:23 pm

From the foreign transfer thread...

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Coetzee 20m

stnick88 wrote:coetzee 21 mil

Ozzy3213 wrote:stnick88 - Marcell Coetzee - £21 million ACCEPTED


From the Boks squad announcement thread…

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Coetzee/Daniel are extremely underpowered, surprised theyre anywhere near a Bok jersey

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
Bullsbok wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Coetzee/Daniel are extremely underpowered, surprised theyre anywhere near a Bok jersey

You are beginning to sound like a troll

?????? Because my opinion differs to yours?

Add Kankowski into that also. Seem to recall Coetzee nearly getting put in the stands from a Mumm(yes Dean Mumm) hand off a few months back.

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fa0019 wrote:Daniel would be a good choice IMO for starting openside. He has played well this season.

However I think ENG will be looking at a Alberts, Daniel & Spies trio and think.... we can dominate these guys.

Brussow may have had a poor season but he is still bar Daniel the only real openside in contention.
I think Ashley Johnson should be a little disappointed... he is the best cheetahs backrower this year and better than some selected.

I'd say a Haskell, Robshaw & Morgan backrow may have the beating of these guys anyhow. I'd be a little concerned.

Exactly my thoughts. These players are not Burger & Smith.

Its been years since I thought our loosies would get edge on a SA trio but nothing in that squad scares me.

6. Bruss
7. Alberts
8. Spies

Would give us serious issues. Daniel, Kankowski and Coetzee are not particularly great players for me.

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
biltongbek wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:
Bullsbok wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Coetzee/Daniel are extremely underpowered, surprised theyre anywhere near a Bok jersey

You are beginning to sound like a troll

?????? Because my opinion differs to yours?

Add Kankowski into that also. Seem to recall Coetzee nearly getting put in the stands from a Mumm(yes Dean Mumm) hand off a few months back.

So you base your entire opinion on one hand off? Doh

Obviously not, I've seen Coetzee offer little all season. The Stormers 6 (llosi??) is a much brighter prospect imo.


Pooly, you do make me laugh buddy.

Am cracking up at the fact that you are seriously winding Bullsbok up over there Laugh
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:26 pm

You don't understand Frances first choice 4 starting ahead of RMC????

First you don't rate Flip, now Maestri???

For somebody boasting DOC & Thion at lock you have a very warped view of who you like and dislike! Lol

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:29 pm

Haha....he was winding me up.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:30 pm

As a wum Pooly has got nothing on Sin E though when looking at the Irish threads Run

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:30 pm

Thion 54 caps for France.

DOC 85 Caps for Ireland + 4 for the Lions.

Both five knuckle shuffle though Whistle

Maestri doesn't seem to do anything and Flip seems to me quite similar. Haven't seen as much of Flip as I'd like but for me he doesn't look upto much.

Considering how highly you rate Ed Slater I'm reckon your view could be warped.

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Post by stnick88 Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:32 pm

a lot of people saying that sharks back row has been best in the super 15 this season. so no suprise to see alberts, daniel and coetzee all in there.

daniel has made team of the week 2 or 3 times.

kankowski is a bizarre selection. especially over brussouw. you can play spies, alberts, daniel at 8, why do you need kankowski.



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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:35 pm

I like Kanowski as a player, when on song he is a serious attacking threat at 8, but he can't even make the starting line up for the Sharks at the moment and has been well below par all season.

Really odd selection.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:36 pm

Daniel, Coetzee and Alberts all deserve to be in the squad.

They have a great balance as a unit I think but unlikely to be the SA combo.

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Post by stnick88 Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:38 pm

no, spies will definitely start 8. could be coetzee and alberts 6/7 though.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:38 pm

Slater has came on leaps last year Steve, he'll develop more again next season.

Yea Thion & DOC have slipped a bit over last year. I do like them but not that great anymore. Maestri had a great 6N, typical bruiser does the nasty stuff like Thion used to.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:45 pm

stnick88 wrote:a lot of people saying that sharks back row has been best in the super 15 this season. so no suprise to see alberts, daniel and coetzee all in there.

daniel has made team of the week 2 or 3 times.

kankowski is a bizarre selection. especially over brussouw. you can play spies, alberts, daniel at 8, why do you need kankowski.



