Sale vs Toulon

by maestegmafia Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:17

Game on now

3-8 to Toulon. Their pack is awesome, Masoe makes ground all the time, though Sale are putting up a very good performance.

Especially in the scrum.

Wilkinson kicking away far too much ball and not accurately enough either

by maestegmafia Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:18

Cips kicks the penalty that Sale earned at the scrum 6-8 34 mins gone

by Cyril Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:18

Why's this in the international section?

by **Biltong** Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:21

Moved

by Cyril Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:21

That's quick service Smile

by maestegmafia Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:22

Biltong wrote:Moved

Moved from where ?

by **Biltong** Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:23

International

by maestegmafia Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:23

Very wet out there in Manchester

by maestegmafia Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:24

Biltong wrote:International

Oh I didn't notice...! Well spotted Biltong.

by **Biltong** Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:24

Wilkinsen is struggling with his kicking.

Is it my imagination or is Bakkies hitting few rucks?

by maestegmafia Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:25

He is giving it a few nudges... The Toulon pack are immense. Masoe is incredible.

by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:35

Pretty good effort from Sale considering their league position. Can they push on?

by maestegmafia Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:41

Cipriani showing Wilkinson how to kick from hand

by Morgannwg Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:44

Cipriani lovefest going on in the commentary box.
vomit

by **Biltong** Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:46

Morgannwg wrote:Cipriani lovefest going on in the commentary box.

Quite, it sounds more like a Ciprimentary than a rugby match.

by maestegmafia Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:47

Morgannwg wrote:Cipriani lovefest going on in the commentary box.

Considering the other SKY Sports fav is his opposite number they are pretty quiet about possible Lions Candidate JW. He's been very poor by all accounts, certainly overshadowed by the Cipriani who can kick better, as well as pass and run.

by **Biltong** Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:51

How on earth did the referee not penalise Sale for breaking up their scrum, he then allows them to play the ball from an offside position?

by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:55

Been impressed with Sheridan looks a lot more mobile than I have seen for a while.

Wilko puts a timely pen over. After loose pass from Cips nearly leads to intercept try.

6 - 14

by maestegmafia Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:55

Bastareau looks a bit of a fat knacker these days, he has been stepped and beaten a few times now.

by maestegmafia Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 16:56

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:Been impressed with Sheridan looks a lot more mobile than I have seen for a while.

Wilko puts a timely pen over. After loose pass from Cips nearly leads to intercept try.

6 - 14

Aye, but Toulon are not as dominant as I thought they would be in the scrum. Maybe they should swap Sherry for Fat Bastereau

by **Notch** Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:00

135 appearances in Europe for Simon Shaw- thought they were gonna say 135 years old. Feels like it, can't believe he's still playing! clap

by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:00

maestegmafia wrote:
BigTrevsbigmac wrote:Been impressed with Sheridan looks a lot more mobile than I have seen for a while.

Wilko puts a timely pen over. After loose pass from Cips nearly leads to intercept try.

6 - 14

Aye, but Toulon are not as dominant as I thought they would be in the scrum. Maybe they should swap Sherry for Fat Bastereau

It was Hayman that was done in the scrum. Sheridan has been doing well.

by Artful_Dodger Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:00

Biltong wrote:How on earth did the referee not penalise Sale for breaking up their scrum, he then allows them to play the ball from an offside position?

Some of the decisions that have went Sales way have been ludicrous. I find myself wondering if the ref is English. If you are referring to the decision in the first half were Toulon turned over, the ref was going to blow for a penalty to Toulon then bizarrely awarded a scrum to Sale, from which they won a penalty and kicked 3 points. Dispicable refereeing.

by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:01

Notch wrote:135 appearances in Europe for Simon Shaw- thought they were gonna say 135 years old. Feels like it, can't believe he's still playing!

Yes - a real nice bloke as well as a Wasps & Lions legend.

by **Biltong** Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:02

No rhis one was just before the poor pass by Cipriani.

by thebluesmancometh Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:02

The tactic to open the gap at the scrum and attack the hit is paying dividends for Sale, very smart!!!

by thebluesmancometh Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:03

Big Trev

Never felt for an Englishman as I did for Shaw after his first lions test...

by maestegmafia Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:04

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
BigTrevsbigmac wrote:Been impressed with Sheridan looks a lot more mobile than I have seen for a while.

Wilko puts a timely pen over. After loose pass from Cips nearly leads to intercept try.

6 - 14

Aye, but Toulon are not as dominant as I thought they would be in the scrum. Maybe they should swap Sherry for Fat Bastereau

It was Hayman that was done in the scrum. Sheridan has been doing well.

