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the Apprentice Final - Odnan team page
by Fernando Thu 30 Aug 2012, 12:24 pm
First topic message reminder :
Your task is simple. FIFA are setting up their museum to celebrate the history of football. Your task is to select your greatest ever World XI, along with 5 subs and a manager. Pick the formation that best reflects football history and then fill it with the best players to make the team.
Your submission should be posted here by 2pm on Tuesday 4th September.
Your task is simple. FIFA are setting up their museum to celebrate the history of football. Your task is to select your greatest ever World XI, along with 5 subs and a manager. Pick the formation that best reflects football history and then fill it with the best players to make the team.
Your submission should be posted here by 2pm on Tuesday 4th September.
- Spoiler:
- Odnan XI
----------------- Yashin
Alberto - Baresi - Beckenbauer -Maldini
Garinncha - Zidane - Zico -- Cruyff
----------Pele---- Maradona
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by FIFA Diva Thu 06 Sep 2012, 11:44 am
I'd have Charlton over Di Stefano but other then that Im happy.
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Re: the Apprentice Final - Odnan team page
by Fernando Thu 06 Sep 2012, 2:13 pm
Right since that's team done
1) Do we need tactics to show it would work
2) who wants to help writing up
1) Do we need tactics to show it would work
2) who wants to help writing up
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by sodhat Thu 06 Sep 2012, 2:20 pm
Doesn't say tactics are required - this is a team for a museum not a match.
I think you'll need to say why you chose the formation, and why you chose the players.
I'm around to do parts.
I think you'll need to say why you chose the formation, and why you chose the players.
I'm around to do parts.
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by sodhat Thu 06 Sep 2012, 2:29 pm
Oh, and the manager. I know I suggested Rinus Michels earlier, but it's still your call.
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by Fernando Thu 06 Sep 2012, 2:31 pm
i completely missed that we needed a manager 
who is rinus michels
who is rinus michels
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by sodhat Thu 06 Sep 2012, 2:32 pm
Manager wise we should be looking at guys with worldwide reputations, but also to represent history, a bit of an innovator. I'd nominate Rinus Michels as the manager of Ajax and Holland in the 70s for producing winning teams (Ajax European cup wins, Holland WC finals) and doing it in an incredible manner with stylish football. He could also clearly man manage huge egos with Cruyff being under him.
That's what I posted originally on P1.
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by FIFA Diva Thu 06 Sep 2012, 2:35 pm
I would go with Sir Alex Ferguson.
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by Fernando Thu 06 Sep 2012, 2:35 pm
We're go with him then if can control cruyff your doing well
do we need an assistant?
do we need an assistant?
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by sodhat Thu 06 Sep 2012, 2:37 pm
Didn't say so on Afro's original post, so I guess not unless you want to embellish your submission.
That sounds dirty somehow.
That sounds dirty somehow.
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by Fernando Thu 06 Sep 2012, 2:44 pm
Might as well make it looks decent then who's a decent assistant manager 
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by sodhat Thu 06 Sep 2012, 2:47 pm
Peter Taylor was Clough's assistant for a long while (not the same one that managed England for one game, different guy)
Bob Paisley was assistant manager at Liverpool before taking over from Shankly.
Otherwise it could be anyone with a name really. But, would Fifa care about legendary assistant managers is the question...
Bob Paisley was assistant manager at Liverpool before taking over from Shankly.
Otherwise it could be anyone with a name really. But, would Fifa care about legendary assistant managers is the question...
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by Fernando Thu 06 Sep 2012, 2:50 pm
a manager is only as good as the team around him
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by FIFA Diva Thu 06 Sep 2012, 2:54 pm
If don't say we need an assitant manager then don't go for one, Paisley will be known as one of the greatest managers not assitant manager.
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by Fernando Thu 06 Sep 2012, 2:56 pm
fair enough time to get this written up then
Is everyone about to do some?
Is everyone about to do some?
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by FIFA Diva Thu 06 Sep 2012, 2:57 pm
Yeah course, just tell us what needs to be done.
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by sodhat Thu 06 Sep 2012, 2:58 pm
I am until 5, then I'm out all evening
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by Fernando Thu 06 Sep 2012, 3:00 pm
Split it up into groups
GK + defence - Odnan
Midfield - Viva
Forwards/Manager/Formation - Sodhat
It's up to you which one you want
GK + defence - Odnan
Midfield - Viva
Forwards/Manager/Formation - Sodhat
It's up to you which one you want
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by FIFA Diva Thu 06 Sep 2012, 3:02 pm
I'll do midfield.
How shall we do it, I ask that so we know what to write and everyones part looks similar.
