Can we all behave please.

First topic message reminder :

Guys, I understand the Autumn Internationals is a time where emotions can run high and disappointment can often turn into accusations, wums, negative threads etc.

But really the amount of unacceptable vitriol that has been hanging about since last night is immature and pathetic.

I am asking nicely that we start posting threads that can be contributed to in a positive manner, I will be discussing the behaviour of a number of posters with the admins tomorrow, any further continuance of negative vitriol will be punishable by bans, repeat offenders will suffer worse fates.

Thank you for your cooporation in this regard.

Red_Dragon_Spirit wrote:

TJ wrote:Biltong - you would be well advised to drop it. Mods do not argue especially over moderation decisions

TJ.. why aren't you a mod... you are showing to much common sense here...

Biltong, I'm not quite sure you'd want me to highlight these in public, the comments are in a thread that has been deleted for very good reasons. I'm fairly sure you know the one I'm talking about.

Anyway, I need to make a move, work in the morning and all that. Will pick this up again tomorrow.

Then PM me. I am intrigued.

Same principles apply - A mod has to stand above it. Redrooster has made his point. I have no idea how right he is but to discuss it further in public is not wise in my view

No mate, he has made an accusation, he is welcome to PM me, I am first and foremost a poster, there after when the situation requires it a Moderator.

In that case drop being a mod would be my advice. Its very hard to be both especially if you want to get involved in arguement

I'm with TJ on this one biltong, though I can also see why you now can't leave it. tough one there mate, you want to defend your posts which are being questioned, but then again as TJ said maybe it's not wise for mods to enter too much into these type of posts. I think it must be hard to have two hats on in one forum,. as a mod and as a keen poster. Because it's all just words on a screen it is so easy to misread anyone's posts, and once someone got in in their head that a post is whatever, because it is not a convo over a beer in a pub it is impossible to tell what the tone of the post is. Humour is one thing I found impossible for me to put across for example on here.

I find you a very forthright poster, and although I do disagree on some of your comments as a poster, that I thought is what a forum is all about, no fun if we're all barricking for the same thing. But to have to answer a charge that your post is obscene or distastful I think you'll struggle, cause no matter how you put your defence the accuser wil still stand by their viewpoint.

Although I do find myself curious as to what these posts wil be... ah I know, must be anyone you wrote that said the boks wi'l beat the wallabies!!! of course!!!

Well I think rather than carry on debating these issues, perhaps the time has come for me to take my leave.

No you shouldn't do that mate!!! Don't know who Red_Dragon_Spirit is, but unless you know he's a troll, whatever that is, a term I heard used here quite a lot, and you're following the example of don't feed them, I think you should answer him. For me I have never found any of your posts obscene or distasteful, some I can see could be a bit open to debate, but that's the point of these forums. Leaving now may just put you at risk, the next day from new posters, of agreeing with him? Don't you think so?

Biltong wrote:Well I think rather than carry on debating these issues, perhaps the time has come for me to take my leave.

That would be silly Biltong. You do a good job as mod, and you can't expect to please everyone all the time. In interest of full disclosure (and hoping you don't take offence) I thought your thread about the citing of Eben Etzebeth was petulent and really rather silly. By all means stick up for your countrymen, but the way you posted was melodramatic and over the top. Some of things that have been posted on the New Zealand-Wales incident was hardly worse than that thread. However, people aren't perfect and it was isolated. You are a passionate fan, nothing wrong with that. I'm sure you wouldn't have to look too hard through my back catalogue to find an In Through the Out Door amongst them. But your post wasn't a WUM, and that is all too often the case here and increasingly so.

