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RowleyFox wrote:Inside centre.

1.Yannick Jauzion
2.Berrick Barnes
3.Sonny Bill Williams
4.Maxime Mermoz
5.Ma'a Nonu
6.Matt Giteau
7.Luke McAlister
8.Seilala Mapasua
9.Jean De Villiers
10.Jamie Roberts
11.Juan De Jongh
12.Wynand Olivier
13.Gordan D'Arcy
14.Felipe Contepomi
15.Riki Flutey

15 there best I can do, no room for Hape

All that time you tried to tell me that Contepomi was rubbish! Oh dear oh dear, 14th in the world isn't too shabby!

How is Highinbottom above top flankers such as SOB & Thompson. S15 isn't the be all you know, Higginbottom has made no impact at Int level.

Morne Steyn is not a world class FH. Flood/Wilko are street ahead.

He is rubbish but there isn't anybody else who can top him, Flutey has gone off the radar and Hape is pants.

Higginbotham has been very good for the past two season's he made an impact when Australia played Leicester

'Morne Steyn is not a world class FH. Flood/Wilko are street ahead'

Been drinking Pooly? Steyn is streets ahead of them both.

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Morne Steyn is not a world class FH. Flood/Wilko are street ahead.

Only Pooly can say such outrageous things and not get a bite. Earlier Morne was decribed as 'average'. I'd say 30+ caps for your country and a world cup winners medal is a pretty good return from a rugby career - and he's still only what 27?

He's a bit off form for the last 12 months, so maybe is equal to Wilkinson at the moment. Flood is no way near yet.

Don't think Steyn would be half the player if played for other teams, the strategy that boks use brings the best out of him.

He's perfect for a beastly set of forwards. Forwards win penalties and you can count on him to kick penalties

I used to really like him but bar a top 3N he's been pretty average. Wasn't Butch SA's fh when they won the WC?

Outside centres then.

1.Jaque Fourie
2.Conrad Smith
3.Brian O'Driscoll
4.Robbie Fruean
5.James Hook
6.David Marty
7.Digby Ioane(Classing him as 13)
8.Stirling Mortlock
9.Richard Kahui
10.Rob Horne
11.Jonathan Davies
12.Mike Tindall
13.Reagan King
14.Dom Waldouck
15.Anthony Fainga'a

Sugar missed Evans and Jacobs off

11.Mike Tindall
12.Max Evans
13.Jonathan Davies
14.Dom Waldouck
15.Adi Jacobs
16.Anthony Fainga'a

Best I can think of.

Whats all the fuss about Fruean? Yeah he is a good player and a great partner to SBW, he hasn't got near the ABs yet. How on earth he can be 4th in the world when he hasn't played at the top level, i don't know!

Oh my, just saw Waldouck at 14!

AAC has been the best 13 over the last 18months!

Fruen????? Are you kidding me. Ints alone...

1. AAC
2. Smith
3. Fourie
4. BOD
5.

He's better than SBW when they play together. But in a way I agree.

I wouldn't call AAC best 13, I'd put him behind Fourie + smith

5. Rougerie

Forgot to include Rougerie in both OC and wing ratings

your all muppets - Wilkinson is still mile ahead of many number 10's bar the usual suspects such as Carter.

best team by far would be
1. Banahan
2. Banahan
3. Banahan
4. Banahan
5. Banahan
6. Banahan
7. Banahan
8. Banahan
9. Banahan
10. Banahan
11. Banahan
12. Banahan
13. Banahan
14. Banahan
15. Banahan

16-22 He doesn't need subs

You're the muppet Hon - it's you're not your.

pullthestrings wrote:You're the muppet Hon - it's you're not your.

Ha! Top work.

Did you know that Matt Banahan doesn't do press ups, he just pushes the earth down!

sorry pull your right let me change that, im not stupid

best team by far would be
1. Banahan
2. Banahan
3. Banahan
4. Banahan
5. Banahan
6. Banahan
7. Banahan
8. Banahan
9. Cowan
10. Banahan
11. Banahan
12. Banahan
13. Banahan
14. Banahan
15. Banahan

16-22 He doesn't need subs

hahahah bathite - like it

in fact could start changing all the chuck norris jokes for Banahan

excuse my terrible use of Your etc

of course yore right pull

Well I like Fruean there are some players I don't know whether to class them as a full-back or wing or centre. Like Ashley-Cooper and Rougerie, if you are counting them though...