How shall we do it, I ask that so we know what to write and everyones part looks similar.
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by FIFA Diva Thu 06 Sep 2012, 3:03 pm
I was thinking maybe stats for the club and country from wiki.
Little bit about the style of play, what they acheived in career, and why they in the teamm??
Little bit about the style of play, what they acheived in career, and why they in the teamm??
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by sodhat Thu 06 Sep 2012, 3:04 pm
You pick your favoured one Nando and I'll do the other, I'm not fussed which
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by Fernando Thu 06 Sep 2012, 3:05 pm
VivaPaulScholes wrote:I was thinking maybe stats for the club and country from wiki, what they acheived in career, and why they in the teamm??
I think this would suffice although could be an issue for defenders/GK
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by Fernando Thu 06 Sep 2012, 3:07 pm
-------------- Yashin
Alberto - Baresi - Beckenbauer -Maldini
Garinncha - Zidane - Di Stefano -- Cruyff
----------Pele---- Maradona
subs bench: Zoff/Moore/Charlton/Messi/Puskas
Ill take defence remember to do the subs as well guys
Alberto - Baresi - Beckenbauer -Maldini
Garinncha - Zidane - Di Stefano -- Cruyff
----------Pele---- Maradona
subs bench: Zoff/Moore/Charlton/Messi/Puskas
Ill take defence remember to do the subs as well guys
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by Fernando Thu 06 Sep 2012, 3:16 pm
Maybe we could do something like this
Paolo Maldini
Club Apps/Goals
International Apps/Goals
then Blurb about them
Paolo Maldini
Club Apps/Goals
International Apps/Goals
then Blurb about them
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by FIFA Diva Thu 06 Sep 2012, 3:17 pm
I'll take Messi and Charlton too.
Limit to how much we type?
Limit to how much we type?
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by Fernando Thu 06 Sep 2012, 3:19 pm
call it around 3-7 lines don't need too much
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by FIFA Diva Thu 06 Sep 2012, 3:21 pm
I'll get it done tonight before 9pm I'll send you a copy Nando and just give me feedback for any changes.
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by FIFA Diva Thu 06 Sep 2012, 3:37 pm
- Spoiler:
- Zinedine Zidane
Team: Apperances Goals
Cannes 61 6
Bordeaux 139 28
Juventus 151 24
Real Madrid 155 37
France 108 31
Honours
Bordeaux
Intertoto Cup: 1995
Juventus
Seria A: 1997, 1998
Supercoppa Italiana: 1997
UEFA Super Cup: 1996
Intercontinental Cup: 1996
Intertoto Cup: 1999
Real Madrid
La Liga: 2003
Supercopa de España: 2001, 2003
Champions League: 2002
Super Cup: 2002
Intercontinental Cup: 2002
France
World Cup: 1998
European Championship: 2000
Zinedine Zidane is known as the greatest player of his generation, his skill, vision and executution. He made everything look easy and in a graceful way, Zidane was always up for the biggest games and none come bigger then the World Cup Final or Champions League final where he made the difference between going home as gods or losers.
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by FIFA Diva Thu 06 Sep 2012, 3:38 pm
I've done Zidane, is that ok? How we should be doing it?
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by Fernando Thu 06 Sep 2012, 3:46 pm
Yeah that's fine Viva looks excellent
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by sodhat Thu 06 Sep 2012, 3:47 pm
- Spoiler:
- Formation – 4-4-2
The formation chosen was the classic 4-4-2. This formation has endured since its inception, and continues to be utilised today. It provides the classic balance between attack and defence that was sought by teams as the game evolved, and brought the notion of four men at the back to the fore.
It has been the staple formation for many successful teams in history, and while modern thinking has more players being utilised in midfield, most formations can be directly referenced back to 4-4-2 in terms of their basis.
Manager – Rinus Michels
Michels was a footballing innovator, and a purist that started the notion of ‘total football’ where every player is capable of playing every position and the game is played on the ground with fluid movement all over the pitch. Incidentally, this style had Johan Cruyff as one of its disciples, and he took on the ideals to create Barcelona’s ‘dream team’ of the early 1990s. This then spawned the Barcelona we see today – with Pep Guardiola taking his former managers style further into the modern era.
In many ways, the birth of this style would be enough to insert Michels as manager, but he backed the style up with substance – and trophies.
He amassed 4 Dutch titles, 3 domestic cups, and Ajax’s first European Cup in his spell in charge. He had further success at Barcelona, winning the league title with them in his first season. He then took on the challenge of the Dutch national team, leading one of the finest national teams of all time to the 1974 World Cup final, only to be beaten by Germany. He returned to manage the Netherlands a second time however, delivering their only major tournament victory at the 1988 European Championships.
