Summer Cup Round 1
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Summer Cup Round 1
Team Sheets due by Saturday
Predictions open Saturday. Results due Tuesday
Northampton Saints v Gloucester Rugby
Northampton Saints
Manager – SirJohnnyEnglish
16. Steven Kitshoff 17. Richardt Strauss 18. Brian Mujati 19. James Craig 20. Phil Dowson 21. Martin Roberts 22. Stephen Myler 23. Scott Armstrong
General Game Plan:
• Fast paced carrying game with runners coming off the 9-10 axis using the offload to keep things going
• Back 3 to join the line as much as possible looking for offloads and inside balls.
• Aggressive blitz with Dickson sweeping on defence. Foden & Ashton sitting deep for kick return
• Strengthen the front 5 from the bench in last 20 minutes and take stranglehold of set piece.
Gloucester
Manager – prop_lyd
16. Ward 17. Harden 18. Murphy 19. Cane 20. Qera 21. Robson 22. Mills 23. Balshaw
Glos Tactics
*Look to put pressure on up front.
*Some players chance to impress.
*Quick ball to the pacy backs.
*Yachvilli to control the game and give Burns the quick ball he needs.
*Lambie to strike as and when and EFS to be the playmaker. Defend hard and blitz (in your face).
*Bring on Ward, Harden, Cane, Robson and Mills to alter the pace and continue to add pressure to the breakdown.
Leicester Tigers v Leinster Rugby
Leicester Tigers
Manager – Sgt_Pooly
16. Tom Youngs 17. Dan Cole 18. Boris Stankovich 19. Joe Launchbury 20. Tom Croft 21. Danny Care 22. Berrick Barnes 23. George Lowe
Leinster Rugby
Manager –
16. Heinke Van Der Merwe 17. Sean Cronin 18. Nathin White 19. Devin Toner 20. Shane Jennings 21. Eoin Reddan 22. Ian Madigan 23. Luke Fitzgerald
London Wasps v London Irish
London Wasps
Manager – Stnick88
16. Tau'lafo 17. Brooker 18. Broster 19. Birkett 20. Wannenburg 21. Young 22. Robinson 23. Varndell
London Irish
Manager – Pullthestrings
16. William Servat 17. Max Lahiff 18. Gethin Jenkins 19. Kieren Low 20. David Sisi 21. Jack Moates 22. Quade Cooper 23. Anthony Watson
Tactics
TBC
Waikato Chiefs v Bath Rugby
Chiefs
Manager –
16. Toby Smith 17. Mahonri Schwalger 18. Ben Afeki 19. Craig Clarke 20. Kane Thompson 21. Brendon Leonard 22. Jackson Willison 23. Andrew Horrell
Ulster Rugby v Sale Sharks
Ulster Rugby
Manager –
16. Paddy McAllister 17. Nigel Brady 18. Declan Fitzpatrick 19. Lewis Stevenson 20 Willie Faloon 21. Paul Marshall 22. Iain Humphreys 23 Adam D'Arcy
Sale Sharks
Manager – LondonIrishOllie
Subs – 16.Marc Jones 17.Davit Kubriashvilli 18.Logovoi Mulipola 19.Kearnan Myall 20.Richie Vernon 21.Scott Mathie 22.Aaron Cruden 23.Jonny Leota
Tactics
Burger to put alot of pressure on Jackson who has in the past shown he is not up to it.
Goosen to look to play whats in front of him with Davies looking make half breaks and offload to the support lines of Fourie and Brady.
Hadyn Thomas to help play territory when needed and test Gilroy's positioning. If its not paying dividends we will stop with this tactic.
Our pack has a number of players who can make yards, with Burger, Sheridan, Stevens and Crane all capable of making lots of yards.
Back will not be afraid to try things.
Logovoi Mulipola, Myall and Vernon will all make a big impact from the bench.
Cruden, Mulipola and Kubs to come on after 55 mins. The rest of the subs as and when needed.
Exeter Chiefs v Saracens
Exeter Chiefs
Manager – Luke
16. Luke Cowan-Dickie 17. Neil Clark 18. Hoani Tui 19. Tommy Hayes 20. James Scaysbrook 21. Kevin Barrett 22. Ignacio Mieres 23. Ollie Phillips
Tactics
We will play a structured game built around our massive carrying pack, the strength of our set piece and getting our backline into space.
- Attack the scrum as a weapon - and call when we can. Look to really get the shove on.
- Use Wilkinson's boot to attack our strong lineout with Hanks, Horwill and Johnson. We will relentlessly target the opposition's throws.
- Massive line-breakers right throughout the side that will look to tire down Sarries defence. We will use our big carriers consistently to tire down Sarries.
The likes of Afoa, Trev and Naqelevuki used off the shoulder crashing through the opposition defence.
- Armitage is the man charged with reaching the breakdown first and look to turnover possession. We will always look to attack quickly off turnover ball. With Armitage and BdP, we feel our breakdown play will be crucial today.
- Box kicks from Peel and up and unders from Wilkinson to give the opposition problems in the air.
Lightning back three to really get the chase on.
- Look to play attacking rugby in the backs, getting the likes of Kahui and Nacewa on the ball when we can.
- Our back three are encouraged to do what they do best - counter attacking and running the ball back. If isolated all have good kicking games, but the counter is what we ask them to look for.
- Wilkinson to kick all penalites.
Saracens
Manager – ChequeredJersey
subs 16. John Smit
17. Jared Saunders
18. Mako Vuniploa
19. Hugh Vyvvan
20. Chris York
21. Morgan Parra
22. Derek Hougaard
23. Drew Mitchell
Tactics
In order to ensure adequate rest and to maximise this opportunity to rotate our squad, we shall not be utilising players in the 7s tournament where possible. We are missing some carriers in the forwards so the aim will be to work as a group with mauls and picks then get the ball out to our talented backs as soon as possible. McCaw and Burger will ensure at least one of them makes every breakdown, then the aim will be get our ball back safely rather than swiftly until an opportunity out wide presents itself due to numbers being sucked into the mauls and rucks we are going to force. As soon as this occurs our backrow will speed the ball as much as possible and we will utilise Leonard, Geraghty and C. Smith's excellent distribution to allow C. Smith, S. Smith, Geraghty, Monye and Wyles to execute their respective running games. When breaks are made, C. Smith and the backrow should be backing them up and we wil aim to keep the ball alive or being recycled as swiftly as possible once the backs are moving. Monye and Wyles will be coming off their wings and picking lines off the centres. It doesn't matter if we miss tackles in defence, we have the backrow and back 3 to cover for this and McCaw is excellent at punishing isolated carriers. The combined kicking options of 9, 10 and 12 will also allow us to switch to a chip/kick attack game if the original plan falters, and Hougaard and Parra can let us play a tighter game off the bench, backed up by the mean forwards we have there like Smit and Botha. We will also kick to the corner where possible to use our effective lineout and will apply the same maul then spin tactics off of that.
Set pieces- our scrum and lineout are both strong and we will hope to at least win our own ball. Our front row could be more experienced but there is plenty of power behind them, and when ball is good we will execute backrow moves off the scrum in opponent territory using Joubert's carrying to make yards then McCaw's link-work to spread/recycle the ball wide quickly missing out 9.
Defence- we will use a blitz defence to pressurise Exeter and to prevent them from putting pressure on Geraghty on the back-foot. The 10-12 channel looks vulnerable, but as a club our line is excellent and C. Smith will replace Barritt as its coordinator. Mullan's job is to guard the 10-12 channel on the sweep when possible to prevent any exploitation of it.
Peel is an excellent 9 in form, but if anyone can pressurise him off the start of moves, it's McCaw and Burger. Make Peel's life hell and Wilkinson is not the best player at moving a back-line and we can kill attacks early on and our rush will increase the chance of turnovers for us.
Breakdown- With Burger and McCaw in play we should be able to edge the breakdown. They will slow ball as much as possible and make sure our ball is safe then strike when an opportunity presents and henceforth maximise speed of ball.
Attack- Once the ball is in the backs, run anything that is on and pass the ball around to manipulate gaps. Our midfield and wings are excellent attacking runners in different ways and all the infield backs are good passers. Someone will make a break and Burger, McCaw and C. Smith are experts at backing these up to keep the move alive. Switches will force even more gaps
-The key point is to use quick feet and sleight of hand not power. We will not overpower the opposition but we can dance around them. Wilkinson won't miss tackles but if we draw him in with Geraghty then gaps will appear.
Kicking- With good options at 9, 10 and 12 there should be less pressure on kickers out of hand. Aim for the corners so we can use our lineout. If Exeter tries to blitz us to stop our running game, chip them as Monye is a big lad and Conrad is a good chaser. Wilkinson may beat any one of our players in a kicking duel but with 3 and Wyles and Monye kick defending we will be fine.
Forwards- We may lack a few strong carriers but our forwards will work as a unit. Their job is not to individually make carries in the tight 5 but rather to work as a swarm and force Exeter to commit players. I don't want players going in alone in the tight 5 ever.
Subs- We have some strong subs here- Smit and Botha can add guts and work to our pack, York covers 6 and 8 and is energetic and a good footballer increasing our link options. Parra can add control to the game, and Hougaard is a steady 10 to go with him if throwing the ball around fails. Mitchell should run tired legs ragged if we need him.
The only planned changes are to bring Parra on at 9 and Smit at 2 with 20-15 to go, and Drew Mitchell for a run-out in the last 10 at least. Other changes should only occur if we need to change approach or players are exhausted, injured or badly matched up. When Parra comes on, we will keep the same gameplan, but with increased kicking for the lines.
Harlequins v Worcester Warriors
Harlequins
Manager – Driver
16.Tom Lindsey 17.Mark Lambert 18.Kieron Brookes 19.Tom Denton 20.Jack Clifford 21.Nic Berry 22.Owen Farrell 23.Jared Payne
Tactics
- Evans to attack the gainline and play the game at a high tempo and look to use the likes of North , Fofana , Short and AAC.
- Use the lineout as a wepon with Robson snapping at the throw on our on ball to enable quick ball and putting pressure on the Wuss throw.
- Plenty of top grafters in our pack (Kvesic , Kohn , Gill , Grey and JJ) these will allow Robshaw to do what he does best a pop up in the loose and link play togeather.
- Bring Farrell on with 20 minutes to go to for Short with Daley going to wing and Farrell at 13 to give us a split field kicking option
Worcester Warriors
Manager – InTheFastLane
16 Ed Shervington 17 George Porter 18 Oliver Tomaszcyzk 19 James Percival 20 Andy Saull 21 Shaun Perry 22 Matt Hopper 23 Luke Rooney
Newcastle Falcons v Stormers
Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Fluxy
16. Tom Mercey 17. Rob Vickers 18. Grant Shiells 19. Tim Swinson 20. Hienrich Brussow 21. Paul Hodgson 22. Joel Hodgson 23. Seb Stegmann
Tactics
TBC
Stormers
Manager –
16. Steven Kitshoff 17. Deon Fourie 18. Brok Harris 19. De Kock Steenkamp 20. Rynhardt Elstadt 21. Louis Schreuder 22. Burton Francis 23. Gerhard van den Heever
Predictions open Saturday. Results due Tuesday
Northampton Saints v Gloucester Rugby
Northampton Saints
Manager – SirJohnnyEnglish
01. Soane Tonga'uiha | 09. Lee Dickson |
02. Dylan Hartley | 10. Johnny Sexton |
03. Paul Doran-Jones | |
04. Courtney Lawes | 11. Chris Ashton |
05. Samu Manoa | 12. Sonny Bill Williams |
06. Stephen Ferris | 13. George Pisi |
07. Tom Wood | 14. Jamie Elliot |
08. Kieran Read | 15. Ben Foden |
16. Steven Kitshoff 17. Richardt Strauss 18. Brian Mujati 19. James Craig 20. Phil Dowson 21. Martin Roberts 22. Stephen Myler 23. Scott Armstrong
General Game Plan:
• Fast paced carrying game with runners coming off the 9-10 axis using the offload to keep things going
• Back 3 to join the line as much as possible looking for offloads and inside balls.
