Now that the dust has settled
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Now that the dust has settled
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Right I think I speak for most of us here.
It was a brave effort from all teams at the weekend against the BIG three SH teams but once again it has ended in three defeats. OK these guys did have home advantage and yes they are ranked higher than all of us in the IRB rankings (not that they are relevant! For the time being anyway ) but I'm beginning to get fed up with the NH teams failing to beat these guys.
Wales should have won, Ireland were so close to pulling it off and England still make stupid mistakes that cost them time and time again so it's hard to say if we are improving or not.
So I ask the 606vs public to voice their opinions on what we need to do to beat these guys.
IMO I don't think we believe in ourselves enough, the SH guys always seem to have a slight swagger about them.
Right I think I speak for most of us here.
It was a brave effort from all teams at the weekend against the BIG three SH teams but once again it has ended in three defeats. OK these guys did have home advantage and yes they are ranked higher than all of us in the IRB rankings (not that they are relevant! For the time being anyway ) but I'm beginning to get fed up with the NH teams failing to beat these guys.
Wales should have won, Ireland were so close to pulling it off and England still make stupid mistakes that cost them time and time again so it's hard to say if we are improving or not.
So I ask the 606vs public to voice their opinions on what we need to do to beat these guys.
IMO I don't think we believe in ourselves enough, the SH guys always seem to have a slight swagger about them.
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Re: Now that the dust has settled
anotherworldofpain wrote:
Number of posts by Welsh posters pointing out Wales overtake England despite both lost : 1,798,234,212
Glad to see your English improving...
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Barney McGrew did it wrote:anotherworldofpain wrote:viewtothegym wrote:1(1) NEW ZEALAND 91.43
2(2) AUSTRALIA 86.77
3(3) SOUTH AFRICA 85.47
4(5) WALES 82.54
5(4) ENGLAND 82.49
6(7) ARGENTINA 81.22
7(6) FRANCE 81.06
8(8) IRELAND 79.85
9(9) SAMOA 77.64
10(11) SCOTLAND 76.56
11(10) TONGA 76.19
Number of posts by Welsh posters pointing out Wales overtake England despite both lost : 1,798,234,212
Don't be too hard on him, I know Eng fans would be celebrating a 0.05 lead.
He is rather limited, more to be pittied than scolded really...
England on the end of a cricket score? Yeah, just like last week, when they were down 15 points at half time, got to wthin 4 by sheer dog and lost by 9 (a not disimilar margin to that which Wales lost by the week before, against an Oz team half knackered having had to slug it out in the mud with Scotland). The same Oz team that this week were down to 14 men for 10 minutes and had a crocked kicker by the way.
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Smirnoffpriest wrote:anotherworldofpain wrote:
Number of posts by Welsh posters pointing out Wales overtake England despite both lost : 1,798,234,212
Glad to see your English improving...
And it's also a big mystery considering he's listening to 606ers whilst doing it! Many of us don't even speak kindergarten grade English!
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World Of Pain, is ok, doing his best in (I guess) not his cradle langauge. My written French is poor.
But general spelling by UK users on 606 can be particularly atrocious, maybe due to 'phonetic' learning ?
[Don't even mention the grammar].
For example:
There, their.
Too, to, two.
Ok, so they sound the same. But please look them up & pick the correct one for the context.
But general spelling by UK users on 606 can be particularly atrocious, maybe due to 'phonetic' learning ?
[Don't even mention the grammar].
For example:
There, their.
Too, to, two.
Ok, so they sound the same. But please look them up & pick the correct one for the context.
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Mie speling iis aalweis eksemplirie.
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Tanks fer dat update on the grammer, tree.
I think the spelling issue is absolutely coming not from a lack of knowledge but from too much. When you intimately know a language and type it quickly and know all the slang and the little turns of phrase........well, you can trip yourself up a lot with fingers and unconscious thoughts. Your mind wants the idea out quickly not the semantics of it. Fluent speakers/writers don't care too much for grammar because they know they can be understood. Learners try to be accurate because they fear they never will be.
I think the spelling issue is absolutely coming not from a lack of knowledge but from too much. When you intimately know a language and type it quickly and know all the slang and the little turns of phrase........well, you can trip yourself up a lot with fingers and unconscious thoughts. Your mind wants the idea out quickly not the semantics of it. Fluent speakers/writers don't care too much for grammar because they know they can be understood. Learners try to be accurate because they fear they never will be.