Forwards
Pele – Pele has been acclaimed widely as the greatest to have played the game, and he would certainly have a fair claim to being the most complete player the world has ever seen, with no obvious weakness to his game. He spent his club career with Santos in Brazil, with no need to migrate to Europe to prove his greatness – he proved that with appearances in 3 Brazilian World Cup winning teams.
He is famed for having scored more than 1000 goals in his career, and he remains the top scorer for the Brazil national team ahead of strikers such as Romario, and Ronaldo.
Maradona – He is seen as the most reasonable challenger to Pele’s claim as the greatest of all time. Maradona was good enough to improve good sides into great ones, and perennial challengers for trophies. With Argentina, he led his team to World Cup glory in 1986 with a series of memorable goals and performances, even if he is a cheating little swine. He transformed Napoli from Italian also-rans, into champions in their league, twice. He retains legendary status with Napoli, and deity status in his homeland of Argentina.
With a mix of pace, power, and unreal dribbling skills, he formed the benchmark for forwards worldwide (and especially in Argentina) to be measured against.
Puskas – Puskas rose to fame with a stunning goal at Wembley stadium against England in an historic 6-3 win over England for the Magyars. With a drag back sending the defenders the wrong way, and an explosive finish, Puskas summed up his ability as a goalscorer of incredible pedigree. He scored goals in spades wherever he played, but most famously at Real Madrid, in the all conquering side of the late 50’s and early 60’s. He led Hungary to the brink of an improbable World Cup victory but they ultimately fell to Germany.
Nicknamed the Galloping Major, Puskas possessed a ferocious left foot, and an eye for goal that is quite possibly unsurpassed by any striker before or since.
Messi – Messi is the closest thing that there has been to a successor to Maradona, and the similarities are striking. A left footed forward with exceptional dribbling ability, Messi is the fulcrum of possibly the greatest club side ever. His goalscoring record is phenomenal, and currently unmatched in modern football. Many speak of Messi as one of the greatest players of all time, and his name is mentioned alongside the two untouchables of Pele and Maradona – and he is only 24 years old.
Success with Argentina has so far eluded him, although perhaps more down to circumstance and misfortune than lack of trying. In club football, he has won everything that is worth winning.
There you go Nando.
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by Fernando Thu 06 Sep 2012, 3:52 pm
Thanks Soddy
Later i shall go through them and add on the honors/Apps/Goals like Viva has to your guys
Later i shall go through them and add on the honors/Apps/Goals like Viva has to your guys
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by sodhat Thu 06 Sep 2012, 3:53 pm
Yeah sorry I didn't add the stats - I was just scribbling stuff down on word. Just put:
Played for: Lots of teams
Goals: Loads
Played for: Lots of teams
Goals: Loads
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by Fernando Thu 06 Sep 2012, 3:55 pm
no worries ill get it done later
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by sodhat Thu 06 Sep 2012, 3:56 pm
Well either way, good luck, I hope we've helped you win
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by Fernando Thu 06 Sep 2012, 3:57 pm
Ty but it's prbs doubtful
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by Fernando Thu 06 Sep 2012, 4:04 pm
Manager
Rinus Michels
Michels was a footballing innovator, and a purist that started the notion of ‘total football’ where every player is capable of playing every position and the game is played on the ground with fluid movement all over the pitch. Incidentally, this style had Johan Cruyff as one of its disciples, and he took on the ideals to create Barcelona’s ‘dream team’ of the early 1990s. This then spawned the Barcelona we see today – with Pep Guardiola taking his former managers style further into the modern era.
In many ways, the birth of this style would be enough to insert Michels as manager, but he backed the style up with substance – and trophies.
He amassed 4 Dutch titles, 3 domestic cups, and Ajax’s first European Cup in his spell in charge. He had further success at Barcelona, winning the league title with them in his first season. He then took on the challenge of the Dutch national team, leading one of the finest national teams of all time to the 1974 World Cup final, only to be beaten by Germany. He returned to manage the Netherlands a second time however, delivering their only major tournament victory at the 1988 European Championships.
Honours
UEFA European Football Championship winner: 1988
FIFA World Cup finalist: 1974
Inter-Cities Fairs Cup Trophy Play-Off winner: 1971
European Cup winner: 1971
European Cup finalist: 1969
Eredivisie winner: 1966, 1967, 1968, 1970
La Liga winner: 1974
KNVB Cup winner: 1967, 1970, 1971
Copa del Rey winner: 1978
DFB Pokal winner: 1983
Formation - 4-4-2
The formation chosen was the classic 4-4-2. This formation has endured since its inception, and continues to be utilised today. It provides the classic balance between attack and defence that was sought by teams as the game evolved, and brought the notion of four men at the back to the fore.
