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Post by Duty281 Sat 16 Jun 2012, 8:46 pm

First topic message reminder :

Portugal v Netherlands (19:45, ITV 1)
Denmark v Germany (19:45, ITV 4)

Current Group Standings:

Germany - 6
Portugal - 3
Denmark - 3
Holland - 0


If points are level, sorting criteria is thus:

Equality of points after the group matches
8.07 If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the
following criteria are applied, in the order given; to determine the rankings:
a) higher number of points obtained in the matches among the teams in question;
b) superior goal difference in the matches among the teams in question (if MORE
than two teams finish equal on points);
c) higher number of goals scored in the matches among the teams in question (if
MORE than two teams finish equal on points);
d) superior goal difference in all the group matches;
e) higher number of goals scored in all the group matches;
f) position in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking system (see Annex I,
paragraph 1.2.2);
g) fair play conduct of the teams (final tournament);
h) drawing of lots.


And this is what each team needs to do:

Germany (v Denmark)
Win - Secures qualification and top spot.
Draw - Secures qualification and top spot.
Lose - Through with a 3-2 defeat, or a higher-scoring one-goal loss. Otherwise, out if Portugal beat Netherlands, but through if the Portuguese do not claim three points.

Portugal (v Netherlands)
Win - Secures qualification unless Denmark beat Germany 3-2, or by a higher-scoring one-goal margin.
Draw - Secures qualification if Denmark do not beat Germany.
Lose - A one-goal defeat would still see them through if Germany beat Denmark, but any more and they are out.

Denmark (v Germany)
Win - Secures qualification.
Draw - Will only be enough if Netherlands beat Portugal.
Lose - Out.

Netherlands (v Portugal)
Win - Secures qualification if by more than one goal and Germany beat Denmark.
Draw - Out.
Lose - Out.


Final day of Group B. Can Portugal make the final step against Holland? Can the Danes shock Germany? Can Holland conjure up a great escape? Or will Germany capitulate completely? All will be revealed on Sunday night, enjoy!

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 8:41 pm

lol thomond so a stormer is quantifiable by being involved with 2 goals

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 8:45 pm

ueaf need fixing- how the heck can you have a group with 4 teams in the top 10 of the world in a regional cup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by Thomond Sun 17 Jun 2012, 8:47 pm

mystiroakey wrote:lol thomond so a stormer is quantifiable by being involved with 2 goals

Depends what position really. I would say Ronaldo is playing well but is wasteful, even if he doesn't grab one but causes problems and Portugal win, it's a stormer.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 8:51 pm

woooooooha......

i cant wait for tuesday.

westy winning tonight will take the edge of it mind!

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Post by Thomond Sun 17 Jun 2012, 8:58 pm

Someone on the rugby thread saying Dagg shouldn't have been binned yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqJ-KxVMRPc&list=UULDuHINtL5GN1PMroNv-hxQ&index=1&feature=plcp 1:37:26 I don't see how it isn't. Lead with the shoulder.



On the soccer, Portugal look capable of grabbing another one. Denmark should hold firm.

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Post by Leff Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:14 pm

I can't believe Germany is helping Portugal qualify. steam

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Post by Hibbz Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:15 pm

SSSTTTTTOOOORRRRMMMMEEEERRRRR

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:15 pm

2 goals = stormer Euro 2012: Day 10 Thread - Page 2 732107

add the beautifull pass to nani and everything else = stormer+1

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Post by JamesLincs Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:16 pm

devestating!

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Post by Thomond Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:16 pm

German still have harsh feeling about getting moved out of Holland I guess.

2-1 Ronaldo. He had plenty of time, took it very well. I think he might now qualify for a stormer performance Wink

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Post by Leff Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:16 pm

What an easy second goal for Ronaldo! Complete breakdown of Dutch defence. They are not helping their cause.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:16 pm

hibbz Euro 2012: Day 10 Thread - Page 2 732107

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Post by Duty281 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:16 pm

Goodnight Holland. If Denmark can score again, Germany would be out! Go on Denmark, make my day!

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:16 pm

come on denmark

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Post by Thomond Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:19 pm

Pass made it, much like his first. Ronaldo has stood up tonight when questions have been asked so fair play.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:22 pm

Germany score again, that's probably sealed it for them and Portugal.

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Post by Leff Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:23 pm

The Dutch need at least 3 goals in about 13 minutes and hope Germany will score another goal there. Not going to happen for Holland.

Portugal is through. The only question is if Denmark scores another goal and knocks out Germany.

Tragedy for Euro to lose Russia, Holland, and who knows Germany.