• Aggressive blitz with Dickson sweeping on defence. Foden & Ashton sitting deep for kick return
• Strengthen the front 5 from the bench in last 20 minutes and take stranglehold of set piece.
Gloucester
Manager – prop_lyd
01. Nick Wood | 09. Dimitri Yachvili |
02. Darren Dawiduk | 10. Freddie Burns (k) |
03. Adam Jones | |
04. Tom Savage | 11. Charlie Sharlpes |
05. Sam Whitelock | 12. EFS |
06. Peter Buxton | 13. Henry Trinder |
07. Phil Burgess | 14. Johnny May |
08. JVN (c) | 15. Pat Lambie |
16. Ward 17. Harden 18. Murphy 19. Cane 20. Qera 21. Robson 22. Mills 23. Balshaw
Glos Tactics
*Look to put pressure on up front.
*Some players chance to impress.
*Quick ball to the pacy backs.
*Yachvilli to control the game and give Burns the quick ball he needs.
*Lambie to strike as and when and EFS to be the playmaker. Defend hard and blitz (in your face).
*Bring on Ward, Harden, Cane, Robson and Mills to alter the pace and continue to add pressure to the breakdown.
Leicester Tigers v Leinster Rugby
Leicester Tigers
Manager – Sgt_Pooly
01. Marco Ayerza | 09. Ben Youngs |
02. Rob Webber | 10. Toby Flood |
03. Martin Castrogiovani | |
04. Richie Gray | 11. Miles Benjamin |
05. Geoff Parling | 12. James O'Connor |
06. Maurie Fa'asalavu | 13. Manu Tuilagi |
07. Sam Warburton(c) | 14. Christian Wade |
08. Thomas Waldroum | 15. Rob Kearney |
16. Tom Youngs 17. Dan Cole 18. Boris Stankovich 19. Joe Launchbury 20. Tom Croft 21. Danny Care 22. Berrick Barnes 23. George Lowe
Leinster Rugby
Manager –
01. Cian Healy | 09. Issac Boss |
02. Richardt Strauss | 10. Johnny Sexton |
03. Mike Ross | |
04. Leo Cullen | 11. David Kearney |
05. Brad Thorn | 12. Fergus McFadden |
06. Kevin McLaughlin | 13. Brian O'Driscoll |
07. Sean O'Brien | 14. Isa Nacewa |
08. Jamie Heaslip | 15. Rob Kearney |
16. Heinke Van Der Merwe 17. Sean Cronin 18. Nathin White 19. Devin Toner 20. Shane Jennings 21. Eoin Reddan 22. Ian Madigan 23. Luke Fitzgerald
London Wasps v London Irish
London Wasps
Manager – Stnick88
01. Tim Payne | 09. Karl Dickson |
02. George Chuter | 10. Morne Steyn |
03. Nicolas Mas | |
04. Matt Garvey | 11. Jo Ansbro |
05. Marco Wentzel | 12. Jordan Turner-Hall |
06. Thierry Dusatoir | 13. Jonathan Joseph |
07. Julien Salvi | 14. Leigh Halfpenny |
08. Sergio Parisse | 15. Mike Brown |
16. Tau'lafo 17. Brooker 18. Broster 19. Birkett 20. Wannenburg 21. Young 22. Robinson 23. Varndell
London Irish
Manager – Pullthestrings
01. Clarke Dermody (c) | 09. Darren Allinson |
02. James Buckland | 10. Brock James (k) |
03. Euan Murray | |
04. Bryn Evans | 11. Marlande Yarde |
05. Simon Shaw | 12. Daniel Bowden |
06. Jerome Kaino | 13. Aurelien Rougerie |
07. David Pocock | 14. Sailosi Tagicakibau |
08. Tom Guest | 15. Delon Armitage |
16. William Servat 17. Max Lahiff 18. Gethin Jenkins 19. Kieren Low 20. David Sisi 21. Jack Moates 22. Quade Cooper 23. Anthony Watson
Tactics
TBC
Waikato Chiefs v Bath Rugby
Chiefs
Manager –
01. Sona Taumalolo | 09. Tawera Kerr-Barlow |
02. Hika Elliot | 10. Aaron Cruden |
03. Ben Tameifuna | |
04. Brodie Retalick | 11. Asaeli Tikoirotuma |
05. Michael Fitzgerald | 12. Sonny Bill Williams |
06. Tanerau Latimer | 13. Richard Kahui |
07. Sam Cane | 14. Lelia Masaga |
08. Liam Messam | 15. Tim Nanai Williams |
16. Toby Smith 17. Mahonri Schwalger 18. Ben Afeki 19. Craig Clarke 20. Kane Thompson 21. Brendon Leonard 22. Jackson Willison 23. Andrew Horrell
Ulster Rugby v Sale Sharks
Ulster Rugby
Manager –
01. Tom Court | 09. Ruan Pienaar |
02. Rory Best | 10. Paddy Jackson |
03. John Afoa | |
04. Johann Muller | 11. Craig Gilroy |
05. Dan Tuohy | 12. Paddy Wallace |
06. Stephen Ferris | 13. Darren Cave |
07. Chris Henry | 14. Andrew Trimble |
08. Pedrie Wannenburg | 15. Jared Payne |
16. Paddy McAllister 17. Nigel Brady 18. Declan Fitzpatrick 19. Lewis Stevenson 20 Willie Faloon 21. Paul Marshall 22. Iain Humphreys 23 Adam D'Arcy
Sale Sharks
Manager – LondonIrishOllie
01.Andrew Sheridan | 09.Hadyn Thomas |
02.Gary Botha | 10.Johan Goosen |
03.Matt Stevens | |
04.Dean Schofield | 11.Mark Cueto |
05.James Gaskell | 12.Jonathon Davies |
06.Schalk Burger | 13.Jaque Fourie |
07.Dave Seymour | 14.Tom Brady |
08.Jordan Crane | 15.Rob Miller |
Subs – 16.Marc Jones 17.Davit Kubriashvilli 18.Logovoi Mulipola 19.Kearnan Myall 20.Richie Vernon 21.Scott Mathie 22.Aaron Cruden 23.Jonny Leota
Tactics
Burger to put alot of pressure on Jackson who has in the past shown he is not up to it.
Goosen to look to play whats in front of him with Davies looking make half breaks and offload to the support lines of Fourie and Brady.
Hadyn Thomas to help play territory when needed and test Gilroy's positioning. If its not paying dividends we will stop with this tactic.
Our pack has a number of players who can make yards, with Burger, Sheridan, Stevens and Crane all capable of making lots of yards.
Back will not be afraid to try things.
Logovoi Mulipola, Myall and Vernon will all make a big impact from the bench.
Cruden, Mulipola and Kubs to come on after 55 mins. The rest of the subs as and when needed.
Exeter Chiefs v Saracens
Exeter Chiefs
Manager – Luke
01. Perry Freshwater | 09. Dwayne Peel |
02. Bismarck du Plessis | 10. Jonny Wilkinson (k) |
03. John Afoa | |
04. James Hanks | 11. Gonzalo Camacho |
05. James Horwill (c) | 12. Sireli Naqelevuki |
06. Tom Johnson | 13. Richard Kahui |
07. Steffon Armitage | 14. Paul Sackey |
08. Ofisa Treviranus | 15. Isa Nacewa |
Tactics
We will play a structured game built around our massive carrying pack, the strength of our set piece and getting our backline into space.
- Attack the scrum as a weapon - and call when we can. Look to really get the shove on.
- Use Wilkinson's boot to attack our strong lineout with Hanks, Horwill and Johnson. We will relentlessly target the opposition's throws.
- Massive line-breakers right throughout the side that will look to tire down Sarries defence. We will use our big carriers consistently to tire down Sarries.
The likes of Afoa, Trev and Naqelevuki used off the shoulder crashing through the opposition defence.
- Armitage is the man charged with reaching the breakdown first and look to turnover possession. We will always look to attack quickly off turnover ball. With Armitage and BdP, we feel our breakdown play will be crucial today.
- Box kicks from Peel and up and unders from Wilkinson to give the opposition problems in the air.
Lightning back three to really get the chase on.
- Look to play attacking rugby in the backs, getting the likes of Kahui and Nacewa on the ball when we can.
- Our back three are encouraged to do what they do best - counter attacking and running the ball back. If isolated all have good kicking games, but the counter is what we ask them to look for.
- Wilkinson to kick all penalites.
Saracens
Manager – ChequeredJersey
01. Matt Mullan | 09. Richard Wigglesworth |
02. Rob Hawkins | 10. Harry Leonard (k.) |
03. Carlos Nieto | |
04. Steve Borthwick (c.) | 11. Sam Smith |
05. George Skivington | 12. Shane Geraghty |
06. Jacques Burger | 13. Conrad Smith |
07. Richie McCaw | 14. Ugo Monye |
08. Ernst Joubert | 15. Chris Wyles |
subs 16. John Smit
17. Jared Saunders
18. Mako Vuniploa
19. Hugh Vyvvan
20. Chris York
21. Morgan Parra
22. Derek Hougaard
23. Drew Mitchell
Tactics
In order to ensure adequate rest and to maximise this opportunity to rotate our squad, we shall not be utilising players in the 7s tournament where possible. We are missing some carriers in the forwards so the aim will be to work as a group with mauls and picks then get the ball out to our talented backs as soon as possible. McCaw and Burger will ensure at least one of them makes every breakdown, then the aim will be get our ball back safely rather than swiftly until an opportunity out wide presents itself due to numbers being sucked into the mauls and rucks we are going to force. As soon as this occurs our backrow will speed the ball as much as possible and we will utilise Leonard, Geraghty and C. Smith's excellent distribution to allow C. Smith, S. Smith, Geraghty, Monye and Wyles to execute their respective running games. When breaks are made, C. Smith and the backrow should be backing them up and we wil aim to keep the ball alive or being recycled as swiftly as possible once the backs are moving. Monye and Wyles will be coming off their wings and picking lines off the centres. It doesn't matter if we miss tackles in defence, we have the backrow and back 3 to cover for this and McCaw is excellent at punishing isolated carriers. The combined kicking options of 9, 10 and 12 will also allow us to switch to a chip/kick attack game if the original plan falters, and Hougaard and Parra can let us play a tighter game off the bench, backed up by the mean forwards we have there like Smit and Botha. We will also kick to the corner where possible to use our effective lineout and will apply the same maul then spin tactics off of that.
Set pieces- our scrum and lineout are both strong and we will hope to at least win our own ball. Our front row could be more experienced but there is plenty of power behind them, and when ball is good we will execute backrow moves off the scrum in opponent territory using Joubert's carrying to make yards then McCaw's link-work to spread/recycle the ball wide quickly missing out 9.
Defence- we will use a blitz defence to pressurise Exeter and to prevent them from putting pressure on Geraghty on the back-foot. The 10-12 channel looks vulnerable, but as a club our line is excellent and C. Smith will replace Barritt as its coordinator. Mullan's job is to guard the 10-12 channel on the sweep when possible to prevent any exploitation of it.