It has been the staple formation for many successful teams in history, and while modern thinking has more players being utilised in midfield, most formations can be directly referenced back to 4-4-2 in terms of their basis.
Goalkeepers
Defenders
Midfielders
Forwards
Rinus Michels
Michels was a footballing innovator, and a purist that started the notion of ‘total football’ where every player is capable of playing every position and the game is played on the ground with fluid movement all over the pitch. Incidentally, this style had Johan Cruyff as one of its disciples, and he took on the ideals to create Barcelona’s ‘dream team’ of the early 1990s. This then spawned the Barcelona we see today – with Pep Guardiola taking his former managers style further into the modern era.
In many ways, the birth of this style would be enough to insert Michels as manager, but he backed the style up with substance – and trophies.
He amassed 4 Dutch titles, 3 domestic cups, and Ajax’s first European Cup in his spell in charge. He had further success at Barcelona, winning the league title with them in his first season. He then took on the challenge of the Dutch national team, leading one of the finest national teams of all time to the 1974 World Cup final, only to be beaten by Germany. He returned to manage the Netherlands a second time however, delivering their only major tournament victory at the 1988 European Championships.
Honours
UEFA European Football Championship winner: 1988
FIFA World Cup finalist: 1974
Inter-Cities Fairs Cup Trophy Play-Off winner: 1971
European Cup winner: 1971
European Cup finalist: 1969
Eredivisie winner: 1966, 1967, 1968, 1970
La Liga winner: 1974
KNVB Cup winner: 1967, 1970, 1971
Copa del Rey winner: 1978
DFB Pokal winner: 1983
Formation - 4-4-2
The formation chosen was the classic 4-4-2. This formation has endured since its inception, and continues to be utilised today. It provides the classic balance between attack and defence that was sought by teams as the game evolved, and brought the notion of four men at the back to the fore.
It has been the staple formation for many successful teams in history, and while modern thinking has more players being utilised in midfield, most formations can be directly referenced back to 4-4-2 in terms of their basis.
Goalkeepers
- Lev Yashin:
- Lev Yashin
Team: Apps Goals
Dynamo Moscow - 326 - 1
Soviet Union - 78 - 0
Honours
Dynamo Moscow
Soviet Top League
Champions: 1954, 1955, 1957, 1959, 1963
Runners-up: 1950, 1956, 1958, 1962, 1967, 1970
Soviet Cup
Champions: 1953, 1967, 1970
Runners-up: 1955
1963: European Footballer of the Year
1963: Ballon d'Or (the only goalkeeper to hold the award)
1967: Order of Lenin
1988: FIFA Order of Merit
2000: FIFA World Keeper of the Century
2003: Golden Player of Russia
Lev Yashin was known as the "Black Spider" due to always playing in an all black kit, He was known for his athleticism at that time was superior to most,reflex saves that was just as good as you would see in modern day football and unnerving composure which proved as has saved over 150 penalties in his career, He also was the 1st keeper to play as a sweeper
- Dino Zoff:
- Dino Zoff
Teams: Apps
Udinese 38
Mantova 131
Napoli 143
Juventus 330
Italy 112
Honours
Juventus
Serie A -
1972-73,1974–75,1976–77,1977–78,1980–81,1981–82
Coppa Italia
1978-79, 1982–83
UEFA Cup
1976-77
Italy
FIFA World Cup
1982
European Football Championship
1968
Dino Zoff was one of the most outstanding goalkeepers ever, He holds the record for going to longest without conceding a goal for Italy which is 1142 minutes between 1982-1984, He is also the oldest player to ever win the World Cup. Dino was a match winner for club and country and will go down as a legend of the game.
Defenders
- Carlos Alberto :
- Carlos Alberto Torres
Team: Appearances Goals
Fluminense - 98 - 9
Santos 445 - 40
Fluminense 53 - 4
Flamengo 0-0
New York Cosmos 80-6
California Surf 19-2
New York Cosmos 20- 0
Brazil 53 - 8
Honours
Fluminense
Campeonato Carioca: 1964, 1975, 1976
Taça Guanabara: 1966, 1975
Santos
Recopa Sul-Americana: 1968
Taça de Prata: 1968
Paulista Championship: 1967, 1968, 1969, 1973
New York Cosmos
NASL Soccer Bowl Championships: 1977, 1978, 1980, 1982
Eastern Division, National Conference: 1978, 1979, 1980, 1982
Trans-Atlantic Cup Championships: 1980
Brazil
FIFA World Cup: 1970
Carlos Alberto is a Brazilian legend, He captained the famous Brazilian side which won the 1970 World Cup and received over 50 Brazilian caps during his career. After a great club career in Brazil, Carlos Alberto Torres moved to the New York Cosmos where he was reunited with his friend and national team partner Pelé and helped the Cosmos capture three NASL titles in 1977, 1978 and 1982.
