T20 World Cup: Live Matches Discussion

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Who do you think will win?

and they bowled short ...the Indians in his body cleverly...and got Afridi out pulling.
He is predicatble afridi....and greatly diminshed.

India win a minor battle

I see Ashwin coming round the wicket.....he is flighting all right but I think the line is too defensive....perhaps because it's still PP.

want to see him come over the wkt next over

Yuvraj gets my favorite Pakistani batsman Jamshed......caught behind.
Dhoni back to his comfortable territory of his own formulas

Seems as though Pakistan can only produce bowlers, and India only produce batsmen and spinners.

Jamshed one of the most over rated players in world cricket. Lets see him score runs outside these Asian pancakes.

and Yuvraj...gets another one caught behind. He is far bettwer as a bowler than his part-time status suggests...because he is a batsman
Indians must not relent here....and let Pak get away

Pakistan making Yuvraj Singh look like BS Bedi...

and Yuvraj with his one long hop every over confirms to us that he is only a part timer

Hafeez, the man who's survived a drop caught in very match so far, fails.

Pakistan clueless vs Kohli and Yuvraj ie club level bowlers.

slow bowlers proving very hard for Pakistani batsmen to get away......Kohli with his dibbly dobbly seam up medium stuff ( slower than Afridi's spinners)......bowls a faster topspinner-like on to Hafeez's stumps.

India need to put their foot on the throat and choke them....can't allow a recovery...won't be easy chasing anything against Pak bowling

india over doing kohli

I don't get the hype surrounding Umar Akmal, comparing him to Kohli just shows how limited Umar Akmal is...

KP_fan wrote:india over doing kohli

and paying the price with a 15 run over

and with momentum shifted...Pakistan make the next over also count.

Dhoni made the mistake of relaxing and taking the foot off

ind need to get out one of these in this over or next

KP_fan wrote:ind need to get out one of these in this over or next

and they get a wicket next over

and anotehr wicket goes ....Ind should not let them get past 140

Yuvraj makes his presnece count....a direct throw from Point...gets a run out.
Pak in tatters.

11 balls to go...India should relent in no way

Pak bowled out for 128
India must tread carefully...Pakista is the most dangerous bowling sides in the world.

well dramatic start for Pak.......Gambhir gone 3rd ball Ind has to bat cautiously for 10 overs

cautious batting to get a recovery by India...now 51-1 in 8 overs

Kohli playing great...as he does when the stakes get high....he is good talent....but an extraordinary temperament.
Kohli put down..like sehwag dropped one at slip

India is charging towards victory here on the back of an absolutely superb performance from Virat Kohli.
A good all-round show from Yuvraj Singh as well.

India win by 8 wickets with 3 overs remaining!!.
Their unbeaten record against Pakistan in global tournaments continue!.

india win clinically and get almost equal on NRR to Pak.

So the group of death is still alive and all teams can still go throuhg......and even thouhg mathematically...Aus can still be knocked out...if they lose by a huge margin to Pak and Ind win by a huge margin to SA

A decent opening performance from Sehwag today, not the usual explosive stuff, or the more recent dismissal within the first couple of overs. But 29 of 24, provided India with a platform towards victory. Wasn't an entirely convincing knock, but a lot better than what has been the recent offerings.
People llike Shastry and Manjrekar were asking questions about Yuvraj's place in the side and even his squad selection, and we have been debating the question on these forums as well. But I think although Yuvraj hasn't reached his peak with the bat or ball, he has been better than many others. His bowling in particular, has been underrated, interesting to note that he has been India's joined highest wicket taker in the tournament so far. If India have to go in with 4 bowlers, then Yuvraj will certainly have to play. Tiwary, Raina, Sharma, none of them are half as good as Yuvraj with the ball, and Sehwag hardly bowls in T-20Is, in fact he doesn't bowl as much as he used to do in tests and ODIs as well.

Well this hase been a rather disappointinig tournament for SA once again.

Perhaps we should play tests only?

I think Pakistan missed a trick by not unleashing their two fast bowlers who can really bowl, fast at Yuvraj...angled into his body and lifting.......his reflexes haven't recovered and he was slow to react against Aus.

Neverthless as msp said he made up for his place even before he walked on to the field with his bowling and one direct throw run out.....and even when not 100% he is I think the best Indian batsmen when it comes to clobbering spinners with brute power.
Dhoni is rather stubborn with his team selections.