Peel is an excellent 9 in form, but if anyone can pressurise him off the start of moves, it's McCaw and Burger. Make Peel's life hell and Wilkinson is not the best player at moving a back-line and we can kill attacks early on and our rush will increase the chance of turnovers for us.
Breakdown- With Burger and McCaw in play we should be able to edge the breakdown. They will slow ball as much as possible and make sure our ball is safe then strike when an opportunity presents and henceforth maximise speed of ball.
Attack- Once the ball is in the backs, run anything that is on and pass the ball around to manipulate gaps. Our midfield and wings are excellent attacking runners in different ways and all the infield backs are good passers. Someone will make a break and Burger, McCaw and C. Smith are experts at backing these up to keep the move alive. Switches will force even more gaps
-The key point is to use quick feet and sleight of hand not power. We will not overpower the opposition but we can dance around them. Wilkinson won't miss tackles but if we draw him in with Geraghty then gaps will appear.
Kicking- With good options at 9, 10 and 12 there should be less pressure on kickers out of hand. Aim for the corners so we can use our lineout. If Exeter tries to blitz us to stop our running game, chip them as Monye is a big lad and Conrad is a good chaser. Wilkinson may beat any one of our players in a kicking duel but with 3 and Wyles and Monye kick defending we will be fine.
Forwards- We may lack a few strong carriers but our forwards will work as a unit. Their job is not to individually make carries in the tight 5 but rather to work as a swarm and force Exeter to commit players. I don't want players going in alone in the tight 5 ever.
Subs- We have some strong subs here- Smit and Botha can add guts and work to our pack, York covers 6 and 8 and is energetic and a good footballer increasing our link options. Parra can add control to the game, and Hougaard is a steady 10 to go with him if throwing the ball around fails. Mitchell should run tired legs ragged if we need him.
The only planned changes are to bring Parra on at 9 and Smit at 2 with 20-15 to go, and Drew Mitchell for a run-out in the last 10 at least. Other changes should only occur if we need to change approach or players are exhausted, injured or badly matched up. When Parra comes on, we will keep the same gameplan, but with increased kicking for the lines.
Harlequins v Worcester Warriors
Harlequins
Manager – Driver
01.Rhys Gill | 09.Luke Burguss |
02.Joe Grey | 10.Nick Evans(k) |
03.James Johnstone | |
04.Ollie Kohn | 11.George North |
05.George Robson | 12.Wesley Fofana |
06.Chris Robshaw | 13.Elliot Daley |
07.Matt Kvesic | 14.James Short |
08.Nick Easter | 15.Adam Ashley-Cooper |
16.Tom Lindsey 17.Mark Lambert 18.Kieron Brookes 19.Tom Denton 20.Jack Clifford 21.Nic Berry 22.Owen Farrell 23.Jared Payne
Tactics
- Evans to attack the gainline and play the game at a high tempo and look to use the likes of North , Fofana , Short and AAC.
- Use the lineout as a wepon with Robson snapping at the throw on our on ball to enable quick ball and putting pressure on the Wuss throw.
- Plenty of top grafters in our pack (Kvesic , Kohn , Gill , Grey and JJ) these will allow Robshaw to do what he does best a pop up in the loose and link play togeather.
- Bring Farrell on with 20 minutes to go to for Short with Daley going to wing and Farrell at 13 to give us a split field kicking option
Worcester Warriors
Manager – InTheFastLane
01. Joe Marler | 09. Will Genia |
02. Stephen Moore | 10. Dan Carter |
03. Tevita Tauempeau | |
04. Gerhard Mostert | 11. David Strettle |
05. Graham Kitchener | 12. Brad Barritt |
06. James Haskell | 13. Maa Nonu |
07. Michael Hooper | 14. Marcel Garvey |
08. Ben Morgan | 15. Kurtley Beale |
16 Ed Shervington 17 George Porter 18 Oliver Tomaszcyzk 19 James Percival 20 Andy Saull 21 Shaun Perry 22 Matt Hopper 23 Luke Rooney
Newcastle Falcons v Stormers
Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Fluxy
01. Alex Corbisiero | 09. Ruan Pienaar (K) |
02. David Paice | 10. Tom Heathcote |
03. David Wilson | |
04. Eben Etzebeth | 11. Topsy Ojo |
05. James Hudson (C) | 12. Steven Shingler |
06. Steve Mafi | 13. Dominic Waldlouck |
07. Jamie Gibson | 14. Cory Jane |
08. Alex Gray | 15. Nick Abendanon |
16. Tom Mercey 17. Rob Vickers 18. Grant Shiells 19. Tim Swinson 20. Hienrich Brussow 21. Paul Hodgson 22. Joel Hodgson 23. Seb Stegmann
Tactics
TBC
Stormers
Manager –
01. Deon Carstens | 09. Dewaldt Duvenage |
02. Tiaan Liebenberg | 10. Peter Grant |
03. Frans Malherbe | |
04. Eben Etzebeth | 11. Bryan Habana |
05. Andries Bekker | 12. Jean De Villiers |
06. Siya Kolisi | 13. Juan De Jongh |
07. Duane Vermulean | 14. Gio Aplon |
08. Schalk Burger | 15. Joe Pietersen |
16. Steven Kitshoff 17. Deon Fourie 18. Brok Harris 19. De Kock Steenkamp 20. Rynhardt Elstadt 21. Louis Schreuder 22. Burton Francis 23. Gerhard van den Heever
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Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Saracens
15- Wyles
14- Monye
13- Tomkins
12- Allen
11- Maddock
10- Leonard
9- Spencer
8- York
7- Fraser
6- Brown
5- Borthwick (k.)
4- Botha
3- Nieto
2- Allen
1- Mullan
16- Saunders
17- Smit
18- Vunipola
19- Vyvvan
20- McCaw
21- Parra
22- Geraghty
23- Ransom
15- Wyles
14- Monye
13- Tomkins
12- Allen
11- Maddock
10- Leonard
9- Spencer
8- York
7- Fraser
6- Brown
5- Borthwick (k.)
4- Botha
3- Nieto
2- Allen
1- Mullan
16- Saunders
17- Smit
18- Vunipola
19- Vyvvan
20- McCaw
21- Parra
22- Geraghty
23- Ransom
ChequeredJersey- Posts : 18707
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Age : 35
Location : London, UK
Re: Summer Cup Round 1
May make some changes before saturday
ChequeredJersey- Posts : 18707
Join date : 2011-12-23
Age : 35
Location : London, UK
Re: Summer Cup Round 1
My old side in my first game
Can't wait to see Borths in kicking duties
Can't wait to see Borths in kicking duties
LukeLovesLuka- Posts : 5865
Join date : 2011-04-19
Age : 40
Location : London
Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Oops, meant captain. Harry Leonard kicking
ChequeredJersey- Posts : 18707
Join date : 2011-12-23
Age : 35
Location : London, UK
Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Can you use the Sarries team sheet format for your team please CJ mate
Saracens
Manager – ChequeredJersey
Tactics
Saracens
Manager – ChequeredJersey
01. | 09. |
02. | 10. |
03. | |
04. | 11. |
05. | 12. |
06. | 13. |
07. | 14. |
08. | 15. |
Tactics
SirJohnnyEnglish- Posts : 8536
Join date : 2011-05-10
Age : 36
Location : Limerick
Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Do you have the Exeter format.
LukeLovesLuka- Posts : 5865
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Age : 40
Location : London
Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Cool, can't on iPhone. Will do when I get to laptop. Sorry
ChequeredJersey- Posts : 18707
Join date : 2011-12-23
Age : 35
Location : London, UK
Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Cheers CJ.
Luke,
Exeter Chiefs
Manager – Luke
Tactics
Luke,
Exeter Chiefs
Manager – Luke
01. | 09. |
02. | 10. |
03. | |
04. | 11. |
05. | 12. |
06. | 13. |
07. | 14. |
08. | 15. |
Tactics
SirJohnnyEnglish- Posts : 8536
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Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Cheers bud, up tonight or in the morning.
LukeLovesLuka- Posts : 5865
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Age : 40
Location : London
Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Are we still applying the 4 eq starting and 8 in squad rules?
Londonirishollie- Posts : 505
Join date : 2011-06-01
Location : London
Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Yep we are mate
SirJohnnyEnglish- Posts : 8536
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Age : 36
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Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Sale Sharks
Manager – LondonIrishOllie
01.Andrew Sheridan | 09.Hadyn Thomas |
02.Gary Botha | 10.Johan Goosen |
03.Matt Stevens | |
04.Dean Schofield | 11.Mark Cueto |
05.James Gaskell | 12.Jonathon Davies |
06.Schalk Burger | 13.Jaque Fourie |
07.Dave Seymour | 14.Tom Brady |
08.Jordan Crane | 15.Rob Miller |
Subs – 16.Marc Jones 17.Davit Kubriashvilli 18.Logovoi Mulipola 19.Kearnan Myall 20.Richie Vernon 21.Scott Mathie 22.Aaron Cruden 23.Jonny Leota
Tactics
Burger to put alot of pressure on Jackson who has in the past shown he is not up to it.
Goosen to look to play whats in front of him with Davies looking make half breaks and offload to the support lines of Fourie and Brady.
Hadyn Thomas to help play territory when needed and test Gilroy's positioning. If its not paying dividends we will stop with this tactic.
Our pack has a number of players who can make yards, with Burger, Sheridan, Stevens and Crane all capable of making lots of yards.
Back will not be afraid to try things.
Logovoi Mulipola, Myall and Vernon will all make a big impact from the bench.
Cruden, Mulipola and Kubs to come on after 55 mins. The rest of the subs as and when needed.
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Londonirishollie- Posts : 505
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Location : London
Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Saracens
Manager – ChequeredJersey
subs 16. John Smit
17. Jared Saunders
18. Mako Vuniploa
19. Hugh Vyvvan
20. Chris York
21. Morgan Parra
22. Derek Hougaard
23. Drew Mitchell
Tactics
In order to ensure adequate rest and to maximise this opportunity to rotate our squad, we shall not be utilising players in the 7s tournament where possible. We are missing some carriers in the forwards so the aim will be to work as a group with mauls and picks then get the ball out to our talented backs as soon as possible. McCaw and Burger will ensure at least one of them makes every breakdown, then the aim will be get our ball back safely rather than swiftly until an opportunity out wide presents itself due to numbers being sucked into the mauls and rucks we are going to force. As soon as this occurs our backrow will speed the ball as much as possible and we will utilise Leonard, Geraghty and C. Smith's excellent distribution to allow C. Smith, S. Smith, Geraghty, Monye and Wyles to execute their respective running games. When breaks are made, C. Smith and the backrow should be backing them up and we wil aim to keep the ball alive or being recycled as swiftly as possible once the backs are moving. Monye and Wyles will be coming off their wings and picking lines off the centres. It doesn't matter if we miss tackles in defence, we have the backrow and back 3 to cover for this and McCaw is excellent at punishing isolated carriers. The combined kicking options of 9, 10 and 12 will also allow us to switch to a chip/kick attack game if the original plan falters, and Hougaard and Parra can let us play a tighter game off the bench, backed up by the mean forwards we have there like Smit and Botha. We will also kick to the corner where possible to use our effective lineout and will apply the same maul then spin tactics off of that.
Set pieces- our scrum and lineout are both strong and we will hope to at least win our own ball. Our front row could be more experienced but there is plenty of power behind them, and when ball is good we will execute backrow moves off the scrum in opponent territory using Joubert's carrying to make yards then McCaw's link-work to spread/recycle the ball wide quickly missing out 9.