- Franco Baresi:
- Franco Baresi
Teams: Appearances Goals
AC Milan - 710 - 33
Italy -82 - 2
Honours
AC Milan
UEFA Champions league: 3 - 1989, 1990, 1994.
Intercontinental Cup: 2 - 1989, 1990.
European Supercup: 3 - 1989, 1990, 1994.
Italian Championship: 6 - 1979, 1988, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1996.
Serie B: 1981, 1983
Italian Super Cup: 4 - 1988, 1992, 1993, 1994.
Mitropa Cup: 1982
Italy
FIFA World Cup: 1982
Scania 100 Tournament (Sweden 1991):1991
Runners-up FIFA World Cup: 1994
Runners-up US Cup:1992
3rd place FIFA World Cup: 1990
Franco Baresi was not a usual defender he didn't play Centre Back as usual nowadays he played Sweeper, He also stayed at one club through out his career in AC Milan he won many honors with them, He is regarded as the best defender of all time, Baresi is one of the few players to have won all domestic club, international club and national honours
- Franz Beckenbauer:
- Franz Beckenbauer
Teams - Appearances - Goals
Bayern Munich - 528 - 77
New York Cosmos - 105 - 19
Hamburg SV - 37 -0
New York Cosmos - 27 -2
Germany - 103 - 14
Honours
Bayern Munich
Bundesliga –
Winner: 1968–69, 1971–72, 1972–73, 1973–74
DFB-Pokal –
Winner: 1965–66, 1967–68, 1968–69, 1970–71
European Cup –
Winner: 1973–74, 1974–75, 1975–76
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup –
Winner: 1966–67
Intercontinental Cup –
Winner: 1976
Regionalliga Süd –
Winner: 1965, 31 matches 16 goals
Hamburger SV
Bundesliga –
Winner: 1981–82
New York Cosmos
NASL Championship –
Winner: 1977, 1978, 1980
Trans-Atlantic Cup Championships –
Winner: 1980, 1983
Germany
FIFA World Cup –
Winner: 1974
Runner-up: 1966
Third-Place: 1970
UEFA European Football Championship –
Winner: 1972
Runner-up: 1976
Franz Beckenbauer is known as the greatest footballer Germany has ever produced, He was nicknamed "Der Kaiser" due to the dominance and class he displayed on the pitch, He's leadership was up their with the greatest captains in football, He was credited with being inventor of the sweeper role.
- Paolo Maldini:
- Paolo Maldini
Teams - Appearances - Goals
AC Milan - 902 -- 33
Italy - 126 - 7
Honours
AC Milan
Serie A (7): 1987–88, 1991–92, 1992–93, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1998–99, 2003–04
Coppa Italia (1): 2002–03
Supercoppa Italiana (5): 1988, 1992, 1993, 1994, 2004
European Cup/Champions League (5): 1988–89, 1989–90, 1993–94, 2002–03, 2006–07
UEFA Super Cup (5): 1989, 1990, 1994, 2003, 2007
Intercontinental Cup (2): 1989, 1990
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2007
Italy
FIFA World Cup Third-place: 1990
FIFA World cup Runners-up: 1994
UEFA European Football Championship: Runners-up 2000
Paolo Maldini for me is one of the best defenders of all time, He was capable of playing Centre Back and Left Back, He was apart of AC Milan's greatest back 4 in their history, He will always been known as the ultimate professional and remained loyal, He refused a big bow out due to not wanting to distract the club from their game.
- Bobby Moore:
- Bobby Moore
Team: Apperances Goals
West Ham 544. 24
Fulham. 124. 1
San Antonio Thunder 24 1
Seattle Sounders 7 0
Herning Fremad 9 0
Honours
West Ham
Fa Cup: 1964
Cup Winners Cup: 1965
England
World Cup: 1966
Best defender England ever produced, the rock for club and country never put a foot wrong was great in the tackle and also knew how to play Football, he was ahead of his time a pioneer. Pele has stated many times that he is the toughest defender he has ever faced. Whenever you think about English Football it's Bobby Moore holding the Jules Rimet.
