Liverpool FC Thread: Numero Deux

by **Crimey** Wed 31 Oct 2012, 11:01 am

For all Liverpool's based discussion.

If you're here just to wind Liverpool fans up, don't bother posting.

by nasisillmatic Wed 31 Oct 2012, 11:53 am

It's funny with Everton because the past couple seasons we always hear about them playing some good football, and possibly have a better team than us. Then every derby Moyes employs the same tactics that haven't really worked against us since he became manager.
They change their style to much more defensive, while looking to disrupt our style of play, rather than use the style whats been working for them in previous games.

I think that's the point Gerrard was trying to make, he may have worded it wrong.

by **hampo17** Wed 31 Oct 2012, 11:59 am

Anyone going to the game? Got a phone call from my mate on Monday offering me a ticket so I'm buzzing, first trip to Anfield since we played Barcelona in 2001!

by nasisillmatic Wed 31 Oct 2012, 12:07 pm

No I'm not going tonight, going Sunday instead.

I wonder what reception Rodgers will get from the Swansea fans.

by **Crimey** Thu 01 Nov 2012, 4:24 am

Ridiculous that Rodgers can cblame the result on a small squad, when Swansea are such a smaller team with less resources than Liverpool.

Shoumd dodnb bettter, even if it is the reserves. 3-1 away from hom agianst Aswnasea, is not a acceptrable result. I'm sorry, but it isn't.

by **hampo17** Thu 01 Nov 2012, 7:16 am

That's just it Crimey it wasn't a reserve team by an stretch of the imagination. Jones, Henderson, Carra, Coates, Allen. Shelvey, Downing are all first team players.

Two thing where very obvious last night Rodgers doesn't have the players to play ths style, Swansea moved the ball so much quicker while most Liverpool players took 30 seconds to make a decision, players didn't look like they wanted the ball, he needs to realise that playing Downing and Assaidi on their unnatural sides doesn't work as defenders just show them down the line and then they're nackered.

by Small Time Thu 01 Nov 2012, 3:09 pm

Crimey wrote:Ridiculous that Rodgers can cblame the result on a small squad, when Swansea are such a smaller team with less resources than Liverpool.

Shoumd dodnb bettter, even if it is the reserves. 3-1 away from hom agianst Aswnasea, is not a acceptrable result. I'm sorry, but it isn't.

Why isn't it acceptable? You haven't been a top team for 20+ years......it seems perfectly acceptable to me that another decent midtable team can come to yours and out play you. Seriously I'm not wumming, you have to recognise that Liverpool are being beaten by a lot of bang average sides.....that in effect makes them average no matter what they've won in the past.

by **hampo17** Thu 01 Nov 2012, 3:48 pm

The goals we conceded last night small time wouldn't have been conceded under Kenny last year I can pretty much guarantee that. For the second goal we had 9 players in their box, we actually left it 3 against 1.

Rodgers needs to realise we don't have the players to play his style and find a middle ground.

by Small Time Thu 01 Nov 2012, 4:11 pm

hampo171 wrote:The goals we conceded last night small time wouldn't have been conceded under Kenny last year I can pretty much guarantee that. For the second goal we had 9 players in their box, we actually left it 3 against 1.

Rodgers needs to realise we don't have the players to play his style and find a middle ground.

Thats what you got him in for though.....to play the Swansea way (of which, as I stated before, he was only 25% responsible for). Perhaps this is what you get when its 100% Rodgers? I've no idea to be honest.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 01 Nov 2012, 10:29 pm

Rodgers is going to need time to install his ideas, but he has never revolutionised a club before, and in fact when he tried at Reading he got sacked. At Swansea he sort of polished off Martinez and Sousa's work.

Saying that I do think given time and money he will pull it off. But I have said before his style isn't fool proof. You are going to leak goals with it tbh

by **Kenny** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 4:33 pm

Quick question

Given the emergence of the younger players so far this season does anyone think that Tom Ince would have made the team had he not been sold to Blackpool ?
I only ask as he seems to of been their star player .

by Lumbering_Jack Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:03 pm

Shameful again by Suarez. Going down like some has just sledge hammered him yelping in pain. Disgrace.

by **hampo17** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:13 pm

Get lost Jack. As I said before people chose to highlight Suarez and nobody else, Demba Ba and Cisse have both reacted in the same way to little knocks but you turn a blind eye to them.

by **hampo17** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:14 pm

Surely Krul needs to be booked, he must have wasted about 3 minutes now.

by Lumbering_Jack Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:18 pm

His behaviour is shameful. He went down with the sole purpose of trying to get a pen and a red card.