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biltongbek wrote:Mie speling iis aalweis eksemplirie.
That's the first time I'v ever heard you use Africaans Biltong
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SecretFly wrote:biltongbek wrote:Mie speling iis aalweis eksemplirie.
That's the first time I'v ever heard you use Africaans Biltong
you noticed?
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Secret,
thanks, perfectly understand your beautifully written point.
I admit to being a little OCD on spelling, so may post a few more examples from time to time. (typos are different, as I am aslo a 'carp' typist)
thanks, perfectly understand your beautifully written point.
I admit to being a little OCD on spelling, so may post a few more examples from time to time. (typos are different, as I am aslo a 'carp' typist)
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gregor so my post must have sent you off the charts?
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I just cannot tell with Biltong as he can claim 'Afrikaans' and I could not argue with that, anymore than England can argue with the last two test results.
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Biltong, you are allowed, as a non UK citizen.
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gregortree wrote:Secret,
thanks, perfectly understand your beautifully written point.
I admit to being a little OCD on spelling, so may post a few more examples from time to time. (typos are different, as I am aslo a 'carp' typist)
Oh I know what you're talking about. I'm an habitual "there" "their" and "they're" guy and it does frustrate me when I look over my guff and see those mistakes looming. I know the differences obviously but my mind still wants to make the mistakes. But then again, I do think very quickly and type quickly lest my mind gets impatient, so I'm conscious that my mind flushes out info rather than delivering it But yes, the their/they're/there kinda thing is annoying, even for someone like me who does it!
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Fanks Gregor, I appriciate it, but it iis nou ekskuse because i has bean speeking your tale for a tall time now.
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gregortree wrote:Biltong, you are allowed, as a non UK citizen.
Ha! Ha!! I'm non-UK so I can bees bad at English too!!! Whot a relief!
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"I actually fear that we may get stuffed. I am not sure the boys are strong enough metally to pick themselves up."
I think Iron Mike is metally tough and with the rustiness out of the way now we may have a few more who are also metally tough
I think Iron Mike is metally tough and with the rustiness out of the way now we may have a few more who are also metally tough
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I'm surprised that I can actually understand quite a bit of Africaans...which I'm dead chuffed about
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you don't spell English like that.
It is eeengleeesh
It is eeengleeesh
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RubyGuby wrote:"I actually fear that we may get stuffed. I am not sure the boys are strong enough metally to pick themselves up."
I think Iron Mike is metally tough and with the rustiness out of the way now we may have a few more who are also metally tough
Strictly no armour allowed though, Ruby.
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Biltong, yes, that is the correct phonetic spelling in some London suburbs, most restaurants, plus quite a few London bars.
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I am just teasing you Gregor, I am in fact quite proud of my use of the english language.
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I aslo use them 606 posts as a way to improve me knowledge in english so hope am fairing ok do not hesitate to correct my spleling and gramar erors if any - thanks you.
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ok now stop trying to WUM me.
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whocares wrote:I aslo use them 606 posts as a way to improve me knowledge in english so hope am fairing ok do not hesitate to correct my spleling and gramar erors if any - thanks you.
Now where's gregortree.
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ok I stop know...now
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I didn't realise my one little comment had started a storm of correct grammar comments!
I only meant it off the cuff as AWOP seems similar to a previous poster and his posts seem to very from very poor English to almost perfect colloquial/everyday English (ie a few mistakes but what would be expected from someone being informal)
I only meant it off the cuff as AWOP seems similar to a previous poster and his posts seem to very from very poor English to almost perfect colloquial/everyday English (ie a few mistakes but what would be expected from someone being informal)
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You mean to say he could be ambidextrous? I think I'll let him know that the next time I see him. I'll tell him that if he communicates with the right side of his brain he'll have perfect English...the left side is the continuing pigeon English skit bit.
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SecretFly wrote:You mean to say he could be ambidextrous? I think I'll let him know that the next time I see him. I'll tell him that if he communicates with the right side of his brain he'll have perfect English...the left side is the continuing pigeon English skit bit.
TBH that sounds more schizophrenic than ambidextrous, and that being the case I don't think he'd need you to mention it to him, he may have already noticed!
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Well, yes. 'Ambidextrous' though was more a continuing salute to the confused grammar and lingo discussion than an attempt at a genuine diagnosis of Mr pain I don't think I'd attempt a real diagnosis of pain except to say I think he's a joker.
