Wales vs Samoa KO 19:30 Fri 16th Nov - Match Thread/Build Up etc....

[HERSH]

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WALES V Samoa

Venue: Millennium Stadium Cardiff Date: Friday, 16 November Kick-off: 19:30 GMT

Coverage: Live on BBC One Wales & online; live on S4C; live commentary on BBC Radio Wales & online; live commentary on Radio Cymru

Seeing as no one has started a thread yet I thought I would.

Enjoy the discussion.

Leigh Halfpenny
Alex Cuthbert
Ashley Beck
Jamie Roberts
George North
Dan Biggar
Mike Phillips
Paul James
Richard Hibbard
Aaron Jarvis
Bradley Davies
Ian Evans
Ryan Jones (Capt)
Justin Tipuric
Toby Faletau

REPLACEMENTS:
Ken Owens, Gethin Jenkins, Scott Andrews, Luke Charteris, Sam Warburton, Tavis Knoyle, Rhys Priestland, Scott Williams

Samoa:
F Autagavaia (Northland)
P Perez (Eastern Province)
G Pisi (Northampton)
P Williams (Stade Francais)
D Lemi (Worcester, captain)
T Pisi (Suntory)
K Fotuali'i (Ospreys)
S Taulafo (Wasps)
O Avei (Bordeaux-Begles)
C Johnston (Toulouse)
D Leo (Perpignan)
T Paulo (North Harbour)
O Treviranus (London Irish)
M Fa'asavalu (Harlequins)
T Tuifua (Newcastle)

Replacements: T Paulo (Clermont Auvergne), V Afatia (Agen), J Johnston (Harlequins), F Lemalu (Mont de Marsan), T Fomai (Hawke's Bay), J Su'a (Tasman), J Leota (Sale), R Lilomaiava (Laulii).

[AFewTooManyKnocks]

Pisi's territorial kicking has been sublime and the Samoan forwards have been physical. Aside from that they have been a little inaccurate with missed kicks, penalties at breakdown, and an intercept try. They've allowed Wales to compose themselves

[Biltong]

Samoa should start using there arms in the tackle, nothing but shoulders so far,
If that was a South African everyone would be calling thug and the IRB would give a massive ban.

Ala justice4bakkies

[thebluesmancometh]

wlaes

Tips has been non existant, and in this game he was always going to be non existant.

IMHO 120 minutes against limited opposition (no offence) and not 1 line break, or 22 visit. VERY WORRYING!!!

[Guest]

Taylorman, this game is only on welsh tv, not across the whole of GB. I think that's why the commentary is a bit more biased. During the 6N you tend to get a commentator from one of the nations playing and then a pundit/co-commentator from the other nation. Here, we just have the main commentator and JD as the co-commentator, and he is brought in for that very reason - to give the ex player welsh point of view to the welsh audience. If people are choosing to surf the channels to pick up welsh tv then fair enough, but I don't think it should be slated too much. I don't turn on American Football from the states and expect a British flavour!

[wales606]

Charteris to start the second half

did they say Bradley was injured?

[thebluesmancometh]

We'll see what wales are made of by how they come out for the 2nd half, if they are lacklustre, and docile ala the last 120 minutes they are beaten.

If they come out eyes on stalks, and get into the physical stuff they have a chance!

[thebluesmancometh]

wales

Evans not comng out

[wales606]

wales

Evans not coming out

Oh dear, I thought Bradley had a poor half. :/

[Biltong]

Taylorman, this game is only on welsh tv, not across the whole of GB. I think that's why the commentary is a bit more biased. During the 6N you tend to get a commentator from one of the nations playing and then a pundit/co-commentator from the other nation. Here, we just have the main commentator and JD as the co-commentator, and he is brought in for that very reason - to give the ex player welsh point of view to the welsh audience. If people are choosing to surf the channels to pick up welsh tv then fair enough, but I don't think it should be slated too much. I don't turn on American Football from the states and expect a British flavour!

Griff, Davies is always biased, irrespective of the Audience, he doesn't know how not to be biased.

[justified sinner]

I'm watching on S4C, as far as I can tell the commentary's been fine, if gibberish.

[kingjohn7]

Savage forearm with intent, that's not a sport I'm interested if that's deemed ok.
Can't see why we chuck them the cash to be honest. If they can't behave, they should be left out in the cold.

I agree. If we are playing a nation that is poorer than ours then they should be made to toe the line.