1.Jaque Fourie
2.Adam Ashley-Cooper
3.Conrad Smith
4.Brian O'Driscoll
5.James Hook
6.Aurelien Rougerie
7.Robbie Fruean
8.David Marty
9.Digby Ioane
10.Stirling Mortlock
11.Richard Kahui
12.Rob Horne
13.Keith Earls
14.Max Evans
15.Jonathan Davies
16.Mike Tindall
17.Reagan King
18.Anthony Fainga'a
19.Adi Jacobs
20.Dom Waldouck

13 is quite strong tbh if you include names who can play in different positions.

dude you have put Dom Waldouck in at 20. even though there are a number of ENglish players that would go ahead of him at the moment? Hape/Tuilagi even Banahan whom are all squad bound?

DId you play front row or something and got so irreversibly damaged that you spout utter tosh all the time now . . . . bit like me?

It is hard to think I would have Manu in 16th then and knock the rest down. He is better than Tindall and King.

it is hard I agree and personal pref comes into it as well

Manu is never better than King + Tindall :L

he's certainly better than wauldouk though and wont be long before hes better than tindal! imo

Yes he is because he plays for Tigers

If anything you argue playing for tigers puts his rankings lower cos the rest around him are so good it's easy for him to look good is the argument from a different perspective

tigers suck

Just like Bath then.

tiger suck more they are proper s h i t e

right guys am off until sunday - is there anything I need to do before then - leaving in ten minutes?

Grow up stop acting childish.

Im off aswell been on the computer long enough.

I don't rate AAC as an outside centre at all. His defence is average at best.

Brilliant 15, but never a 13.

Never heard AAC being described as having average defence Steve. Watch the France v Aus game and tell me he's not a 13. Not been great in a poor team this year mind. Still see a Barnes/AAC midfield come 3N time.

I have watched him more at 13 than 15 but prefer him more at 15.

Watched him being beaten on the outside to easily this season and that's a huge no no for a 13. At 15 however he is a outstanding talent.

He is playing 14 tomorrow for the Brumbies. Would have liked to have seen him v Faainga at 13 to see how he did as Faainga is a natural 13.

Fa'aniga is a 12 isn't he....

He plays both. Was 13 last week and will be 13 tomorrow.

will likely go to 13 permanently if JOC goes to Reds as a 12

Never seen him at 13. Normally Chambers/Iaone I thought...maybe I just never noticed him. Pretty average player in the world of Aus backs

mmmm beer sunshine and iPhone. loves it I does.
have a good weekend one an all. anyone watching the Baabaas tomorrow!!

I will be Hon. Looking forward to seeing the welsh backrow. Some talent there!

Evening.

Very nice weather all over today, but I said I would come on late afternoon and here I am. Looking for some deals of course, and looking by ratings they might certainly help thank you for them.

Bulls v Waratahs is the only real entertainment tonight, unless you want to watch some darts lol. Bulls are fielding a very strong side, but hopefully the Waratahs can turn them over with Kurtley on show

Hon, you need to make one adjustment and put prop_lyd/azam at no 2 then it's a ream of world beaters

Quiet tonight

Anyway Driver, Pullthestrings and Lukelovesluka I have deals to all three of you, if you could get back to me that would be grand. I would prefer if everyone answered to my deals, because im willing to get Toulon off the bottom of the table, and the only way I can possibly do this is by doing domestic deals. They have improved my side a little bit so far, but I need to go a few steps further. Sorry to be pushy, but I really need improvements and I don't want to finish bottom by the end of the season lol.

Thank you

Weakness?
1 Sheridan
2 TPN
3 Hayman
4 Davies
5 Whitelock
6 Kaino
7 Barclay
8 Beattie
9 Cussiter
10 Cooper
11 Ashton
12 Barnes
13 Marty
14 Jane
15 Beale

Having problems picking a weakness, think I've got a load of players all a similar level with a few standouts. Who to improve, Hayman?

My opinion would be tighthead prop and maybe Beattie at 8 :run2:

No weakness for me, think Cus/Cooper would be a great combo..Cus and Genia are very similar styled players.

Beattie is quality, Hayman is still a top TH.

I just think there are better 8's but if he is rated keep him, from some extent I would want him but then again I might feel that I want to improve in that position.

Doesn't really help but it's only your choice, do what you think is best.