I stated it before and other posters have also stated that who made the decision re: the 606v2 journal post from Glas was wrong. It was a WUM. It wasn't even sophisticated, and it wasn't witty or amusing. If the purpose of this forum is going to be to advertise 'controversial' opinion pieces then whoever made the decision has completely lost the run of the purpose of this board in the first place. If you want to do controversial journalism go and get a job somewhere else. There are plenty of journalists that do the same job and few people have any respect for them, and if 606v2 continues down that road then fewer people will respect this place either. It does nothing to raise the credibility of this place as a forum if mods are telling posters 'naughty naughty', then allowing posts that are equally as bad just to promote another product of theirs. It's pretty poor in truth.

Obviously Biltong you didn't make that choice and I am not pointing the finger at you, I am just raising the issue and this seemed an appropriate place to do it.

Hookisms and Hyperbole . . .

Something tells me that you're the target of a slightly more subtle wind-up, Biltong.

We're all grown-ups on this board. I've read comments on here as part of banter or long exchanges that might be viewed by some as salacious, lewd, irreverent, irreligious, rude, obscene, possibly even defamatory (in relation to some referees!)

And no, I'm not going to provide examples. Or cite anyone in particular because there isn't anyone in particular. It's part and parcel of the normal discourse on this forum. And on plenty of other forums I visit.

Occasionally, someone might cross over the line, but for the most part, people get picked up on their writing behaviour/commentary and it gets sorted by mob or mod rule. Most of those who make a mistake, recognise it and things move on. There's always one or two who won't play ball. And they never last.

I think the moderators do a great job on here generally, particularly because people do it in their own spare time with no remuneration. I did it for three or four years on another sports forum and know that it can sometimes be a thankless task.

In my view, I'd drop the conversation and forget about it. Go relax on that cruiser for a while and have a beer or coffee or something.

Cheers for your time and effort.

I signed up to the forum here recently because there are some good contributions, by people from several parts of the world, who love the game.

There's some history I'm not aware of, and I'm sure it's exasperating for longstanding members and the moderators.

However, there are still plenty of people posting insightful and funny thoughts for the whole exercise to be very worthwhile. Thanks for that.

PJHolybloke wrote:

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:Hang in there Biltong.

I echo fa0019's comments. I find it disappointing that an article based mainly on speculation and generalisation gets promoted as a showpiece of V2 whereas other posts of equally poor taste get locked. I'd love to hear Glas a du say what he wrote to Andrew Hore's face.

Why? He'd only wait till his back was turned. (That's a joke to balance out your thinly veiled threat of violence by the way )

Honestly, Glas wrote what he did to balance out some of the usual suspect's vitriol, I found it quite astonishing that he was essentisally told by one poster to button his lip in order to not "fan the flames" of said usual suspects trolling.

Now that's an interesting angle.

I'd also like to apologise for any inconvenience I've caused the moderating team this weekend, I'll try harder to ignore the trolls.

Thinly veiled threat of violence? Eh? My point was the post contravenes rule number 10 that you shouldn't say anything to somebody you wouldn't say in public. I'm not implying Andrew Hore should hit him as you insinuate. I'm implying he could sue him for slander. I'm sorry that wasn't made clear enough. Andrew Hore's in enough trouble without adding another case of assault!

Adam D wrote:Can I just thank everyone who has stuck up for billing and mods in general.

As pointed out it is a thankless task and he has done great tonight.

As for the article, it was my decision to publish it on the journal. I felt it was an opinion piece that merited discussion ( targeting of a player) and also controversy gets US viewers!

Just because a majority might disagree doesn't mean you have to do so in a immature and Neanderthal manner. The majority of you get this and debate the point not the poster - well done!

There's a reason why the majority disagree and it has nothing to do with being immature and Neanderthal. Look at the thread and you will see posters from around the world criticising the ill-advised speculation of an individual's player's actions and the generalising of an entire nation.

If you want controversy to get US viewers, then I suggest there are plenty of WUMs you can approach. Glas a du is a good writer and can be used to promote V2 in a much more positive way than this. If it is your decision to publish it, then I must express my discontentment and disappointment with that choice.

1st up, I'll apologise for bringing this up in public.

