Ten reasons Armstrong will always be a hero!!

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1. Anybody who wins the Tour de France once let alone seven times deserves huge respect..
2. He's American.
3. He had less than a 30% chance to live and went through hell and lived to tell the tale..
4. Number 1 again x100 after cancer!!
5. His team basically sacked him at his lowest ebb and in his darkest hour...
6. He dabbled in an age that was saturated by the stuff so it was hardly "cheating"
7. After the French stance before and during the Iraq war I'm glad someone screwed them over!!
8. He's saved lot's of lives and raised huge amounts for good causes...
9. He's the ultimate warrior!!!
10. It's a great film with Bo Derek in!!

But there isn't any doubt about Lance.......

Plenty about the Tyson case..........

There is doubt but he has a criminal conviction so does 2Pac and they both enjoy hero status so Armstrong will be no different people will still support him. The great work he did with Livestrong should never be forgotten

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:But there isn't any doubt about Lance.......

Plenty about the Tyson case..........

But.........but..........but.......he never failed....a......test

I'll ignore the wum............

Sugar.......Whilst I concede he has a criminal conviction...If many dispute it I hardly see why it's worth the paper it's written on..

No doubt about 2Pac though and he still enjoys hero status so I totally understand the point you were making.

I dont think Bolt is doping... the guy doesnt even take cough medicine!!!
I dont particularly like him, but I dont think he is "using"

As for Jamaica ADA, not really surel why you so pessimistic. Blake & Fraser-Pryce have tested positive, so its not Dopaz Paradise.

The Tyson case was a joke really.Don King arranged a tax attorney to be Tysons lawyer! Tupac was a gangsta rapper, so any jail time was always going to improve him popularity-wise. Armstrong is a Texan... Once South Park and SNL do their parodies, we will know exactly where Yanks stand with him. As they say comedy is the window into a nations psyche.

Jamaican anti doping doesn't do out of competition testing. The meeting where Blake et al tested positive was about the first time that JADCO did any real in-competition testing themselves and a whole bunch went down.

These early teething problems (i.e. actually catching people) has since been ironed out and now they're a non-effective PR machine like they were supposed to be.

It's interesting that Angel Heredia (Memo), the BALCO chemist, is refusing to answer any questions as whether he's been working with the clean Jamaican squad (including Bolt) as a 'strength and conditioning advisor'. You would think he would just deny it if it isn't true, or confirm it if there wasn't something sketchy going on.

But surely Bolt being an Olympic athlete gets WADA testing out of season?
Look all I am saying is I couldnt see Bolt doping. He has been good forever. Also he has the injuries you would expect from a clean 6'5 sprinter. Its sad for Carl Lewis' excuses to be acceptable, but a guy who hasnt tested positive is doubted.

re Blake- the substance he tested positive for wasnt banned. While Fraser-Pryce claimed she tested positive due to a toothache pain killer. If you believe Lewis, then this has to be Gospel!

Regardless, the matter is about Armstrong, not Jamaican athletes

kingraf wrote:I dont think Bolt is doping... the guy doesnt even take cough medicine!!!
I dont particularly like him, but I dont think he is "using"

As for Jamaica ADA, not really surel why you so pessimistic. Blake & Fraser-Pryce have tested positive, so its not Dopaz Paradise.

The Tyson case was a joke really.Don King arranged a tax attorney to be Tysons lawyer! Tupac was a gangsta rapper, so any jail time was always going to improve him popularity-wise. Armstrong is a Texan... Once South Park and SNL do their parodies, we will know exactly where Yanks stand with him. As they say comedy is the window into a nations psyche.

thats pretty deep for an 18yo.

Cant tell if youre being serious or taking the mickey out of me

kingraf wrote:Cant tell if youre being serious or taking the mickey out of me

Ah a bit of both I spose.