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Everyone in Premier League (who votes on Championship) send their results to:
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Premier League
Real Ale Sociedad - TwisT The London Silly Nannies - SodhatAC ALittleSilhouetteoOfAMan (AC ALSOAM) - MarkyViva City - VivaPaulScholesCunning Canaries FC - ollyrules
AFC Swamp Donkeys - fernando Borussia Munchingballsack - Sainty
FC United of Bournemouth Town and Boscombe City Wanderers Athletic Football Club - cherriesfan
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Championship
Athletico Bilbao Baggins FC - HeroJacamos United - TSCReal NADrid© - nadeem2099Sporting Sideburns FC - Gav Treble's Revenge - onlytreblewinners
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606V2 EURODivision
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Don't forget to take part in the Euro 2012 sweepstake! If you want to take part then please take £1m off your team budget and let the runners know you are taken part by Monday 11th. Prize money yet to be confirmed. Draw is as follows, which will be updated when managers confirm they are taking part:
5 – Marky - Denmark (Taking Part)
6 – Twist - Germany (Taking Part)
8 – Sodhat - Portugal (Taking Part)
1 – Viva – Czech Republic (Taking Part)
16 – Sainty - Ukraine
10 – Cherrries - Italy (Taking Part)
7 – Olly - Netherlands (Taking Part)
2 – Nando - Greece (Taking Part)
9 – Gav - Croatia
15 – Hero - Sweden (Taking Part)
3 – Tooze - Poland (Taking Part)
12 – Russ - Spain (Taking Part)
11 – TSC/Afro – Rep of Ireland (Taking Part)
4 – Nadz - Russia (Taking Part)
14 – Trebs - France (Taking Part)
13 – Bull - England (Taking Part)
6 – Twist - Germany (Taking Part)
8 – Sodhat - Portugal (Taking Part)
1 – Viva – Czech Republic (Taking Part)
16 – Sainty - Ukraine
10 – Cherrries - Italy (Taking Part)
7 – Olly - Netherlands (Taking Part)
2 – Nando - Greece (Taking Part)
9 – Gav - Croatia
15 – Hero - Sweden (Taking Part)
3 – Tooze - Poland (Taking Part)
12 – Russ - Spain (Taking Part)
11 – TSC/Afro – Rep of Ireland (Taking Part)
4 – Nadz - Russia (Taking Part)
14 – Trebs - France (Taking Part)
13 – Bull - England (Taking Part)
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AFC Swamp Donkeys - fernando Borussia Munchingballsack - Sainty
FC United of Bournemouth Town and Boscombe City Wanderers Athletic Football Club - cherriesfan
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Re: The 606v2 Fantastic Fantasy Football Homepage page XVIII
So was the original offer from Hero to me. I'm just saying they're pretty identical in terms of being negotiated privately, yet ours was criticised. I actually have no problem with it, but it's double standards.
On a side note, just done;
Robert Huth for Daniel Van Buyten and £2.2M. By releasing DVB and signing Huth. I like Van Buyten but he is too slow these days and a prime target in these games. As an example, he was outpaced by Yakubu according to someone in my Cup game last week! Yakubu!
On a side note, just done;
Robert Huth for Daniel Van Buyten and £2.2M. By releasing DVB and signing Huth. I like Van Buyten but he is too slow these days and a prime target in these games. As an example, he was outpaced by Yakubu according to someone in my Cup game last week! Yakubu!
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Hero wrote:VivaPaulScholes wrote:Hero wrote:VivaPaulScholes wrote:Did you have a Radio in your days? Were TV's black and white?
You're not far off.
As a kid there were 3 channels on the TV, BBC 1 & 2 and ITV, when I was 6 then C4 came out though all that had for kids was Willo the Wisp and Pob.
Video recorders were a new fangled thing, most were top loaders and weighed about the same as a small family car. Video shops used to blacklist you if you returned the videos back unwinded.
#ToughTimes
It was, no Sky+, no internet etc. If you wanted to find something out then you'd go to a place called a library that had things called books. Though you could only read the book for 3 weeks before you then had to return it or if not they would charge you 4p per day for every day you failed to return it.
