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Post by Union Cane Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:30 pm

Undefeated light-heavyweight contender Ryan Coyne has revealed that his fight with WBO title holder Nathan Cleverly is highly unlikely to happen due to action taken by his ex-promoter Don King.

The 30 year-old southpaw has been announced as the Welshman’s fourth title defence for the last few weeks, but has now revealed that his one-time promoter King is threatening legal action towards the fight agreement.

The contest was pencilled in on the undercard of Golden Boy’s massive headline card featuring Abner Mares and Anselmo Moreno and Coyne is distraught that the opportunity may have now been taken away from him.

“I am sorry to toss a monkey wrench in things, but my fight with Nathan Cleverly is not going to happen,” Coyne told World Boxing News. “This is purely because of the spite of an evil zealot named Don King.

“I personally am 100% ready to go forward with this fight and I can’t wait to oppose Nathan Cleverly next month, but Don threatened the WBO and Frank Warren with a lawsuit and that seems to be that.

“In my eyes, my contract with him expired, but he is now claiming an extension and due to his threats to great promoters like Frank Warren and Golden Boy, it is a dreadful situation that has cost me dearly.”

It now remains to be seen whether the high-profile fight can be salvaged or whether the Saint Louis boxer will be forced to giveway from his deserved shot at the 175lb world title at Don King’s expense.

http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2012/10/wbn-exclusive-don-king-dispute-means.html
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Post by two_tone Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:45 pm

Don King living up to his repuatation, even after all these years he hasn't mellowed. Can't imagine there will be an improvement of opponent for Clev though off the back of this. Would be happy if Bellew got a rematch as I enjoyed that fight.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:06 pm

Box Nation are denying it on facebook......

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Post by Union Cane Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:25 pm

A great promoter like Frank wouldn't cross swords with the evil zealot named Don King, I'm sure.

Robin Krasniqi at Vetch Field...
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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:52 pm

Hopefully cleverly can at least step in with a top 50 light heavy now, but I'm not optimistic, more likely it will be a Karpency rematch knowing frank

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Post by eddyfightfan Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:29 pm

coynes deserved title shot? hopefully someone anywhere near decent will step in, but lets be honest its probably going to be worse, and blamed on the short notice pull out.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:38 pm

I hope it is cancelled and he gets scrapped from the card. It was a nonsense fight in the first place.

Try giving the mandatory a fight Frank instead of begging the WBO for ridiculous defenses against woeful fighters.

Cleverly is still sniffin around at a domestic level but with a WBO world title.
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Post by Lumbering_Jack Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:42 pm

My window cleaner is a bit of a chav... That is enough to earn you a spot these days.

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Post by Union Cane Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:45 pm

Lumbering_Jack wrote:My window cleaner is a bit of a chav... That is enough to earn you a spot these days.

Haha, yeah.
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Post by 88Chris05 Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:54 pm

alma wrote:Is tocker pudwill available?

Too dangerous an opponent for Cleverly at this stage, particularly at short notice. Let the lad crawl before he can walk, alma.
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Post by azania Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:47 am

Pac can step in.....with weight stips....ask Clev to come in at 160 and claim to be the best ever at LHW after stopping a mildly weight drained Clev.

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Post by BallchinianMuffwig Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:58 am

Gutted

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Post by AlexHuckerby Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:07 am

Just reached a point where I struggle to care a jot about Cleverly's career. Sad, because when he was on Sky a few years back before he was World Champion I was really interested and really liked him, it's just become one farce after another, sadly.

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Post by The genius of PBF Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:38 am

Lumbering_Jack wrote:My window cleaner is a bit of a chav... That is enough to earn you a spot these days.

Mind the windows tina?

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Post by EdWoodjr Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:06 pm

Brian Sutherland might be available.

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Post by bhb001 Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:06 am

This is still in doubt with the great quote on the BBC web site of "He has trained hard for a 12-rounder and desperately wants a world title fight," said Cleverly Sr. I am sure you all agree that after two years of holding the title, we all would like him to have a world title fight as well.

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Post by bellchees Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:10 am

bhb001 wrote:This is still in doubt with the great quote on the BBC web site of "He has trained hard for a 12-rounder and desperately wants a world title fight," said Cleverly Sr. I am sure you all agree that after two years of holding the title, we all would like him to have a world title fight as well.

That's priceless.

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Post by Small Time Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:40 am

EdWoodjr wrote:Brian Sutherland might be available.

Apparently Frank didn't want to take that big a risk.

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Post by Super D Boon Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:42 am

Ladies! You cannot blame Cleverly for this latest fiasco. As much as I'm a grave doubter myself this is not the man's fault.

And Union - The Vetch field was knocked down many moons ago. From a moderator.....I expect better! picard

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Post by eddyfightfan Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:47 am

cleverly cant be blamed for the opponents, but he can be blamed for year after year not leaving or trying to leave frank, or at least pushing for bigger fights. its not like he's beating b level world fighters, he's beating nurses, amatuers, window cleaners and club fighters. i dont know where they find these guys sometimes.

have they ever heard of a mandatory challenger, or god forbid a unifaction fight?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:55 am

If Warren doesn't have faith in you, you ain't facing anyone half decent.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:34 pm

Confirmed off. Apparently Warren has to find a replacement ranked top15 by the WBO and has '3 names' at the moment.

How/why a ranked (even by the crappy WBO) fighter would take a match on such short notice is beyond me.