2nd I have PM'd Biltong with my reasons,

3rd Posting and modding don't mix well.

4th I ain't no Troll.

5th, started packing my bags

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:

PJHolybloke wrote:

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:Hang in there Biltong.

I echo fa0019's comments. I find it disappointing that an article based mainly on speculation and generalisation gets promoted as a showpiece of V2 whereas other posts of equally poor taste get locked. I'd love to hear Glas a du say what he wrote to Andrew Hore's face.

Why? He'd only wait till his back was turned. (That's a joke to balance out your thinly veiled threat of violence by the way )

Honestly, Glas wrote what he did to balance out some of the usual suspect's vitriol, I found it quite astonishing that he was essentisally told by one poster to button his lip in order to not "fan the flames" of said usual suspects trolling.

Now that's an interesting angle.

I'd also like to apologise for any inconvenience I've caused the moderating team this weekend, I'll try harder to ignore the trolls.

Thinly veiled threat of violence? Eh? My point was the post contravenes rule number 10 that you shouldn't say anything to somebody you wouldn't say in public. I'm not implying Andrew Hore should hit him as you insinuate. I'm implying he could sue him for slander. I'm sorry that wasn't made clear enough. Andrew Hore's in enough trouble without adding another case of assault!

In which case I misunderstood, sorry. "I bet you wouldn't say that to my face." Is a term that I usually associate with a slap, as that's what I mean when I use it.

Biltong, don't go pal, there's some serious holier-than-thou grandstanding going on here.

Red Dragon, how can you expect Mods not to be posters? They don't get paid, so it stands to reason that they have to have another vested interest in the forum ie they post on it. No need to pack your bags either, mate.

Red_Dragon_Spirit wrote:1st up, I'll apologise for bringing this up in public.

2nd I have PM'd Biltong with my reasons,

3rd Posting and modding don't mix well.

4th I ain't no Troll.

5th, started packing my bags

In response to your point 3, bearing in mind that this is a non-profit forum (the ads pay the site hosting costs), how do you expect to find a group of moderators who are prepared to give up their time for free as well as their right to post on subjects that interest them? Because quite frankly I wouldn't have a clue. If you expect me to keep on putting an hour or 2 each day into moderation and not be "allowed" to post then I'm afraid my response wouldn't get past the swear filter.

I joined this site because I'm passionate about rugby. I volunteered (for my sins) to be a moderator because the rugby section needed one, and I wanted to keep on discussing rugby with the people on here. I then got asked to join the admin team and I accepted, again because I like this place and you lot (most of the time ).

All our mods are passionate about rugby. I think it makes them better mods than the faceless BBC old ones because they understand the game. We all have our biases and our hot-button subjects, and that's why we have a group of mods from different countries in the interests of balance and contrasting styles.

Biltong wrote: But really the amount of unacceptable vitriol that has been hanging about since last night is immature and pathetic.

Ahh the one night i spend in with the Mrs to be subjected to an utterly appauling rom-com and i miss all the shinannigans. The Rugby gods have been cruel to me twice in one weekend

I called in here last night for about 20 minutes, and as soon as my back was turned the place turned into mayhem.

aucklandlaurie wrote:
I called in here last night for about 20 minutes, and as soon as my back was turned the place turned into mayhem.

Yeah ive largely stayed away as well. Predictable with the events last weekend...

PJHolybloke wrote:
Red Dragon, how can you expect Mods not to be posters? They don't get paid, so it stands to reason that they have to have another vested interest in the forum ie they post on it. No need to pack your bags either, mate.

Of course moderators can post - but if they get involved in heated arguments or personal exchanges they lose credibility as moderators. Ythats the point. Moderators have to be seen as impartial and as standing above the petty rows that can happen

[quote="aucklandlaurie"]
I called in here last night for about 20 minutes, and as soon as my back was turned the place turned into mayhem.[/quote
]

Whilst your efficiency was in some ways admirable can you T least try to be funny like awop in future when trolling the site

[quote="Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler"]

aucklandlaurie wrote:
I called in here last night for about 20 minutes, and as soon as my back was turned the place turned into mayhem.[/quote
]

Whilst your efficiency was in some ways admirable can you T least try to be funny like awop in future when trolling the site

rugby's not a laughing matter, its very serious.

