Liverpool FC Thread: Numero Deux

by **Crimey** Wed 31 Oct 2012, 11:01 am

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by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 5:11 pm

Good season for sure.

Heskey used to be a beast, I think his later years made people forget just what a good player he was. With Owen that season he was very good, I'd say the equivalent now would be Benteke watching Heskey then.

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 5:15 pm

It's funny seeing what people thought of certain players then, like the young Gerrard.

by **Kenny** Fri 24 May 2013, 5:16 pm

I remember watching the Alaves game in a pub with 2 Leeds Utd fans and going through every emotion possible while these 2 Leeds fans cheered on Alaves

it was so good when that golden goal went in Very Happy

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 5:20 pm

Golden own goal as well.

I always feel sorry for Westerveld, he was a decent keeper, but was just thrown to the side after this season.

Babbel was a good player.

Also amazing how little a role Fowler played this year. Heskey and Owen were too good for him to get in.

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 5:24 pm

The squad seems huge as well, probably the only way we could win three trophies.

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 5:26 pm

Honestly what happened to this Heskey? He's firing off everywhere, looks unplayable. Don't think we ever saw that Heskey again.

by **Kenny** Fri 24 May 2013, 5:28 pm

it was a very decent side that should of been closer to winning the league imo

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 5:31 pm

Kenny wrote:it was a very decent side that should of been closer to winning the league imo

Probably would have been if didn't go so far in all the cups.

It's not that good though, it's filled with quite a lot of average players. Players like Traore, Biscan, Barmby, Song, some other guy with dreadlocks with a strange name... there is obvious quality in there, but it's strange just how many players must have been in the squad.

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 5:33 pm

I've always been one of Heskey's biggest fans.

That season just brings so many great memories. I'd take 2001 to the vault way before 2005. I watched the League Cup final in a packed pub with my brother-in-law who's a Brum fan. They were unlucky that day if I remember correctly?

Definitely watching that later. They were the days...

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 5:36 pm

Gary Mac was immense that year also. At 36 too I believe?

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 5:40 pm

Yeah, he was well old.

Another thing I noticed is players like Heskey and McAllister celebrating against old sides. That is a weird modern phenomena. Especially when it's somebody like Sturridge against Chelsea and City where both teams treat him awfully, you'd think he'd love scoring against them. Fans were abusing him all game as well.

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 5:43 pm

I remember reading a Johan Cruyff article before the UEFA Cup final where he predicted a 0-0 draw and the most boring final in history!

by **Kenny** Fri 24 May 2013, 5:48 pm

I think the average players all did a decent job though , you need some work horses aswell as the stars .

was the dreadlocked gut Pegguy Arphexad the goalie ?

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 5:55 pm

Kenny wrote:I think the average players all did a decent job though , you need some work horses aswell as the stars .

was the dreadlocked gut Pegguy Arphexad the goalie ?

No, I think he might have been a forward or midfielder. He nearly scored an overhead kick at the start of the season.

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 6:00 pm

1 GK Sander Westerveld
23 RB Jamie Carragher
12 CB Sami Hyypia
6 CB Stephane Henchoz
2 LB Markus Babbel
17 RM Steven Gerrard
16 CM Dietmar Hamann
21 CM Gary McAllister
20 LM Nick Barmby
8 CF Emile Heskey
10 CF Michael Owen

Was this a better starting line up than the 2004/5 side? I'd say so.

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 6:03 pm

I'd say so, I think it was stronger in depth as well.

The best first XI from recent memory was 08/09 though.

Reina

Arbeloa
Carragher
Agger
Riise

Mascherano
Alonso

Kuyt
Gerrard
Benayoun

Torres

I think at the time that was the best first XI in the league, just had no depth at all.

by **Kenny** Fri 24 May 2013, 6:03 pm

Crimey wrote:
Kenny wrote:I think the average players all did a decent job though , you need some work horses aswell as the stars .

was the dreadlocked gut Pegguy Arphexad the goalie ?

No, I think he might have been a forward or midfielder. He nearly scored an overhead kick at the start of the season.

Bernard Diomède ?

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 6:04 pm

Kenny wrote:
Crimey wrote:
Kenny wrote:I think the average players all did a decent job though , you need some work horses aswell as the stars .

was the dreadlocked gut Pegguy Arphexad the goalie ?

No, I think he might have been a forward or midfielder. He nearly scored an overhead kick at the start of the season.

Bernard Diomède ?

Yeah, I just found out who it was as well.

He played 2 games for the team. Laugh

by **Kenny** Fri 24 May 2013, 6:11 pm

From what i remember he came with a good rep from France cost £3 mill but wasn't that good when he got here . Think it was the french connection from Houllier

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 6:13 pm

He signed a lot of rubbish did Houillier.

by **Kenny** Fri 24 May 2013, 6:14 pm

yes most of them french Laugh

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 6:15 pm

Or French-speaking, like Diouf and Diao.