It was a lesson on "how to play spinners" exhibited by Kohli, Sehwag and Yuvraj...on a pitch that did have something for the spinners and a team that has the best spinners in the world

Pakstan ever beat India in ICC world tournaments?

Scenarios for Ind, Pak, SA and Aus

--India and Pak have almost the same NRR.
--all 4 teams have a chance still
--and mathematically even Aus can get knocked out if Pak beat Aus by a huge margin and India beat SA by the same huge margin

scenarios:

1) If Ind beat SA and Pak lose to Aus...Ind and Aus are throuhg
2) if Pak beat Aus by a huge margin( so that they overtake Aus in NRR) and India beat SA by the same huge margin....Ind and Pak are throuhg
3) If Ind lose to SA by a very narrow margin and pak lose to Aus by a medium sized margin.....Ind and SA might go throuhg.

so in terms of odds...Aus is best placed followed by India and then Pakistan....because Ind is playing the not well organized SA and Pak the awesome form Aus.

But all four are really top sides....anything can happen

If Pak beat Aus, which is quite likely(Watson is due a bad game) then our match vs SA becomes a dead rubber for them as they'd be out and thats when they'd be at their most dangerous. I'd rather see us face SA when they have a good chance of qualification as that increases the likelihood of a "choke". Amla is due for some runs. And he loves our bowlers. I am a bit worried.

Shanks - not convinced of your building bricks there. I don't see Australia losing to Pakistan ....

guildfordbat wrote:Shanks - not convinced of your building bricks there. I don't see Australia losing to Pakistan ....

Well, Watto is due a bad game and the rest of the batting line up is untested. Could struggle against Ajmal and co. Pak recently beat them 2-1 in the T20I series in the UAE.

^ Pakistan is capable of beating ANYONE.....

however in case the above happens...SA will have to beat Ind with a bigger margin...to overtake Pak's NRR

ShankyCricket wrote:

guildfordbat wrote:Shanks - not convinced of your building bricks there. I don't see Australia losing to Pakistan ....

Well, Watto is due a bad game and the rest of the batting line up is untested. Could struggle against Ajmal and co. Pak recently beat them 2-1 in the T20I series in the UAE.

Applying some of that reasoning, Bopara is due a good knock.

If Watson does have a bad game, I suspect others will be more than keen to try to step up. Anyway, we'll soon see ....

England SL and NZ WI today.

Again all 4 sides can make it although SL is best placed. Wins for SL and WI gets them through without questions. WI win and SL loss might see the WI going out as the NRR isn't great. WI lose and SL win, again England or NZ might just go through on NRR.

England will know exactly what they have to do as the NZ-WI game is on first. England just need to win and they should be in the semis - unless WI give NZ a big thrashing. Lumb in for Kieswetter today, hopefully.

New Zealand are fielding after winning the toss. Huge blow for them even before the toss, Dan Vetori out injured. Kane Williamson is dropped and Jacob Oram is back. Ronnie hira takes Vetori's place.
No Dwayne Bravo for West Indies his brother comes in to replace him. Samuel Badree is also getting a game.

Here's Cricinfo's summary of the qualifying scenarios:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-world-twenty20-2012/content/current/story/584949.html

No Vettori hurts us. But at least chasing means we know what we need to do (a win in the 19th over would be nice, and basically force England into must-win territory)

C'mon Sri Lanka!

Sigh.

Why can't we find anyone better than Kyle @£$%^& Mills

West Indies have been too dependent on Chris Gayle and New Zealand on Brendon McCullum. Both can take a game away from the opposition, a head to head would be interesting. But the others need to really step up at some point in the tournament if they have to go further.

Charles and Russell gone. Gayle on fire again. 36/2 from 4 overs.

Gayle inflicted some damage, 30 of 14 balls, but WI needed a few more from the big man. 3 down for 61, New Zealand in charge.

Ronnie Hira into the attack now. Big ask for the young man, standing for Vetori.

The West Indies running between the wicket isn't the greatest. Not running the first hard and never converting the half run to an additional one. More importantly they are even missing on available 2nd runs as well with poor running.

Samuels has thrown it away. West Indies in trouble now at 88-4 after 11 overs. Pollard has been one of the highe profile filures of the tournament so far and they don't have too much batting left.

Well now this is become a total collapse, Bravo gone now, 98-5 in the 13th over.

The pitch doesn't look a minefield, only Gayle got a superb ball.

Ramdin gone now. West Indies would be out of the tournament even before the last match of the group starts.

windies capitulating yet again!