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Post by novak143 Fri 22 Jun 2012, 9:58 am

Hi,

The D-Day has come. Wimbledon Draw is only couple of hours away!!

Big question is: Whom does Djokovic draw in his half? The six time Wimbledon Champion or The Great Scot? Who is more preferred and Why?

Being from eastern part of the Globe (viz. India) I am waiting eagerly since today morning for the Wimbledon Draw to be announced. Please update this thread once anyone gets info about it.

BTW, when is the draw scheduled. Any idea?

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Post by Chydremion Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:00 am

Djokovic has a 50% chance to draw Federer. 50% though seems a far bigger chance than I ever thought it was. If I had that same 50% chance on Roulette I would play non-stop.

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Post by Seifer Almasy Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:15 am

I want Fed in nadal's half for once. He has been desperately unlucky keep getting Djok (note, luck.. not conspiracy).

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Post by Chydremion Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:21 am

Seifer Almasy wrote:I want Fed in nadal's half for once. He has been desperately unlucky keep getting Djok (note, luck.. not conspiracy).

Federer is so unlucky lol it's UNBELIEVABLE.

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Post by User 774433 Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:26 am

What?

This is an unbelievable draw for Feds.

tipsarevic followed by djokovic in QF and SF.

He couldn't have got a easier draw.




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Post by Chydremion Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:29 am

It Must Be Love wrote:What?

This is an unbelievable draw for Feds.

tipsarevic followed by djokovic in QF and SF.

He couldn't have got a easier draw.

Haha Federer in Djokovic' half lol. Well I can hear the naysayers coming: 50% chance!

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Post by slashermcguirk Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:29 am

where can you see the draw?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:32 am

Murray has Davydenko in the first round. Could be a tough match, if Nikolay can find his old self
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Post by Chydremion Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:32 am

slashermcguirk wrote:where can you see the draw?

Not the complete draw here , but some info.

http://inagist.com/all/216094361241399296/

Isner could meet Mahut second round.

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Post by Chydremion Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:33 am

Olly wrote:Murray has Davydenko in the first round. Could be a tough match, if Nikolay can find his old self

Nop. Davydenko is **** on grass.

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:41 am

Some interesting ties.

Hewitt v Tsonga. Has the makings of a 5 setter.

Ferrero v Djokovic.


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Post by Cheerycreps Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:43 am

Ferrero V Nole wont be upto much I dont think :-/. I dont want to take anything away from Ferrero but Nole will have his number on grass and deal with him in straights I think.

Hewitt V Tsonga Smile That will be worth watching!

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Post by Chydremion Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:46 am

Cheerycreps wrote:Ferrero V Nole wont be upto much I dont think :-/. I dont want to take anything away from Ferrero but Nole will have his number on grass and deal with him in straights I think.

Hewitt V Tsonga Smile That will be worth watching!

Is that Hewitt who got crushed by Karlovic recently?

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Post by novak143 Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:48 am

Brian Baker Vs Andy Roddick!

The Comeback Kid Vs Goback Uncle!!

That would be a great matchup. Somehow I pity Baker, he is always drawn against tougher oppenents.

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:52 am

novak143 wrote:Brian Baker Vs Andy Roddick!

The Comeback Kid Vs Goback Uncle!!

That would be a great matchup. Somehow I pity Baker, he is always drawn against tougher oppenents.

It's Jamie Baker!!! Rolling Eyes

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:53 am

Murray v Karlovic potentially 2nd round.

What a crap draw he has!

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Post by sirfredperry Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:56 am

Oh dear, the conspiracy guys are gonna have a field day now that Fed is in Djoko's half YET AGAIN. Getting Tipsy rather than Tsonga or Berdych must be good for Rog, no?

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Post by novak143 Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:56 am

legendkillarV2 wrote:
novak143 wrote:Brian Baker Vs Andy Roddick!

The Comeback Kid Vs Goback Uncle!!