Could you not just put it onto your Kindle?
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Hero wrote:VivaPaulScholes wrote:Hero wrote:VivaPaulScholes wrote:Did you have a Radio in your days? Were TV's black and white?
You're not far off.
As a kid there were 3 channels on the TV, BBC 1 & 2 and ITV, when I was 6 then C4 came out though all that had for kids was Willo the Wisp and Pob.
Video recorders were a new fangled thing, most were top loaders and weighed about the same as a small family car. Video shops used to blacklist you if you returned the videos back unwinded.
#ToughTimes
It was, no Sky+, no internet etc. If you wanted to find something out then you'd go to a place called a library that had things called books. Though you could only read the book for 3 weeks before you then had to return it or if not they would charge you 4p per day for every day you failed to return it.
If you wanted to communicate with people, you had to use a telephone. There was no Twitter or Facebook.
And the phone had to be plugged into a wall, and you had to sit next to it. It was tough times.
I remember my prized possessions when I was about 6 (1984) was Superman and Star Wars on Betamax
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And to actually phone anyone took ages as you had a phone where it wasn't touchpad but a stupid dial thing so it took ages if they had a phone number that had a 9 or a 0 in it.
Cameras were the best, take a load of photos, don't know what they'll look like and have to take them to Boots to have them developed before someone sniggers at them when they hand them back over to you.
Cameras were the best, take a load of photos, don't know what they'll look like and have to take them to Boots to have them developed before someone sniggers at them when they hand them back over to you.
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BigFellasAfro wrote:Premier League
1 Robin van Persie 30 Arsenal
2 Wayne Rooney 27 Manchester United
3 Sergio Agüero 23 Manchester City
4 Clint Dempsey 17 Fulham
4 Yakubu Aiyegbeni 17 Blackburn Rovers
4 Emmanuel Adebayor 17 Tottenham Hotspur
7 Demba Ba 16 Newcastle United
8 Grant Holt 15 Norwich City
9 Edin Dzeko 14 Manchester City
10 Mario Balotelli 13 Manchester City
10 Papiss Cissé 13 Newcastle United
Oh Super Grant
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Hero wrote:VivaPaulScholes wrote:Hero wrote:VivaPaulScholes wrote:Did you have a Radio in your days? Were TV's black and white?
You're not far off.
As a kid there were 3 channels on the TV, BBC 1 & 2 and ITV, when I was 6 then C4 came out though all that had for kids was Willo the Wisp and Pob.
Video recorders were a new fangled thing, most were top loaders and weighed about the same as a small family car. Video shops used to blacklist you if you returned the videos back unwinded.
#ToughTimes
It was, no Sky+, no internet etc. If you wanted to find something out then you'd go to a place called a library that had things called books. Though you could only read the book for 3 weeks before you then had to return it or if not they would charge you 4p per day for every day you failed to return it.
I didn't have it easy too, it's the Olly, Bull, Cherrys, CF era that had everything.
I've still got my Library card, I rememeber when we had the manuel TV with no remote, channel 1-4, no mobiles had to take the risk walking to my mates to see if he was home.
Re: The 606v2 Fantastic Fantasy Football Homepage page XVIII
Marky wrote:So was the original offer from Hero to me. I'm just saying they're pretty identical in terms of being negotiated privately, yet ours was criticised. I actually have no problem with it, but it's double standards.
On a side note, just done;
Robert Huth for Daniel Van Buyten and £2.2M. By releasing DVB and signing Huth. I like Van Buyten but he is too slow these days and a prime target in these games. As an example, he was outpaced by Yakubu according to someone in my Cup game last week! Yakubu!
other were in the chat box lasy night
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cherriesfan wrote:Marky wrote:So was the original offer from Hero to me. I'm just saying they're pretty identical in terms of being negotiated privately, yet ours was criticised. I actually have no problem with it, but it's double standards.
On a side note, just done;
Robert Huth for Daniel Van Buyten and £2.2M. By releasing DVB and signing Huth. I like Van Buyten but he is too slow these days and a prime target in these games. As an example, he was outpaced by Yakubu according to someone in my Cup game last week! Yakubu!
other were in the chat box lasy night
But I wasn't, so as far as i'm concerned it was done privately.