Defence- we will use a blitz defence to pressurise Exeter and to prevent them from putting pressure on Geraghty on the back-foot. The 10-12 channel looks vulnerable, but as a club our line is excellent and C. Smith will replace Barritt as its coordinator. Mullan's job is to guard the 10-12 channel on the sweep when possible to prevent any exploitation of it.
Peel is an excellent 9 in form, but if anyone can pressurise him off the start of moves, it's McCaw and Burger. Make Peel's life hell and Wilkinson is not the best player at moving a back-line and we can kill attacks early on and our rush will increase the chance of turnovers for us.
Breakdown- With Burger and McCaw in play we should be able to edge the breakdown. They will slow ball as much as possible and make sure our ball is safe then strike when an opportunity presents and henceforth maximise speed of ball.
Attack- Once the ball is in the backs, run anything that is on and pass the ball around to manipulate gaps. Our midfield and wings are excellent attacking runners in different ways and all the infield backs are good passers. Someone will make a break and Burger, McCaw and C. Smith are experts at backing these up to keep the move alive. Switches will force even more gaps
-The key point is to use quick feet and sleight of hand not power. We will not overpower the opposition but we can dance around them. Wilkinson won't miss tackles but if we draw him in with Geraghty then gaps will appear.
Kicking- With good options at 9, 10 and 12 there should be less pressure on kickers out of hand. Aim for the corners so we can use our lineout. If Exeter tries to blitz us to stop our running game, chip them as Monye is a big lad and Conrad is a good chaser. Wilkinson may beat any one of our players in a kicking duel but with 3 and Wyles and Monye kick defending we will be fine.
Forwards- We may lack a few strong carriers but our forwards will work as a unit. Their job is not to individually make carries in the tight 5 but rather to work as a swarm and force Exeter to commit players. I don't want players going in alone in the tight 5 ever.
Subs- We have some strong subs here- Smit and Botha can add guts and work to our pack, York covers 6 and 8 and is energetic and a good footballer increasing our link options. Parra can add control to the game, and Hougaard is a steady 10 to go with him if throwing the ball around fails. Mitchell should run tired legs ragged if we need him.
The only planned changes are to bring Parra on at 9 and Smit at 2 with 20-15 to go, and Drew Mitchell for a run-out in the last 10 at least. Other changes should only occur if we need to change approach or players are exhausted, injured or badly matched up. When Parra comes on, we will keep the same gameplan, but with increased kicking for the lines.
Manager – ChequeredJersey
01. Matt Mullan | 09. Richard Wigglesworth |
02. Rob Hawkins | 10. Harry Leonard (k.) |
03. Carlos Nieto | |
04. Steve Borthwick (c.) | 11. Sam Smith |
05. George Skivington | 12. Shane Geraghty |
06. Jacques Burger | 13. Conrad Smith |
07. Richie McCaw | 14. Ugo Monye |
08. Ernst Joubert | 15. Chris Wyles |
subs 16. John Smit
17. Jared Saunders
18. Mako Vuniploa
19. Hugh Vyvvan
20. Chris York
21. Morgan Parra
22. Derek Hougaard
23. Drew Mitchell
Tactics
In order to ensure adequate rest and to maximise this opportunity to rotate our squad, we shall not be utilising players in the 7s tournament where possible. We are missing some carriers in the forwards so the aim will be to work as a group with mauls and picks then get the ball out to our talented backs as soon as possible. McCaw and Burger will ensure at least one of them makes every breakdown, then the aim will be get our ball back safely rather than swiftly until an opportunity out wide presents itself due to numbers being sucked into the mauls and rucks we are going to force. As soon as this occurs our backrow will speed the ball as much as possible and we will utilise Leonard, Geraghty and C. Smith's excellent distribution to allow C. Smith, S. Smith, Geraghty, Monye and Wyles to execute their respective running games. When breaks are made, C. Smith and the backrow should be backing them up and we wil aim to keep the ball alive or being recycled as swiftly as possible once the backs are moving. Monye and Wyles will be coming off their wings and picking lines off the centres. It doesn't matter if we miss tackles in defence, we have the backrow and back 3 to cover for this and McCaw is excellent at punishing isolated carriers. The combined kicking options of 9, 10 and 12 will also allow us to switch to a chip/kick attack game if the original plan falters, and Hougaard and Parra can let us play a tighter game off the bench, backed up by the mean forwards we have there like Smit and Botha. We will also kick to the corner where possible to use our effective lineout and will apply the same maul then spin tactics off of that.
Set pieces- our scrum and lineout are both strong and we will hope to at least win our own ball. Our front row could be more experienced but there is plenty of power behind them, and when ball is good we will execute backrow moves off the scrum in opponent territory using Joubert's carrying to make yards then McCaw's link-work to spread/recycle the ball wide quickly missing out 9.
Defence- we will use a blitz defence to pressurise Exeter and to prevent them from putting pressure on Geraghty on the back-foot. The 10-12 channel looks vulnerable, but as a club our line is excellent and C. Smith will replace Barritt as its coordinator. Mullan's job is to guard the 10-12 channel on the sweep when possible to prevent any exploitation of it.
Peel is an excellent 9 in form, but if anyone can pressurise him off the start of moves, it's McCaw and Burger. Make Peel's life hell and Wilkinson is not the best player at moving a back-line and we can kill attacks early on and our rush will increase the chance of turnovers for us.
Breakdown- With Burger and McCaw in play we should be able to edge the breakdown. They will slow ball as much as possible and make sure our ball is safe then strike when an opportunity presents and henceforth maximise speed of ball.
Attack- Once the ball is in the backs, run anything that is on and pass the ball around to manipulate gaps. Our midfield and wings are excellent attacking runners in different ways and all the infield backs are good passers. Someone will make a break and Burger, McCaw and C. Smith are experts at backing these up to keep the move alive. Switches will force even more gaps
-The key point is to use quick feet and sleight of hand not power. We will not overpower the opposition but we can dance around them. Wilkinson won't miss tackles but if we draw him in with Geraghty then gaps will appear.
Kicking- With good options at 9, 10 and 12 there should be less pressure on kickers out of hand. Aim for the corners so we can use our lineout. If Exeter tries to blitz us to stop our running game, chip them as Monye is a big lad and Conrad is a good chaser. Wilkinson may beat any one of our players in a kicking duel but with 3 and Wyles and Monye kick defending we will be fine.
Forwards- We may lack a few strong carriers but our forwards will work as a unit. Their job is not to individually make carries in the tight 5 but rather to work as a swarm and force Exeter to commit players. I don't want players going in alone in the tight 5 ever.
Subs- We have some strong subs here- Smit and Botha can add guts and work to our pack, York covers 6 and 8 and is energetic and a good footballer increasing our link options. Parra can add control to the game, and Hougaard is a steady 10 to go with him if throwing the ball around fails. Mitchell should run tired legs ragged if we need him.
The only planned changes are to bring Parra on at 9 and Smit at 2 with 20-15 to go, and Drew Mitchell for a run-out in the last 10 at least. Other changes should only occur if we need to change approach or players are exhausted, injured or badly matched up. When Parra comes on, we will keep the same gameplan, but with increased kicking for the lines.
ChequeredJersey- Posts : 18707
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Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Exeter Chiefs
Manager – Luke
16. Luke Cowan-Dickie 17. Neil Clark 18. Hoani Tui 19. Tommy Hayes 20. James Scaysbrook 21. Kevin Barrett 22. Ignacio Mieres 23. Ollie Phillips
Tactics
We will play a structured game built around our massive carrying pack, the strength of our set piece and getting our backline into space.
- Attack the scrum as a weapon - and call when we can. Look to really get the shove on.
- Use Wilkinson's boot to attack our strong lineout with Hanks, Horwill and Johnson. We will relentlessly target the opposition's throws.
- Massive line-breakers right throughout the side that will look to tire down Sarries defence. We will use our big carriers consistently to tire down Sarries.
The likes of Afoa, Trev and Naqelevuki used off the shoulder crashing through the opposition defence.
- Armitage is the man charged with reaching the breakdown first and look to turnover possession. We will always look to attack quickly off turnover ball. With Armitage and BdP, we feel our breakdown play will be crucial today.
- Box kicks from Peel and up and unders from Wilkinson to give the opposition problems in the air.
Lightning back three to really get the chase on.
- Look to play attacking rugby in the backs, getting the likes of Kahui and Nacewa on the ball when we can.
- Our back three are encouraged to do what they do best - counter attacking and running the ball back. If isolated all have good kicking games, but the counter is what we ask them to look for.
- Wilkinson to kick all penalites.
Manager – Luke
01. Perry Freshwater | 09. Dwayne Peel |
02. Bismarck du Plessis | 10. Jonny Wilkinson (k) |
03. John Afoa | |
04. James Hanks | 11. Gonzalo Camacho |
05. James Horwill (c) | 12. Sireli Naqelevuki |
06. Tom Johnson | 13. Richard Kahui |
07. Steffon Armitage | 14. Paul Sackey |
08. Ofisa Treviranus | 15. Isa Nacewa |
Tactics
We will play a structured game built around our massive carrying pack, the strength of our set piece and getting our backline into space.
- Attack the scrum as a weapon - and call when we can. Look to really get the shove on.
- Use Wilkinson's boot to attack our strong lineout with Hanks, Horwill and Johnson. We will relentlessly target the opposition's throws.
- Massive line-breakers right throughout the side that will look to tire down Sarries defence. We will use our big carriers consistently to tire down Sarries.
The likes of Afoa, Trev and Naqelevuki used off the shoulder crashing through the opposition defence.
- Armitage is the man charged with reaching the breakdown first and look to turnover possession. We will always look to attack quickly off turnover ball. With Armitage and BdP, we feel our breakdown play will be crucial today.
- Box kicks from Peel and up and unders from Wilkinson to give the opposition problems in the air.
Lightning back three to really get the chase on.
- Look to play attacking rugby in the backs, getting the likes of Kahui and Nacewa on the ball when we can.
- Our back three are encouraged to do what they do best - counter attacking and running the ball back. If isolated all have good kicking games, but the counter is what we ask them to look for.
- Wilkinson to kick all penalites.
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LukeLovesLuka- Posts : 5865
Join date : 2011-04-19
Age : 40
Location : London
Re: Summer Cup Round 1
sorry lads no time to do format as going on holiday today but if someone could format my team...
1 Payne
2 Chuter
3 Mas
4 Garvey
5 Wentzel
6 Dusatoir
7 Salvi
8 Parisse
9 Dickson
10 Steyn
11 Ansbro
12 Turner -Hall
13 Joseph
14 Halfpenny
15 Brown
16 Tau'lafo
17 Brooker
18 Broster
19 Birkett
20 Wannenburg
21 Young
22 Robinson
23 Varndell
1 Payne
2 Chuter
3 Mas
4 Garvey
5 Wentzel
6 Dusatoir
7 Salvi
8 Parisse
9 Dickson
10 Steyn
11 Ansbro
12 Turner -Hall
13 Joseph
14 Halfpenny
15 Brown
16 Tau'lafo
17 Brooker
18 Broster
19 Birkett
20 Wannenburg
21 Young
22 Robinson
23 Varndell
stnick88- Posts : 5345
Join date : 2011-05-10
Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Very very pushed for time sorry.