Wake up.

by **hampo17** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:19 pm

Are you ignoring the Newcastle players going down in the same way? He did what every other footballer in the world does, you've ignored several Newcastle players doing the same thing.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:20 pm

I have to say as much as I admire Suarez as a player (I think he is a brilliant footballer) I really wish he would clean up his act. He is like a pantomine villain

by **hampo17** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:22 pm

Olly wrote:I have to say as much as I admire Suarez as a player (I think he is a brilliant footballer) I really wish he would clean up his act. He is like a pantomine villain

I'm not arguing he goes down easily Olly, every player does. But Jack who apparently wants to clear the game up of this sort of thing fails to see his own team doing the same thing.

by Lumbering_Jack Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:22 pm

Could you imagine if Suarez was kicked liked Simpson was off Sterling. He'd of been stretchered off.

by **hampo17** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:23 pm

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Could you imagine if Suarez was kicked liked Simpson was off Sterling. He'd of been stretchered off.

You ignoring the previous question then? Deluded.

by **hampo17** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:25 pm

GET IN!!! Fully deserved goal, we've controlled this game from the start, need to go on and win this now.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:26 pm

hampo171 wrote:
Olly wrote:I have to say as much as I admire Suarez as a player (I think he is a brilliant footballer) I really wish he would clean up his act. He is like a pantomine villain

I'm not arguing he goes down easily Olly, every player does. But Jack who apparently wants to clear the game up of this sort of thing fails to see his own team doing the same thing.

I wouldn't say every player does tbh. I'm not an idiot, I know some Norwich players such as Holt and Snodgrass go down easy but not all players do.

Now that is the Suarez we need to see every week. I just wish he would let his football do the talking because he is a brilliant brilliant player. I know this being a Norwich fan, seeing him score 6 goals in 2 games against us Laugh

by **hampo17** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:27 pm

by Lumbering_Jack Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:30 pm

I'm trying to ignore you, Hampo, given the first thing you said was get lost. I don't wish to debate with an ignorant runt like you.

Thanks

by **hampo17** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:30 pm

I said get lost because what you said was silly, haven't been insulting however.

by **hampo17** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:41 pm

Dirty bugger, deserved a red card. Could have broke his leg.

by Lumbering_Jack Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:42 pm

Disgusting. I hope someone breaks his leg so he understands what it is like to be fouled.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:43 pm

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Disgusting. I hope someone breaks his leg so he understands what it is like to be fouled.

That was a red card and that is a disgusting comment.

by **hampo17** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:44 pm

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Disgusting. I hope someone breaks his leg so he understands what it is like to be fouled.

Pretty silly comment wishing that on anyone Jack. Was an awful challenge, surely you don't think it was the wrong decision?

by **hampo17** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:46 pm

Doesn't matter the intent was enough for a red card, Suarez is lucky he didn't make full contact.

by Geordie Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:48 pm

Yellow card....but once again Suarez goes down like he was shot. There wasn't even any contact...he should join the Olympic diving team....

by **hampo17** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:49 pm

The intent got him in the red card, if I go in two footed and miss I will still get sent off because of the intent in my challenge. Red Card was the right decision and your skipper has let you down.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:51 pm

Sorry Newcastle lads but as a neutral that was a red card. Stop looking for the old "it was Suarez" excuse that was a very poor challenge by Coloccini which is uncharacteristic for him

by Lumbering_Jack Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:51 pm

What does matter is that no contact was made. He is a disgrace.

by Geordie Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:51 pm

It was one footed.....Suarez cheated again....hes a disgrace to the prem....

by **hampo17** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:52 pm

Got to love the bias from you Newcastle lads, you where lucky to get a point today so enjoy it.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:53 pm

Full Time it has made no difference to the outcome of the match.

That was a red card. Stop looking at the old Suarez excuse because it isn't a valid one at all.

by Lumbering_Jack Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:54 pm

No luck about it, we scored the same amount as you.

by Lumbering_Jack Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:55 pm

Olly wrote:Full Time it has made no difference to the outcome of the match.

That was a red card. Stop looking at the old Suarez excuse because it isn't a valid one at all.