Midfielders
- Garinncha:
- Garinncha
Team: Apperances Goals
Botafogo 236 85
Corinthians 4 0
P. Carioca 0 0
Atlético Junior 1 0
Flamengo 4 0
Olaria 8 0
Honours
Botafogo
World Champion Clubs (Paris Intercontinental Championship): 1963
International Quadrangular Tournament: 1954
Interclub Tournament Pentagonal Mexico: 1958
International Tournament of Colombia: 1960
International Tournament in Costa Rica: 1961
Pentagonal the International Club of México: 1962
Golden Jubilee Tournament Football Association of La Paz: 1964
Ibero-American Tournament: 1964
Panamaribo Cup: 1964
Brazil
World Cup: 1958, 1962
Garinrincha should not have been a Footballer let alone one of the best Brazilians and players ever, he had a derformed back, bent legs but he managed to amaze everyone. He had a very high goal scoring record from the wing and never lost a match with Pele for Brazil.
- Zico:
- Zico
Team: Apperances Goals
Flamengo 212 123
Udinese 39 22
Flamengo 37 12
K. Antlers 45 35
Honours
Flamengo
Rio State Championship: 1972, 1974, 1978, 1979, 1979 (special), 1981, 1986
Brazilian Championship: 1980, 1982, 1983, 1987
Copa Libertadores: 1981
K. Antlers
J.League Suntory Series 1993
What more praise can you give to the man known as "The White Pele" during the early 80's he was regarded as the best player around and who can argue with that. He was a danger around the final third with dangerous freekicks and great vision and the passing to match. He is ranked among the best Brazilian players ever no mean feat.
- Zidane:
- Zinedine Zidane
Team: Apperances Goals
Cannes 61 6
Bordeaux 139 28
Juventus 151 24
Real Madrid 155 37
France 108 31
Honours
Bordeaux
Intertoto Cup: 1995
Juventus
Seria A: 1997, 1998
Supercoppa Italiana: 1997
UEFA Super Cup: 1996
Intercontinental Cup: 1996
Intertoto Cup: 1999
Real Madrid
La Liga: 2003
Supercopa de España: 2001, 2003
Champions League: 2002
Super Cup: 2002
Intercontinental Cup: 2002
France
World Cup: 1998
European Championship: 2000
Zinedine Zidane is known as the greatest player of his generation, his skill, vision and executution. He made everything look easy and in a graceful way, Zidane was always up for the biggest games and none come bigger then the World Cup Final or Champions League final where he made the difference between going home as gods or losers.
- Johan Cruyff:
- Johan Cruyff[/u]
Team: Apperances Goals
Ajax 240 190
Barcelona 143 48
LA Aztecs 27 14
Washington 32 12
Levante 10 2
Ajax 36 14
Feyenoord 33 11
Netherlands 48 33
Honours
Ajax
Eredivisie: 1966, 1967, 1968, 1970, 1972, 1973, 1982, 1983
KNVB Cup: 1967, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1983
European Cups: 1971, 1972, 1973
Intercontinental Cup: 1972
Super Cup: 1972, 1973
Intertoto Cup: 1968
Barcelona
La Liga: 1974
Copa del Rey: 1978
Feyenoord
Eredivisie: 1984
KNVB Cup: 1984
Johan Cruyff Europes super player, the one who could rival Pele and Maradona. Was the main component in the birth of Total Football, made it what it is today he created a dynasty which others have followed till this day. Taking his Ajax team to thee European finals in a row is unheard of and not did he win matches he won them in style and embarassing his oppenents. They named the Cruyff turn after him.
- Bobby Charlton:
- Bobby Charlton
Team: Apperances Goals
Manchester United 606 199
Preston North End 38 8
Waterford 3 1
Honours
Manchester United
Football League First Division (3): 1956–57, 1964–65, 1966–67
FA Cup (1): 1962–63
Charity Shield (4): 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
FA Youth Cup (3): 1953–54, 1954–55, 1955–56
European Cup (1): 1967–68
England
World Cup: 1966
For me he is the greatest player England have ever produced, one of the rare Englishmen to have won the Ballon Dor. If you want to see what Manchester United Football Club is about he is the perfect man. Played Football the way it's mean to be, was flashy as they came but also knew how to rough it up. Scored two in the 1968 Final and even till this day is respected by all the former great Foreign plays as the best English man ever.