16. Ward 17. Harden 18. Murphy 19. Cane 20. Qera 21. Robson 22. Mills 23. Balshaw
- Wood
- Dawiduk
- Jones
- Savage
- Whitelock
- Buxton
- Burgess
- JVN ©
- Yachvilli
- Burns (k)
- Sharples
- EFS
- Trinder
- May
- Lambie
16. Ward 17. Harden 18. Murphy 19. Cane 20. Qera 21. Robson 22. Mills 23. Balshaw
prop_lyd- Posts : 10387
Join date : 2011-01-28
Age : 36
Location : Rogerstone, Wales
Re: Summer Cup Round 1
If you need a hand SJE I can put teams in format later
Fluxy- Aviva Premiership Commissioner
- Posts : 12117
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Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Would be much appreciated cheers Fluxy mate!
SirJohnnyEnglish- Posts : 8536
Join date : 2011-05-10
Age : 36
Location : Limerick
Re: Summer Cup Round 1
London Wasps
Manager – Stnick88
16. Tau'lafo 17. Brooker 18. Broster 19. Birkett 20. Wannenburg 21. Young 22. Robinson 23. Varndell
Gloucester
Manager – prop_lyd
16. Ward 17. Harden 18. Murphy 19. Cane 20. Qera 21. Robson 22. Mills 23. Balshaw
Falcons Director of Rugby Sam Flux has named a much changed team with a wide range of new faces since the end of the last domestic season. Flux was quoted saying in a press conference "this is a new oppurtunity for the club to build some important foundations with the up and coming stars and proven quality players that we have managed to bring to this club. We have given the chance for some new boys to put their hands up for starting berths come the new season, and allowed some of last seasons players have to a prolonged rest in some cases, as their chance to prove their worth will come around in the following weeks."
Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Fluxy
16. Tom Mercey 17. Rob Vickers 18. Grant Shiells 19. Tim Swinson 20. Hienrich Brussow 21. Paul Hodgson 22. Joel Hodgson 23. Seb Stegmann
Tactics
TBC
Manager – Stnick88
01. Tim Payne | 09. Karl Dickson |
02. George Chuter | 10. Morne Steyn |
03. Nicolas Mas | |
04. Matt Garvey | 11. Jo Ansbro |
05. Marco Wentzel | 12. Jordan Turner-Hall |
06. Thierry Dusatoir | 13. Jonathan Joseph |
07. Julien Salvi | 14. Leigh Halfpenny |
08. Sergio Parisse | 15. Mike Brown |
16. Tau'lafo 17. Brooker 18. Broster 19. Birkett 20. Wannenburg 21. Young 22. Robinson 23. Varndell
Gloucester
Manager – prop_lyd
01. Nick Wood | 09. Dimitri Yachvili |
02. Darren Dawiduk | 10. Freddie Burns (k) |
03. Adam Jones | |
04. Tom Savage | 11. Charlie Sharlpes |
05. Sam Whitelock | 12. EFS |
06. Peter Buxton | 13. Henry Trinder |
07. Phil Burgess | 14. Johnny May |
08. JVN (c) | 15. Pat Lambie |
16. Ward 17. Harden 18. Murphy 19. Cane 20. Qera 21. Robson 22. Mills 23. Balshaw
Falcons Director of Rugby Sam Flux has named a much changed team with a wide range of new faces since the end of the last domestic season. Flux was quoted saying in a press conference "this is a new oppurtunity for the club to build some important foundations with the up and coming stars and proven quality players that we have managed to bring to this club. We have given the chance for some new boys to put their hands up for starting berths come the new season, and allowed some of last seasons players have to a prolonged rest in some cases, as their chance to prove their worth will come around in the following weeks."
Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Fluxy
01. Alex Corbisiero | 09. Ruan Pienaar (K) |
02. David Paice | 10. Tom Heathcote |
03. David Wilson | |
04. Eben Etzebeth | 11. Topsy Ojo |
05. James Hudson (C) | 12. Steven Shingler |
06. Steve Mafi | 13. Dominic Waldlouck |
07. Jamie Gibson | 14. Cory Jane |
08. Alex Gray | 15. Nick Abendanon |
16. Tom Mercey 17. Rob Vickers 18. Grant Shiells 19. Tim Swinson 20. Hienrich Brussow 21. Paul Hodgson 22. Joel Hodgson 23. Seb Stegmann
Tactics
TBC
Fluxy- Aviva Premiership Commissioner
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Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Leicester Tigers
Manager – Sgt_Pooly
16. Tom Youngs 17. Dan Cole 18. Boris Stankovich 19. Joe Launchbury 20. Tom Croft 21. Danny Care 22. Berrick Barnes 23. George Lowe
Manager – Sgt_Pooly
01. Marco Ayerza | 09. Ben Youngs |
02. Rob Webber | 10. Toby Flood |
03. Martin Castrogiovani | |
04. Richie Gray | 11. Miles Benjamin |
05. Geoff Parling | 12. James O'Connor |
06. Maurie Fa'asalavu | 13. Manu Tuilagi |
07. Sam Warburton(c) | 14. Christian Wade |
08. Thomas Waldroum | 15. Rob Kearney |
16. Tom Youngs 17. Dan Cole 18. Boris Stankovich 19. Joe Launchbury 20. Tom Croft 21. Danny Care 22. Berrick Barnes 23. George Lowe
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Cheers Fluxy!
SirJohnnyEnglish- Posts : 8536
Join date : 2011-05-10
Age : 36
Location : Limerick
Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Harlequins
Manager – Driver
16.Tom Lindsey 17.Mark Lambert 18.Kieron Brookes 19.Tom Denton 20.Jack Clifford 21.Nic Berry 22.Owen Farrell 23.Jared Payne
Tactics
- Evans to attack the gainline and play the game at a high tempo and look to use the likes of North , Fofana , Short and AAC.
- Use the lineout as a wepon with Robson snapping at the throw on our on ball to enable quick ball and putting pressure on the Wuss throw.
- Plenty of top grafters in our pack (Kvesic , Kohn , Gill , Grey and JJ) these will allow Robshaw to do what he does best a pop up in the loose and link play togeather.
- Bring Farrell on with 20 minutes to go to for Short with Daley going to wing and Farrell at 13 to give us a split field kicking option
Manager – Driver
01.Rhys Gill | 09.Luke Burguss |
02.Joe Grey | 10.Nick Evans(k) |
03.James Johnstone | |
04.Ollie Kohn | 11.George North |
05.George Robson | 12.Wesley Fofana |
06.Chris Robshaw | 13.Elliot Daley |
07.Matt Kvesic | 14.James Short |
08.Nick Easter | 15.Adam Ashley-Cooper |
16.Tom Lindsey 17.Mark Lambert 18.Kieron Brookes 19.Tom Denton 20.Jack Clifford 21.Nic Berry 22.Owen Farrell 23.Jared Payne
Tactics
- Evans to attack the gainline and play the game at a high tempo and look to use the likes of North , Fofana , Short and AAC.
- Use the lineout as a wepon with Robson snapping at the throw on our on ball to enable quick ball and putting pressure on the Wuss throw.
- Plenty of top grafters in our pack (Kvesic , Kohn , Gill , Grey and JJ) these will allow Robshaw to do what he does best a pop up in the loose and link play togeather.
- Bring Farrell on with 20 minutes to go to for Short with Daley going to wing and Farrell at 13 to give us a split field kicking option
Driver- Posts : 11038
Join date : 2011-04-20
Age : 33
Location : Hartlepool
Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Glos Tactics
*Look to put pressure on up front.
*Some players chance to impress.
*Quick ball to the pacy backs.
*Yachvilli to control the game and give Burns the quick ball he needs.
*Lambie to strike as and when and EFS to be the playmaker. Defend hard and blitz (in your face).
*Bring on Ward, Harden, Cane, Robson and Mills to alter the pace and continue to add pressure to the breakdown.
*Look to put pressure on up front.
*Some players chance to impress.
*Quick ball to the pacy backs.
*Yachvilli to control the game and give Burns the quick ball he needs.
*Lambie to strike as and when and EFS to be the playmaker. Defend hard and blitz (in your face).
*Bring on Ward, Harden, Cane, Robson and Mills to alter the pace and continue to add pressure to the breakdown.
prop_lyd- Posts : 10387
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Age : 36
Location : Rogerstone, Wales
Re: Summer Cup Round 1
London Irish
Manager – Pullthestrings
16. William Servat 17. Max Lahiff 18. Gethin Jenkins 19. Kieren Low 20. David Sisi 21. Jack Moates 22. Quade Cooper 23. Anthony Watson
Tactics
TBC
Manager – Pullthestrings
01. Clarke Dermody (c) | 09. Darren Allinson |
02. James Buckland | 10. Brock James (k) |
03. Euan Murray | |
04. Bryn Evans | 11. Marlande Yarde |
05. Simon Shaw | 12. Daniel Bowden |
06. Jerome Kaino | 13. Aurelien Rougerie |
07. David Pocock | 14. Sailosi Tagicakibau |
08. Tom Guest | 15. Delon Armitage |
16. William Servat 17. Max Lahiff 18. Gethin Jenkins 19. Kieren Low 20. David Sisi 21. Jack Moates 22. Quade Cooper 23. Anthony Watson
Tactics
TBC
pullthestrings- Posts : 5914
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Location : Reading
Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Northampton Saints
Manager – SirJohnnyEnglish
16. Steven Kitshoff 17. Richardt Strauss 18. Brian Mujati 19. James Craig 20. Phil Dowson 21. Martin Roberts 22. Stephen Myler 23. Scott Armstrong
General Game Plan:
• Fast paced carrying game with runners coming off the 9-10 axis using the offload to keep things going
• Back 3 to join the line as much as possible looking for offloads and inside balls.
• Aggressive blitz with Dickson sweeping on defence. Foden & Ashton sitting deep for kick return
• Strengthen the front 5 from the bench in last 20 minutes and take stranglehold of set piece.
Manager – SirJohnnyEnglish
01. Soane Tonga'uiha | 09. Lee Dickson |
02. Dylan Hartley | 10. Johnny Sexton |
03. Paul Doran-Jones | |
04. Courtney Lawes | 11. Chris Ashton |
05. Samu Manoa | 12. Sonny Bill Williams |
06. Stephen Ferris | 13. George Pisi |
07. Tom Wood | 14. Jamie Elliot |
08. Kieran Read | 15. Ben Foden |
16. Steven Kitshoff 17. Richardt Strauss 18. Brian Mujati 19. James Craig 20. Phil Dowson 21. Martin Roberts 22. Stephen Myler 23. Scott Armstrong
General Game Plan:
• Fast paced carrying game with runners coming off the 9-10 axis using the offload to keep things going
• Back 3 to join the line as much as possible looking for offloads and inside balls.
• Aggressive blitz with Dickson sweeping on defence. Foden & Ashton sitting deep for kick return
• Strengthen the front 5 from the bench in last 20 minutes and take stranglehold of set piece.
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Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Just Bath and Worcester needed and we can kick this off!
