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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed May 23, 2012 10:27 am

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Fantasy Aviva Premiership Current League Table

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:35 pm

Dickson's position in the side is like Barritt. It is greatly debated as to who the best 9/12 is, but that player fits the current England system the best.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:38 pm

Barritt seems nailed on 12 currently I don't think Dickson is nailed on, far from it after his Ireland display actually.

Lancaster may go Dickson for a few tests but he's not an option going forward. Care and Youngs offer much more an all round game imo. Dickson a very good AP scrum half though.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:54 pm

Easiest way of looking at this argument is Dickson current holder of shirt so 1 care best sh in england for last 6 months so 2nd.

Youngs more talented than Dickson but not been same player for over a year so jury out.

Karl Dickson simpson and wiggles fighting it out for 4th choice.

It's a real position of depth for us. Shame it's not same at 8 or 3

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:55 pm

To be fair there is zero decent 12 s hence barrit having a spot there.

12 our weakest position

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:55 pm

To be fair there is zero decent 12 s hence barrit having a spot there.

12 our weakest position

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:01 pm

Personally don't think Dickson will stay in Int set up long with Care back. Care & Youngs just so far ahead at everything for me. Others may disagree but seen nothing to suggest otherwise.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:11 pm

Dickson brings tempo like nobody else and as impressed me. Never thought he could step up but he did.

Great to have these issues at 9

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:20 pm

Dickson's pass got to be taken into account. As good as any other in world rugby

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:16 am

Care
Youngs
Dickson

for me
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Post by Driver Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:48 am

When does summer cup start?
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Post by Driver Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:07 am

De Villers names boks skipper
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:17 am

Agree Matt, 3 top SH's can only be a good thing.

Anybody watching Aus?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:27 am

just putting it on now. unsure what to expect

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:29 am

Conditions are awful, big chance for Scotland to turn them over

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:29 am

Oh my christ

The weather has ruined this game before it has begun

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:35 am

Massive game for Barnes

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:45 am

Jayzus, that's like a home game for the sweaties now!!!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:04 am

Guys

I am going to open Championship/National league bidding in the next 24 hours. Please ensure you read the rules on it which are on the homepage and will be on the OP of the bidding page. For the purpose of defining the 'season', it begins when bidding opens.

Due to the fact that it is still unclear what the situation is with London Welsh, I will not be accepting bids on any of their players.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:04 am

Driver - RIP 606 wrote:When does summer cup start?

First week in July.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:05 am

C'mon Scotland!!!

Looking better all over the park at the minute, Barclay & Rennie really getting at the breakdown. Be a huge win for the Jocks

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:08 am

They need to make it count on the scoreboard this half though, as Aus will have the wind with them second half and will be able to use Barnes boot to pin Scotland back.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:10 am

Aus forwards making good ground, seem to be figuring out the conditions.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:14 am

Morahan having a bit of a stinker.

See Sharpe is playing on for Force Steve

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:15 am

He retires at the end of the super rugby season.

http://m.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/nathan-sharpe-to-retire-at-end-of-2012-season-20120210-1sa1x.html

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:17 am

They said on here he's playing for another season, must have wrong info

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:23 am

Was ieuan Evans wasn't it. Think he got a bit confused.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:45 am

I don't think there is a better defender in world rugby than Anthony Faainga

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:50 am

Your man love for the Reds players is strong Steve Laugh
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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:51 am

He has zero creativity but his defence is unreal. Can anyone name someone better?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:53 am

In his position or generally?
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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:54 am

His position but I don't think there are many better defenders in any position.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:56 am

Centres who are as good defenders as Faingaa

JDJ
JDV
Barritt
BOD

Off the top of my head.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:01 pm

I think Faainga is top of that pile.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:04 pm

Fa'ainga is a great defender, but at his level just at centre:

Roberts, BOD, Barritt, JdV, Fourie, JdJ

I wouldn't say Fa'ainga is stronger than any of those personally which is not really marking him down.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:04 pm

Disagree, very little between any of them for me.

All about opinions though.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:11 pm

Hogg having a great game, similar Stockrosh who's tackled everything.

Hope Jocks can hold out

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:15 pm

Draw would be a fair result, neither team has really done enough to deserve to win it.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:19 pm

Massive scrum, Murray showing his class.

Get in there!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by dammit_chris Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:19 pm

Good old Scotland Smile

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:20 pm

Not a penalty for me. i reckon Murray Collapsed it but got the decision because they were going forward.

great win though!

That is the difference between Oz and NZ. NZ would never have lost that game

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Post by dammit_chris Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:22 pm

Was that a Scot needing stitches for a clash of heads in the celebration!

Brilliant.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:23 pm

Should have had a pen for first scrum I reckon, love it when Aus lose Very Happy

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Post by prop_lyd Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:24 pm

Great result for the Scots!!
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Post by dammit_chris Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:27 pm

Prop does that Wales the only team who can't beat a top Southern hem team now...Smile

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:28 pm

Can see that changing on soon though Chris, although Aus should have some big hitters back.

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Post by dammit_chris Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:32 pm

Looking forward to next Saturday already

England have a chance of beating the Boks, just hope we have some creativity in the midfield - wonder if it will be Farrell or Flood at 10

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:35 pm

Hopefully Flood with Farrell coming on. I don't think we'll beat the Boks playing structured rugby, we need to attack them.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:39 pm

From another thread

rugbydreamer wrote:I wonder if this stat is true. Ross Rennie tackles made 24, missed 0.

Amazing if it is!!

That is a serious effort if that stat is right. Thought Strokosch put in a Herculean shift as well!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:40 pm

Some just tweeted this...

Murray made 14 tackles missed 0. Gray made 17 missed 0. Strokosch made 17 missed 0. Rennie 24 missed 0. Mental defence.

That is monster defence from your pack.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:42 pm

These stats have to take the weather into account. The majority of these tackles were people running straight at you. very impressive but need to be taken with a pinch of salt.

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