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Post by MtotheC Thu 25 Oct 2012, 5:41 am

Yestetdays group was one of the biggest two horse races the WWC has ever seen out of 50 votes cast 46 of them were spilt between the OMB Heath Slater who convincingly won this group with 27 votes and Austin Aries who racked up a very respectable 19 votes, both progress into round two

Next up is group 7

Please vote for the wrestler you believe has generated the best work in the last 12 months

As always please leave a comment as to why you voted

The top two will progress into round 2

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Post by VDT Thu 25 Oct 2012, 6:58 am

Tough group today, good mix of don't know, don't like and never seen wrestle! Went with the Miz, he's been alright since returning.
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Post by Crimey Thu 25 Oct 2012, 7:49 am

I went for The Miz, unfortunately basically by default. Haven't seen Davey Richards, Devon has never been any good at much to be honest and has had an odd year. The only other option is Ryder who after being the flavour of the month last year has dropped off the radar now, and is probably around the level he deserves for his talent...Woo Woo Woo he knows it.

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Post by UpsideDownFace Thu 25 Oct 2012, 9:24 am

Davey Richards doesn't deserve to be in the business. Absolute joke

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Thu 25 Oct 2012, 9:26 am

UpsideDownFace wrote:Davey Richards doesn't deserve to be in the business. Absolute joke

Why is that UDF? I don't know anything about him.

I've gone for Miz. Not had a great year, but I still think he's an exciting performer who is always good on the mic. His new look is good (not in a gay way). I don't get Devon. I'm not a fan of Ryder. And I don't know the others

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Post by Hero Thu 25 Oct 2012, 9:31 am

I think he very much splits opinion Davey, some see him as a black hole of charisma, some like his style. He's had 5 star matches but also at times comes across as not really having a love for the industry and has bailed a few times on appearances for some Feds which leaves the fans annoyed.

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Post by UpsideDownFace Thu 25 Oct 2012, 9:36 am

He thinks he is the man.

Likes to makes opponents look weak by not selling their moves.

Thinks he is amazing because he has an MMA style.

Has absolute zero interest interest in the business.

Promoters have booked him, then he's turned up and demanded his money up front then bailed on the show when he's got it.


I have absolutely no respect for the guy.

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Post by Y2James Thu 25 Oct 2012, 10:17 am

Miz for me, but only by default

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Post by Guest Thu 25 Oct 2012, 10:25 am

I only went for Devon because he is the only one who has actually done anything!!!

Miz - Miz TV is the highlight so far
Davey Richards - Punched a fan
Zach Ryder - Got put in a wheelchair

Devon - Main figurehead for TNA's storyline of the year....

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Post by The_Enigma Thu 25 Oct 2012, 10:30 am

I do respect Zack Ryder for making the changes and push he got happen for himself with his youtube show, it rejuvenated him as a mid carder with character setting himself apart from the bland midcarders we see today, but his character & gimmick got stale very quickly and seems to be stuck (like a lot of talent there at the minute) with what creative have for him.

All the talent here seems to have disappeared or had time of for one reason or another, so I'll have to go with Kyle O'Reilly. Had a great breakthrough year and was one of the few bright points in what has been a dark year for ROH.

Vote Kyle O'Reilly OK

I will also be addressing the Davey Richards situation later on today when I get 10 minutes at work

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD Thu 25 Oct 2012, 10:47 am

I voted for Davey Richards, despite what people think of him in and out of the ring, this isn't a vintage group and Richards has had some very good (if slightly over indulgent) matches over the past year, he's done some top work against the likes of Edwards, Steen and Elgin especially.

O'Rielly and Steamboat have also produced some good/great matches but a)I've seen more of Richards and b) neither of these guys have been tested at a consistent main event level like Richards, none of the three men are much cop on the mic so that's irrellevent.

Miz is probably the total package as far as wrestling and talking goes, but he was MIA for most of the year and has suffered from a lack of defining feuds since his return.

Ryder's credability has fallen off a cliff this year.

and finally

Devon!?

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Post by Guest Thu 25 Oct 2012, 10:49 am

Devon is the main spokesperson for Aces and Eights - This is TNA's biggest story of the year.............

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Post by JJJohnson Thu 25 Oct 2012, 10:50 am

This group is a difficult one really because nobody really stands out for their achievements.

I only watch WWE and TNA so can't comment on anyone else outside of that bracket.

It would be a straight shootout between Miz and Devon and in the end I have gone for Miz.