The problem is still that the mods are not even handed in their approach to problem posters. I brought it up six months ago and was told I was the problem for complaining. When the mods protect and condone trolling, genuine posters stop coming here. Enough people have said in this thread they dont come here much anymore because the mods dont censure fairly for it to be clear there is a problem.

I note that you banned the welsh poster for posting inflammatory trolls. Did you ban the kiwi who was just as abhorrent with his trolling or do we see yet again its one rule for mods mates and another for the rest of us?

I stopped coming here for a few months myself and when I return the same people are causing the same problems and nothing is being done. To trot out the same old excuse "its not straightforward" is frankly an insult to our intelligence and as for this site being one of the best moderated, a claim made in this thread well thats just laughable.

Sort out the trolls fairly and when someone cops a life ban dont allow them back under a different name cos they are mates. Certainly dont condone sombody posting in pidgin english when it is clear to everybody they are trying to troll.

But was amusing for a time though Tycros, I didn't know the person concerned about any previous identity.

I think some of the people on here that other posters have complained about do put in some quote funny post. For sure some too were over the top wind ups, but surely (and stop calling me surely) only if they make personal attacks against another poster should they be punished? I enjoy reading everybody's posts, finding myself nodding or sometimes tut tutting... and even some of the more outrageous winding up ones can be very amusing. Someone here said to another post ages ago about the annoying people, we have an ignore button that means we can be shielded posts from people we don't like, isn't that a better defense than barring them? If enough people voted to ignore some posters, the poster will get no response and boredom then will surely effect their departure?

Personal attacks are bad, 100% agree. But winding up posts or contankeous ones, all subjective of course, can always just be ignored.

My 2c worth

Gees I was just thinking how relatively WUM free this place was during the AIs and how it was maturing into a sensible online community who could discuss topics, debate and banter with minimum intervention from the MODS.......

...did I miss something?....

Yeah but Oz when some people cop a ban whilst others get a pat on the head and are told they are amusing there is a real problem. Its the lack of even handedness by the mods that is the problem imo, its got steadily worse this year. To then be told I was the problem for complaining about it six months ago, was a case of shoot the messenger. Its especially galling when I have never recieved even a mild warning for my posting.

TycroesOsprey wrote:The problem is still that the mods are not even handed in their approach to problem posters. I brought it up six months ago and was told I was the problem for complaining. When the mods protect and condone trolling, genuine posters stop coming here. Enough people have said in this thread they dont come here much anymore because the mods dont censure fairly for it to be clear there is a problem.

I note that you banned the welsh poster for posting inflammatory trolls. Did you ban the kiwi who was just as abhorrent with his trolling or do we see yet again its one rule for mods mates and another for the rest of us?

I stopped coming here for a few months myself and when I return the same people are causing the same problems and nothing is being done. To trot out the same old excuse "its not straightforward" is frankly an insult to our intelligence and as for this site being one of the best moderated, a claim made in this thread well thats just laughable.

Sort out the trolls fairly and when someone cops a life ban dont allow them back under a different name cos they are mates. Certainly dont condone sombody posting in pidgin english when it is clear to everybody they are trying to troll.

Again can you explain why someone who has openly admitted to trolling the site is in a position to cast stones? A lot of people find your style of "banter" frankly annoying and at times offensive.

You wont agree with all decisions, but if you think this is some sort of open consiracy aginst Welsh people then thats frankly a reflection on you.

Its this excessive partisanship thats created the problems in the first place, some of it put on to get the rise out of people or satirise, others because they genuinely appear to beleive its acceptable to goad, mock, and make nationalistic attacks on people in an apparently serious way.

