Disgusting
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Disgusting
For so many reasons.
Discuss.
http://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-getting-2-million-josesito-lopez-snags-2125k--56967
Discuss.
http://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-getting-2-million-josesito-lopez-snags-2125k--56967
davidemore- Posts : 2693
Join date : 2011-12-21
Re: Disgusting
Are you kidding me? Lopez is going to take the worst beasting of his career for 212K - I thought he would be making close to a mill
Seanusarrilius- Moderator
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Join date : 2011-02-15
Re: Disgusting
Disgusting, another reason why i dislike GBP so much.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
Join date : 2011-12-21
Re: Disgusting
Stinking, I don't like Alvarez one bit, unfortunately Lopez won't be the one to derail the hype train.
BoxingFan88- Posts : 3759
Join date : 2011-02-20
Re: Disgusting
Nope, but GBP man, what a bunch of tw***.
After offering Kirkland a million for getting a lucky win. Then to come back with this pitiful offer, for a man who won fair and square, in the biggest fight of his career? A man who is moving up two weight classes to take the fight. TWO above his natural fighting weight.
They are feeding him to the lions and not taking care of his future. In fact, they are risking it.
After offering Kirkland a million for getting a lucky win. Then to come back with this pitiful offer, for a man who won fair and square, in the biggest fight of his career? A man who is moving up two weight classes to take the fight. TWO above his natural fighting weight.
They are feeding him to the lions and not taking care of his future. In fact, they are risking it.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
Join date : 2011-12-21
Re: Disgusting
I dont really think its that unusual a split in the circumstances these days to be honest. A big drawing champion against an unheralded and unfancied challenger. 90-10 or 85-15 split. Its not ppv so it wont involve the mega bucks associated with guys like Mayweather or Pacquaio.
manos de piedra- Posts : 5274
Join date : 2011-02-21
Re: Disgusting
Man Lopez must be pretty confident then!
BoxingFan88- Posts : 3759
Join date : 2011-02-20
Re: Disgusting
Canelo gets the bucks and Lopez gets the exposure.
Its a big incentive for Lopez to pull off a major upset (which I am sure he will not) but a good Cotto v Mayweather performance can still propel him for big money in the future.
He has agreed to it and everything else which should tell you something.
Its a big incentive for Lopez to pull off a major upset (which I am sure he will not) but a good Cotto v Mayweather performance can still propel him for big money in the future.
He has agreed to it and everything else which should tell you something.
ONETWOFOREVER- Posts : 5510
Join date : 2011-01-26
Re: Disgusting
Why should a defeat propel someone into big money????
Is that how low Boxing has become!!
Is that how low Boxing has become!!
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40687
Join date : 2011-02-02
Re: Disgusting
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Why should a defeat propel someone into big money????
Is that how low Boxing has become!!
Cotto still has a healthy career after Mayweather. No one is ready to hammer the final nail in his coffin because he put in a great performance.
ONETWOFOREVER- Posts : 5510
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Re: Disgusting
The split is a joke, a complete joke. Would Ortiz be getting the money Lopez is if he won? Hell no. Pay Lopez the wage of the man he scalped.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
Join date : 2011-12-21
Re: Disgusting
to be fair lopez was nobody before he beat ortiz, now he has a world title shot, he cant really complain. if he wins he be making the millions and if he loses then he doesnt deserve been paid millions. its still 10 years wages for one nights work.
eddyfightfan- Posts : 2925
Join date : 2011-02-24
Re: Disgusting
He himself has accepted the money on offer so blame him not GBP.
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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Re: Disgusting
Can't agree wont agree. Death is on the table, he's fighting a coconut tree!
davidemore- Posts : 2693
Join date : 2011-12-21
Re: Disgusting
Its business and Lopez isnt bringing anything to the table for this fight, not even the illusion of a real challenge. I dont think its particularly bad money either. And its a massive opportunity If Ortiz was fighting the event would be ppv which would jack up the money in the pot substantially. .
manos de piedra- Posts : 5274
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Re: Disgusting
Barely anything, throw in tax, maybe 40k... for risking his life.
Canelo will clear 1.4 million. Farce. A million-ish for the hype man after tax.
Do they even have tax in Mexico?
Canelo will clear 1.4 million. Farce. A million-ish for the hype man after tax.
