What Next For Marquez?

Ideally retirement. He simply cannot top that performance. He cannot go out on a better note than absolutely donkey punching Pac Man. It was utterly devastating. The man hit the canvas face first.

But if he doesn't retire then there is only one fight i would like to see him have. Chris John.

It is a loss on his record that was dubious. It is a revenge fight against an undefeated fighter. It is a fight that can be made and fought in Las Vegas. It can give him one final pay day. It can be won.

If he fought Floyd exactly the same would happen again. Mayweather's arms are too long, Juan would not be able to get inside. If he fought Pac Man again then it be utterly pointless. He has done what he wanted to do. He cannot top that knockout... ever.

Bradley isn't a draw and would be ugly. Rios would get battered inside 8 with his face first tactics. So, it has to be Chris John or retire for me.

Thoughts?

emore

Chris John fights at 126lbs

Chris John wants no part of JMM, or of any live opponent under fair conditions. In all truth he should retire. There is no better way to go out than KOing a p4p fighter like that. WarQuez now has the signature win he craved and money in the bank.

Chris John called him out on Boxingscene and said a wait could be made.

weight not wait

Thoughts?

Wish you'd retire from the forums. Or make good on the promise you made on the old 606 regarding a high bridge.

WUM.

WTF??? Someone ban Coxy, this is a legit post. This forum is getting stiffer than a mother******...

Coxy go suck a namesake and do one.

coxy0001 wrote:

Thoughts?

Wish you'd retire from the forums. Or make good on the promise you made on the old 606 regarding a high bridge.

WUM.

Leave it there Coxy.

davidemore wrote:WTF??? Someone ban Coxy, this is a legit post. This forum is getting stiffer than a mother******...

Coxy go suck a namesake and do one.

He's had his warning. Don't retaliate and hopefully this thread won't descend into one big argument

Seanus i demand you ban him. That would have had me banned in seconds. I have literally been banned in seconds for such comments in the past. Make a statement and get back on topic. I'm waiting for a response...

Marquez needs to beat John and retire right?

davidemore wrote:Marquez needs to beat John and retire right?

There not going to fight. John offered him a fight @ 135 in his back yard, with his mother reffing and uncles scoring. Never going to happen.

Negative.

Chris John? Chris bleedin' John?

Bit of a pointless fight by 2012 / 2013 standards, I'd say. Marquez has grown in to a bit of a brute at 140 lb or more these days by the looks of things - he'd be a bit too big for John now, I'm sure.

It's odd that John should put the feelers out for a rematch now. Marquez badgered him for at least a year for a return bout after John took that decision over him a few years back, and John didn't want to know.

Marquez can name his date, price and venue against pretty much anyone at 140 - 147 lb (Mayweather aside) now, so I don't see what value a rematch with John would have when there are big fights against pound for pounders, closer to his size, such as Bradley, Guerrero and Garcia out there for him.

Don't think Marquez needs John at all. His legacy will always be tied in with Manny and now he has the definitive win, I don't see anything achieveable out there that will improve his standing.

If he needs the money then he should fight on for another year or so, otherwise he can retire with a huge degree of satisfaction.

Sorry but disagree, has to be Chris John at 135 has to be.

Would love to see him slap Garcia silly. Then slap his dad for dessert.

Would be one of the most one-sided whoopings ever seen if they got in the ring, an absolute schooling by JMM winning every round until an LKO victory.

Would be nice to see Garcia get whooped, and his stupid dad. God i hate his dad's smelly face.

davidemore wrote:Sorry but disagree, has to be Chris John at 135 has to be.

WUM.

Most fans here and around the world who aren't CRAZY ****s (we can both type in asterisks) would salivate at the thought of a war with Rios, a rematch of this years FOTY or a war with Garcia. You on the other hand don't fall in to the "fan" category, but rather something else stuck between a hard rock and a crazy realm of reality.

God i hate his dad's smelly face.

stuck between a hard rock and a crazy realm of reality

Rest my case.

I actually quite like Garcia Jr and wouldn't mind seeing him do well and really succeed as a good world champion in the coming years, to be honest. His dad's a bit of a todger but I'm fairly indifferent to him, really.

But yep, you're spot on, he'd be in over his head against Marquez if the Mexican's recent form is anything to go by. I don't think that's a slight against Garcia, who is a capable fighter at world level without doubt, more just a reflection of the high level which Marquez is at just now.

Garcia, Guerrero and Bradley are all perfectly legitimate fights, significant to his legacy, and he'd start favourite against all of them, too.

coxy0001 wrote:

God i hate his dad's smelly face.

stuck between a hard rock and a crazy realm of reality

Rest my case.

Would that be the crazy realm of reality where you are a PGA golfer, destructive wicketkeeper/batsman, website design genius and Don Juan's more successful younger brother?

Just ignore him if you don't like him. That is what I do with you. Most of the time.

"Who's the bigger fool? The fool, or the fool who follows him?"

© Obi Wan Kenobi (1977)

Tina,

Beat a guy who at the time was rated #1 in the world on the amateur scene in the London Amateur foursomes. Why would I lie?

Could go on about being head of design.... and etc etc. Much like you "apparently" buy and sell precious materials, you've got just as much reason to bull**** online as I have. And by that I mean there's sweet F.A. point in doing so.

comprende?