Whether its the "hang em and flog" excessive outrage everytime Wayen Barnes tip tackles an Irishman or the branding of Richie Mccaw as a serial r***ist just for having the audcity to be assaulted its the excessively extreme views and intranchable argumentative unbending views that create the nastiness and cause what was eitehr light hearted joking or serious attempts to understand and debate.

Ive had my own run in witha mod recently, and recieved an abussive and theratneing mesage simply for asking an honest question due to a smisunderstanding of tone. It got sorted, we have an understanding. Now its the source of amussemnet. I did throw a breif hissy fit, and did consider quitting...then I got over myself. The guys here are doing there best to balance out the various styles of postes (inclduing myself and my "jaunty" sense of humour"). They decided to give a group of posters who seemed determined to bring back the old style bickering from v1 a chance and the line got crossed, things have been clamped down on again. Now i found Roger funny at times ...but obviously hes taken it too far, deal with it. Move on. get on with your life, Im sure he will....even if that life is posting abussive comments on youtube videos.
Spending your days trying to be offended by people and trying to get them banned doesnt help at all. Theres does seme to be a Holly Wilaboobie for tat desperation from certain people to wind others up in an attempt to get them banned, the sad thing being that this is just feeding the troll and giving them what they want anyway.

Short answer...chill the f out

I can see you point, and yes that must be annoying.

Which is why I suggest we don't ban anyone, unless they post personal attacks. and let's us just use the ignore button if we don't like someone's style, that case we don't actually see any of their posts. this is what I have been lead to think the ignore option does.

rodders wrote:Gees I was just thinking how relatively WUM free this place was during the AIs and how it was maturing into a sensible online community who could discuss topics, debate and banter with minimum intervention from the MODS.......

...did I miss something?....

I agree, mate. Excepting the occasional over the top thread/comment, I would have agreed with you. I think I still do.

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:

TycroesOsprey wrote:The problem is still that the mods are not even handed in their approach to problem posters. I brought it up six months ago and was told I was the problem for complaining. When the mods protect and condone trolling, genuine posters stop coming here. Enough people have said in this thread they dont come here much anymore because the mods dont censure fairly for it to be clear there is a problem.

I note that you banned the welsh poster for posting inflammatory trolls. Did you ban the kiwi who was just as abhorrent with his trolling or do we see yet again its one rule for mods mates and another for the rest of us?

I stopped coming here for a few months myself and when I return the same people are causing the same problems and nothing is being done. To trot out the same old excuse "its not straightforward" is frankly an insult to our intelligence and as for this site being one of the best moderated, a claim made in this thread well thats just laughable.

Sort out the trolls fairly and when someone cops a life ban dont allow them back under a different name cos they are mates. Certainly dont condone sombody posting in pidgin english when it is clear to everybody they are trying to troll.

Again can you explain why someone who has openly admitted to trolling the site is in a position to cast stones? A lot of people find your style of "banter" frankly annoying and at times offensive.

You wont agree with all decisions, but if you think this is some sort of open consiracy aginst Welsh people then thats frankly a reflection on you.

Its this excessive partisanship thats created the problems in the first place, some of it put on to get the rise out of people or satirise, others because they genuinely appear to beleive its acceptable to goad, mock, and make nationalistic attacks on people in an apparently serious way.

Whether its the "hang em and flog" excessive outrage everytime Wayen Barnes tip tackles an Irishman or the branding of Richie Mccaw as a serial r***ist just for having the audcity to be assaulted its the excessively extreme views and intranchable argumentative unbending views that create the nastiness and cause what was eitehr light hearted joking or serious attempts to understand and debate.