That would be a great matchup. Somehow I pity Baker, he is always drawn against tougher oppenents.

It's Jamie Baker!!! Rolling Eyes

Small Confusion.. Any idea whom Brian Baker has drawn to face in I round?

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Post by JuliusHMarx Fri 22 Jun 2012, 10:57 am

legendkillarV2 wrote:Murray v Karlovic potentially 2nd round.

What a crap draw he has!

Karlovic hasn't won 2 matches in a row since February - I don't seem him getting past Murray to the 3rd round.

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 11:03 am

JuliusHMarx wrote:
legendkillarV2 wrote:Murray v Karlovic potentially 2nd round.

What a crap draw he has!

Karlovic hasn't won 2 matches in a row since February - I don't seem him getting past Murray to the 3rd round.

There's always a first.

Though on the Wimbledon grass an upset isn't on the cards, though I will be bricking it if any of the sets go to TB.

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Post by lydian Fri 22 Jun 2012, 11:25 am

Karlovic is a spent force, no danger for Murray.
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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 11:25 am

Brit Women

Robson v Schiavone
Watson v Benesova
Keothavong v Pous Tio
Baltacha v Knapp

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Post by JuliusHMarx Fri 22 Jun 2012, 11:30 am

Knapp is pretty good, but she can fall asleep a bit during matches Laugh

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 11:32 am

Golding v Andreev
Goodall v Zemlja
Ward v Andujar

A chance for Goodall and I am hoping Golding can put his Queens disappointment behind him and turn in a career turning performance.

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 11:34 am

Robson could do it against Schiavone if she finds her FH. Remember when she took Sharapova to 3.

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Post by prostaff85 Fri 22 Jun 2012, 11:40 am

2nd round Isner-Mahut!
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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 11:40 am

The BBC wrote:"Murray and Davydenko have never met on grass before and the Russian won their only previous meeting at a grand slam tournament, knocking the 25-year-old out of the US Open in 2006.

Davydenko, who has never got beyond the fourth round at Wimbledon, finished in the top five of the world rankings for four years running up to 2008, reaching third in 2006, but has struggled with injuries in recent years. "
I have highlighted the phrase that I believe to me misleading: it is foolish quoting Murray's current age for an event occurring nearly six years ago.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/18547918

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Post by lydian Fri 22 Jun 2012, 11:47 am

I actually think Djokovic has the easiest quarter...full of spaniards and claycourters. Ferrero wont offer resistance on grass, Harrison/Lu R2 should be straights, Stepanek R3, R4 hard to predict but should be straight forward...only Berdych at QF is going to be a real test.

Federer has Llodra R2 which could be tricky, maybe Muller R3, maybe Simon or PHM R4, Isner at QF. Not too bad a draw though. Nalby/Tipsarevic is a showcase R1 match for sure in that quarter.

Murray has a tougher draw...Anderson maybe R3, Raonic/Cilic R4, Delpo QF.

Nadal has an interesting quarter, re: recent form horses.... Kohlschreiber/Haas is an interesting R1, as is Goffin/Tomic - battle of the upcomers...Belluci is probably ok R1 - depends which Bellucci turns up, may face Dodig R2 (did ok at Nottingham), Haas in R3, Dolgo R4 (always think Dolgo should do well on grass with his variety), Tsonga QF which is no gimme at all. SF could be Murray/Delpo/Raonic.
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Post by lags72 Fri 22 Jun 2012, 11:56 am

legendkillarV2 wrote:Robson could do it against Schiavone if she finds her FH. Remember when she took Sharapova to 3.

I don't think it went all the way to three, lkv2, although I do remember Laura taking a healthy lead in the opener, only to let it slip on a TB.

There was a distinct look of anxiety mixed with bemusement on Sharapova's face at the quality of Laura's rallying that day, and I think she was mightily relieved to come through.

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Post by banbrotam Fri 22 Jun 2012, 11:57 am

legendkillarV2 wrote:Murray v Karlovic potentially 2nd round.