Whilst he hasn't done anything spectacular this year, he has had a few decent moments and more than anyone else on the list and that is why he edges it.

Winning the Team Laurinitis vs Team Long match at Mania. Coming back and winning the IC Title, which he made a fair bit more relevant again before dropping it to Kofi in what has been a fairly respectable feud with some good matches between them.

Devon was obviously the fighting TV Champion and now a member/leader of Aces and Eights so he hasn't had a quiet year but just not done enough for me. If the A&8's story takes off then he might do better next year.

Don't know Davey Richards but he sounds like a proper douche.

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD Thu 25 Oct 2012, 10:51 am

AntLord wrote:Devon is the main spokesperson for Aces and Eights - This is TNA's biggest story of the year.............

and the storyline that has single handedly killed most if not all the good work TNA has done this past year

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Post by Crimey Thu 25 Oct 2012, 11:18 am

Miz is probably the total package as far as wrestling and talking goes, but he was MIA for most of the year and has suffered from a lack of defining feuds since his return.

I agree with this and I think it's ridiculous that WWE aren't using him correctly.

I used to hate The Miz in his early days, and I remember during the Miz and Morrison partnership he was always seen as the Marty Jannetty to Morrison's Shawn Michaels, but when they split up it became clear The Miz was much more talented.

I do think WWE will get behind him eventually, he works hard off screen following the example of John Cena and does a lot of media work which WWE will always love, however to the benefit of the fans I think The Miz has a lot more charisma than Cena. I think The Miz is an excellent heel and would make a decent face too, he reminds me a little of Edge in his acting and wrestling skills, not a high flyer or technically great, but he's a show man in the ring and on the mic.

If it wasn't for being out of action (was it an injury of film) and poor booking, he'd be an easy winner for this group I think. It'd be a shame if WWE never trigger The Miz's obvious potential.

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Post by UpsideDownFace Thu 25 Oct 2012, 11:48 am

I think he was filming the new marine film

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Post by Guest Thu 25 Oct 2012, 11:53 am

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:
AntLord wrote:Devon is the main spokesperson for Aces and Eights - This is TNA's biggest story of the year.............

and the storyline that has single handedly killed most if not all the good work TNA has done this past year

Elaborate....

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Post by Price Check On Jackass Thu 25 Oct 2012, 12:03 pm

Miz for me.

Never really bought into Ryder, Haven't seen alot of Steamboat or O'reilly, Davey's a d!ck and Devon? Who cares?

Miz Is Awesome !

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Post by Fernando Thu 25 Oct 2012, 12:07 pm

For people wondering why Davey is being labelled a dick by many

Here's why
https://www.606v2.com/t33171-davey-richards-tony-kozina-kyle-o-reilly-bringing-unprofessional-ism-to-new-lows

What i will say is this is voting competition on Wrestling Performance not weather he's a douche or not

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Post by UpsideDownFace Thu 25 Oct 2012, 12:11 pm

It's also the whole package. Some of the points I brought up are valid such as no selling. Plus he is poop on the mic

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD Thu 25 Oct 2012, 12:16 pm

AntLord wrote:
Dr Gregory House MD wrote:
AntLord wrote:Devon is the main spokesperson for Aces and Eights - This is TNA's biggest story of the year.............

and the storyline that has single handedly killed most if not all the good work TNA has done this past year

Elaborate....

It's just been a confusing mess, started with a little bit of intrigue, but generally has been a letdown, eaten up screen time (look at how much build up, X Division and TV Titles got for BFG in comparision to A&8's), put Hogan and Sting back in a spotlight they don't deserve, I could go on but baiscally, TNA had really lept out the shadows this year with some logiacl storytelling and a young talented card, A&8's have baisically blown that all to the margins and a now a Russo-esque storyline takes centre stage every week as two old men run around casting shadows over everyone else.

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Post by Mat Thu 25 Oct 2012, 12:47 pm

None of the people in this group have really done a lot of note this year(Of the ones I've heard of) so this one I went for my favourite out of the lot....Zack Ryder.

Woo, woo, woo you know it!

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Post by MtotheC Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:08 pm

Second place could go to anyone here with just over half the vote in.