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VivaPaulScholes wrote:Hero wrote:VivaPaulScholes wrote:Hero wrote:VivaPaulScholes wrote:Did you have a Radio in your days? Were TV's black and white?
You're not far off.
As a kid there were 3 channels on the TV, BBC 1 & 2 and ITV, when I was 6 then C4 came out though all that had for kids was Willo the Wisp and Pob.
Video recorders were a new fangled thing, most were top loaders and weighed about the same as a small family car. Video shops used to blacklist you if you returned the videos back unwinded.
#ToughTimes
It was, no Sky+, no internet etc. If you wanted to find something out then you'd go to a place called a library that had things called books. Though you could only read the book for 3 weeks before you then had to return it or if not they would charge you 4p per day for every day you failed to return it.
I didn't have it easy too, it's the Olly, Bull, Cherrys, CF era that had everything.
I've still got my Library card, I rememeber when we had the manuel TV with no remote, channel 1-4, no mobiles had to take the risk walking to my mates to see if he was home.
I don't have it easy. Do you know how slow the internet connection is in Norfolk
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Is it true that BT wouldn't allow the Friends & Family feature in Norfolk because everyone would then feature on it.
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Hero wrote:Is it true that BT wouldn't allow the Friends & Family feature in Norfolk because everyone would then feature on it.
Brilliant
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I have a library card and still use it today... does that make me old?
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BigFellasAfro wrote:Premier League
1 Robin van Persie 30 Arsenal
2 Wayne Rooney 27 Manchester United
3 Sergio Agüero 23 Manchester City
4 Clint Dempsey 17 Fulham
4 Yakubu Aiyegbeni 17 Blackburn Rovers
4 Emmanuel Adebayor 17 Tottenham Hotspur
7 Demba Ba 16 Newcastle United
8 Grant Holt 15 Norwich City
9 Edin Dzeko 14 Manchester City
10 Mario Balotelli 13 Manchester City
10 Papiss Cissé 13 Newcastle United
Looking at this does make you realise what great seasons Dempsey, Holt and Yakubu had. All scoring goals in teams that are mid table or relegation sides, with a lot less chances I should imagine
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Hero wrote:Is it true that BT wouldn't allow the Friends & Family feature in Norfolk because everyone would then feature on it.
In Norwich it was just called Family as everyone is related
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Olly wrote:VivaPaulScholes wrote:Hero wrote:VivaPaulScholes wrote:Hero wrote:VivaPaulScholes wrote:Did you have a Radio in your days? Were TV's black and white?
You're not far off.
As a kid there were 3 channels on the TV, BBC 1 & 2 and ITV, when I was 6 then C4 came out though all that had for kids was Willo the Wisp and Pob.
Video recorders were a new fangled thing, most were top loaders and weighed about the same as a small family car. Video shops used to blacklist you if you returned the videos back unwinded.
#ToughTimes
It was, no Sky+, no internet etc. If you wanted to find something out then you'd go to a place called a library that had things called books. Though you could only read the book for 3 weeks before you then had to return it or if not they would charge you 4p per day for every day you failed to return it.
I didn't have it easy too, it's the Olly, Bull, Cherrys, CF era that had everything.
I've still got my Library card, I rememeber when we had the manuel TV with no remote, channel 1-4, no mobiles had to take the risk walking to my mates to see if he was home.
I don't have it easy. Do you know how slow the internet connection is in Norfolk
Thats because you lot have one extra finger which means you can type faster then the rest of us which then means you overload the Internet system with your extra fast typing and they can't cope with it which makes the Internet in 5 finger land extra slow.
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Do they sell 6 fingered gloves in Norfolk?
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VivaPaulScholes wrote:Olly wrote:VivaPaulScholes wrote:Hero wrote:VivaPaulScholes wrote:Hero wrote:VivaPaulScholes wrote:Did you have a Radio in your days? Were TV's black and white?
You're not far off.
As a kid there were 3 channels on the TV, BBC 1 & 2 and ITV, when I was 6 then C4 came out though all that had for kids was Willo the Wisp and Pob.