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Re: Summer Cup Round 1
1 Joe Marler
2 Stephen Moore
3 Tevita Tauempeau
4 Gerhard Mostert
5 Graham Kitchener
6 James Haskell
7 Michael Hooper
8 Ben Morgan
9 Will Genia
10 Dan Carter
11 David Strettle
12 Brad Barritt
13 Maa Nonu
14 Marcel Garvey
15 Kurtley Beale
16 Ed Shervington
17 George Porter
18 Oliver Tomaszcyzk
19 James Percival
20 Andy Saull
21 Shaun Perry
22 Matt Hopper
23 Luke Rooney
2 Stephen Moore
3 Tevita Tauempeau
4 Gerhard Mostert
5 Graham Kitchener
6 James Haskell
7 Michael Hooper
8 Ben Morgan
9 Will Genia
10 Dan Carter
11 David Strettle
12 Brad Barritt
13 Maa Nonu
14 Marcel Garvey
15 Kurtley Beale
16 Ed Shervington
17 George Porter
18 Oliver Tomaszcyzk
19 James Percival
20 Andy Saull
21 Shaun Perry
22 Matt Hopper
23 Luke Rooney
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Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Leicester Tigers 32-31 Leinster Rugby
See an even scrum battle. Tigers with the stronger front row scrummagers but it’s a massive Leinster engine room. Tigers will do more with their own ball of the lineout. Back row battle edges to the Irish. Breakdown battle keenly fought but more carrying and linking from Leinster. Halfbacks one a piece with Youngs and Sexton the stand outs. Midfield goes to Tigers but back 3 to Leinster. Good impact from both benches.
Cracking game on show with the midfield of Tigers levelling out the extra carrying of the Leinster backrow. Can’t see either side getting on top and this is decided by home advantage.
London Wasps 25-22 London Irish
See Mas getting more joy for Wasps at the scrum then Murray for Irish. Wentzel gives Wasps an edge in the air. Cracking backrow battle. Pocock will seal a few more turnovers but more carrying from Wasps. In the backs bit more control from the Wasps halfbacks but two very good sets of outside backs. Irish have great impact of the bench and can control the scrum in the final quarter.
Wasps will get a bit more control of the game through the set piece and halfbacks and should build a good enough lead to hold off Irish in the last quarter.
Waikato Chiefs v Bath Rugby
Default win.
Ulster Rugby 25-21 Sale Sharks
Even scrum battle but Ulster with more at the lineout. More mobility from the Ulster front 5 will see them get through more work around the park. Advantage to Ulster man for man in the back row with Burger marked down for lack of form. Halfbacks are one a piece with the South Africans the star men. On name value Sale win the midfield but Fourie’s rating falling now in Japan (Not a mark down but will say I prefer JD at 13) and this sees it a lot closer. Wings go to Ulster but Miller the form fullback. Cruden and Kubs the best impact players but Ulster pretty solid from the bench.
Ulster at Ravenhill should get the better of the pack battle and have the players to take advantage.
Exeter Chiefs 26-20 Saracens
(Not sure but think Freshwater has retired Luke)
See the Chiefs front row getting an edge at the scrum especialy with a meaty engine room on show. Lineout fairly even but more from the Chiefs front 5 around the park. Interesting back row battle plenty of from for the Chiefs flanks but McCaw and Joubert give Sarries an extra bit of quality. Slight edge to Sarries which makes up for the extra mobility of the Chiefs front 5. Chiefs with a big advantage at halfback. In the backs Conrad Smith the star man on show but Chiefs with more on show overall. Slight defensive concerns for the Sarries 10-12 axis. Parra from the bench can offer a bit more control but not much difference elsewhere from the bench.
Good clean pack battle but the Chiefs halfbacks will dictate the pace of the game for me.
Harlequins 29-25 Worcester Warriors
Even battle at scrum time but Robson sees Quins have a big say at the lineout. Little bit more for Quins at the breakdown but its a powerful back row for Worcester that should have no problem getting over the gain line. Halfbacks go to Worcester but Quins aren’t weak here. In the backlines not sure on Nonu at 13 particularly on current form and think a lot of good attacking play could stop in midfield for Worcester. More attacking threat from the Quins back line. No advantage from the bench for either side really.
Think at home with more in the backs Quins take this one.
Newcastle Falcons 20-22 Stormers
Good scrum battle but Bekker should get an edge in the lineout for the Stormers. In the backrows Burger marked down for lack of form but great form for the Stormers on the flanks sees them edge it a little. Halfbacks are 1 a piece but the Saffas have more in the midfield area. Back 3 fairly even on current form. On the bench Brussow could be a turnover machine but the Stormers have serious physicality to bring in from the bench.
The Stormers have that bit more in the pack and midfield and should frustrate the Falcons.
See an even scrum battle. Tigers with the stronger front row scrummagers but it’s a massive Leinster engine room. Tigers will do more with their own ball of the lineout. Back row battle edges to the Irish. Breakdown battle keenly fought but more carrying and linking from Leinster. Halfbacks one a piece with Youngs and Sexton the stand outs. Midfield goes to Tigers but back 3 to Leinster. Good impact from both benches.
Cracking game on show with the midfield of Tigers levelling out the extra carrying of the Leinster backrow. Can’t see either side getting on top and this is decided by home advantage.
London Wasps 25-22 London Irish
See Mas getting more joy for Wasps at the scrum then Murray for Irish. Wentzel gives Wasps an edge in the air. Cracking backrow battle. Pocock will seal a few more turnovers but more carrying from Wasps. In the backs bit more control from the Wasps halfbacks but two very good sets of outside backs. Irish have great impact of the bench and can control the scrum in the final quarter.
Wasps will get a bit more control of the game through the set piece and halfbacks and should build a good enough lead to hold off Irish in the last quarter.
Waikato Chiefs v Bath Rugby
Default win.
Ulster Rugby 25-21 Sale Sharks
Even scrum battle but Ulster with more at the lineout. More mobility from the Ulster front 5 will see them get through more work around the park. Advantage to Ulster man for man in the back row with Burger marked down for lack of form. Halfbacks are one a piece with the South Africans the star men. On name value Sale win the midfield but Fourie’s rating falling now in Japan (Not a mark down but will say I prefer JD at 13) and this sees it a lot closer. Wings go to Ulster but Miller the form fullback. Cruden and Kubs the best impact players but Ulster pretty solid from the bench.
Ulster at Ravenhill should get the better of the pack battle and have the players to take advantage.
Exeter Chiefs 26-20 Saracens
(Not sure but think Freshwater has retired Luke)
See the Chiefs front row getting an edge at the scrum especialy with a meaty engine room on show. Lineout fairly even but more from the Chiefs front 5 around the park. Interesting back row battle plenty of from for the Chiefs flanks but McCaw and Joubert give Sarries an extra bit of quality. Slight edge to Sarries which makes up for the extra mobility of the Chiefs front 5. Chiefs with a big advantage at halfback. In the backs Conrad Smith the star man on show but Chiefs with more on show overall. Slight defensive concerns for the Sarries 10-12 axis. Parra from the bench can offer a bit more control but not much difference elsewhere from the bench.
Good clean pack battle but the Chiefs halfbacks will dictate the pace of the game for me.
Harlequins 29-25 Worcester Warriors
Even battle at scrum time but Robson sees Quins have a big say at the lineout. Little bit more for Quins at the breakdown but its a powerful back row for Worcester that should have no problem getting over the gain line. Halfbacks go to Worcester but Quins aren’t weak here. In the backlines not sure on Nonu at 13 particularly on current form and think a lot of good attacking play could stop in midfield for Worcester. More attacking threat from the Quins back line. No advantage from the bench for either side really.
Think at home with more in the backs Quins take this one.
Newcastle Falcons 20-22 Stormers
Good scrum battle but Bekker should get an edge in the lineout for the Stormers. In the backrows Burger marked down for lack of form but great form for the Stormers on the flanks sees them edge it a little. Halfbacks are 1 a piece but the Saffas have more in the midfield area. Back 3 fairly even on current form. On the bench Brussow could be a turnover machine but the Stormers have serious physicality to bring in from the bench.
The Stormers have that bit more in the pack and midfield and should frustrate the Falcons.
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Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Northampton Saints 23-22 Gloucester
Tries- Sexton, Foden, Ashton Whitelock, Balshaw
Conversions- Sexton
Penalties- Sexton Burns, Yachvilli x 3
DGs- Sexton
Gloucester win the tight 5 contest, Saints win the backrow. Both sides play very similarly (as in most of the match-ups), but Saints probably better equipped for this style, with backs that are slightly better at quick play off of the 9 and 10 than Gloucester's. This leads to a narrow win. Not a good day for kickers, with both Sexton and Burns being prone to the occasional off-day from the tee. Blitz defence leads to a few mistakes in defence and that leads to the breaks for the tries in the end. 3 tries for Saints to 2 for Gloucester, who kick a lot better when Yachvilli takes over the duties.
Leicester Tigers 31-26 Leinster Rugby
Tries- Youngs, O'Connor, Wade O'Driscoll, O'Brien
Conversions- Flood, O'Connor Sexton x 2
Penalties- O'Connor x 3, Barnes Sexton x 3, Madigan
For me this match is very close everywhere but Tigers edge every single unit and aspect and sees them good. Some great players in the Leinster ranks, but the combos of Youngs-Flood and JOC-Manu and the strength of that backrow means that they won't be able to shine. Leicester will boss the scrum with a frankly superior front 3. Leinster will certainly score tries against that backline but there is no way that JOC, Wade and Kearney don't score more for Leicester. Both teams also have class off of the bench, but Tigers just look like the better side. 3 tries to two victory.
London Wasps 20-20 London Irish
Tries- Brown, Parisse Kaino, Armitage
Conversions- James x2 Steyn x 2
Penalty- James x 2 Steyn x 2
Both sides go out trying to play some rugby, but conditions let them down somewhat (not great weather in London atm). 2 tries apiece but neither side can really take advantage and come out on top, so a draw. As in most matches, the back-row battle is fascinating, almost impossible to call. Both sides comfortably make their kicks, and the territory game is intriguing, but Morne plays that a bit better backed up by Leigh and MB. The Wasps backs look more interesting but with Morne at 10, they don't quite get to utilise it and Irish make up for it in the tight.
Waikato Chiefs v Bath Rugby
Default win.
Ulster Rugby 25-26 Sale Sharks
Tries- Afoa Burger, Davies
Conversions - Pienaar Cruden x 2
Penalty- Pienaar x 6 Goosen x 3
DG- Goosen
Ulster are at home, and that gives them an advantage, and I like their young backline. Close battle in the back row is edged by Ulster, very close in the tight 5 where neither team is fantastic but both solid. Just won there by Sale in the lineouts and Ulster in the scrums. Ulster lead most of the game through Pienaar's game management, even though they struggle to break down Sale's defence, and Sale hang in there with a measured display from Goosen. Then in the last 20, Cruden comes on and ups the pace and JD and Fourie start to get their opposite numbers in their pocket. Too much power for the Ulster backs to handle and Sale go ahead with 5 to go. Jackson misses a winning dropgoal under intense pressure.
Exeter Chiefs Saracens
Can't comment
Harlequins 39-34 Worcester Warriors
Tries- North, Ashley-Cooper, Fofana, Robshaw Beale x2, Genia, Marler,
Conversions- Evans x3, Farrell Carter x 2, Beale x1
Penalties- Evans x3 Carter x 2
Worcester put in a good start and look the better team in the first half- Quins just win in the pack but it's close and despite being out of position Nonu makes some big holes in a defensively weak centre partnership as does Morgan and Beale. Quins get more ball but hit a defensive brick wall, and whilst Carter and Evans both do a great job of the running the game, Genia and Beale start to break the Quins line. Break away tries from North and AAC keep Quins in it, and Robshaw and Kvesic hit stride after a half-time talk to dominate possession. With more ball, Fofana and Daly's strengths come through and Quins have too much.