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Post by Union Cane Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:06 pm

One of this lot then...

1 Robin Krasniqi (International) GER
2 Braimah Kamoko (WBO Africa) GHA
3 Juergen Braehmer GER
4 Dustin Dirks GER
5 Eduard Gutknecht GER
6 Bernard Hopkins USA
7 Vyacheslav Uzelkov (Inter-Continental) UKR
8 Andrzej Fonfara POL
9 Cornelius White USA
10 Karo Murat GER
11 Denis Simcic SVN
12 Jackson Junior (Latino) BRA
13 Isaac Chilemba MAL
14 Tony Bellew GB
15 Eleider Alvarez (NABO) COL

He should fight Braehmer, that would at least give his claim to the title some validity.
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Post by seanmichaels Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:24 pm

Dustin Dirks. I like that name.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:24 pm

Wouldn't mind seeing the Isaac Chilemba fight tbh

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Post by azania Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:28 pm

Dustin Dirks sounds like a porn star.

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Post by Union Cane Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:31 pm

azania wrote:Dustin Dirks sounds like a porn star.

He doesn't look like one, he's ginger.
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Post by seanmichaels Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:32 pm

Racist

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Post by AlexHuckerby Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:59 pm

Reminds me of the name Dirk Diggler off of Boogie Nights.

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Post by hogey Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:53 am

Juergen Braehmer would be a proper test and at least he would have a little more legitimacy if he beat the man who actually held the title previous to himself. Sadly cant see FW taking such a risk though unfortunately, even though i bet young Clev would jump at it.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:54 am

Laughable laughable Clev. Don't even watch his fights anymore. Fight someone real, ya bum

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Post by Super D Boon Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:44 am

hogey wrote:Juergen Braehmer would be a proper test and at least he would have a little more legitimacy if he beat the man who actually held the title previous to himself. Sadly cant see FW taking such a risk though unfortunately, even though i bet young Clev would jump at it.

That would definitely up his rep with the fans. I've got a feeling the fight will happen at some point. I think Universum handle Brahmer and they have a big stock in the WBO .They'll probably force a manatory somewhere down the line for Brahmer to get his old title back. They'll probably pay the WBO loads to stage it in Germany the way they did for Mario Veit v Calzaghe who (laughable as it is now) paid around £1m to the WBO to fight in Germany, that confident that their man could avenge the defeat of the first fight. Sadly for Clev I think he's living on borrowed time.

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Post by azania Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:50 am

Is Clev that bad or are people down on his due to his level of opponents? I haven't bothered watching him since he went off to BoxNation.

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Post by Super D Boon Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:54 am

He's a good fighter but probably not really world level. Looked pretty ordinary recently and that having dominated Karo Murat who was meant to be something. Since nearly losing to Bellew he's been held back big time!

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Post by Mayweathers cellmate Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:57 am

Don't think his stock dropped from the Bellew fight. He was clearly the better fighter and was never in danger of losing, but wanted to show he could beat Bellew at Bellews own game which made it alot closer.

Cleverleys problem is that Frank Warren thinks he can do the same thing promotionally with him as he did with Calzaghe/Hatton/Naz/Eubank, ie feed him unknown bums hoping no one notices. Times have changed and those days are gone thank god.

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Post by bhb001 Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:45 pm

So apparently it's Shawn Hawk from the US for a title fight. I thought the bloke had to be in the top 15 for a title fight, but isn't in the list above from Union. Another fast one from Warren or a real challenge? I have no idea, but with history on my side I lean to the former. Anybody got any more information on him beyond him being ranked 10th light heavy in the US?

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Post by Union Cane Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:06 pm

He's a native American and was fighting at heavyweight (weighing in at 228lbs) in 2007.

5 fights at light heavy, last outing was a defeat for the WBO NABO light heavy title.

Hopefully a win here will set up a clash with Hopkins, Cloud, Dawson etc etc etc...
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Post by Union Cane Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:54 pm

Agreed alma, all the talk of the other titlists avoiding him, Froch turning down £1m, Clev going down to super-middle if the offer is right, all that, and then a fight against this guy. Cleverly is an intelligent chap, but he has either fallen for FW's waffle or he realises that he can't cut it at the top level.
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Post by bhb001 Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:34 pm

I agree that it is a weak defence but his fight against Karpency or Calzaghe against Manfredo or even Haye against Harrison are as bad if not worse. I still ask the question how is it a world title fight when we were led to believe it had to be at least a top 15 boxer to make it so?

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Post by Union Cane Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:40 pm

The top 15 are probably ducking him as well. More Warren waffle, bhb. The WBO could hardly refuse to sanction the fight as they had already sanctioned the original fight against Coyne, who let's not forget is also nowhere to be seen on their rankings.
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Post by ShahenshahG Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:14 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2229810/Nathan-Cleverly-fight-Bernard-Hopkins-year.html

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Post by bhb001 Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:25 am

Wow, the Daily Mail. Must be true then!

Joking aside, thanks Shah for putting this up, but I will take it as a chance to get publicity (sell a few tickets) before his fight on Saturday.


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Post by ShahenshahG Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:28 am

Laugh Dailymail is big over with the yanks so they tend to get the boxing stuff first but I admit its usually more miss than hit

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Post by bhb001 Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:30 am

Apparently, Hawk is the perfect opponent for Cleverley, says our Nigel!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/wales/20234709

Definitely a glass half full type of person.

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