Sharks Backrow very good this year. Don't think Coetzee is ready myself but huge talent

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Post by stnick88 Sat 02 Jun 2012, 10:41 pm

beauxis available for minimal cash

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 02 Jun 2012, 10:41 pm

AB squad:

Hookers
Andrew Hore Taranaki (62)
Keven Mealamu Auckland (92)

Props
Wyatt Crockett Canterbury (6)
Ben Franks Tasman (15)
Owen Franks Canterbury (31)
Ben Tameifuna Hawke's Bay *
Tony Woodcock North Harbour (83)

Locks
Brodie Retallick Bay of Plenty *
Luke Romano Canterbury *
Samuel Whitelock Canterbury (25)
Ali Williams Auckland (73)

Loose forwards
Sam Cane Bay of Plenty *
Richie McCaw (C) Canterbury (103)
Kieran Read Canterbury (36)
Adam Thomson Otago (24)
Victor Vito Wellington (13)

Halfbacks
Aaron Smith Manawatu *
Piri Weepu Auckland (56)

First five-eighths
Daniel Carter Canterbury (85)
Aaron Cruden Manawatu (9)
Beauden Barrett Taranaki *

Midfielders
Tamati Ellison Otago (1)
Ma'a Nonu Wellington (66)
Conrad Smith Wellington (55)
Sonny Bill Williams Canterbury (14)

Outside backs
Israel Dagg Hawke's Bay (12)
Hosea Gear Wellington (8)
Zac Guildford Hawke's Bay (8)
Ben Smith Otago (2)
Julian Savea Wellington

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Post by Driver Sat 02 Jun 2012, 11:05 pm

I have 3 All Blacks in my squad for the first time ever.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 02 Jun 2012, 11:22 pm

Interesting squad that. I wonder if there will be a few changes to it for the Rugby Championship.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 02 Jun 2012, 11:26 pm

I imagine the Bok & AB squad may tweak a bit. Be very surprised if Bruss & JdJ don't get a call up at some point, I just don't see much balance in the SA squad.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 02 Jun 2012, 11:42 pm

Surprised jacques potgieter made the squad, thought he broke his arm?

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Post by Guest Sun 03 Jun 2012, 1:47 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:It's the same with JdV though really Pete. Their first option is to take contact and recycle. JdV has a little more but not much. Steyn will be Bok 12 I imagine, fantastic player

Jdv is a all
Time great. Brilliant wing and then centre. Interceptions turned defence to attack.


Steyn a super talent and a for me
A freak attribute wise. Has everything.
We often say so and so has poor defence, distribution, kicking etc.

Steyn does not have problems with these. Kicks like a mule, distributes, huge defence, great under high ball ( as 15 ) also super aggressive and great carrier.

For me in SA rugby he would suit 15. Anywhere else 12. He is not a natural player is the only criticism hence option taking a bit weird but when played with right players a diamond.
People forget how good he was
In last wc. Not same this year but does not matter.


My issue
Is that outside morne they need a more natural player
Who plays heads up. When they had Fourie Steyn had an easy out as Fourie a leader. Jdj great at 12
Or 13 but not a leader yet like Conrad smith, Barnes, bod etc.

Steyn is a combustible character and needs to be picked in one position. FOr
Me 12. Lambie a leader
Also.
SA have great players but hard to
Make
Work as
A backline


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Post by Guest Sun 03 Jun 2012, 2:00 am

I have 4 ab backs ???? Lack of 6 in nz. Cane could have mccaws spot soon. Very good

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Post by Driver Sun 03 Jun 2012, 2:02 am

Ellison is a strange call , didn't realise he was 29 till I looked over day
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sun 03 Jun 2012, 2:06 am

Ellison been on fire, expect him to see fair bit of action.

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Post by Guest Sun 03 Jun 2012, 2:11 am

Ellison went to Japan I think when he would have been picked. Form nz centre

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 03 Jun 2012, 8:35 am

Bit of experiementation v Scotland

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_7793134,00.html

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Post by Guest Sun 03 Jun 2012, 8:53 am

What do you think of tomane steve. Thought Mowan may have startd

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