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 6:17 pm

Danny Murphy! Manchester United slayer.

by **Kenny** Fri 24 May 2013, 6:17 pm

i never understood why he went for Diouf over Anelka

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 6:27 pm

I always forget that there wasn't a transfer window until 02/03.

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 6:29 pm

Kenny wrote:i never understood why he went for Diouf over Anelka

I don't think anybody did Kenny!

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 7:36 pm

You forget Owen was only 21 this season considering how good he was.

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 7:37 pm

Makes his subsequent decline all the more depressing.

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 7:43 pm

Interesting words from Houllier at the start on Heskey:

"The boy needs to believe in himself and be more selfish"

Something Heskey never really grasped.

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 7:44 pm

FreekShow wrote:Interesting words from Houllier at the start on Heskey:

"The boy needs to believe in himself and be more selfish"

Something Heskey never really grasped.

I'm on the final game now. Heskey was absolutely awesome that season, just below world class I'd say, if he had kept that kind of play up we'd remember him as one of the best strikers the Premier League has seen. I think that season he was better than Owen and Fowler.

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 8:08 pm

Is it me or has Andy Gray's commentating been dubbed out of this video? He definitely covered the Leeds game with Tyler but is not heard!

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 8:28 pm

FreekShow wrote:Is it me or has Andy Gray's commentating been dubbed out of this video? He definitely covered the Leeds game with Tyler but is not heard!

No, he's in some of the United games.

They might have dubbed it out of the original video for some reason.

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 8:30 pm

For the last 45 minutes Heskey has been the best player I have ever seen!

A human wrecking ball!

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 8:36 pm

FreekShow wrote:For the last 45 minutes Heskey has been the best player I have ever seen!

A human wrecking ball!

It's ridiculous how good he was.

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 8:37 pm

Jari Litmanen was always seen by many back then as the final piece of the puzzle for Liverpool.

Never quite worked out for some reason.

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 8:39 pm

Think he was too slow for the Premier League basically.

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 8:41 pm

Crimey wrote:Think he was too slow for the Premier League basically.

Probably. But he was muted as our Sherringham.

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 8:41 pm

Found out today that we tried to sign Alan Shearer in 03/04 when his contract was running out, Houillier saw the signing as McAllister-esque.

We were also apparently offered Ronaldo (of the Cristiano variety) for £4 million, not long before United signed him for £12m, but we saw that as too much and didn't think we needed him after signing Sinama-Pongolle and Anthony Le Tallec. Sad

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 8:43 pm

Yeah the Ronaldo one is quite famous now, if you listen to Phil Thompson anyway!

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 8:47 pm

ANTHONY LE TALLEC!

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 9:01 pm

That ref in the Roma home match had a shocker!

by **Crimey** Fri 24 May 2013, 9:02 pm

I love the way he starts flinging out yellow cards.

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 9:05 pm

We miss only one pen in the shoot out in the League Cup Final and it's a German!

What are the chances? Laugh

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 10:00 pm

That vid brought back some great memories and reminds me what a great season looks like. Top stuff.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 24 May 2013, 10:06 pm

Sander Westerveld was my goalkeeping hero. I even started supporting Real Sociedad as my foreign team as I think he went there

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 10:09 pm

Olly wrote:Sander Westerveld was my goalkeeping hero. I even started supporting Real Sociedad as my foreign team as I think he went there

He weren't bad Olly. Very neat in his attire.

by **Kenny** Fri 24 May 2013, 10:44 pm

and had great hair

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 10:47 pm

Kenny wrote:and had great hair

It was beautiful Kenny!

by **Kenny** Fri 24 May 2013, 10:48 pm

i think i had mine the same at the time Laugh

by **Kenny** Fri 24 May 2013, 11:07 pm

this was in the Metro

Asmir Begovic has confirmed he is on his way to Liverpool this summer and says he hopes the transfer will be completed in the next few weeks.

The Stoke goalkeeper appeared to be close to sealing a switch to Anfield earlier this week, but the move seemingly hit the buffers over a fee.

However, in an interview with the Bosnian media Begovic has confirmed he expects to be a Liverpool player by the time they return for pre-season in early June.

'I'll start preparing on July 10, with all the players of Liverpool,' he said.

It is thought that negotiations are at an advanced stage, with the 25-year-old ready to sign a four-year deal to act as competition to first-choice goalkeeper Pepe Reina.

Stoke had previously slapped a £15million valuation on Begovic, but are believed to be willing to accept something in the region of £6million.

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