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Post by ShahenshahG Thu 29 Nov 2012, 4:19 pm

http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/sport/story/181499.html

Possible fight next summer. However

Tysons got his eyes set elsewhere

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/181154.html

Also Brook looks lin line for Vegas


http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/sport/story/181381.html


Slowly but surely.


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Post by Mr Bounce Thu 29 Nov 2012, 4:23 pm

I think this will happen if Fury loses to Johnson. If he wins, then he will claim he has bigger fish to fry.

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Post by eddyfightfan Thu 29 Nov 2012, 4:44 pm

why should price's promoter promote it? and what kind of split are they on about because a 50/50 request from prices camp would be ridiculous

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 29 Nov 2012, 5:30 pm

Why is 50:50 ridiculous for Price-Fury?

Price is the bigger draw and has more titles. If Fury's team wanted all the control they should've gone to purse bids when Price was his mandatory.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Thu 29 Nov 2012, 6:01 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:Why is 50:50 ridiculous for Price-Fury?

Price is the bigger draw and has more titles. If Fury's team wanted all the control they should've gone to purse bids when Price was his mandatory.

Unfortunately Fury and his team will never pick Price and he clearly avoided Price so why would he fight now.

Fury has fought and in some cases struggled with bums. He was wobbled twice by an oversight delboy, he was put on his arse byba powder puncher and should have lost his 1stbfightbwith Big John.

Ironically, Price blew John out of the water, battered a good heavyweight in Sexton and blitzed Harrison quicker than Haye did.

Price is a bigger draw like you said, so why people somehow state Fury is worth more cut, is beyond me.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 29 Nov 2012, 6:06 pm

It isn't going to happen If Fury loses to Johnson....

because one defeat isn't career threatening but two in a row and he might as well forget it..

Fight won't happen until they are both more mainstream end of..

Price for me........

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Post by no-mas Thu 29 Nov 2012, 6:56 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:Why is 50:50 ridiculous for Price-Fury?

Price is the bigger draw and has more titles. If Fury's team wanted all the control they should've gone to purse bids when Price was his mandatory.

Disagree TopHat
1) Price is the bigger draw? - Fury is on 5 being watched by millions, Price is on boxnation being watched by a few thousand
2) Price has more titles, titles Fury dropped. Also Fury has the higher rankings in the alphabet world
3) If Fury's team wanted all the control they should've gone to purse bids - Fury offered Price a huge sum to fight on channel 5 but they rejected it, Fury dropped the belts to protect his channel 5 contract, i dont blame him for that because as mentioned he is getting mainstream attention and being watchedby millions, Price should be thankful for this because when Fury goes off on one about Price more people know who he is (Price)

i would like to see the fight and i dont buy into this Fury ducked Price, when at the centre of it Fury was on channel 5 and at the time Price was on sky (also if Fury was a ducker why did he sign to face Chisora? and please dont come at me with Chisora came in as a Whale because how was Fury to know that? he was a massive underdog and got the job done). And i also dont buy into the view that Price will handle Fury easily, i see it as quite even, people say he beat Mcdermott better than Fury, Mcdermott was a whale against Price and he rushed in looking for the big shot he doesnt have. (Same thing people say about Chisora Vs Fury)

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Post by eddyfightfan Thu 29 Nov 2012, 9:49 pm

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TopHat24/7 wrote:Why is 50:50 ridiculous for Price-Fury?

Price is the bigger draw and has more titles. If Fury's team wanted all the control they should've gone to purse bids when Price was his mandatory.

Unfortunately Fury and his team will never pick Price and he clearly avoided Price so why would he fight now.

Fury has fought and in some cases struggled with bums. He was wobbled twice by an oversight delboy, he was put on his arse byba powder puncher and should have lost his 1stbfightbwith Big John.

Ironically, Price blew John out of the water, battered a good heavyweight in Sexton and blitzed Harrison quicker than Haye did.

