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Who will win the 2012 T20 World Cup?

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Post by Pal Joey Thu 27 Sep 2012, 10:02 pm

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Please feel free to discuss every ball of the 2012 T20 World Cup here.

Who do you think will win?



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Post by msp83 Fri 05 Oct 2012, 3:21 pm

Gayle played only 18 of the 60 balls.

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Post by Mike Selig Fri 05 Oct 2012, 3:23 pm

Hussey bowling darts. Fine as long as you don't get the length even fractionally wrong. Poor from Wade, 4 byes.

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Post by Mike Selig Fri 05 Oct 2012, 3:24 pm

msp83 wrote:Gayle played only 18 of the 60 balls.

Yes West Indies struggle to rotate the strike.

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Post by msp83 Fri 05 Oct 2012, 3:30 pm

Not enough singles from Bravo, but WI are going along nicely. 91-2 after 12. They just have to remain sensible.

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Post by Mike Selig Fri 05 Oct 2012, 3:35 pm

Bravo now getting going. Australia need a wicket.

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Post by msp83 Fri 05 Oct 2012, 3:39 pm

The regular flow of boundaries helping the WI maintain a decent runout. But the number of boundaries they manage, they should be able to get a few more runs.

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Post by Hibbz Fri 05 Oct 2012, 3:41 pm

Ha ha, nice stop with the head!

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Post by Mike Selig Fri 05 Oct 2012, 3:42 pm

Gayle is such a selfish cricketer sometimes, runs his own runs harder than his partners.

Making up for it though with a brutal demolition of Hussey.

Australia's lack of spinners coming back to bite them.

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Post by Hibbz Fri 05 Oct 2012, 3:42 pm

How did he get the last ball for four?

I love it when a top class sportsman is under pressure to perform and then does.

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Post by alfie Fri 05 Oct 2012, 3:47 pm

Wicket at last. Bravo gone but Gayle still there and things not looking good for Australia.

Pollard not exactly a slow scorer by nature so a big score looms...

Bailey didn't half juggle that catch Smile

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Post by Mike Selig Fri 05 Oct 2012, 3:48 pm

Bravo hits the most outrageous 6 (these bats eh?) but then gone next ball. Cummins doing a good job, but still one over of spin which could be harmful.

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Post by msp83 Fri 05 Oct 2012, 3:49 pm

The stage is set for the WI middle order hitters, but will they mess it all up as they have been doing in this tournament so often?

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Post by Mike Selig Fri 05 Oct 2012, 3:51 pm

Ludicrously poor running. If Australia win and it's tight the West Indies should regret their running between the wickets. This would be poor from an U12 side.

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Post by Mike Selig Fri 05 Oct 2012, 3:52 pm

And sloppy from Australia in the field. Hussey's miss, a few byes, some fumbles. Not what you're used to. Gayle's batting aside this has been a poor match thus far.

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Post by msp83 Fri 05 Oct 2012, 3:53 pm

Hasn't been a good day so far for Wade behind the stumps..

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Post by alfie Fri 05 Oct 2012, 3:54 pm

Wade having a bit of a 'mare...

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Post by msp83 Fri 05 Oct 2012, 3:57 pm

Gayle seems to be struggling a bit. Cramps? Or something more serious?

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Post by alfie Fri 05 Oct 2012, 3:58 pm

Cummins has done well here ...as I type this he bowls a wide Smile but he needs to finish his spell well...

Gayle may be hampered by injury but he still hits it pretty hard...

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Post by Mike Selig Fri 05 Oct 2012, 3:59 pm

And now poor field placing costs Australia the wicket of Gayle.

Gayle's obviously done some mischief and can't run anymore. Will he be able to field? West Indies may miss his bowling if not...

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Post by alfie Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:00 pm

Perfectly placed shot from Pollard to finish that over with a boundary...

This could be close to 200 unless Starc can hold them this over

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Post by Hibbz Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:01 pm

Jeez Mike who p!ssed on your chips?

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Post by alfie Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:05 pm

Another error in the deep...four more...and the boundaries just keep coming...looking very ugly now for the Aussies

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Post by alfie Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:06 pm

Doherty to Gayle last over ...hope the crowd have been issued with helmets Smile

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:07 pm

alfie wrote:Another error in the deep...four more...and the boundaries just keep coming...looking very ugly now for the Aussies

Hmmm, do you think Australia will petition the MCC to implement a 3lb weight limit on bats?

Actually, maybe that's not a silly idea. Getting a six off a mis-hit rather cheapens the good shots IMO.
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Post by Mike Selig Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:08 pm

Australia going to have to bat well.

Gayle's performance aside this is some of the worse cricket I've seen all tournament. Sorry if that offends Hibbz but I only call it as I see it. The bowling has, with the exception of Cummins been in the slot. The batting, with the exception of Gayle been swing with your eyes shut and hope. The running has been awful, and the fielding shockingly bad. The captaincy has been nonsensical on the whole.


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Post by alfie Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:08 pm

Going to be over 200 ...

Good luck Australia.

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Post by Hibbz Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:08 pm

Massacre!!!!