Video recorders were a new fangled thing, most were top loaders and weighed about the same as a small family car. Video shops used to blacklist you if you returned the videos back unwinded.
#ToughTimes
It was, no Sky+, no internet etc. If you wanted to find something out then you'd go to a place called a library that had things called books. Though you could only read the book for 3 weeks before you then had to return it or if not they would charge you 4p per day for every day you failed to return it.
I didn't have it easy too, it's the Olly, Bull, Cherrys, CF era that had everything.
I've still got my Library card, I rememeber when we had the manuel TV with no remote, channel 1-4, no mobiles had to take the risk walking to my mates to see if he was home.
I don't have it easy. Do you know how slow the internet connection is in Norfolk
Thats because you lot have one extra finger which means you can type faster then the rest of us which then means you overload the Internet system with your extra fast typing and they can't cope with it which makes the Internet in 5 finger land extra slow.
I'm surprised you can type at all with your jacamo hands. Unless you have a custom super sized keyboard with giant buttons.
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That's why Viva was going on about the Samsung Note, to him that's a normal sized phone.
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Czech Republic 9/2 at a lot of bookies to beat the overrated Portugal tonight!
Ronaldo off night and it's definitely on!
Ronaldo off night and it's definitely on!
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Right I'm off for a bit. Toodles
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Marky
Just put a tenner on Portugal to win...
Just put a tenner on Portugal to win...
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onlytreblewinners wrote:Marky
Just put a tenner on Portugal to win...
I hope they do because I'll get my money back when they get to the semis. Couple for Ronaldo would help too, get him top of the scorers chart.
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Nah, I've got Gomez at top scorer, but certainly wouldn't complain if Ronaldo got the winner tonight, Hills were doing a special of Ronaldo to score anytime & Portugal to win at 2/1.
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VivaFact
On average, people spend 80 percent of thier time gossping.
On average, people spend 80 percent of thier time gossping.
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But 9/2 is big considering the Czechs won Group A.
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Lavezzi to PSG is almost a done deal according to TalkSport
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does this forum have a swear filter
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cherries you are a Kumquat
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five knuckle shuffle Poopie Flip
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i like to Flip peole caus eim a hardcore Flip who rips the Poopie out of dumb Flip like you
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haha this is fun
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five knuckle shuffle Flip hehehe Poopie hehehe Poopie special Flip
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haha i beat the swear filter
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Into my 6th season on FIFA. Michael Owen was playing for Man City..........
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Please do not attempt to beat the swear filter
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i now hold all the cards, the swear filter is my Female dog
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TSC wrote:Into my 6th season on FIFA. Michael Owen was playing for Man City..........
are you playing all the games
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Did you know that wanking does not register on the swear filter?
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I'm Norwich in season three of FIFA. Both Manchester clubs have scary looking teams.
Just written up predictions, there's some really difficult games in there.
Just written up predictions, there's some really difficult games in there.
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cherriesfan wrote:TSC wrote:Into my 6th season on FIFA. Michael Owen was playing for Man City..........
are you playing all the games
Yes.
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nor goes dicksodhat wrote:Did you know that wanking does not register on the swear filter?
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how do you manage it?TSC wrote:cherriesfan wrote:TSC wrote:Into my 6th season on FIFA. Michael Owen was playing for Man City..........
are you playing all the games
Yes.
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cherriesfan wrote:nor goes dicksodhat wrote:Did you know that wanking does not register on the swear filter?
Well that is a name. We wouldn't be able to discuss Dick Advocaat if it was blocked. And we love to talk about Dick.
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The swear filter isn't there for you to test it and see what words go through.
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cherriesfan wrote:how do you manage it?TSC wrote:cherriesfan wrote:TSC wrote:Into my 6th season on FIFA. Michael Owen was playing for Man City..........
are you playing all the games
Yes.
I have a ridiculous amount of free time. Not won the CL yet, got to the semi's to be beaten by Bayern. Won the PL 3 times though.
(Go on, make "semi" jokes children )
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sodhat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-kiZwF_qJo
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