Ive had my own run in witha mod recently, and recieved an abussive and theratneing mesage simply for asking an honest question due to a smisunderstanding of tone. It got sorted, we have an understanding. Now its the source of amussemnet. I did throw a breif hissy fit, and did consider quitting...then I got over myself. The guys here are doing there best to balance out the various styles of postes (inclduing myself and my "jaunty" sense of humour"). They decided to give a group of posters who seemed determined to bring back the old style bickering from v1 a chance and the line got crossed, things have been clamped down on again. Now i found Roger funny at times ...but obviously hes taken it too far, deal with it. Move on. get on with your life, Im sure he will....even if that life is posting abussive comments on youtube videos.
Spending your days trying to be offended by people and trying to get them banned doesnt help at all. Theres does seme to be a Holly Wilaboobie for tat desperation from certain people to wind others up in an attempt to get them banned, the sad thing being that this is just feeding the troll and giving them what they want anyway.

Short answer...chill the f out

Where have I openly admitted to trolling the site? I havent trolled this site at all and as for it being a conspiracy against the welsh I havent claimed that at all? When have I been offensive Peter? Roger being banned is fine if he deserved it but there must be even handedness in the approach by the mods regardless of nationality or friendship. You wont find rants about McCaw or Hore from me over the weekend, you didnt find rants by me during the six nations or RWC after the Warburton card and this really isnt about nationality as far as I am concerned. As for trying to get people banned all I am doing is pointing out the same old disparity in posting and moderation is still here and that when people are allowed to return from lifetime bans and resume posting and trolling then it makes a mockery of the modding team and the site.

As for walking away from the site, I and a lot of others did, as is evidenced from this thread. Wouldnt it be better to keep the posters who dont troll incessantly as opposed to allowing those that do run amok and ruin what was once a really excellent place to come and discuss rugby?

I'm sorry I missed all the rancour...it must have been good (ahem - bad ) to have such comments this morning!! I was in at the weekend off and on and all I saw was the same stuff as usual - nothing exceptionally vicious or belligerent, indeed none at all if I'm being really honest.

Of course I'm not suggesting there wasn't that stuff going on, there must have been if Biltong felt he had to write this one I'm just wondering on what threads it was all happening ............

Anyway,............ if I might - I do have to say that this new 'Chelsea' over-sensitivity to verbal rubbish seems to be a growing issue in this 'online' world. It seems that if you're not a cyber bully on any of the social tools (Twitter/Facebook and forums etc) or being a victim of cyber bullying then you're just an old out-of-date has-been using chat apps for ancient purposes - ancient things like simply talking about things in a calm and balanced way, not getting all pent up with rage if someone says Boo to you, having some fun with various conflicting ideas and attitudes, switching off and getting on with your real life without planning the ruination and downfall of the guy who said your Nation doesn't have the players that will ever enter a world top 15.

I know Mods have a job to do - and a thankless one at times. And there are a rare few eejits who can take robust banter into the realms of the personal attack (I've had call to involve the mods in this regard two or three times myself) - so I'm not saying the raw bile doesn't happen. Mostly though, if we all decided we're going to try to not over-react in an over-sensitive way to general verbal garbage, then the mods would actually have less to do - as over-reactions are the oxygen the real vicious guys crave. You don't react in the way the envisage and they lose their power quickly and lose interest too.

doctor_grey wrote:

rodders wrote:Gees I was just thinking how relatively WUM free this place was during the AIs and how it was maturing into a sensible online community who could discuss topics, debate and banter with minimum intervention from the MODS.......

...did I miss something?....

I agree, mate. Excepting the occasional over the top thread/comment, I would have agreed with you. I think I still do.

Good man DG

Look I think if you look at the threads that are causing the problems they are nearly always by a small handful of posters who are deliberately out to wind people up.

Banning people is a fairly quick fix rather than a definitive solution as these people usually end up back under a different guise anyways.

I really think people need to look at themselves and ask if they are inflaming the situation and playing into the WUMs hands. There is an ignore button and even better people can just actually ignore threads and comments by posters they don't like....like you do see some posters gravitate to each other like moths to a lamp and just have the same circular arguments again and again.