What a crap draw he has!


I often think that tales of 'tough draws' fro Murray are grossly exaggerated and it's the one thing I criticise the Beeb for

However, this time, it is correct

I'm not too worried about the opening two rounds, although in fairness they are certainly juicy

It's some of the later ties, that worry me - given the Scots current poor form

However, let's be honest - if he's on form then he should be meeting Rafa, even if that means Del Potro or Ferrer

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 12:00 pm

Davydenko, Karlovic, Dimitrov/Anderson, Cilic/Raonic, Del Potro/Ferrer, Nadal, Djokovic/Federer

Good Luck Murray - Shocker!

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Post by banbrotam Fri 22 Jun 2012, 12:04 pm

lydian wrote:
Murray has a tougher draw...Anderson maybe R3, Raonic/Cilic R4, Delpo QF.


I actually think it's better this way as he's always far more focused meeting players who's game he knows and who he's beaten before. I'm also not convinced that Roanic's movement is great for grass, although his serve will be!!

Serve might be nullified by the mixed weather though, which means that the potentially slippy grass is going to be a nightmare for any poor movers of which most of his potential rivals are - so who knows

As usual with the Top 4, it's about what they do

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Post by CaledonianCraig Fri 22 Jun 2012, 12:31 pm

It is a mightily tough draw for Andy - certainly the toughest of the top four seeds. He must hit the ground running as the threats are there for all to see.
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Post by daraghj82 Fri 22 Jun 2012, 12:47 pm



not bad draw for fed, hopefully no slips up and he can meet djoko in SF Very Happy

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri 22 Jun 2012, 1:27 pm

Anybody know how to open pdf?
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Post by Guest Fri 22 Jun 2012, 1:40 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:Anybody know how to open pdf?
You could download a free to use Adobe Reader from cnet.co.uk or cnet.com

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Post by luciusmann Fri 22 Jun 2012, 1:51 pm

It Must Be Love wrote:What?

This is an unbelievable draw for Feds.

tipsarevic followed by djokovic in QF and SF.

He couldn't have got a easier draw.




True, Fed has got an easier draw until the semis @ Wimbledon although couldn't it be argued Nadal had an easy draw until the final of RG just a fortnight ago...? Certainly remember many posters commenting on it at the time! Seems fair in many respects. Smile

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 22 Jun 2012, 2:49 pm

Davydenko first up for Murray shouldn't be too hard really. Never been much good on grass and well past his best. The next 3 rounds are tricky, though they're mostly big servers which Murray normally does well against. Can't complain too much about the QF: Ferrer not many credentials on grass and Del Po will struggle with Murray's low slices.

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Post by banbrotam Fri 22 Jun 2012, 2:51 pm

Mad for Chelsea wrote:Davydenko first up for Murray shouldn't be too hard really. Never been much good on grass and well past his best. The next 3 rounds are tricky, though they're mostly big servers which Murray normally does well against. Can't complain too much about the QF: Ferrer not many credentials on grass and Del Po will struggle with Murray's low slices.


Agreed. But it's still a tough draw

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 22 Jun 2012, 2:55 pm

oh yeah, the early rounds (Davy aside) all look really tricky. I was just trying to find the sliver lining. here's another: I believe part of the reason Murray struggled so badly against Nadal in the semis last year (Wimbledon and US) is how little he'd been tested previously (ok at the Us he nearly lost in R2, but then it was a cruise). Maybe being tested early will switch him on, and he'll come into the semi already sharp Very Happy

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri 22 Jun 2012, 2:55 pm

Gulbis/Berdych not bad hey, Oliver Golding plays Andreev, pretty difficult but Andreev hasn't been in poor form for nothing, draw of the round though for me: Nalkickian vs Tipsarevic Shocked
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Post by laverfan Fri 22 Jun 2012, 3:55 pm

novak143 wrote:
legendkillarV2 wrote:
novak143 wrote:Brian Baker Vs Andy Roddick!