Price is a bigger draw like you said, so why people somehow state Fury is worth more cut, is beyond me.

come on fury beats bums (chisora, firtha, pavjik) but price has won good opposition like sexton and harrison? double standards. price hasnt even had a fight where he's made to work, there are issues like heart, chin, stamina, adapting, dealing with pressure that price hasnt even faced yet, at least fury is somewhat proven in all these areas, if not massively.

for me you have to beat the man to be the man, and unless its for the british title (which i doubt) fury has beat more and better opponents, has 2-3 credible wins and has had more exposure- hence price taking the lesser cut.

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Post by PPVxHOTTY Thu 29 Nov 2012, 10:16 pm

My money would go on Fury, I think people miss the figures and are judging the purse over method of victories. Just because Price is ko'ing guys early dosen't mean he deserves bigger purse, its all bout who carries more bargaining power.

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Post by tunes666 Thu 29 Nov 2012, 10:47 pm

Price would knock Fury out in 3/4 rounds. I think Fury is decent and offers exciting fights but I just don't think he is world class, Price on the other hand looks like he can go all the way, if his chin don't let him down, he will take some beating.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 30 Nov 2012, 10:05 am

no-mas wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Why is 50:50 ridiculous for Price-Fury?

Price is the bigger draw and has more titles. If Fury's team wanted all the control they should've gone to purse bids when Price was his mandatory.

Disagree TopHat
1) Price is the bigger draw? - Fury is on 5 being watched by millions, Price is on boxnation being watched by a few thousand
2) Price has more titles, titles Fury dropped. Also Fury has the higher rankings in the alphabet world
3) If Fury's team wanted all the control they should've gone to purse bids - Fury offered Price a huge sum to fight on channel 5 but they rejected it, Fury dropped the belts to protect his channel 5 contract, i dont blame him for that because as mentioned he is getting mainstream attention and being watchedby millions, Price should be thankful for this because when Fury goes off on one about Price more people know who he is (Price)

i would like to see the fight and i dont buy into this Fury ducked Price, when at the centre of it Fury was on channel 5 and at the time Price was on sky (also if Fury was a ducker why did he sign to face Chisora? and please dont come at me with Chisora came in as a Whale because how was Fury to know that? he was a massive underdog and got the job done). And i also dont buy into the view that Price will handle Fury easily, i see it as quite even, people say he beat Mcdermott better than Fury, Mcdermott was a whale against Price and he rushed in looking for the big shot he doesnt have. (Same thing people say about Chisora Vs Fury)

Hi no-mas, are you still angry at me over-looking you on that thread the other day?? Smile

Seriously though, I think we'll have to just disagree:

1) Price is the bigger draw. Fury gets watch by more fight fans on tele because he's on a free to air channel. That's just a different promotional choice. To equate the two you would have to balance the fact that everyone watching Price has paid for the privelege, which is surely worth more in the 'draw' stakes than casual freeview viewers. Put it this way, Fury getting watched by 4-5 million is probably similar (or greater even) figures to Carl Froch who is on a pay-only channel in Sky - would you ever say Fury was a bigger draw than Froch? I believe Price is also a bigger ticket seller to his events, which is surely the greatest testament to 'draw' factor, with Fury struggling to fill against Rogan (I think I remember one of the Irish lads on here saying that) whereas Price does a good job packing out the Echo.

2) The fact Fury dropped them does not work in his favour. Price was mandatory and, spin it any way you like, Fury ditched rather than defend. And the simple fact is, right now, Price is the legitimate title holder of the better belts - therefore he holds sway over Fury who is, essentially, the challenger in this scenario. It's the same as David Haye's bargaining power v the K's was totally different after he faked and injury and won a world strap before coming back to the table.

3) Addressed the purse bids point already, if his offer was really that impressive (or even 'real' in the first place) then surely they could've gone to purse bids made the same offer and won giving them all the control? Re 'doing Price a favour', when you're 6'8" and knocking people out for fun in the opening rounds you don't need some loud-mouth gypsy who punches himself in the face and is dropped by dross to do your PR.