Do they even have tax in Mexico?
davidemore- Posts : 2693
Join date : 2011-12-21
Re: Disgusting
People don't realise how little 99% of boxers get.
Only 10 IF that earn over $1m a fight IMO and this is the norm.
May not be right how the money is split but it is the norm.
Only 10 IF that earn over $1m a fight IMO and this is the norm.
May not be right how the money is split but it is the norm.
Valero's Conscience- Posts : 2096
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Re: Disgusting
Trainers get 20% right. The camp probably eats up another 20%. Then there's tax and expenses such as travel etc. I'm sure promoters screw their fighters for all the costs.
Brutal.
Brutal.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
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Re: Disgusting
davidemore wrote:Trainers get 20% right. The camp probably eats up another 20%. Then there's tax and expenses such as travel etc. I'm sure promoters screw their fighters for all the costs.
Brutal.
All those expenses are tax write-offs though so his actual tax bill will be minimal. #justsayin
TopHat24/7- Posts : 17008
Join date : 2011-07-01
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Location : London
Re: Disgusting
alma wrote:davidemore wrote:Barely anything, throw in tax, maybe 40k... for risking his life.
Canelo will clear 1.4 million. Farce. A million-ish for the hype man after tax.
Do they even have tax in Mexico?
Without googling it, I would imagine taxes are quite high in Mexico. One surmises that Canelo would have an off-shore account set up on his behalf somewhere (I can't imagine a 21 year old would be savvy enough to do this himself) in which case he'd pay very little tax at all, if any.
Plus the American tax system is one of the most convoluted and malleable in the Western world. So much you can do to minimise your tax exposure - Warren Buffet admitted his tax rate was less than half that of his secretary for example!!
TopHat24/7- Posts : 17008
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Re: Disgusting
Defeat didn't propel Cotto into big money ONETWO!!!
he already had an accomplished career before then...
As a biggish name with very few around...
he already had an accomplished career before then...
As a biggish name with very few around...
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40687
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Re: Disgusting
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Defeat didn't propel Cotto into big money ONETWO!!!
he already had an accomplished career before then...
As a biggish name with very few around...
Does pose an interesting question though, is there anyone that's had success out of defeat? Have some of the Brit middleweights for example become more well known/successful for putting in strong winning showings against world level/elite fights like Sturm and Martinez?
Has Bellew's defeat to Cleverly elevated him to a level he wouldn't be at otherwise?
TopHat24/7- Posts : 17008
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Re: Disgusting
It's about exposure. These fighters were given more exposure in those defeats and therefore can make more money.
No one knew Tony B before he went scouse Joey Deacon on Clev.
The casual boxing fan met Cotto through Mayweather.
No one knew Tony B before he went scouse Joey Deacon on Clev.
The casual boxing fan met Cotto through Mayweather.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
Join date : 2011-12-21
Re: Disgusting
"One day there was a silence and it washed through the town... there was no reason to speak so no one made a sound."
Ryan Adams, Ashes & Fire.
Fitting for this moment of stark revelation. A moment given to you from the cultured and informed mind of emore.
Thoughts?
Ryan Adams, Ashes & Fire.
Fitting for this moment of stark revelation. A moment given to you from the cultured and informed mind of emore.
Thoughts?
davidemore- Posts : 2693
Join date : 2011-12-21
Re: Disgusting
It's not about exposure...or every wally that gets slapped would increase his salary!!
Clottey got slapped around off Manny but went the distance.....Has he become a bigger fighter???
He's just disappeared.......
Will Barker and the other guy be big now they have lost to the p4p no 3 in the World...Martinez..
Nope...
Clottey got slapped around off Manny but went the distance.....Has he become a bigger fighter???
He's just disappeared.......
Will Barker and the other guy be big now they have lost to the p4p no 3 in the World...Martinez..
Nope...
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40687
Join date : 2011-02-02
Re: Disgusting
davidemore wrote:It's about exposure. These fighters were given more exposure in those defeats and therefore can make more money.
No one knew Tony B before he went scouse Joey Deacon on Clev.
The casual boxing fan met Cotto through Mayweather.
I think the casual boxing fan met Cotto through the Manny fight more likely.
TopHat24/7- Posts : 17008
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Re: Disgusting
True, but Mayweather is American and that fight really brought it home. IMO.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
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