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Post by davidemore Tue 11 Sep 2012, 6:47 pm

For so many reasons.

Discuss.

http://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-getting-2-million-josesito-lopez-snags-2125k--56967

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Post by Seanusarrilius Tue 11 Sep 2012, 6:49 pm

Are you kidding me? Lopez is going to take the worst beasting of his career for 212K - I thought he would be making close to a mill

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Post by davidemore Tue 11 Sep 2012, 6:50 pm

Disgusting, another reason why i dislike GBP so much.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Tue 11 Sep 2012, 6:53 pm

Stinking, I don't like Alvarez one bit, unfortunately Lopez won't be the one to derail the hype train.

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Post by davidemore Tue 11 Sep 2012, 6:58 pm

Nope, but GBP man, what a bunch of tw***.

After offering Kirkland a million for getting a lucky win. Then to come back with this pitiful offer, for a man who won fair and square, in the biggest fight of his career? A man who is moving up two weight classes to take the fight. TWO above his natural fighting weight.

They are feeding him to the lions and not taking care of his future. In fact, they are risking it.

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Post by manos de piedra Tue 11 Sep 2012, 7:03 pm

I dont really think its that unusual a split in the circumstances these days to be honest. A big drawing champion against an unheralded and unfancied challenger. 90-10 or 85-15 split. Its not ppv so it wont involve the mega bucks associated with guys like Mayweather or Pacquaio.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Tue 11 Sep 2012, 7:10 pm

Man Lopez must be pretty confident then!

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Tue 11 Sep 2012, 7:50 pm

Canelo gets the bucks and Lopez gets the exposure.

Its a big incentive for Lopez to pull off a major upset (which I am sure he will not) but a good Cotto v Mayweather performance can still propel him for big money in the future.

He has agreed to it and everything else which should tell you something.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 11 Sep 2012, 7:51 pm

Why should a defeat propel someone into big money????

Is that how low Boxing has become!!

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Tue 11 Sep 2012, 7:59 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Why should a defeat propel someone into big money????

Is that how low Boxing has become!!

Cotto still has a healthy career after Mayweather. No one is ready to hammer the final nail in his coffin because he put in a great performance.

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Post by davidemore Tue 11 Sep 2012, 11:19 pm

The split is a joke, a complete joke. Would Ortiz be getting the money Lopez is if he won? Hell no. Pay Lopez the wage of the man he scalped.

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Post by eddyfightfan Tue 11 Sep 2012, 11:26 pm

to be fair lopez was nobody before he beat ortiz, now he has a world title shot, he cant really complain. if he wins he be making the millions and if he loses then he doesnt deserve been paid millions. its still 10 years wages for one nights work.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Tue 11 Sep 2012, 11:27 pm

He himself has accepted the money on offer so blame him not GBP.

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Post by davidemore Tue 11 Sep 2012, 11:29 pm

Can't agree wont agree. Death is on the table, he's fighting a coconut tree!

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Post by eddyfightfan Tue 11 Sep 2012, 11:31 pm

you got to beat the man to be the man

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Post by manos de piedra Tue 11 Sep 2012, 11:37 pm

Its business and Lopez isnt bringing anything to the table for this fight, not even the illusion of a real challenge. I dont think its particularly bad money either. And its a massive opportunity If Ortiz was fighting the event would be ppv which would jack up the money in the pot substantially. .

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Post by davidemore Wed 12 Sep 2012, 8:19 am

Barely anything, throw in tax, maybe 40k... for risking his life.

Canelo will clear 1.4 million. Farce. A million-ish for the hype man after tax.

Do they even have tax in Mexico?

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Post by Valero's Conscience Wed 12 Sep 2012, 8:43 am

People don't realise how little 99% of boxers get.

Only 10 IF that earn over $1m a fight IMO and this is the norm.

May not be right how the money is split but it is the norm.

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Post by davidemore Wed 12 Sep 2012, 8:48 am

Trainers get 20% right. The camp probably eats up another 20%. Then there's tax and expenses such as travel etc. I'm sure promoters screw their fighters for all the costs.

Brutal.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed 12 Sep 2012, 9:49 am

davidemore wrote:Trainers get 20% right. The camp probably eats up another 20%. Then there's tax and expenses such as travel etc. I'm sure promoters screw their fighters for all the costs.

Brutal.

All those expenses are tax write-offs though so his actual tax bill will be minimal. #justsayin

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed 12 Sep 2012, 9:51 am

alma wrote:
davidemore wrote:Barely anything, throw in tax, maybe 40k... for risking his life.

Canelo will clear 1.4 million. Farce. A million-ish for the hype man after tax.

Do they even have tax in Mexico?

Without googling it, I would imagine taxes are quite high in Mexico. One surmises that Canelo would have an off-shore account set up on his behalf somewhere (I can't imagine a 21 year old would be savvy enough to do this himself) in which case he'd pay very little tax at all, if any.

Plus the American tax system is one of the most convoluted and malleable in the Western world. So much you can do to minimise your tax exposure - Warren Buffet admitted his tax rate was less than half that of his secretary for example!!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 12 Sep 2012, 9:54 am

Defeat didn't propel Cotto into big money ONETWO!!!

he already had an accomplished career before then...

As a biggish name with very few around...

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed 12 Sep 2012, 10:01 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Defeat didn't propel Cotto into big money ONETWO!!!

he already had an accomplished career before then...

As a biggish name with very few around...

Does pose an interesting question though, is there anyone that's had success out of defeat? Have some of the Brit middleweights for example become more well known/successful for putting in strong winning showings against world level/elite fights like Sturm and Martinez?

Has Bellew's defeat to Cleverly elevated him to a level he wouldn't be at otherwise?

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Post by davidemore Wed 12 Sep 2012, 10:24 am

It's about exposure. These fighters were given more exposure in those defeats and therefore can make more money.

No one knew Tony B before he went scouse Joey Deacon on Clev.

The casual boxing fan met Cotto through Mayweather.

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Post by davidemore Wed 12 Sep 2012, 10:31 am

"One day there was a silence and it washed through the town... there was no reason to speak so no one made a sound."

Ryan Adams, Ashes & Fire.

Fitting for this moment of stark revelation. A moment given to you from the cultured and informed mind of emore.

Thoughts?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 12 Sep 2012, 10:40 am

It's not about exposure...or every wally that gets slapped would increase his salary!!

Clottey got slapped around off Manny but went the distance.....Has he become a bigger fighter???

He's just disappeared.......

Will Barker and the other guy be big now they have lost to the p4p no 3 in the World...Martinez..

Nope...

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed 12 Sep 2012, 11:03 am

davidemore wrote:It's about exposure. These fighters were given more exposure in those defeats and therefore can make more money.

No one knew Tony B before he went scouse Joey Deacon on Clev.

The casual boxing fan met Cotto through Mayweather.

I think the casual boxing fan met Cotto through the Manny fight more likely.

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Post by davidemore Wed 12 Sep 2012, 11:25 am

True, but Mayweather is American and that fight really brought it home. IMO.

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