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Post by Duty281 Wed 20 Jun 2012, 4:18 pm

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England v Italy (Sunday 24th June, 19:45 KO, BBC 1)

On the back of good defence, England have notched up 2 wins and a draw, confounding the majority of expectations along the way. The unexpected bonus of topping Group D has given them a game against Italy, not Spain, and England have a glorious chance of reaching their first semi-final in 16 years. Italy haven't really started yet and their sole win was against a poor Ireland team but they did manage an impressive draw against the Spanish. The winners will play Germany.......or maybe Greece.

My prediction: England 1-0 Italy

Come on England!

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Post by azania Sun 24 Jun 2012, 8:39 pm

England are playing to their strengths and as a result are murdering football. How many times has Hart simply launched the ball upfield? How many long passes to Welbeck in the hope that he can flick it on to a runner? Why are these over=paid prima donas afraid of simply passing it to a white shirt? Where is their composure on the ball?

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 24 Jun 2012, 8:42 pm

yeah yeah- are you actually wacthing the game

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 24 Jun 2012, 8:42 pm

azania wrote:England are playing to their strengths and as a result are murdering football. How many times has Hart simply launched the ball upfield? How many long passes to Welbeck in the hope that he can flick it on to a runner? Why are these over=paid prima donas afraid of simply passing it to a white shirt? Where is their composure on the ball?

All Italy did for the first 25 mins is hoof it. Are they murdering football too?
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Post by mystiroakey Sun 24 Jun 2012, 8:43 pm

leff what ever italy did second alf off the half- england did first half of the half.

anyway time to start again

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jun 2012, 8:48 pm

Lucky, very lucky.

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Post by azania Sun 24 Jun 2012, 8:48 pm

Olly wrote:
azania wrote:England are playing to their strengths and as a result are murdering football. How many times has Hart simply launched the ball upfield? How many long passes to Welbeck in the hope that he can flick it on to a runner? Why are these over=paid prima donas afraid of simply passing it to a white shirt? Where is their composure on the ball?

All Italy did for the first 25 mins is hoof it. Are they murdering football too?

No they didn't. Pirlo is the best player on the field and he isn't playing holywood balls.

Lucky England. They may do a Chelsea and win by luck.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jun 2012, 8:49 pm

Englands poor passing is letting them down.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jun 2012, 8:52 pm

John Terry saves England again.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jun 2012, 8:52 pm

How much luck are we having?! Makes you wonder...

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jun 2012, 8:54 pm

England can't keep the ball at the moment.

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Post by Crimey Sun 24 Jun 2012, 8:54 pm

As much as I hate it constantly being referenced. This is very much akin to Chelsea's Champions League run. Let's hope it has a similarly happy ending.

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Post by Leff Sun 24 Jun 2012, 8:55 pm

Joe Hart is looking like a boxer taking hard punches. We have seen Italy 3 shots since half time.

We need pace. England looking pretty stretched there. Too many escapes.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jun 2012, 8:56 pm

What's wrong with their football studs, they're sliding all over the place.

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Post by Leff Sun 24 Jun 2012, 8:57 pm

Not even one yellow card yet. A bit surprising.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 24 Jun 2012, 8:58 pm

good we need the change

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Post by Crimey Sun 24 Jun 2012, 8:58 pm

Walcott and Carroll coming on, good decision I think.

Walcott will be able to stretch them, Carroll gives more presence in the box.

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Post by Leff Sun 24 Jun 2012, 8:58 pm

Carroll and Walcott coming in?

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Post by Crimey Sun 24 Jun 2012, 8:59 pm

I'd take off Rooney and Young, but I imagine it'll be Welbeck and Young.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:00 pm

The Italians are in their element, very comfortable on the ball, moving it about - there seems to be very little pressure on them in the midfield.

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Post by Leff Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:01 pm

First time in this game, that signature Balotelli shot, didn't go in.

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Post by GG Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:02 pm

Di Natale needs to come on.

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Post by Crimey Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:02 pm

I think Milner probably had his best game of the tournament for him so far, unlucky to go off.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:04 pm

yeah agreed- and its been gerrards worst

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:04 pm

Young does it again - loses the ball in a promising situation.

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Post by Leff Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:04 pm

GG wrote:Di Natale needs to come on.

Who goes? Balotelli?

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:05 pm

Theo and Carrol causes problems for the Italians.

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Post by Leff Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:06 pm

Some energy there with Carroll. First shot taken by England in a long time.

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Post by Crimey Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:06 pm

The centre is too crowded, but Young and Milner aren't good enough to utilise the wings.

It's too hard for Gerrard to grab the game when Pirlo is dictating it and De Rossi enforcing it with Marchiso and Montolivo adding flair. It's very hard to control the game.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:06 pm

Italian b&sturds fouling and diving.

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Post by Crimey Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:07 pm

I am worried if Di Natale comes on, he's the player who would be able to finish the chances they have been creating.

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Post by GG Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:08 pm

Leff wrote:
GG wrote:Di Natale needs to come on.

Who goes? Balotelli?

Not sure to be honest, but I rate Di Natale very highly. Great finisher.

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Post by Leff Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:08 pm

Pirlo is looking like the conductor of an orchestra.

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:08 pm

Another Italian dive!

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:08 pm

we needed tyo make the change and it has made a difference so all good from my pov

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:12 pm

Players are getting tired now. Joe Hart just hoofs the ball everytime, what chance do you have with keepers like that? Gerrard has been invisible, so has Rooney. They have no patience to keep the ball a bit, only few mins until Italy score.
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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:13 pm

Gerrard - cramp?

The old workhorse might be breaking down. Shame we didn't have Lampard as back-up.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:13 pm

Defenders can't even play the offside rule.
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Post by mystiroakey Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:14 pm

good time out from gerrard there

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:15 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:Players are getting tired now. Joe Hart just hoofs the ball everytime, what chance do you have with keepers like that? Gerrard has been invisible, so has Rooney. They have no patience to keep the ball a bit, only few mins until Italy score.

This does my head in Josiah. Why not roll it out to your full back and keep possession? Fundamental.


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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:16 pm

I had some hope with them after 25 mins on the clock, they have just been siinking into the abyss since then.
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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:16 pm

John Terry by far England's best player.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:16 pm

this has gotta count!! come on england

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Post by Leff Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:18 pm

Diamanti for Cassano. Prep for extra time and pks?

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:20 pm

gonna admit this game is driving me nuts

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:20 pm

Italy are totally dominant. Greece had more going for them vs Germany than this, ughh..
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Post by Leff Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:20 pm

De Rossi leaving too.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:21 pm

BUT.... with Walcott on the pitch you never know, could spark some players into life. This England team are looking like the Wolves team that got hammered every week.
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Post by Leff Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:22 pm

Di Natale not in yet?

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Post by Guest Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:22 pm

Strange game now - Italy totally dominant.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 24 Jun 2012, 9:22 pm

much better lads-- italy get a yellow as well. free kick in a dangerous position

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