Forwards
- Pele:
- Pele
Teams - Appearances - Goals
Santos - 656 - 643
New York Cosmos - 107 -64
Honours
Brazil
Roca Cup: 1957, 1963
FIFA World Cup:
Winner: 1958
Winner: 1962
Winner: 1970
Copa América:
Runner-up: 1959
Cruz Cup: 1958, 1962, 1968 [116][117]
Taça Bernardo O'Higgins: 1959 [118]
Atlantic Cup: 1960 [119]
Oswaldo Cruz Cup: 1958, 1962, 1968 [120]
Santos
Copa Libertadores (2): 1962, 1963
Campeonato Paulista (10): 1958, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1973[121]
Taça Brasil (5): 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965[122]
Torneio Roberto Gomes Pedrosa (1): 1968
Torneio Rio-São Paulo (4): 1959, 1963, 1964, 1966[123][124]
Intercontinental Cup (2): 1962, 1963[125]
Intercontinental Supercup (1): 1968[126]
New York Cosmos
North American Soccer League, Soccer Bowl (1): 1977
North American Soccer League, Atlantic Conference Championship (1): 1977
– Pele has been acclaimed widely as the greatest to have played the game, and he would certainly have a fair claim to being the most complete player the world has ever seen, with no obvious weakness to his game. He spent his club career with Santos in Brazil, with no need to migrate to Europe to prove his greatness – he proved that with appearances in 3 Brazilian World Cup winning teams.
He is famed for having scored more than 1000 goals in his career, and he remains the top scorer for the Brazil national team ahead of strikers such as Romario, and Ronaldo.
- Diego Maradona:
- Diego Maradona
Teams - Appearances - Goals
Argentinos Juniors - 167 - 115
Boca Juniors - 40 - 28
Barcelona - 36 - 22
Napoli - 188 - 81
Sevilla - 26 - 5
Newell's Old Boys - 5 - 0
Boca Juniors-30 - 7
Honours
Boca Juniors
Metropolitano championship: 1981
Barcelona
Copa del Rey: 1983
Copa de la Liga: 1983
Supercopa de España: 1983
Napoli
Serie A: 1987, 1990
Coppa Italia: 1987
UEFA Cup: 1989
Supercoppa Italiana: 1990
Argentina
FIFA World Youth Championship: 1979
FIFA World Cup:
Winner: 1986
Runner-up: 1990
Artemio Franchi Trophy: 1993
75th anniversary FIFA Cup: 1979
He is seen as the most reasonable challenger to Pele’s claim as the greatest of all time. Maradona was good enough to improve good sides into great ones, and perennial challengers for trophies. With Argentina, he led his team to World Cup glory in 1986 with a series of memorable goals and performances, even if he is a cheating little swine. He transformed Napoli from Italian also-rans, into champions in their league, twice. He retains legendary status with Napoli, and deity status in his homeland of Argentina.
With a mix of pace, power, and unreal dribbling skills, he formed the benchmark for forwards worldwide (and especially in Argentina) to be measured against.
- Ference Puskas:
- Ferenc Puskas
Teams - Appearances - Goals
Budapest Honved - 358 - 374
Real Madrid - 262 - 242
Hungary - 85 - 84
Honours
Budapest Honvéd
Hungarian League: 1949/50, 1950, 1952, 1954, 1955
Real Madrid
Spanish League: 1960–61, 1961–62, 1962–63, 1963–64, 1964–65
Spanish Cup: 1961–1962
European Cup: 1958–1959, 1959–1960, 1965–1966
Intercontinental Cup: 1960
Hungary
Olympic Champions: 1952
Central European Champions: 1953
World Cup Runners-up: 1954
Balkan Cup: 1947
He rose to fame with a stunning goal at Wembley stadium against England in an historic 6-3 win over England for the Magyars. With a drag back sending the defenders the wrong way, and an explosive finish, Puskas summed up his ability as a goalscorer of incredible pedigree. He scored goals in spades wherever he played, but most famously at Real Madrid, in the all conquering side of the late 50’s and early 60’s. He led Hungary to the brink of an improbable World Cup victory but they ultimately fell to Germany.
Nicknamed the Galloping Major, Puskas possessed a ferocious left foot, and an eye for goal that is quite possibly unsurpassed by any striker before or since.
- Lionel Messi:
- Lionel Messi
Teams - Appearances - Goals
Barcelona - 333 - 259
Honours
Barcelona
La Liga (5): 2004–05, 2005–06, 2008–09, 2009–10, 2010–11
Copa del Rey (2): 2008–09, 2011–12
Supercopa de España (5): 2005, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2011
UEFA Champions League (3): 2005–06, 2008–09, 2010–11
UEFA Super Cup (2): 2009, 2011
FIFA Club World Cup (2): 2009, 2011
Argentina
Olympic Gold Medal (1): 2008
FIFA U-20 World Cup (1): 2005
Runner Up:
Copa America (1): 2007
Messi is the closest thing that there has been to a successor to Maradona, and the similarities are striking. A left footed forward with exceptional dribbling ability, Messi is the fulcrum of possibly the greatest club side ever. His goalscoring record is phenomenal, and currently unmatched in modern football. Many speak of Messi as one of the greatest players of all time, and his name is mentioned alongside the two untouchables of Pele and Maradona – and he is only 24 years old.