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Post by Union Cane Fri 30 Nov 2012, 10:08 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:Re 'doing Price a favour', when you're 6'8" and knocking people out for fun in the opening rounds you don't need some loud-mouth gypsy who punches himself in the face and is dropped by dross to do your PR.

Sensible, reasoned argument there as usual.

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What is it about Fury that gets you so hot under the collar Tophat? Did he kick you off the dodgems once or something?
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Post by no-mas Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:05 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:
no-mas wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Why is 50:50 ridiculous for Price-Fury?

Price is the bigger draw and has more titles. If Fury's team wanted all the control they should've gone to purse bids when Price was his mandatory.

Disagree TopHat
1) Price is the bigger draw? - Fury is on 5 being watched by millions, Price is on boxnation being watched by a few thousand
2) Price has more titles, titles Fury dropped. Also Fury has the higher rankings in the alphabet world
3) If Fury's team wanted all the control they should've gone to purse bids - Fury offered Price a huge sum to fight on channel 5 but they rejected it, Fury dropped the belts to protect his channel 5 contract, i dont blame him for that because as mentioned he is getting mainstream attention and being watchedby millions, Price should be thankful for this because when Fury goes off on one about Price more people know who he is (Price)

i would like to see the fight and i dont buy into this Fury ducked Price, when at the centre of it Fury was on channel 5 and at the time Price was on sky (also if Fury was a ducker why did he sign to face Chisora? and please dont come at me with Chisora came in as a Whale because how was Fury to know that? he was a massive underdog and got the job done). And i also dont buy into the view that Price will handle Fury easily, i see it as quite even, people say he beat Mcdermott better than Fury, Mcdermott was a whale against Price and he rushed in looking for the big shot he doesnt have. (Same thing people say about Chisora Vs Fury)

Hi no-mas, are you still angry at me over-looking you on that thread the other day?? Smile

Seriously though, I think we'll have to just disagree:

1) Price is the bigger draw. Fury gets watch by more fight fans on tele because he's on a free to air channel. That's just a different promotional choice. To equate the two you would have to balance the fact that everyone watching Price has paid for the privelege, which is surely worth more in the 'draw' stakes than casual freeview viewers. Put it this way, Fury getting watched by 4-5 million is probably similar (or greater even) figures to Carl Froch who is on a pay-only channel in Sky - would you ever say Fury was a bigger draw than Froch? I believe Price is also a bigger ticket seller to his events, which is surely the greatest testament to 'draw' factor, with Fury struggling to fill against Rogan (I think I remember one of the Irish lads on here saying that) whereas Price does a good job packing out the Echo.

2) The fact Fury dropped them does not work in his favour. Price was mandatory and, spin it any way you like, Fury ditched rather than defend. And the simple fact is, right now, Price is the legitimate title holder of the better belts - therefore he holds sway over Fury who is, essentially, the challenger in this scenario. It's the same as David Haye's bargaining power v the K's was totally different after he faked and injury and won a world strap before coming back to the table.

3) Addressed the purse bids point already, if his offer was really that impressive (or even 'real' in the first place) then surely they could've gone to purse bids made the same offer and won giving them all the control? Re 'doing Price a favour', when you're 6'8" and knocking people out for fun in the opening rounds you don't need some loud-mouth gypsy who punches himself in the face and is dropped by dross to do your PR.

Im still at little sore at the over-looking the other day but it will heal in time Wink if i may i would like counter your offering:

1) Fury IS the bigger draw because he is free to air, and you cant say Price is bigger because people pay to watch him, people who wanted box nation already had it, he joined later because he was dropped by Sky, which begs the question, if he is such a draw surely sky would have done all that is possible to keep him. Also Price packs out the Echo? why is he fighting at Aintree today then?

2) Fury ditched rather than lose a good thing on Channel 5. Price is the legitiment holder of the belts, Fury is in a better position for a world title shot, he is number 3 with the WBC, Price is number 12 and in all other Organisations where they are both ranked, Fury is higher. Fury has held the British and Commonwealth titles and Irish titles and he beat Martin Rogan who beat both Harrison and Skelton who are Prices last two opponents!