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ok, so we need a 'spelling sticky', so we can chuck all this merde on there
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gregortree wrote:ok, so we need a 'spelling sticky', so we can chuck all this merde on there
Or we could just get rid of it and just agree that Mr Pain is, to use SecretFlys terminology, a 'Joker'
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viewtothegym wrote:Well Wales have a shot for the win next week thats for sure but selection will be key, but being the best team in the NH grandslam champs and 4th in the world rankings we are the only beacon of hope for the NH.
Ireland have got to know in the back of their minds that the golden opportunity to take the scalp of the AllBlacks has gone, they ain't going to give Ireland an inch this coming test.
England look likely to be on the end of a cricket score this week.
Never change, View
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For once HERSH you are bang on mate!
Wales up by 1, 20 to go Aus down due to a yellow card, on the verge of a famous victory and what does any SH team do in that situation? Go for the jugular! What did Wales do? Try to close the game out, bring on one of their best broken play runners and he's told to boxkick the ball away!!
Wales up by 1, 20 to go Aus down due to a yellow card, on the verge of a famous victory and what does any SH team do in that situation? Go for the jugular! What did Wales do? Try to close the game out, bring on one of their best broken play runners and he's told to boxkick the ball away!!
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"Ireland have got to know in the back of their minds that the golden opportunity to take the scalp of the AllBlacks has gone, they ain't going to give Ireland an inch this coming test." viewtothegym
They didn't give them an inch in the past test - Ireland took it. Now when Wales finally beat Australia - and yep, they might do it next weekend after four recent attempts - then they'll be finally on an equal footing with some of us in that department until next time we all meet our SH firends again in combat.
They didn't give them an inch in the past test - Ireland took it. Now when Wales finally beat Australia - and yep, they might do it next weekend after four recent attempts - then they'll be finally on an equal footing with some of us in that department until next time we all meet our SH firends again in combat.
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Now that Beale has been charged with assault, the ARU has suspended its investigation pending the outcome of criminal proceedings and Beale is available for selection.biltongbek wrote:If Beale is back it wIill make the Ozzies more dangerous.
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I think we learn that dust not settling yet.
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anotherworldofpain wrote:I think we learn that dust not settling yet.
I think your handling of metaphors is quite excellent, pain. Lovely cute wraparound there...and soooo true.
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I think he is Borat
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Maybe he has plans to be the Dictator of the site!
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He's already half way there in that ambition.
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This thread has settled like dust in a sand storm, all over the place.
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I thought he was going more the 5th column route and trying to take the site down from the inside...
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I think it's an attitude problem. Scotland never try in the 6N but save their big games for the ranking points on offer for the SH sides. Wales, Ireland and England try their hearts out in the 6N and have nothing left in the tank for June or November.
Sorry, not used to HERSH posting something that is not provocative so I thought I'd balance out the cosmos.
Sorry, not used to HERSH posting something that is not provocative so I thought I'd balance out the cosmos.
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biltongbek wrote:This thread has settled like dust in a sand storm, all over the place.
Ahh but from Sand the tools to help us see with clarity are made
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The desert has its sand and it has its mirages. pain is a mirage
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Borat
"Kazakhstan is the greatest country in the world / All other countries are run by little girls / Kazakhstan is number-one exporter of potassium / Other Central Asian countries have inferior potassium / Kazakhstan is the greatest country in the world / All other countries is the home of ..."
Not so sure now, Borat makes more sense, and with better spelling than W O Pain. Maybe they are not the same person after all.
"Kazakhstan is the greatest country in the world / All other countries are run by little girls / Kazakhstan is number-one exporter of potassium / Other Central Asian countries have inferior potassium / Kazakhstan is the greatest country in the world / All other countries is the home of ..."
Not so sure now, Borat makes more sense, and with better spelling than W O Pain. Maybe they are not the same person after all.
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I wish it was that simple.SecretFly wrote:The desert has its sand and it has its mirages. pain is a mirage
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biltongbek wrote:I wish it was that simple.SecretFly wrote:The desert has its sand and it has its mirages. pain is a mirage
Oh it is..it is, my precious. Moral of the mirage is that if you're down to your last tongueful of salty sweat and see pain in the distance with his phrase book and his smile.............. well, crawl the other way. It's a trick.
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So while we are being metaphysical, a Big Lebowski quote:
"Smokey, my friend, you are entering a world of pain"
"Smokey, my friend, you are entering a world of pain"
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