Newcastle Falcons 16-15 Stormers
Tries- Jane De Jongh, Pietersen
Conversions- Pienaar Grant
Penalties- Pienaar x3 Grant
Stormers have a stronger pack but not by that much, and Newcastle still make parity in the scrums and probably lineouts too. I don't know the Stormers' back row that well so I can't really comment there (apart from Schalk who probably gets yellow carded for trying to remove someone's eye sorry that was in poor taste). Very close battle in the backs too, with the midfield stronger for the Saffers but Newcastle with a better back 3 and (IMO) halfbacks. In the end the difference comes down to 3 things- Pienaar's kicking out of hand and from tee, the home advantage in the drizzle on a cool day in Newcastle, and Cory Jane whose class provides the winning try.
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Tries- Sexton, Foden, Ashton Whitelock, Balshaw
Conversions- Sexton
Penalties- Sexton Burns, Yachvilli x 3
DGs- Sexton
Gloucester win the tight 5 contest, Saints win the backrow. Both sides play very similarly (as in most of the match-ups), but Saints probably better equipped for this style, with backs that are slightly better at quick play off of the 9 and 10 than Gloucester's. This leads to a narrow win. Not a good day for kickers, with both Sexton and Burns being prone to the occasional off-day from the tee. Blitz defence leads to a few mistakes in defence and that leads to the breaks for the tries in the end. 3 tries for Saints to 2 for Gloucester, who kick a lot better when Yachvilli takes over the duties.
Leicester Tigers 31-26 Leinster Rugby
Tries- Youngs, O'Connor, Wade O'Driscoll, O'Brien
Conversions- Flood, O'Connor Sexton x 2
Penalties- O'Connor x 3, Barnes Sexton x 3, Madigan
For me this match is very close everywhere but Tigers edge every single unit and aspect and sees them good. Some great players in the Leinster ranks, but the combos of Youngs-Flood and JOC-Manu and the strength of that backrow means that they won't be able to shine. Leicester will boss the scrum with a frankly superior front 3. Leinster will certainly score tries against that backline but there is no way that JOC, Wade and Kearney don't score more for Leicester. Both teams also have class off of the bench, but Tigers just look like the better side. 3 tries to two victory.
London Wasps 20-20 London Irish
Tries- Brown, Parisse Kaino, Armitage
Conversions- James x2 Steyn x 2
Penalty- James x 2 Steyn x 2
Both sides go out trying to play some rugby, but conditions let them down somewhat (not great weather in London atm). 2 tries apiece but neither side can really take advantage and come out on top, so a draw. As in most matches, the back-row battle is fascinating, almost impossible to call. Both sides comfortably make their kicks, and the territory game is intriguing, but Morne plays that a bit better backed up by Leigh and MB. The Wasps backs look more interesting but with Morne at 10, they don't quite get to utilise it and Irish make up for it in the tight.
Waikato Chiefs v Bath Rugby
Default win.
Ulster Rugby 25-26 Sale Sharks
Tries- Afoa Burger, Davies
Conversions - Pienaar Cruden x 2
Penalty- Pienaar x 6 Goosen x 3
DG- Goosen
Ulster are at home, and that gives them an advantage, and I like their young backline. Close battle in the back row is edged by Ulster, very close in the tight 5 where neither team is fantastic but both solid. Just won there by Sale in the lineouts and Ulster in the scrums. Ulster lead most of the game through Pienaar's game management, even though they struggle to break down Sale's defence, and Sale hang in there with a measured display from Goosen. Then in the last 20, Cruden comes on and ups the pace and JD and Fourie start to get their opposite numbers in their pocket. Too much power for the Ulster backs to handle and Sale go ahead with 5 to go. Jackson misses a winning dropgoal under intense pressure.
Exeter Chiefs Saracens
Can't comment
Harlequins 39-34 Worcester Warriors
Tries- North, Ashley-Cooper, Fofana, Robshaw Beale x2, Genia, Marler,
Conversions- Evans x3, Farrell Carter x 2, Beale x1
Penalties- Evans x3 Carter x 2
Worcester put in a good start and look the better team in the first half- Quins just win in the pack but it's close and despite being out of position Nonu makes some big holes in a defensively weak centre partnership as does Morgan and Beale. Quins get more ball but hit a defensive brick wall, and whilst Carter and Evans both do a great job of the running the game, Genia and Beale start to break the Quins line. Break away tries from North and AAC keep Quins in it, and Robshaw and Kvesic hit stride after a half-time talk to dominate possession. With more ball, Fofana and Daly's strengths come through and Quins have too much.
Newcastle Falcons 16-15 Stormers
Tries- Jane De Jongh, Pietersen
Conversions- Pienaar Grant
Penalties- Pienaar x3 Grant
Stormers have a stronger pack but not by that much, and Newcastle still make parity in the scrums and probably lineouts too. I don't know the Stormers' back row that well so I can't really comment there (apart from Schalk who probably gets yellow carded for trying to remove someone's eye sorry that was in poor taste). Very close battle in the backs too, with the midfield stronger for the Saffers but Newcastle with a better back 3 and (IMO) halfbacks. In the end the difference comes down to 3 things- Pienaar's kicking out of hand and from tee, the home advantage in the drizzle on a cool day in Newcastle, and Cory Jane whose class provides the winning try.
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Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Northampton 34-28 Gloucester
Not much in the fron 5's with some good set piece options and strong carrying. Big step up in quality for Saints in the backrowwith a fantastic combo.
Yach brings a lot more at 9 but I prefer the Saints half back combo and with SBW outside Sexton kinda gives me the horn. Strong back 3's on show but Saints very strong and will take this one.
Wasps - Irish
I think Wasps would get nudge on both set piece with Dermody not great these days and irish lacking a strong lineout leader. AMAZING back rows on show, Kaino lacks form but will hold rating for a bit longer for me.
Little more in the Wasps halfbacks. Pull has transformed his midfield and it has a great balance and will shade the Wasps unit. Not much in the back 3's. Very very tight game but the Wasps front 5 give them a strong set piece platform that Irish don't have enough to counter.
Ulster 21-18 Sale
Think Ulster will get a nudge on in the set piece and a little edge around the backrow and halfbacks. Great centre combo for Sharks but not enough to turn a strong Ulster unit over.
Exeter 22-20 Saracens
Think Exeter will get a little front 5 edge on with a strong outfit (think freshwater has retired though Luke) McCaw stands out in the backrow and with a good 6/8 will drive Sarries forward.
Know little of Leonard tbh so have to rate Exeter unit higher and similar in the centres with Sarries lacking a line breaking option which could harm them against such a physical Exeter side. Little bit too much for Exeter here.
Harlequins 30-29 Worcester
Not much in front 5's although Worcester get a little edge on in scrum and similar in the backrow. Robshaw in magic form though for Quins. Amazing backs on show from both sides but think Worcester just edge overall.
Great signings from both teams though and they look mustard.
Newcastle 16-24 Stormers
I really like Falcons front 5 and they may just edge here. After that it's one way traffic from a very strong Stromers side who totally dominate backrow and centres.
Not much in the fron 5's with some good set piece options and strong carrying. Big step up in quality for Saints in the backrowwith a fantastic combo.
Yach brings a lot more at 9 but I prefer the Saints half back combo and with SBW outside Sexton kinda gives me the horn. Strong back 3's on show but Saints very strong and will take this one.
Wasps - Irish
I think Wasps would get nudge on both set piece with Dermody not great these days and irish lacking a strong lineout leader. AMAZING back rows on show, Kaino lacks form but will hold rating for a bit longer for me.
Little more in the Wasps halfbacks. Pull has transformed his midfield and it has a great balance and will shade the Wasps unit. Not much in the back 3's. Very very tight game but the Wasps front 5 give them a strong set piece platform that Irish don't have enough to counter.
Ulster 21-18 Sale
Think Ulster will get a nudge on in the set piece and a little edge around the backrow and halfbacks. Great centre combo for Sharks but not enough to turn a strong Ulster unit over.
Exeter 22-20 Saracens
Think Exeter will get a little front 5 edge on with a strong outfit (think freshwater has retired though Luke) McCaw stands out in the backrow and with a good 6/8 will drive Sarries forward.
Know little of Leonard tbh so have to rate Exeter unit higher and similar in the centres with Sarries lacking a line breaking option which could harm them against such a physical Exeter side. Little bit too much for Exeter here.
Harlequins 30-29 Worcester
Not much in front 5's although Worcester get a little edge on in scrum and similar in the backrow. Robshaw in magic form though for Quins. Amazing backs on show from both sides but think Worcester just edge overall.
Great signings from both teams though and they look mustard.
Newcastle 16-24 Stormers
I really like Falcons front 5 and they may just edge here. After that it's one way traffic from a very strong Stromers side who totally dominate backrow and centres.
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Re: Summer Cup Round 1
MIght have to consider playing Brits and Allen next game then
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Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Summer Cup is all about trying combo's mate. You get nothing for winning it so no harm in trying new things out that can be used for next season.
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Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Leicester Tigers 34-32 Leinster Rugby
Can see Tigers being matched up front here but having a bit more joy at the breakdown and in the loose with some very strong runners. Two set hb pairings with Sexton just in a little bit more form, only just, In the backs Tigers gain much advantage but will be interesting to see how Kearney copes with high balls from himself!! Tigers will edge this one. Big score.
London Wasps 24-21 London Irish
Wasps have the individuals in the pack but Mas and Parisse but Irish have a better set pack who will gain advantage at the lineout. Even at the breakdown but Wasps take the half backs with Dickson giving cleaner ball. Much much stronger Wasps backline who will cause problems in the league next season wins this for them. If Jenkins and Cooper had started this may have been different.
Waikato Chiefs v Bath Rugby
Default win.
Ulster Rugby 18-19 Sale Sharks
Close here in the front 5 but see Ulster gaining more advantage when it comes to the breakdown. Much more set Ulster half back pairing but do like the look of Goosen and he will get Sale playing well. Can see that getting Davies over the gainline and quick ball for the outside backs. Very close game which I will just edge to Sale with much more impact off the bench.
Exeter Chiefs 30-25 Saracens
May need to look at the tactics limit guys
Front row and 2nd row go to Exeter here with Hanks and Horwill causing issues in the lineouts. Armitage vs McCaw at the moment will be a good battle however ON FORM I'm giving it to Armitage. Sarries win the battle at 8. Much more set hb's for Chiefs with Sarries testing their youngster against a master. More power in the outside backs for Chiefs but Sarries will claw some back with their bench.
Harlequins 34-30 Worcester Warriors
Well Warriors have built a strong front row here but will struggle with the form of the Quins 4-8 who will dominate the breakdown. Morgan and Haskell will gain ground but will not want to get isolated. Halbacks just go to Worcester with Genia on top form again. Beale will make inroads, not sure about Nonu at 13 to be honest but he will stop North cutting inside. Feel Quins have a bit more power in the outside backs. Another big score match here.
Newcastle Falcons 18-21 Stormers
Upfront Falcons will win this battle I feel with only the Stormer's backrow causing Falcons some issues. Think that it's in the backs that the Stormers will nick this game with more quality and young Heathcote (however much I rate him) will struggle against Steyn. Pienaar will put up a good fight and Brussow will cause major issues. Win for the Stormers backline here.
Can see Tigers being matched up front here but having a bit more joy at the breakdown and in the loose with some very strong runners. Two set hb pairings with Sexton just in a little bit more form, only just, In the backs Tigers gain much advantage but will be interesting to see how Kearney copes with high balls from himself!! Tigers will edge this one. Big score.
London Wasps 24-21 London Irish
Wasps have the individuals in the pack but Mas and Parisse but Irish have a better set pack who will gain advantage at the lineout. Even at the breakdown but Wasps take the half backs with Dickson giving cleaner ball. Much much stronger Wasps backline who will cause problems in the league next season wins this for them. If Jenkins and Cooper had started this may have been different.