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Post by Leff Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:24 pm

Heavens, Germany came through. Relief there. Whistle

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Post by GSC Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:24 pm

Stuck a quid on Ronaldo to score next, got a fiver out of it, not bad.
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Post by mystiroakey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:25 pm

tragedy!!!!!

holland will have lost 3 games pal!

russia got beat fair and square

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Post by Duty281 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:25 pm

Holland the flops of the tournament.

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Post by Guest Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:28 pm

I wonder if that German Bender is a friend of Kuntz?

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Post by GSC Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:28 pm

They never looked solid defensively this tournament, and Robben, RVP and Sneijder have been awful.
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Post by Hibbz Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:28 pm

mystiroakey wrote:come on denmark

Not the first time you've been blown out by a Bender eh Mysti?

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Post by GSC Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:29 pm

Sums up Van persie's tournament. Arsenal haven't done any harm by not having his contract done.
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Post by mystiroakey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:31 pm

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Post by Duty281 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:31 pm

Hibbz wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:come on denmark

Not the first time you've been blown out by a Bender eh Mysti?

You must be very proud of your adopted team Hibbz, you're probably belting out the German anthem as we speak.

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Post by Leff Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:31 pm

van Persie, flop of the tournament so far.

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Post by Crimey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:32 pm

mystiroakey wrote:ueaf need fixing- how the heck can you have a group with 4 teams in the top 10 of the world in a regional cup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's because the two host nations are both top seeds when really they should be bottom seeds.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:34 pm

Two quarter finals almost confirmed then:

Czech Republic v Portugal (could be good)
Germany v Greece (a one-sided pounding)

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Post by Hibbz Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:34 pm

Duty281 wrote:
Hibbz wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:come on denmark

Not the first time you've been blown out by a Bender eh Mysti?

You must be very proud of your adopted team Hibbz, you're probably belting out the German anthem as we speak.

We've had the pride/proud debate old bean. Besides it's been all about Portugal tonight, Germany result was never in doubt.

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Post by Leff Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:35 pm

No dinner or dessert for me tonight. My wife is Dutch. Crying or Very sad

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Post by Crimey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:37 pm

Netherlands are out losing every game. They had to win tonight and failed to even get a draw, which is embarrassing for a team of their quality.

They have fallen far from being runners up at the World Cup.

Van Marwijk to be sacked?

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Post by Thomond Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:39 pm

I think he has to be!

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:40 pm

if he hasnt left/been sacked before this time tommorow- i will send leff a dessert via royal mail

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Post by GSC Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:42 pm

I dunno, not sure he could've done anything else. His best players just didn't get on the plane to Poland.
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Post by Duty281 Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:44 pm

If Croatia shock the World tomorrow and beat Spain (I think they will), coming runner-up in Group D would be better as your route to the final is Croatia then Czech/Portugal then final. Much easier than Italy then Germany then final which is what happens if you win the group.


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Post by GSC Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:44 pm

I mean under his leadership they made a WC final and stormed qualifying.

RVP, Sneidjer and Robben have been awful, not sure what the manager can do when his best 3 attackers just dont perform.
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Post by mystiroakey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:45 pm

GSC holland are like england but 10 times worse(in reagrds to reactionary press and pressure)

It is also very much part of the managers job to make sure his players take there game with them. He picked players that are fighting each other- he is gone! id put money on it

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Post by GSC Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:47 pm

I suppose he was supposed to drop the likes of RVP, Robben and Sneijder pre tournament?

Not sure hes the man to take the fall for some world class players being very ordinary.
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Post by mystiroakey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:48 pm

GSC i think you have missed the point

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:51 pm

Ok.

Imagine this was an england team full of stars, and all we heard was selection issues and we lost 3 games in qualy.

what would happen to the manager?

Holland are as i have said before ,even worse than england when it comes to pressure and press..

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:51 pm

Dutch are a disgrace.

They didnt want to play after half an hour was up.
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Post by mystiroakey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:52 pm

Josh they gave up in the first game as well on 60 mins. Its unbelivable really.

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Post by Leff Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:54 pm

Ballack on ESPN saying Dutch defence was awful in giving so much room for Ronaldo and midfielders passing to him.

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Post by GSC Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:54 pm

Oh hes probably gone, I accept that.

I just don't agree with it
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Post by Leff Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:57 pm

Are we getting Rooney for the Ukraine match on Tue?

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 9:59 pm

rooney for deffo is gonna start

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sun 17 Jun 2012, 10:10 pm

The players always look too much to play it to Rooney when he plays, thats why I hope he is a sub. The midfield are not creative enough to pass it to someone else and Rooney gets all the pressure. Might aswell stick with the same players for Ukraine.
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Post by mystiroakey Sun 17 Jun 2012, 10:18 pm

Well if we play rooney, welbeck and young then i think they will be ok in an advanced position and rooney wont become a ronaldo(first two games) or a ibraham..

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