And moving on.

Guess we should be demanding that BHop faces the guy that beat him in his first pro fight as well? That would really enhance his legacy. Same applies here but on a lesser extreme. Both ideas are about as laughable and ridiculous as the other though.

OK 'athlete'.

Whatever you say, flower.

We've got them all in one place guys, press the button!!!!

Coxy is the wannabe bully of the forum.

He's laughable...so laugh at him, just as i do!

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:OK 'athlete'.

Whatever you say, flower.

You little stalkerish psycho wa**er

Get her.

Rattled, much?

Goodbye, Mr Cox.

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Get her.

Rattled, much?

That some complete stranger on a forum would actually try and find out stuff about another member? Yeah you bet as you tend to then fall in to the crazy psycho category.

God what a complete loser.

Marquez should go for Rios.

Would be just like the Juan Diaz fight for me (which has alway been my favorite of JMM's)

Rios would come out trying to blast him out but ever so slowly getting tagged with that right counter. Until the point were a 9/10th round goodnight sweetheart for Rios and his cocky attitude.

Garcia?? Meh! Not that bother about seeing JMM fight him. Think Garcia is a very under rated fighter. Gets a lot of flak for rematching Morales but prior to that was COMPLETELY wrote off by almost everyone when signed against Khan. They were practically preparing the lil ceremony to hand the WBC belt over with Khan talking about how Ali once held the WBC belt etc, as if he already won it. And Garcia blew him away.

Garcia vs Matthysse is going to happen anyway as that what the Matthysse vs Olusegan fight was all about. So look forward to that and still wouldn't write off a Garcia win there.

It might sound silly, but I think Marquez should go and take Paulie Malagnaggi's WBA belt off him, he deserves to be a world champion of some sort after that win at the weekend. Then a unification with Bradley in September!!!!!

coxy0001 wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Get her.

Rattled, much?

That some complete stranger on a forum would actually try and find out stuff about another member? Yeah you bet as you tend to then fall in to the crazy psycho category.

God what a complete loser.

Wasn't me that outed you, princess.

But do carry on.

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

But do carry on.

In practical terms that may prove difficult.

Well played today, Coxy!



Coxy is gone, and gone for good, lads. So have a few minutes to celebrate amongst yourselves.

Rowley wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

But do carry on.

In practical terms that may prove difficult.

To coin a baseball phrase "yoooou're outta there!"

You little stalkerish psycho wa**er.

He stole that from the birthday card my wife bought me last year. Unoriginal to the bitter end.

Fools rush in where fools have already rushed in... Or something. So here I am.

Anyway back on topic. Fraid to say, hometown judges blah blah, the John Marquez result was legit. People seem to think because Marquez screamed robbery, it was one. John fought fairly negatively as he usually does and made Marquez come to him. Barely a punch landed but the one that were were generally from John. Enough to scrape a decision. Dreadful fight, no one who loves boxing would ever want to see a repeat, or watch John fight anyone come to think of it.

Nice one. Interesting thread once again ruined by this nonsense.

Think I'll log off for another month. Some things never change.

Bye!! Happy xmas by the way!

Rowley wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

But do carry on.

In practical terms that may prove difficult.

Don't ban him on my behalf.

I thought "little stalkerish psycho wa**er" was quite cute.

How dare he call me little though.

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

Rowley wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

But do carry on.

In practical terms that may prove difficult.

Don't ban him on my behalf.

I thought "little stalkerish psycho wa**er" was quite cute.

How dare he call me little though.

Exactly, Russell Grant is short but you wouldn't call him little.

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

Don't ban him on my behalf.

So self absorbed as ever Tina, good to see you back by the way, thought we had lost you for a brief moment, just back in time to see me sweep the boards in Sean's awards

when is Sean doing the awards? I presume the award for 'Contributor most deserving of a place on the PGA tour' has just been scrapped?

seanmichaels wrote:when is Sean doing the awards? I presume the award for 'Contributor most deserving of a place on the PGA tour' has just been scrapped?

Unfortunately so, has also played havoc with the poster most likely to partner Alistair Cooke in the next ashes series and user most likely to replace Steve Jobs at Apple award, but am sure Sean will cope

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:OK 'athlete'.

Only just got that. Clever work.

Rowley wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

Don't ban him on my behalf.

So self absorbed as ever Tina, good to see you back by the way, thought we had lost you for a brief moment, just back in time to see me sweep the boards in Sean's awards

"Hoped" I was gone, more like! Just a wee pre-Christmas break with the family.

I need to ask Seanus nicely if I can still vote as I missed the deadline. Thread of the year will be a tough one. You unleashed the 'Ten Uncrowned Greats' and then Chris responds with another in the 'Ten Fights to See' series. Might have to meet in the middle and vote for something from Gordy.

I just want it noting Tina that Chris' last contribution to his frankly overrated 10 fights you must see series was posted after the deadline.

Good point - thought they were scheduled for disclosure on the 10th??!!

Rowley wrote:I just want it noting Tina that Chris' last contribution to his frankly overrated 10 fights you must see series was posted after the deadline.

Duly noted.

Gordy it is then.