3) I have gone over the purse bids time again so cant be bothered going through it again, i will agree to disagree.

NEW POINT - Price bores me to tears, dont know wether i am bias being a good mancunion, but his interviews are boring, his fighting still will get boring (yes he KOs people now but when he moves up a level he will be WK mark 2 and look how people complain about his style) at least Fury gives you excitment and funny interviews.

i await your reprisal boxing

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Post by Steffan Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:08 am

I hope Fury wins this matchup if they do fight. He did not duck Price I wish the anti-Fury gang would stop saying this

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:21 am

Union Cane wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Re 'doing Price a favour', when you're 6'8" and knocking people out for fun in the opening rounds you don't need some loud-mouth gypsy who punches himself in the face and is dropped by dross to do your PR.

Sensible, reasoned argument there as usual.

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What is it about Fury that gets you so hot under the collar Tophat? Did he kick you off the dodgems once or something?

Be as facetious as you like UC, makes my comment no less pertinent or accurate.

If Tyson had never mentioned the gypsy thing it'd barely get a mention but he traded off it heavily in his early career therefore he has validly opened himself up for abuse on it.

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Post by Union Cane Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:25 am

Nonsense.
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Post by no-mas Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:29 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:
Union Cane wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Re 'doing Price a favour', when you're 6'8" and knocking people out for fun in the opening rounds you don't need some loud-mouth gypsy who punches himself in the face and is dropped by dross to do your PR.

Sensible, reasoned argument there as usual.

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What is it about Fury that gets you so hot under the collar Tophat? Did he kick you off the dodgems once or something?

Be as facetious as you like UC, makes my comment no less pertinent or accurate.

If Tyson had never mentioned the gypsy thing it'd barely get a mention but he traded off it heavily in his early career therefore he has validly opened himself up for abuse on it.

That is because its his heritage, his fan base, its no worse than Price playing on the fact hes a scouser, then again you wouldnt want either knocking on your door really Whistle

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Post by Union Cane Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:31 am

Union Cane wrote:Nonsense.

Sorry that wasn't particularly verbose, I just find it strange that a normally level-headed well-rounded reasonable poster gets in such a state whenever Fury is mentioned.
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Post by superflyweight Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:32 am

Does anyone have the actual viewing figures for the Fury fights on Channel 5?

Not necessarily doubting the figures quoted but would almost be pleasantly surprised that boxing is pulling in those kind of numbers on a fairly minor (albeit free to air) channel.

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Post by no-mas Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:34 am

Union Cane wrote:verbose

You changed man!


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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:34 am

Did he punch himself in the face? Yes.
Does he have a gypsy background? Yes.
Did he use it as a promotional tool in his early career? Yes. (watched a Sky promo with him taking them on tours round his caravan collection, he also loved playing "I'm a gypsy, fighting's in my blood" card.)
Is he a loud-mouth? Yes. See recent televised-live homophobic rant re Price and Bellow.
Was he dropped by dross? Yes. By a guy who'd only ko'd 1 out of his last 10 opponents.
Is Price 6'8"? Yes.
Is this massive? Yes.
Is he talented/does he have pedigree? Yes. Including amateur win over Fury.
Is he knocking out everyone in he fights in the first few rounds? Yes. TKO/KO's in 1,4,1,2,1 rounds in his last 5.

Is there any reason to suggest Price would be struggling for plaudits and recognition if not for Fury? No.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:34 am

Union Cane wrote:
Union Cane wrote:Nonsense.

Sorry that wasn't particularly verbose, I just find it strange that a normally level-headed well-rounded reasonable poster gets in such a state whenever Fury is mentioned.

Note objective fact-based post below (above).

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Post by Union Cane Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:37 am

Erm
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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:38 am

superflyweight wrote:Does anyone have the actual viewing figures for the Fury fights on Channel 5?

Not necessarily doubting the figures quoted but would almost be pleasantly surprised that boxing is pulling in those kind of numbers on a fairly minor (albeit free to air) channel.