It could've been mike Tyson for all I care. Still cheated to get a man sent off.

by **hampo17** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:56 pm

Frustrating day again for us, good quite easily have won that game but didn't create enough chances first half however the second half was fantastic. If we play that like every week we'll start getting the wins.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 5:56 pm

Lumbering_Jack wrote:
Olly wrote:Full Time it has made no difference to the outcome of the match.

That was a red card. Stop looking at the old Suarez excuse because it isn't a valid one at all.

It could've been mike Tyson for all I care. Still cheated to get a man sent off.

IT WAS A RED CARD TACKLE! Take your bloody tinted glasses off and realise that. I ain't even a Liverpool fan, heck I can't usually stand Liverpool but that was a red card tackle. End of.

by Lumbering_Jack Sun 04 Nov 2012, 6:02 pm

Not end of you ignorant moron, this is a forum, people are allowed different opinions. Mine is that Suarez feigns injury to draw cards, or are you telling me his pain in genuine?

by **hampo17** Sun 04 Nov 2012, 6:04 pm

Keep the insults to yourself Jack.

by Guest Mon 05 Nov 2012, 2:59 pm

It was a red card. Thought Newcastle were comfortable in the first half and took the lead. Second half we lost Perch, Demba and Cabaye and without Tiote we were obviously going to get outplayed.

Newcastle been playing appaling this season and to go to Liverpool and gain a draw was a good result. Liverpool look woeful and without Suarez you look embarrasing and inept of any ideas.

Suarez is a disgrace though. It's ridiculous watching a game and seeing him diving and cheating his way through every game, it's embarrasing. He's a wonderful talent but his antics are shocking and I was glad that Colo tried to destroy him. The amount of times he's pushed over and pretends his leg is broken, for his to just jump to his feet within 5 seconds is appaling.

He is a cancer in the game, no question.

by **hampo17** Mon 05 Nov 2012, 3:19 pm

You where happy that a player nearly suffered a potential leg breaking challenge?

The way Suarez goes down is no different from any other player in the world football today, not sure how he is the main culprit in all of this.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 05 Nov 2012, 3:22 pm

hampo171 wrote:You where happy that a player nearly suffered a potential leg breaking challenge?

The way Suarez goes down is no different from any other player in the world football today, not sure how he is the main culprit in all of this.

I'm sorry Hampo Suarez does make a lot more of it than other players do. I will stick up for him in that he isn't the only one who dives, but he does make it a lot more dramatic than most do

by Guest Mon 05 Nov 2012, 3:24 pm

I never said i wanted to someone get a broken leg, i just said that i was glad colo just gave him a bit of a hit. why would i want to see a broken leg? his constant cheating though and diving is disgraceful. If the ball doesnt go his way he's on the floor. Colo did him but it was hardly a leg breaking challenge, barely brushed him if you look at the angle from behind.

Liverpool as a team have big issues though, thought you were appaling

by **hampo17** Mon 05 Nov 2012, 3:26 pm

He is very lucky it wasn't a leg breaking challenge, a few inches to the left and that's his season over not sure how people can't see this.

He is no worse than players like Busquets, Ronaldo, Drogba, Nani, Young, yet people chose to single out Suarez and ignore others. Even Ba and Cisse where at it yesterday.

Not sure how we where appalling either, from memory you had one clear cut chance and the goal. Besides that you didn't create an awful lot, where as we controlled possession and created alot more chances either down the wings through Suso and Sterling or through Suarez.

by liverbnz Mon 05 Nov 2012, 3:27 pm

I think that sums up football fans perfectly. A potentially leg-breaking challenge is excused and falling on the floor is a 'cancer'. Idiotic.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 05 Nov 2012, 3:31 pm

hampo171 wrote:He is very lucky it wasn't a leg breaking challenge, a few inches to the left and that's his season over not sure how people can't see this.

He is no worse than players like Busquets, Ronaldo, Drogba, Nani, Young, yet people chose to single out Suarez and ignore others. Even Ba and Cisse where at it yesterday.

Not sure how we where appalling either, from memory you had one clear cut chance and the goal. Besides that you didn't create an awful lot, where as we controlled possession and created alot more chances either down the wings through Suso and Sterling or through Suarez.

I'm not saying he is the only one Hampo, but I would say him and Busquets are the worst.

I think you played well, but you have to start picking up results as well as playing well. I mean we are only one point behind you Shocked

BTW Suarez is playing some beautiful football at the moment. That goal was a thing of beauty. He is finally starting to live up to his goalscoring record in Holland

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