The Comeback Kid Vs Goback Uncle!!

That would be a great matchup. Somehow I pity Baker, he is always drawn against tougher oppenents.

It's Jamie Baker!!! Rolling Eyes

Small Confusion.. Any idea whom Brian Baker has drawn to face in I round?

R1 Rui Machado
R2 Feli Lopez/Nieminen
R3 Fish
R4 Dolgopolov

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Post by invisiblecoolers Fri 22 Jun 2012, 4:16 pm

It was more than expected Fed would be drawn in Djoko's draw, its not a surprise to me.

Sponsors obiviously want Fed-Nadal finals and they made sure its such a way.

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Post by banbrotam Fri 22 Jun 2012, 4:24 pm

Mad for Chelsea wrote:I believe part of the reason Murray struggled so badly against Nadal in the semis last year (Wimbledon and US) is how little he'd been tested previously (ok at the Us he nearly lost in R2, but then it was a cruise). Maybe being tested early will switch him on, and he'll come into the semi already sharp Very Happy

I'm worried I'm agreeing with you so much, given some of our friendly differences of the past Very Happy You are of course correct, the conundrum (great word!!) that is Andy Murray, that if we gave him 5 unknown's to get to the Semi's and they were classed as 'easy' he'd probably drop his serve 8 times per match. Give him something to concentrate his mind and we get the player who looks like he could win still win a Slam

Well see!!

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Post by lags72 Fri 22 Jun 2012, 4:33 pm

Forgetting the more established names for a moment, I think one of the tastiest openers could be Tomic v Goffin

It was at Wimbledon 2011 where Tomic had his great run before falling to Djokovic in 4. He was ranked 158 back then, but of course is seeded now; and Goffin was very impressive at this year's RG, didn't look out of place even against Federer, having come through the qualis.

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Post by Calder106 Fri 22 Jun 2012, 4:57 pm

invisiblecoolers wrote:It was more than expected Fed would be drawn in Djoko's draw, its not a surprise to me.

Sponsors obiviously want Fed-Nadal finals and they made sure its such a way.

Two finals since the beginning of 2009. The plan is not working very well. Whistle

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Post by socal1976 Fri 22 Jun 2012, 5:07 pm

Chydremion wrote:Djokovic has a 50% chance to draw Federer. 50% though seems a far bigger chance than I ever thought it was. If I had that same 50% chance on Roulette I would play non-stop.

Yes yes, but the naysayers can provide theories and demand that Djoko and Fed be drawn together at least a few thousand times in a row so that they can get a large enough sample size to determine how many standard deviations are violated before determining an oddity with the numbers. Great thread you did chydremion, but unfortunately I wasn't allowed to comment on it.

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Post by socal1976 Fri 22 Jun 2012, 5:11 pm

AHHHHHHHHH FEd in Djoko's half again that is now 8 of the last 9 slams drawn in the same half. Please tell us how many standard deviations and formulas we need to figure out if that is fishy or not? But I am sure it is all very above board. Novak gets the tougher semi again and Nadal doesn't, this becoming a joke it is so funny. Egg on the naysayers collective faces again.

I invite all of you to flip a coin 9 times and see if you get heads 8 times out of 9. Lets see how many of you actually manage that very easy feat.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Fri 22 Jun 2012, 5:12 pm

End of the day though socal Djoko will be far happier with his draw than say.....Andy Murray. Also over the last year he has done very well no matter what the draw. I would understand your angst if you were a Murray fan who is still searching for his first slam but Djoko is the world No.1 and well positioned to win a fair few more slams in the future (regardless of draw) so is it really worth making such a major issue of draws??
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Post by JuliusHMarx Fri 22 Jun 2012, 5:15 pm

I read on a stats web-site that if everyone in Britain flipped a coin 10 times, then about 60000 people would get 10 heads (and presumably 60000 would get 10 tails)

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