Problem with viewing figures is, as I've only recently found out, they are apparently only based on aggregated samples which are 'grossed up' to indicate what the whole nation would be viewing if everyone followed to same viewing pattern as the sample.

Could be wrong. Hope so as I always liked the idea that someone knew exactly what show every tele was tuned into, but it does seem unlikely.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:39 am

Union Cane wrote: Erm

Feel free to correct any factually incorrect statements UC.

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Post by Union Cane Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:46 am

No, no, your list of pro-Price facts is correct.

You've neglected to mention that Price was dropped by Fury, lost to an Italian policeman, has never had his chin tested as a pro, etc etc etc, I would go on but I am not an obsessional loony.
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Post by no-mas Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:47 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:Did he punch himself in the face? Yes.
Does he have a gypsy background? Yes.
Did he use it as a promotional tool in his early career? Yes. (watched a Sky promo with him taking them on tours round his caravan collection, he also loved playing "I'm a gypsy, fighting's in my blood" card.)
Is he a loud-mouth? Yes. See recent televised-live homophobic rant re Price and Bellow.
Was he dropped by dross? Yes. By a guy who'd only ko'd 1 out of his last 10 opponents.
Is Price 6'8"? Yes.
Is this massive? Yes.
Is he talented/does he have pedigree? Yes. Including amateur win over Fury.
Is he knocking out everyone in he fights in the first few rounds? Yes. TKO/KO's in 1,4,1,2,1 rounds in his last 5.

Is there any reason to suggest Price would be struggling for plaudits and recognition if not for Fury? No.

Did he punch himself in the face? Yes. - Yes that was funny
Does he have a gypsy background? Yes. - No argument here
Did he use it as a promotional tool in his early career? Yes. (watched a Sky promo with him taking them on tours round his caravan collection, he also loved playing "I'm a gypsy, fighting's in my blood" card.) - Yes but what is wrong with that? How many times does liverpool get mentioned everytime price fights.
Is he a loud-mouth? Yes. See recent televised-live homophobic rant re Price and Bellow. The rant was funny and beneficial to Price, because people would have been interested to see who Fury was talking about (also i wouldnt say homophobic, it was an off the cuff remark, doesnt make him scared of gay people)
Was he dropped by dross? Yes. By a guy who'd only ko'd 1 out of his last 10 opponents. - again agreed, Khan was dropped by Willie Limond and Michael Gomez, he still went on to be a Champion. Plus it shows Fury can get up and fight on, something we havent seen from Price yet (also fighting dross? as i mentioned he beat Martin Rogan by KO who himself KO'd Price's next opponent)
Is Price 6'8"? Yes. - Yes
Is this massive? Yes. in what way?
Is he talented/does he have pedigree? Yes. Including amateur win over Fury. Yes he does have pedigree and his win was over a green and younger Fury who apparently held his own, plus this is the Pros not the amatuers
Is he knocking out everyone in he fights in the first few rounds? Yes. TKO/KO's in 1,4,1,2,1 rounds in his last 5. again Not disputing that, but as you say about Furys opponents, he is fighting Dross!

Is there any reason to suggest Price would be struggling for plaudits and recognition if not for Fury? No.

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Post by superflyweight Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:47 am

I would go on but I am not an obsessional loony. .

You do have some obsessional/borderline autistic tendencies, Union.

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Post by no-mas Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:48 am

Union Cane wrote:No, no, your list of pro-Price facts is correct.

You've neglected to mention that Price was dropped by Fury, lost to an Italian policeman, has never had his chin tested as a pro, etc etc etc, I would go on but I am not an obsessional loony.

You have definately changed!!

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Post by Union Cane Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:53 am

Hoping to find one of these under the Christmas tree this year....

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Post by Union Cane Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:54 am

superflyweight wrote:
I would go on but I am not an obsessional loony. .

You do have some obsessional/borderline autistic tendencies, Union.

The borderline is way behind me mate.

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Post by Rowley Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:56 am

Union Cane wrote:
superflyweight wrote:
I would go on but I am not an obsessional loony. .

You do have some obsessional/borderline autistic tendencies, Union.