Trev Mate

sherry has gone backwards a number of times too...!

by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:05

maestegmafia wrote:
BigTrevsbigmac wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
BigTrevsbigmac wrote:Been impressed with Sheridan looks a lot more mobile than I have seen for a while.

Wilko puts a timely pen over. After loose pass from Cips nearly leads to intercept try.

6 - 14

Aye, but Toulon are not as dominant as I thought they would be in the scrum. Maybe they should swap Sherry for Fat Bastereau

It was Hayman that was done in the scrum. Sheridan has been doing well.

Trev Mate

sherry has gone backwards a number of times too...!

Big Shawsie on now he will steady it up!

by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:06

thebluesmancometh wrote:Big Trev

Never felt for an Englishman as I did for Shaw after his first lions test...

Yes unbelievable very emotional!

by maestegmafia Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:08

They went backwards in the last scrum too...

Credit to Sale, their pack doesnt have anywhere near the reputation that Toulon do and they are more than competitive.

Considering the try chancy at best, Sale have been very competitive against one of Europes most expensive sides.

Can they hold out for the last ten minutes.

by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:09

maestegmafia wrote:They went backwards in the last scrum too...

Credit to Sale, their pack doesnt have anywhere near the reputation that Toulon do and they are more than competitive.

Considering the try chancy at best, Sale have been very competitive against one of Europes most expensive sides.

Can they hold out for the last ten minutes.

Must be watching a different game Maes. Toulon went forward & scrum went down. Lets see this one!

by maestegmafia Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:13

When i wrote that post I was relating to the one where Toulon went backwards and Sale got a penalty...!

by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:17

maestegmafia wrote:When i wrote that post I was relating to the one where Toulon went backwards and Sale got a penalty...!

Fair enough. Sale defending well.

by maestegmafia Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:18

Aye they are probably because Toulon's flyhalf is impotent

When Toulon spread the ball they look a good side, when it goes to Wilkinson all he does is kick it away and he is not kicking well today.

by Artful_Dodger Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:19

Whilst I want them to win for my accumulator - it has to be said that this Toulon team play well, well below the sum of their parts.

by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:21

Hayman lucky to get that decision again.

Wilko seals game.

by **George Carlin** Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:22

That's Sale had their pomme frites now - 6-17 to the men in red.

by **George Carlin** Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:25

Fat Basteraud man of the match.

Liking his hair. Clearly aiming for the slimming effect of vertical stripes.

by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:28

maestegmafia wrote:Aye they are probably because Toulon's flyhalf is impotent

When Toulon spread the ball they look a good side, when it goes to Wilkinson all he does is kick it away and he is not kicking well today.

Toulon top of Top14 & Johnny top points scorer is all you need to know. Horses for courses.

by maestegmafia Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:29

The game fizzled out with the weather to be honest... Toulon do not look like they are going to cause too many problems for anyone.

Now for the big game of the day...

by LeinsterFan4life Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:30

Toulon haven't been impressive at all in the HC. They struggled past both Sale and Cardiff. They are lucky they have such as easy group.

by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:33

It's not unusual for French teams to not sparkle in the group stages. But I have to agree Toulon & Toulouse don't look sharp.
Certainly compared to Ulster. That performance last night by the Ulster lads was one of the most complete performances I have seen for a while in the HC.

by maestegmafia Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:45

I agree Trev. They look the form side...!

Though you guys should not discount Clermont Auvergne who have looked very good.

by thebluesmancometh Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 17:48

I think your all missing a ittle point though, until this season the French teams struggled away from home, Toulon especially, and now they are coming to the UK playing poorly and not just winning but denying the home side points too. JOB DONE AGAIN.

by mbernz Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 18:05

French sides often don't do more than they have to, but have that extra gear when it's really needed. They're also completely different beasts at home.

Toulon & Toulouse both top Clermont in the Top 14, I wouldn't discount their dozy performances in this competition yet. Particularly if teams are playing them in France in the knockout stages.

by doctor_grey Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 18:19

In the Toulon starting line-up:
4 Frenchmen
4 Englishmen
4 Kiwis
1 Australian
1 South African
1 Argentinian
I suppose they communicate on the pitch in English?

Simon Shaw for Lions.

by Francogermanicenglishman Sat 8 Dec 2012 - 21:53

When Wilkinson plays well Toulon are monstrous, some of their performances in the Top 14 have been really, really good. Their pack is too powerful for all but the very best and in good weather their backs are classy. Also they can if need be switch Wilko for Michalak so i wouldn't count them out yet
And from what some of the french papers say the french players have to take english lessons and the trainings are in both french and english

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