Poms - cheating scum or misunderstood geniuses?

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Ok, so team GB pick up a win in the track cycling, then one of them (Hindes) reveals that they had a poor start so he deliberately crashed so the race would be restarted.

Is this cheating? Should they be disqualified? How does this compare to the Chinese and Koreans dropping a badminton game to get a better draw in the knockout stages? Or is this just clever riding from the English?

mystiroakey wrote:you can listen and stream everything for free

I am going to sound real ignorant now, does it have videos? There were a few songs that got removed from youtube last year, that I only watched for the video(old red eyes, by beautiful south was one).

It doesn't matter because Australia is a country founded by criminals so to cheat these people out of medals isn't a bad thing.

no. but there are other ways of getting music videos- torrents maybe

Super D Boon wrote:It doesn't matter because Australia is a country founded by criminals so to cheat these people out of medals isn't a bad thing.

Are you calling the English criminals?

mystiroakey wrote:no. but there are other ways of getting music videos- torrents maybe

There was another site, but I forgot its name, lol.

Also remember that with the free version you get adverts every couple of songs and you can only listen to a song 5 times before it's locked until you buy the premium version of Spotify.

I used to use it, but then they decided that the free version wasn't economically viable and made it much worse.

i didnt realise they changed the free version- not suprised though

John Cregan wrote:I don't think this one will go away, despite the BBC's attempts to cover it up.............What we need to know are the RULES.......id be amazed if the rules allowed a situation where you are ALLOWED to deliberately crash, accidentaly maybe..............after the shocking home town decision in yesterdays boxing in favour of British boxer Ogogo, it's not looking good.......................

you can always rely on a Celt for an unbiaised opinion....

A Celt..............not a word we use here in Ireland, but ok?

Suggest you watch the fight, in Beijing 4 years ago, there was a lot of controversial wins for Chinese boxers, it's something that follows this sport around unfortunately, and the Ogogo decision was laughable......... this forum is, after all, about debate, and when a controversial incident occurs we normally discuss it.......................do you have an opinion on the cycling apart from putting up a silly caption of a man holding his head??

Tophat, Ogogo should have lost. It's as simple as that in my opinion. Kytrov dominated the final round. Joshua should have lost also. But the judging as a whole needs to be looked at. There have been some absolute shockers. Atoev vs Juratoni, The Thai fighter earlier are ones that spring to mind. The appeals process is also fundamentally flawed. A result can be overturned if AIBA feel that the referee should or should not have penalised a boxer for breaking the rules. However, the judges are beyond reproach.

Wish we cheated more often to keep up with the cheating yanks/chinese athletes.

dallym wrote:Ok, so team GB pick up a win in the track cycling, then one of them (Hindes) reveals that they had a poor start so he deliberately crashed so the race would be restarted.

Is this cheating? Should they be disqualified? How does this compare to the Chinese and Koreans dropping a badminton game to get a better draw in the knockout stages? Or is this just clever riding from the English?

Actually the rider in the cycling who revealed that they had a poor start and did this deliberate move isn't really British, he is a German and has a Jerry accent when he speaks. Therefore should Team GB had been disqualified even before that race for fielding a rider who may/may not have been eligible to represent Team GB on the basis of where he was born?

The problem is with the rules. Should just be, if you crash then you are out. I don't know why you should be allowed to restart off a crash anyway.

But what happened was within the rules, and the other team didn't make a complaint, so whilst unsportsmanlike, this is no worse an incident than what every other team in the history of sport has done on a regular basis. That doesn't make it right. But, IMO, it does make most of the people whingingb about it hypocrites.

he could have just pulled up and raised his hand- its allowed in this sport- part of the game and the quicker people understand that the better- the guy may have some german in him but so what - he represents gb end of story and clearly is british as well as being german- His father was in the british army stationed in germany!!- you cant really get more british than that in truth!

John Cregan wrote:A Celt..............not a word we use here in Ireland, but ok?

Suggest you watch the fight, in Beijing 4 years ago, there was a lot of controversial wins for Chinese boxers, it's something that follows this sport around unfortunately, and the Ogogo decision was laughable......... this forum is, after all, about debate, and when a controversial incident occurs we normally discuss it.......................do you have an opinion on the cycling apart from putting up a silly caption of a man holding his head??

I didn't think the Ogogo decision was that bad, I find amateur boxing so hard to score and not posting the scores as they go is a big mistake imo. It's how shady scoring gets through in the pro game. If I was going to point to a dodgy decision in the GB boxing it'd be the Joshua score not Ogogo.