Success with Argentina has so far eluded him, although perhaps more down to circumstance and misfortune than lack of trying. In club football, he has won everything that is worth winning.
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Team: Apperances Goals
Ajax 240 190
Barcelona 143 48
LA Aztecs 27 14
Washington 32 12
Levante 10 2
Ajax 36 14
Feyenoord 33 11
Netherlands 48 33
Honours
Ajax
Eredivisie: 1966, 1967, 1968, 1970, 1972, 1973, 1982, 1983
KNVB Cup: 1967, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1983
European Cups: 1971, 1972, 1973
Intercontinental Cup: 1972
Super Cup: 1972, 1973
Intertoto Cup: 1968
Barcelona
La Liga: 1974
Copa del Rey: 1978
Feyenoord
Eredivisie: 1984
KNVB Cup: 1984
Johan Cruyff Europes super player, the one who could rival Pele and Maradona. Was the main component in the birth of Total Football, made it what it is today he created a dynasty which others have followed till this day. Taking his Ajax team to thee European finals in a row is unheard of and not did he win matches he won them in style and embarassing his oppenents. They named the Cruyff turn after him.
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I didn't add personal honours because they had loads.
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- Spoiler:
- Zico
Team: Apperances Goals
Flamengo 212 123
Udinese 39 22
Flamengo 37 12
K. Antlers 45 35
Honours
Flamengo
Rio State Championship: 1972, 1974, 1978, 1979, 1979 (special), 1981, 1986
Brazilian Championship: 1980, 1982, 1983, 1987
Copa Libertadores: 1981
K. Antlers
J.League Suntory Series 1993
What more praise can you give to the man known as "The White Pele" during the early 80's he was regarded as the best player around and who can argue with that. He was a danger around the final third with dangerous freekicks and great vision and the passing to match. He is ranked among the best Brazilian players ever no mean feat.
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- Spoiler:
- Garinncha
Team: Apperances Goals
Botafogo 236 85
Corinthians 4 0
P. Carioca 0 0
Atlético Junior 1 0
Flamengo 4 0
Olaria 8 0
Honours
Botafogo
World Champion Clubs (Paris Intercontinental Championship): 1963
International Quadrangular Tournament: 1954
Interclub Tournament Pentagonal Mexico: 1958
International Tournament of Colombia: 1960
International Tournament in Costa Rica: 1961
Pentagonal the International Club of México: 1962
Golden Jubilee Tournament Football Association of La Paz: 1964
Ibero-American Tournament: 1964
Panamaribo Cup: 1964
Brazil
World Cup: 1958, 1962
Garinrincha should not have been a Footballer let alone one of the best Brazilians and players ever, he had a derformed back, bent legs but he managed to amaze everyone. He had a very high goal scoring record from the wing and never lost a match with Pele for Brazil.
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I was supposed to do Charlton and Messi. Sodhat did Messi who shall I do?
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Sorry Viva, I thought he was a forward!
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you can do Bobby Moore as well as Charlton if you like
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- Spoiler:
- Bobby Charlton
Team: Apperances Goals
Manchester United 606 199
Preston North End 38 8
Waterford 3 1
Honours
Manchester United
Football League First Division (3): 1956–57, 1964–65, 1966–67
FA Cup (1): 1962–63
Charity Shield (4): 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
FA Youth Cup (3): 1953–54, 1954–55, 1955–56
European Cup (1): 1967–68
England
World Cup: 1966
For me he is the greatest player England have ever produced, one of the rare Englishmen to have won the Ballon Dor. If you want to see what Manchester United Football Club is about he is the perfect man. Played Football the way it's mean to be, was flashy as they came but also knew how to rough it up. Scored two in the 1968 Final and even till this day is respected by all the former great Foreign plays as the best English man ever.
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No probs I thought it was just random pick from the subs. I
'll do Moore can't do it now I'll do it by 6ish. AN if you can let me know later on if these are ok or need amending I can do that then.
'll do Moore can't do it now I'll do it by 6ish. AN if you can let me know later on if these are ok or need amending I can do that then.
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They all look fine Viva
Also just remember it's Honors not honours
Also just remember it's Honors not honours
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It's honors if we speak American. Us Brits prefer honours.
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by Fernando Thu 06 Sep 2012, 4:36 pm
im continuously being spell checked for it shall change it back later
shall change it back later
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I'm guessing your Word is set to English (US). You can change it to the UK version so it doesn't correct perfectly good words though.
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