[thebluesmancometh]

wales

I'd argue Bradley has been our best forward by a mile, very physical at the breakdown and picking and going making yardage

[wales606]

Halfpenny having an excellent game. We just need some of our forwards to have one, Mike Phillips is a better forward than most of them at the moment.

[Gibson]

BBC, DO something about Davies' voice FFS. Give him a lozenge or a drop of whiskey & honey. Or preferably an extra-strength sleeping-tablet. Its grating.

[thebluesmancometh]

1/2p forearm smash to the chop!

[wales606]

Halfpenny injured

Great....

Can we stop playing this SSIs before we play NZ/Aus...thank you.

[EngInAuck]

Nothing wrong with that tackle from pisi

[Pot Hale]

Second half, and Samoa continue where they left off fouling at the breakdown.

Kick takes Wales upfield. Easy taken the lineout and ball moves out. Wales secure and go through a couple more phases. Another breakdown and Samoa win the ball but ref gives Welsh scrum confusingly.

[Duty281]

Just shut up Davies.

[Guest]

Sort it out you pr!k they haven't made one clean tackle

[thebluesmancometh]

All this crap regarding a welsh comentator on welsh tv... come on!!

[Guest]

Bil, that's sort of my point. Here in the UK and Ireland the way we seem to present rugby, e.g. The 6N, is to have someone from each nation to represent their country. So, on 6 weekend you'll see JD, Keith Wood, Andy Nicol and Jeremy Guscott, all 4 'home' nations. No coincidence that those pundits commentate on their own game. They're there to be the spokesman for their country. If it's done differently in your neck of the woods then so be it. More than one way to skin a cat.

[Duty281]

Lol, Wales take the ball up the middle and Davies says "go on", then Wales knock the ball on and Davies says nothing. Might as well get a Welsh fan in the commentary box.

[bsando]

Oh will you just SHUT UP JONATHAN DAVIES!!!!

Rant over!

Good game this!

[thebluesmancometh]

Wales have come out as soft as they were in the first and they are definately in trouble!!!

[Guest]

I'm watching on S4C, as far as I can tell the commentary's been fine, if gibberish.

Disrespectful.

[Guest]

Samoa boring in the scrum now

[EngInAuck]

Samoa have always tackled hard , can't speak for every tackle in the game but Pisistratus used both arms , 1/2p just ducked into the tackle , I can't see the problem

[Pot Hale]

Good scrum by Samoa! Relieving penalty won.

[wales606]

Samoa have always tackled hard , can't speak for every tackle in the game but Pisistratus used both arms , 1/2p just ducked into the tackle , I can't see the problem

Halfpenny didn't duck, he just isn't very tall

[kingjohn7]

Great try

[AFewTooManyKnocks]

Nice try

[thebluesmancometh]

Jarvis just got mullered but in all fairness it wasnt a legal mullering.

Another easy try, ref 'leave it blue hands off blue' Samoa pick it up and go...

[Duty281]

Try for Samoa!

[wales606]

In touch wasn't he?

[mckay1402]

wasn't a high tackle for me. took him at the shoulder

[Guest]

Hands of blue but its ok if you have it anyway

[Taylorman]

Taylorman, this game is only on welsh tv, not across the whole of GB. I think that's why the commentary is a bit more biased. During the 6N you tend to get a commentator from one of the nations playing and then a pundit/co-commentator from the other nation. Here, we just have the main commentator and JD as the co-commentator, and he is brought in for that very reason - to give the ex player welsh point of view to the welsh audience. If people are choosing to surf the channels to pick up welsh tv then fair enough, but I don't think it should be slated too much. I don't turn on American Football from the states and expect a British flavour!

Fair enough. Its not the point of view I was annoyed at, its more the willing the players on from the box at a personal level. Try Samoa?

[kingjohn7]

ooh, in touch thank fook

[Gibson]

Great try.

[wales606]

Hands of blue but its ok if you have it anyway

:/

[Duty281]

It's a Mark Cueto moment, I think his left foot is marginally in touch.

[wales606]

*sigh*

13 - 15

[kingjohn7]

ooh, in touch thank fook

Or not. Nice try.

[Guest]

Poor play from the ref

[Pot Hale]

And they're in for a second by a lick of paint.

[Duty281]

But it's been given, not too sure about that. 13-15 now for Samoa, which they deserve on the balance of play.

[G2]

Great acrobatics for the try but what’s happened to Wales’s scrum?

[Taylorman]

By jumping over his own player - leapfrog- was he accidentally offside?

[Shifty]

God this is pathetic from Wales, what the hell happened to the fire and passion in our players? It's like they won the last grand slam and suddenly decided to stop trying

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