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:11 pm

Doherty three overs for 48. Shocked

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Post by msp83 Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:11 pm

205!!. Fine, fine batting performance from the WI!. The 2 Ws, one of the at least have to play most of the overs if Australia have to win this.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:13 pm

I did think Sri Lanka would win the tournament but if WI can keep this level of batting performance up then it's anyone's game.

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Post by Mike Selig Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:13 pm

Australia won't get close to that I reckon.

Really disappointing to see such basic errors in a world semi-final.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:14 pm

Mike Selig wrote:The running has been awful, and the fielding shockingly bad. The captaincy has been nonsensical on the whole.

As the guy on Cricinfo observed perceptively: "Doherty to bowl the last over. Something tells me this is a huge mistake"

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Post by Pal Joey Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:14 pm

Absolute carnage there. Slim chance of getting anywhere near that score unless we can manage about 15+ sixes. Good luck boys.

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Post by Hibbz Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:14 pm

Not offended Mike no need to apologise old bean.

You obviously take T20 far more seriously than I ever can. Glorified rounders in my mind but that was pretty good fun to watch.

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Post by GSC Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:15 pm

Massive effort by the windies
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Post by alfie Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:16 pm

205.

I know West Indies bowling is a bit ordinary , but I think this is surely beyond Australia. Who certainly didn't bowl well , and whose fielding was well down on their normal standard.

Gayle and Pollard finished that off quite ruthlessly.

Watson will need to exceed even his best efforts of this tournament ... I really think they have virtually no hope of chasing this down.

Although I remember once assuming a certain ODI score was impregnable against South Africa...

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Post by msp83 Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:17 pm

What a smart performance from Gayle. Anyone remember what the idiots at the WICB were doing to him same time last year!???

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Post by msp83 Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:18 pm

In an IPL match, DD chased over 190 in 16 overs. David Warner scored 116 of 50 odd balls.

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Post by guildfordbat Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:19 pm

Wow!!!

Hats off to Gayle and Pollard. Gayle actually faced only 41 ball - less than 7 overs.

Thought at the time that Doherty shouldn't have been trusted / lumbered with the last over. A mistake as well in my view to give Hussey a second over - his first over of 0-5 flattered him as it also contained a dreadful full toss which went for 4 byes. Hogg looked pretty good and should have bowled a full four overs.

West Indies now need just a bit of what they don't normally do - sensible cricket ....

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Post by Pal Joey Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:21 pm

Mike Selig wrote:Australia won't get close to that I reckon.

Really disappointing to see such basic errors in a world semi-final.

It started as a trickle and got progressively worse. The bowlers lost some shape in those last 5 or so overs (i.e. absolutely rattled), Doherty a disaster and Hussey was woefully positioned to stop those stoppable (at least one of them) boundaries.

The fielding got about as bad as it can get - not counting all those ones that almost went into the next postcode.

Brilliant batting from Gayle, Bravo and KP(2) at the end there too. clap

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Post by Mike Selig Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:21 pm

Hibbz wrote:Not offended Mike no need to apologise old bean.

You obviously take T20 far more seriously than I ever can. Glorified rounders in my mind but that was pretty good fun to watch.

Can't disagree with that.

Australia will be very disappointed with their bowling (Cummins the notable exception, although Starc bowled some good stuff as well, but in the slot at the end; the rest got their lengths wrong entirely), fielding (Wade and Hussey the main culprits) and tactics (Doherty last over? Really? no deep mid-wicket to Gayle when Cummins bowling back of a length slower balls? Where was the short ball to Pollard?).

West Indies will be pleased with Gayle (obviously) and Pollard who tonked it. They should be concerned about the rest who played out far too many dot balls looking for big shots, and some of the running (with the caveat that Gayle was struggling). I doubt they will be though.

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Post by Mike Selig Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:22 pm

As a chase, Australia should aim for 100/1 (at most) off 12. From then on it's just about on.

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Post by msp83 Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:23 pm

Badree with the first over.

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Post by Mike Selig Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:25 pm

Warner clean bowled in the first over.]

Badree hitting the right length.

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Post by Pal Joey Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:25 pm

Warner gone. Great start.

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Post by alfie Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:25 pm

There's a first Very Happy

A review to establish a clean bowled !

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Post by Mike Selig Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:27 pm

alfie wrote:There's a first Very Happy

A review to establish a clean bowled !

Not a first actually. At the risk of sounding desperately sad Hick was clean bowled by Jayasuriya in I think 98 and it also went to the 3rd umpire...

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:27 pm

Aussies struggling more than somewhat....

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:29 pm

Mike Selig wrote:
alfie wrote:There's a first Very Happy

A review to establish a clean bowled !

Not a first actually. At the risk of sounding desperately sad Hick was clean bowled by Jayasuriya in I think 98 and it also went to the 3rd umpire...

Very Happy

or KP bowling Harbajan Very Happy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Ms37yt3lg

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Post by alfie Fri 05 Oct 2012, 4:32 pm

Yes , not literally a first then Smile

Rare , though.

I have actually had to adjudicate -three times as I recall- when umpiring , on "disputed" bowled dismissals...would have certainly liked to have had the TV eye available .

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