Waikato Chiefs v Bath Rugby
Default win.
Ulster Rugby 18-19 Sale Sharks
Close here in the front 5 but see Ulster gaining more advantage when it comes to the breakdown. Much more set Ulster half back pairing but do like the look of Goosen and he will get Sale playing well. Can see that getting Davies over the gainline and quick ball for the outside backs. Very close game which I will just edge to Sale with much more impact off the bench.
Exeter Chiefs 30-25 Saracens
May need to look at the tactics limit guys
Front row and 2nd row go to Exeter here with Hanks and Horwill causing issues in the lineouts. Armitage vs McCaw at the moment will be a good battle however ON FORM I'm giving it to Armitage. Sarries win the battle at 8. Much more set hb's for Chiefs with Sarries testing their youngster against a master. More power in the outside backs for Chiefs but Sarries will claw some back with their bench.
Harlequins 34-30 Worcester Warriors
Well Warriors have built a strong front row here but will struggle with the form of the Quins 4-8 who will dominate the breakdown. Morgan and Haskell will gain ground but will not want to get isolated. Halbacks just go to Worcester with Genia on top form again. Beale will make inroads, not sure about Nonu at 13 to be honest but he will stop North cutting inside. Feel Quins have a bit more power in the outside backs. Another big score match here.
Newcastle Falcons 18-21 Stormers
Upfront Falcons will win this battle I feel with only the Stormer's backrow causing Falcons some issues. Think that it's in the backs that the Stormers will nick this game with more quality and young Heathcote (however much I rate him) will struggle against Steyn. Pienaar will put up a good fight and Brussow will cause major issues. Win for the Stormers backline here.
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Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Saints 24-20 Glaws
Love both front fives. Perhaps a slight edge to Saints but not much. I think back row goes to Saints with some serious world class players there. Once again edge towards to the Saints half backs. Think they have enough in their back five and on the bench to see it through
Leicester 33-31 Leinster
Wasps 26-21 Irish
Ulster 27-25 Sale
Exeter 28-22 Sarries
Stormers 36-29 Falcons
Love both front fives. Perhaps a slight edge to Saints but not much. I think back row goes to Saints with some serious world class players there. Once again edge towards to the Saints half backs. Think they have enough in their back five and on the bench to see it through
Leicester 33-31 Leinster
Wasps 26-21 Irish
Ulster 27-25 Sale
Exeter 28-22 Sarries
Stormers 36-29 Falcons
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Re: Summer Cup Round 1
Northampton Saints 18 - 17 Gloucester Rugby
A real good up front here, but the slightly better form in the Glaws front five edges it, the backrow is another good contest but the serious quality from the Saints will win that battle. Can see a good game out back with two different styles of play on show. In overall ability Glos steal it, but the quality in particular spots for Saints manages to keep them in touch and their good bench nicks it at the death.
Leicester Tigers 30 -28 Leinster Rugby
A very even game here IMO. Leinster aren't no slouches but the Tigers will push them all the way. A cheeky tight battle will be edged by Leinster, their front row has been massive in the past in comparison to the Tiggers. In the backrow it is pretty much even, but the battles between the packs will be even with Tigers being more dominant in the tight than the loose. Leinster have the form HB's but you can't deny the class of the tigers pairing and what a battle there in midfield. This is another even fight as Manu and JOC haven't been setting the world alight recently whereas BOD has been good since his return but lacks match fitness. For me the difference in this one is the ability of the Tigers back three to make something out of nothing, whereas the Leinster backthree are solid there is a slight lack of pace against Wade and Benjamin. The final knell in the coffin will be Leicester’s bench, as it has players that could walk into any other starting line up of any team in the league.
London Wasps 26 - 20 London Irish
Wasps have some big names in their pack but they can't quite cope with the massive Irish dominance at the set pieces, but they will see more joy around the park and in open play where Parisse and Dus wreak havoc with ball in hand. This advantage at the breakdown gives Wasps quality ball for their backline to score tries. It would be a different prospect for Irish if Cooper had started has he could've sparked some magic but the Wasps will take this one.
Waikato Chiefs v Bath Rugby
Default win.
Ulster Rugby 23 - 16 Sale Sharks
Unfortunately for Sale I can see the Ulster boys getting the upper hand up front, with Sheridan lacking form and Stevens not in the best form recently. The sheer pshycality of the Ulster oack will bully Sale depsite the efforts of Crane and Burger, although Kubs and Mulipola could've put up a better fight if they had started. With the arm chair ride that the Ulster HBs recieve it allows Jackson time to dictate his backs. Although Sale are stronger in the backs, the limited amount of ball their backs recieve hurts them in this game.
Exeter Chiefs 21 - 17 Saracens
Two very even packs in terms of ability; however in regards to form I would have to give it Exe just. As they have players which are in a rich vein of form. The controlling halfbacks of Exe will dictate play and put their dangerous centres and backthree into space. However the youthful exuberance of the Sarries backline lead by Smith aren't easily pushed over and fight back late on. But the Chiefs should win this one.
Harlequins 27 -20 Worcester Warriors
The warriors have good players in their pack, and manage to compete but the overall form of the Quins pack is a determining factor to this game, as they get joy in all aspects of their play. I like the balance of the Warriors backrow however going backwards I think it would struggle. The dangerous backline of the Warriors will also struggle despite the form of Genia recently. The dominance of Quins allows Burgess and Evans to marshal their potent backline into telling positions and give North the opportunity to grab a brace on his debut.
A real good up front here, but the slightly better form in the Glaws front five edges it, the backrow is another good contest but the serious quality from the Saints will win that battle. Can see a good game out back with two different styles of play on show. In overall ability Glos steal it, but the quality in particular spots for Saints manages to keep them in touch and their good bench nicks it at the death.
Leicester Tigers 30 -28 Leinster Rugby
A very even game here IMO. Leinster aren't no slouches but the Tigers will push them all the way. A cheeky tight battle will be edged by Leinster, their front row has been massive in the past in comparison to the Tiggers. In the backrow it is pretty much even, but the battles between the packs will be even with Tigers being more dominant in the tight than the loose. Leinster have the form HB's but you can't deny the class of the tigers pairing and what a battle there in midfield. This is another even fight as Manu and JOC haven't been setting the world alight recently whereas BOD has been good since his return but lacks match fitness. For me the difference in this one is the ability of the Tigers back three to make something out of nothing, whereas the Leinster backthree are solid there is a slight lack of pace against Wade and Benjamin. The final knell in the coffin will be Leicester’s bench, as it has players that could walk into any other starting line up of any team in the league.
London Wasps 26 - 20 London Irish
Wasps have some big names in their pack but they can't quite cope with the massive Irish dominance at the set pieces, but they will see more joy around the park and in open play where Parisse and Dus wreak havoc with ball in hand. This advantage at the breakdown gives Wasps quality ball for their backline to score tries. It would be a different prospect for Irish if Cooper had started has he could've sparked some magic but the Wasps will take this one.
Waikato Chiefs v Bath Rugby
Default win.
Ulster Rugby 23 - 16 Sale Sharks
Unfortunately for Sale I can see the Ulster boys getting the upper hand up front, with Sheridan lacking form and Stevens not in the best form recently. The sheer pshycality of the Ulster oack will bully Sale depsite the efforts of Crane and Burger, although Kubs and Mulipola could've put up a better fight if they had started. With the arm chair ride that the Ulster HBs recieve it allows Jackson time to dictate his backs. Although Sale are stronger in the backs, the limited amount of ball their backs recieve hurts them in this game.
Exeter Chiefs 21 - 17 Saracens
Two very even packs in terms of ability; however in regards to form I would have to give it Exe just. As they have players which are in a rich vein of form. The controlling halfbacks of Exe will dictate play and put their dangerous centres and backthree into space. However the youthful exuberance of the Sarries backline lead by Smith aren't easily pushed over and fight back late on. But the Chiefs should win this one.
Harlequins 27 -20 Worcester Warriors
The warriors have good players in their pack, and manage to compete but the overall form of the Quins pack is a determining factor to this game, as they get joy in all aspects of their play. I like the balance of the Warriors backrow however going backwards I think it would struggle. The dangerous backline of the Warriors will also struggle despite the form of Genia recently. The dominance of Quins allows Burgess and Evans to marshal their potent backline into telling positions and give North the opportunity to grab a brace on his debut.
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Are we needing to do full 3+ plus predictions to get the £1m? Struggling for time
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Saints 22 - 16 Glos
Tigers 17 - 16 Leinster
Wasps 20 - 18 Irish
Ulster 19 - 16 Sale
Exeter 15 - 14 Saracens
Quins 17 - 15 Worcs
Falcons 19 - 24 Stormers
Bloody hell, some of you guys need to chill out with the tactics! It's like Kane and Abel
Tigers 17 - 16 Leinster
Wasps 20 - 18 Irish
Ulster 19 - 16 Sale
Exeter 15 - 14 Saracens
Quins 17 - 15 Worcs
Falcons 19 - 24 Stormers
Bloody hell, some of you guys need to chill out with the tactics! It's like Kane and Abel
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Saints 28 Glaws 25
Tigers 27 Leinster 26
Wasps 25 Irish 20
Exeter 30 Sarries 26
Quins 26 Worcester 21
Falcons 22 Stormers 25
Tigers 27 Leinster 26
Wasps 25 Irish 20
Exeter 30 Sarries 26
Quins 26 Worcester 21
Falcons 22 Stormers 25
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Saints 28 - 23 Gloucester
Tigers 14 - 12 Leinster
Ulster 15 - 14 Sale
Chiefs 19 - 17 Saracens
Quins 25 - 20 Warriors
Falcons 12 - 23 stormers
Tigers 14 - 12 Leinster
Ulster 15 - 14 Sale
Chiefs 19 - 17 Saracens
Quins 25 - 20 Warriors
Falcons 12 - 23 stormers
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I'll get results done when on laptop
It'll be the new scoring system of 0.5 for a win
It'll be the new scoring system of 0.5 for a win
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I can knock them up now if you want mate
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Results:
Northampton Saints 29-22 Gloucester Rugby
Leicester Tigers 31-25 Leinster Rugby
London Wasps 27-20 London Irish
Waikato Chiefs 30-0 Bath Rugby
Ulster Rugby 25-20 Sale Sharks
Exeter Chiefs 28-20 Saracens
Harlequins 32-24 Worcester Warriors
Newcastle Falcons 20-27 Stormers
Northampton Saints 29-22 Gloucester Rugby
Leicester Tigers 31-25 Leinster Rugby
London Wasps 27-20 London Irish
Waikato Chiefs 30-0 Bath Rugby
Ulster Rugby 25-20 Sale Sharks
Exeter Chiefs 28-20 Saracens
Harlequins 32-24 Worcester Warriors
Newcastle Falcons 20-27 Stormers
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Thanks SJE, it's killing me on my phone
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Is it just a plate and cup semi now then? I could random.org them or if someone's around at 4.45 I could number the 2 groups and someone picks the semi draw at same time?
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Its all done here mate
https://www.606v2.com/t30104-summer-cup
We are on 7s action with Bathie this week
https://www.606v2.com/t30104-summer-cup
We are on 7s action with Bathie this week
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Ah ok fair enough!! Didn;t realise it was pools!!
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Bonus:
SJE, CJ, Pooly, Prop, ITFL, Flux, Bathite, Ollie, Pull
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