Even with in the WUMS a lot (but not all) of it isn't actually malicious or offensive and sometimes people need a bit of a sense of humour and perspective...

Oh an Biltong does a great job as a MOD and as a poster he should be afforded the seem freedom as expression as everyone else. You'd hope that the MODs would be consistant, even with other MODs though. This place would be a damn site poorer without Biltong posting though....

Rodders..so you're trying to deny you wrote that incendiary thread entitled "Ulster Butchers makes Munster Turkeys Nervous"?

SecretFly wrote:Rodders..so you're trying to deny you wrote that incendiary thread entitled "Ulster Butchers makes Munster Turkeys Nervous"?

Damn I was saving that one for Xmas eve ......

I seldom post threads,ceretainly not WUMS,and treat EVERY post as valid.I try to be objective to all aspects of the thread concerned then voice MY opinion of it.I come here to debate not be called an idiot because I don`t agree on a certain subject.Just because my view differs from someone elses,nor doI attack other posters for there`s.On only one occassion have I given REAL offence and that involved politics,.sport/and ,Rugby.When I may have gone over the top for that I made a public and humble apology here.My opinion is as valid as any but I don`t get involved in slanging matches.I do have a tendency to post to many facts and figures from my long memory of the sport which irritates some here.

I hope that you havent left Biltong. We dont agree on everything but we have some great debates and banter.

I think that (even as a Mod) you have every right to defend your posting style, just as much as anyone else on here would.

I love posting on this forum and the knowledge and insights i have gained from numerous posters has been very beneficial. Even in the WUM threads and comments i have also picked up a few little comical gems.

Everyone just needs to take a little break and try to get their humour back

eirebilly wrote:I hope that you havent left Biltong. We dont agree on everything but we have some great debates and banter.

I think that (even as a Mod) you have every right to defend your posting style, just as much as anyone else on here would.

I love posting on this forum and the knowledge and insights i have gained from numerous posters has been very beneficial. Even in the WUM threads and comments i have also picked up a few little comical gems.

Everyone just needs to take a little break and try to get their humour back

+1

"Everyone just needs to take a little break and try to get their humour back"

+2

+ 3

I used to Mod for a online gaming group, me and the others used to have what we called the Ban/Tard Hammer....

it was a great graphic and the forum had its own banned list thread where Mods posted bans and reasons. there was a seperate thread where people would come in and grovel to be unbanned.

Don't forget that online gaming would have server bans for the games too and the forums were locked out for guests apart from the Welcome, About us, Servers and Banned threads

the ban hammer was mighty and total

HERSH wrote:"Everyone just needs to take a little break and try to get their humour back"

+2

Are you suggesting you should be banned for a few weeks to give everyone time to calm down?
Good solution, they should make you a mod

don't encourage him PSW!!!!

I feel too many people on this forum miss the intended irony of many of the posts to which they respond, they react to the literal but miss the humorous or rhetorical expressions underlining the posters' stated points of discussion. Or am I being obtuse? (I'm being ironic by the way.)

Biltong and I go back a bit and I consider him a friend and hope he feels the same.

That didn't stop him banning me for 24 hours the other day for being abusive.



Typical feckin Saffer...

I can see why you thought that PJHolybloke. Not the best choice of phrase. But just goes to show how wires can be crossed and offence can be taken when none is intended.

I think that is a reasonable idea myself. Used on other forums

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:
Just by way of a general warning, for the next couple of weeks we'll be trialling a tweak to our moderation system - basically if you're making a bit of a dick of yourself don't be surprised if you cop a 24 hour instant ban to help keep temper levels down.

Excellent! More power to your elbow Sir!

How come you said 'dick' I am very offended, see you in 24 hours Pete

"You're nothing but a F8*%ing Rot................................"


24 HOUR BAN

24 hours later:

".... ten eejit with no idea about the finer points of Rugby analysis!!!!!"


Oh dear, we will have addicts showing that even a 24 hour special won't stop them mid sentence