The borderline is way behind me mate.

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You keep telling yourself that mate, there are enough of us on here can remember the reverse linear and Joe Gans threads.

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Post by Steffan Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:56 am

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Well fellas id love to stay and watch this debate but iv got my final seminar of 2012 in 10 minutes being taken by the most gorgeous Candian PhD student ever. I think I love her

Then its over to the Union bar (student not Cane) to get wasted on £1.59 a pint of lager. Have a good one folks

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Post by Union Cane Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:58 am

Rotherham Joe Gans wrote:You keep telling yourself that mate, there are enough of us on here can remember the reverse linear and Joe Gans threads.

I like lists and patterns. Does that make me autistic?
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Post by no-mas Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:59 am

Union Cane wrote:Hoping to find one of these under the Christmas tree this year....

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i dont like how low down that 'come and try' question is Erm Anyway Union the way your going i think you would want another one of these for xmas
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Post by School Project Fri 30 Nov 2012, 12:21 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:It isn't going to happen If Fury loses to Johnson....

because one defeat isn't career threatening but two in a row and he might as well forget it..

Fight won't happen until they are both more mainstream end of..

Price for me........

Truss is spot on with this, the fight doesn't need to happen now anyway. I've said it before and will continue to:

Go their seperate ways, obtain Euro belts/Interim belts etc etc - Big fight in 2 years. Think how much money would be made if the build up is for two BIGGER names in the sport?

I would rather see Price and Fury go for the likes of Robert Helenius and Kubrat Pulev (both Euro-Level fighters as they've both held the belt). Then go on to fight when there's more interest in it.

Price will win every time so there's no rush for Tyson to be beat yet.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 30 Nov 2012, 3:01 pm

Union Cane wrote:No, no, your list of pro-Price facts is correct.

You've neglected to mention that Price was dropped by Fury, lost to an Italian policeman, has never had his chin tested as a pro, etc etc etc, I would go on but I am not an obsessional loony.

All correct. I'm not Az, won't deny any of them. Still does not make any of my original statement incorrect.

Would add that not having his chin tested is hardly a point of derision, the fact he's been swotting away like flies people Fury is getting tagged by is not a reason to favour Tyson.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 30 Nov 2012, 3:13 pm

no-mas wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Did he punch himself in the face? Yes.
Does he have a gypsy background? Yes.
Did he use it as a promotional tool in his early career? Yes. (watched a Sky promo with him taking them on tours round his caravan collection, he also loved playing "I'm a gypsy, fighting's in my blood" card.)
Is he a loud-mouth? Yes. See recent televised-live homophobic rant re Price and Bellow.
Was he dropped by dross? Yes. By a guy who'd only ko'd 1 out of his last 10 opponents.
Is Price 6'8"? Yes.
Is this massive? Yes.
Is he talented/does he have pedigree? Yes. Including amateur win over Fury.
Is he knocking out everyone in he fights in the first few rounds? Yes. TKO/KO's in 1,4,1,2,1 rounds in his last 5.

Is there any reason to suggest Price would be struggling for plaudits and recognition if not for Fury? No.

Did he punch himself in the face? Yes. - Yes that was funny
Does he have a gypsy background? Yes. - No argument here
Did he use it as a promotional tool in his early career? Yes. (watched a Sky promo with him taking them on tours round his caravan collection, he also loved playing "I'm a gypsy, fighting's in my blood" card.) - Yes but what is wrong with that? How many times does liverpool get mentioned everytime price fights.
Is he a loud-mouth? Yes. See recent televised-live homophobic rant re Price and Bellow. The rant was funny and beneficial to Price, because people would have been interested to see who Fury was talking about (also i wouldnt say homophobic, it was an off the cuff remark, doesnt make him scared of gay people)
Was he dropped by dross? Yes. By a guy who'd only ko'd 1 out of his last 10 opponents. - again agreed, Khan was dropped by Willie Limond and Michael Gomez, he still went on to be a Champion. Plus it shows Fury can get up and fight on, something we havent seen from Price yet (also fighting dross? as i mentioned he beat Martin Rogan by KO who himself KO'd Price's next opponent)
Is Price 6'8"? Yes. - Yes
Is this massive? Yes. in what way?
Is he talented/does he have pedigree? Yes. Including amateur win over Fury. Yes he does have pedigree and his win was over a green and younger Fury who apparently held his own, plus this is the Pros not the amatuers
Is he knocking out everyone in he fights in the first few rounds? Yes. TKO/KO's in 1,4,1,2,1 rounds in his last 5. again Not disputing that, but as you say about Furys opponents, he is fighting Dross!