This is a very difficult group to vote on especially for the wwe only fans:

Steamboat has not had a lot of TV time but from I’ve seen on TV he has raw talent in abundance, still needs to find that niche though that will set him apart from every other cruiserweight out there, his father’s name will surely get him a slight amount of kudus but as many other second and third generations starts will testify to its not a golden ticket to the big time, this competition may be a few years too early for him

Davey Richards splits opinion for those that know his work, he's definitely a talented individual and can go in the ring that’s for sure, I personally haven't seen enough of him to vote in his favour

Devon has found himself in the middle of TNA's biggest storyline whether you like the angle or not he is right in the eye of it, I was more shocked at TNA's decision to go with Devon for BFG which is essentially their mainia than I was to see Devon himself, a proven hard worker was always going to be kept on in a company that is heavily reliant on new talent establishing itself but for him to be involved in the biggest PPV as the 'big reveal' was disappointing. Not something Devon has much control over himself but I think it will work against him in today’s group.

Can't really add much on o'riely or Ryder that hasn't already been said

My vote goes to The Miz, I do think he has the potential to be a star but his booking needs to be consistent and wwe need to persist with him even if what they try doesn’t work straight away. He's involvement with R-truth and the hhh 'safe working conditions' angle was decent and for a while they were the most interesting thing on Raw, right up until the rock and cena, mainly cena squashed their momentum.

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Post by Miz NG Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:18 pm

I went with the Miz as the turn around since his return has been very good. He went from being in the dog house to IC champion.

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Post by ncfc_Tooze Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:52 pm

Fernando wrote:For people wondering why Davey is being labelled a dick by many

Here's why
https://www.606v2.com/t33171-davey-richards-tony-kozina-kyle-o-reilly-bringing-unprofessional-ism-to-new-lows

What i will say is this is voting competition on Wrestling Performance not weather he's a douche or not


Goes before that for me, with the Zebra Kid King of europe cup incident and his no shows of events after that, he is a grade A (fill in the blank here).
Also I have not really seen improvement in him and last few times I have seen him he has been rolling out virtually the same match he has been banging out for the last year.


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Post by Beer Thu 25 Oct 2012, 3:18 pm

Really had no idea who to choose here, so i've gone for O'Reilly as i heard gone things about him and seems to have made a name for himself this year.

I've heard alot of bad things about Richards. Zack Ryder bores me. Steamboat is to green and The Miz; whilst having all the tools, is still paying for dropping JoMo.

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Post by Kay Fabe Thu 25 Oct 2012, 3:39 pm

Davey Richards for me by the length of the Thames

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu 25 Oct 2012, 5:21 pm

With no knowledge of a few I've ended up going for the Miz. I'm a big fan anyway, guy is clever, funny and he can fight. The match he put on with Kofi at Main Event was brilliant.

Richie Steamboat is doing ok, bit bland for me but obvious face potential. The bits I've watched see him feuding with a man of far more charisma.

Devon is a pit of despair that TNA has fallen into. Granted, its not his fault they revealed him at BFG, whereas a month before he'd have made impact for the right reasons, but he's just not very good.

I quite like Ryder's ring work, but WWE pulled the plug on him. Should have had him go over Kane and recover pride, especially as Kane can take a few defeats.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Thu 25 Oct 2012, 6:18 pm

Zack Ryder had a fantastic end to 2011 and i think a lot of people were really getting high hopes for him in 2012. I don't agree with the way he lost his US title so cheaply and never got a rematch. His feud with Kane ended at a Pre Show before Over The Limit. Since then he hasn't really done anything.

My vote goes for The Miz. Really like this guy. The reaction he got when he returned at Money In The Bank was class. Had a great match with Christan on Raw 1000 and he really did show passion when he won the belt. Did a great night on commentary on Raw one night. Now he has droped the belt i hope he can squeeze back into the main event picture.

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Post by rumfish mcallister Thu 25 Oct 2012, 9:09 pm

The Miz for me.. He is just a good solid upper mid card performer.. Now he has dropped the IC belt would like to see him in the mix for the WHC..

Ryder has stalled this year, but i think that always going to happen as there is no longevity to his gimmick.

Devon has only been a talking point for the last couple of weeks, and briefly when his contract ran down. Other than that nobody could care less about him.

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Post by JoshSansom Thu 25 Oct 2012, 9:39 pm

I went for the Miz because in the episodes of NXT/FCW I have seem Richie has been rather dreadfully dull, haven't seen either of the two Indie chaps, don't like Devon when he is not with Bubba/Bully and think Zach is a bit rubbish.


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Post by MtotheC Fri 26 Oct 2012, 7:38 am

Two wwe superstars through to round two, the miz as group winner and Ryder scrapping through in second place

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