Is there any reason to suggest Price would be struggling for plaudits and recognition if not for Fury? No.

Agreed - in a laugh AT him, not with him way.
OK.
Nothing wrong, per se, but as a don't like gypsies as I think they are backward tax-dodging scum I understandably will curse him for it (if he wants to make a thing of it, note I don't care about Billy-joe Saunders).
Homophobia isn't a 'fear' of gays, it's a unjustified derision and I find it particularly unpleasant. Another reason to dislike the guy, for me.
He managed to get dropped by someone we know can't punch. Price took on a puncher in Towers and flattened him.
Ok.
Meant as in it's the kind of size that'll get him talked about, i.e. it's a little out of the ordinary, was ref the whole "he'd need Fury to get noticed" point.
Agreed on all counts.
Ok. Dross and dross. Not massively bothered about disputing that, not calling Price the next Ali, or Lennox even. Just saying he's dealt with similar standard opponents in a more devasting fashion - HW boxing is the marquee sport, to see massive guys knock each other out. Get a big guy doing that so impressively will always attract people, he doesn't "need" Fury to help his PR when he's doing that.

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Post by no-mas Fri 30 Nov 2012, 3:44 pm

Nothing wrong, per se, but as a don't like gypsies as I think they are backward tax-dodging scum (im sure there is a liverpool joke in there somewhere)
Homophobia isn't a 'fear' of gays, it's a unjustified derision and I find it particularly unpleasant. Another reason to dislike the guy, for me - Again i welcome your opinion but i think it was overblown, he called him and his gay lover Tony Bellew (Neither of whom are gay) didnt really critisize homosexuals, My gripe is why its one rule for one and not another i.e. if he said you and your FAT friend, no one would have batted an eye lid, but because he said gay it was a disgrace, for me it was off the cuff and quite amusing.

He managed to get dropped by someone we know can't punch. Price took on a puncher in Towers and flattened him. - Think that might be an error, he never fought Towers, if you mean Dallas, he took it at 2 days notice PLUS Dallas has since drawn to a jouneyman (he should have lost) and lost to Skelton and in Prizefighter

Ok. Dross and dross. Not massively bothered about disputing that, not calling Price the next Ali, or Lennox even. Just saying he's dealt with similar standard opponents in a more devasting fashion - HW boxing is the marquee sport, to see massive guys knock each other out. Get a big guy doing that so impressively will always attract people, he doesn't "need" Fury to help his PR when he's doing that - Again i agree with your comment, but you have to admit, thanks to Fury more people know about Price (not saying no-one knew him before or he is now a household name) i mean without Furys rant on five, he wouldnt be as known to casual fans
Might i add Good Debate TopHat boxing and we didnt need to resort to name calling you horses arse Wink

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 30 Nov 2012, 3:50 pm

Lol yeh, not begrudging anyone for disliking Price due to his scouse heritage, just a personal thing.

I think my point here is, more than anything, I hate loud-mouth scumbag yobs. Of which Fury is an example.

Sorry, did mean Dallas, bit drunk after lunch and was rushing my answers! Still was as much a threat if not more so than most of the guys Fury's fought.

Think it added but wasn't needed, if you see what I mean. Most casual fans I spoke to already knew of Price, though I'd concede Fury had/has a higher profile - albeit mainly because he's a massive lump called TYSON-->>FURY!!

Agree you final sentiment too Smile Hug

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Post by no-mas Fri 30 Nov 2012, 3:56 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:Lol yeh, not begrudging anyone for disliking Price due to his scouse heritage, just a personal thing.

I think my point here is, more than anything, I hate loud-mouth scumbag yobs. Of which Fury is an example.

Sorry, did mean Dallas, bit drunk after lunch and was rushing my answers! Still was as much a threat if not more so than most of the guys Fury's fought.

Think it added but wasn't needed, if you see what I mean. Most casual fans I spoke to already knew of Price, though I'd concede Fury had/has a higher profile - albeit mainly because he's a massive lump called TYSON-->>FURY!!

Agree you final sentiment too Smile Hug

His name does help him to be fair, Jesus even the name David Price is boring! hahaha

"not begrudging anyone for disliking Price due to his scouse heritage, just a personal thing" - Just spotted your from London, this may cause issues being from Manchester...cant.....hold.....it....in....YOU SOFT SOUTHERN FAIRY!!! hahaha kiss



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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 30 Nov 2012, 3:59 pm

hehehe

if you want even more cliche - I'm a Man Utd supporter!! Sorry.......

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Post by Rowley Fri 30 Nov 2012, 4:02 pm

I rarely make a cast in stone put my house on it prediction on here because I have been made to look foolish too many times but if these two fight Price will beat him with something to spare. Really fail to see what anyone sees in Fury, questionable power, average technique and am not convinced he holds a shot too well. Price has so much more talent I don't even see this one as close.

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Post by no-mas Fri 30 Nov 2012, 4:03 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:hehehe

if you want even more cliche - I'm a Man Utd supporter!! Sorry.......

Sorry? you have gone up in my estimation! COME HERE YOU kiss

Just to clarify, when people say Mancunions support City, they are from the .... how do i put it delicately ..... "poorer" side of Manchester, thats why they do that jumping up and down thing, there benefits have just arrived!

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Post by no-mas Fri 30 Nov 2012, 4:05 pm

Rotherham Joe Gans wrote:I rarely make a cast in stone put my house on it prediction on here because I have been made to look foolish too many times but if these two fight Price will beat him with something to spare. Really fail to see what anyone sees in Fury, questionable power, average technique and am not convinced he holds a shot too well. Price has so much more talent I don't even see this one as close.

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Post by Union Cane Fri 30 Nov 2012, 4:10 pm

no-mas wrote:Just to clarify, when people say Mancunions support City, they are from the .... how do i put it delicately ..... "poorer" side of Manchester, thats why they do that jumping up and down thing, there benefits have just arrived!

Heard the same thing from a Manc guy the other day, 20 minutes he was boring me with it, nobodeh supports Citeh, they are a tin pot club with no fans, Old Trafford blah blah, north Manchester south Manchester, Cantona, blah blah, Tevez is over rated, blah blah blah.

He didn't know that the record attendance at OT was for a Grimsby Town match though.
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Post by no-mas Fri 30 Nov 2012, 4:17 pm

Union Cane wrote:
no-mas wrote:Just to clarify, when people say Mancunions support City, they are from the .... how do i put it delicately ..... "poorer" side of Manchester, thats why they do that jumping up and down thing, there benefits have just arrived!

Heard the same thing from a Manc guy the other day, 20 minutes he was boring me with it, nobodeh supports Citeh, they are a tin pot club with no fans, Old Trafford blah blah, north Manchester south Manchester, Cantona, blah blah, Tevez is over rated, blah blah blah.

He didn't know that the record attendance at OT was for a Grimsby Town match though.

Did anyone else read that in a Ian Brown accent haha! Dont worry Union im from Bury so i dont talk like im constipated and i dont talk like Scott Quigg either! Jesus who keeps on bringing him onto Ringside, he looks like he trying to decide between breathing and talking

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Post by barry black Tue 04 Dec 2012, 2:38 pm

Fury will knock price out in two rounds.

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Post by bhb001 Tue 04 Dec 2012, 2:58 pm

So Fury and Chisora will knock out price in two rounds. That is probably because they are ganging up on him. Terrible WUMing Barry

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