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Post by Driver Wed 12 Dec 2012, 6:16 pm

P1 Exeter Chiefs vs Sale Sharks

Exeter Chiefs Chief
Manager – LukeLovesLuka

01. Brett Sturgess09. Kevin Barrett
02. Neil Clark10. Ian Humphreys (k)
03. Hoani Tui
04. Tommy Hayes11. Paul Sackey
05. James Horwill (c)12. Jason Shoemark
06. Ofisa Treviranus13. Josh Tatupu
07. James Scaysbrook 14. Matt Jess
08. Richard Baxter15. Luke Arscott
16. Ben Moon 17. Simon Alcott 18. John Andress 19. James Hanks 20. James Phillips 21. Dwayne Peel 22. Ignacio Mieres 23. Bryan Rennie

Sale Sharks

Manager – LondonIrishOllie

01.Logovoi Mulipola 09.Hadyn Thomas
02.Gary Botha10.Aaron Cruden
03.Davit Kubriashvilli
04.Matt Garvey11.Cameron Shephard
05.Yoann Maestri 12.Jonathan Davies
06.JMF Lobbe 13.Jonathan Joseph
07.Dave Seymour 14.Tom Brady
08.Jordan Crane 15.Rob Miller

Subs 16.Marc Jones 17.Henry Thomas 18.Andrew Sheridan 19.James Gaskell 20.Schalk Burger 21.Scott Mathie 22.Johan Goosen 23.Will Addison



Tactics

We will look to play an expansive brand of rugby, and use are top quality 10,12,13 axis to our full advantage.

Cruden to stand flat, and use JDv2 to get over the gain line who will attempt to offload to Joseph.

Wingers to come of wings and look for work.

JMF Lobbe, Crane, Garvey, Maestri and Botha represents a strong carrying pack. We will look to use these to get momentum and negate threat of Armitage.

We will look to run when it is on, and not get drawn into a battle of aerial ping pong.

If lineout is struggling we will bring on Gaskell, but we beleive JMF, Maestri and Garvey can do enough to secure our own ball.

P2 Perpignan V Harlequins

01. Jerome Schuster09. David Mele
02. Maxime Delonca10. Gilles Bosch
03. Nicolas Mas
04. Guillaume Vilaceca11. Adrien Plante
05. Romain Taofifenua12. Gavin Hume
06. Yoann Vivalda13. Lifeimi Mafi
07. Bertrand Guiry14. Farid Sid
08. Henry Tuilagi15. Joffrey Michel

16. Guilhem Guirado 17. Sebastien Taofifenua 18. Pascal Cotet 19. Sebastien Vahaamahina 20. Luke Narraway 21. Florian Cazenave 22. Armand Batlle 23. Sione Piukala

Harlequins

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01.Mark Lambert 09.Richard Wrigglesworth
02.John Smit 10.Nicky Robinson (k)
03.Chris Budgen
04.Mouritz Botha 11.Wesley Fofana
05.Alistair Hargreaves 12.Hudson Tonga'uhia
06.Tom Croft 13.Adam Ashley-Cooper
07.Chris Robshaw(c) 14.George North
08.Semisi Teulava 15.Jared Payne

16.Nathan Morris 17.Marcos Ayerza 18.James Johnstone 19.Carlo Del Fava 20.Dave Denton 21.Luke Burguss 22.Morne Steyn 23.Nick Abendonan

Strike runners in back line with Robinson playing flat.

Hargeaves and Croft to target the set piece with Robshaw looking to make a mess of the breakdown.

P3 Worcester vs Bayonne

Worcester Warriors

Manager – InTheFastLane

01. George Porter09. Jonny Arr
02. Ed Shervington10. George Ford
03. Tevita Taumepeau
04. Gerhard Mostert11. Tom Arscott
05. George Robson12. Jordan Turner Hall
06. Matt Kvesic13. Matt Hooper
07. Sam Betty14. Mike Penn
08. Ben Skirving15. Luke Rooney

16. Joe Marler 17. Stephen Moore 18. Juan Figallo 19. Graham Kitchener 20. Michael Hooper 21. Will Genia 22. Dan Carter 23. Kurtley Beale

Bayonne

01. Aretz Iguiniz09. Mike Phillips
02. David Roumieu10. Benjamin Boyet
03. Nemiah Tialata
04. Abdellatif Boutaty11. Marvin O'Connor
05. Mark Chisholm (c)12. Gabi Lovobalavu
06. Jean-Jo Marmouyet13. Thibault Lacroix
07. Dwayne Haare14. Sam Gerber
08. Julien Puricelli15. Scott Spedding

16. Francois Da Ros 17. Pierre Philippe Lafond 18. Vitolio Manukula 19. Robin Linde 20. Cedric Garcia 21. Marc Baget 22. Matthieu Ugalde 23. Cedric Heymans


P4 Cammi Rugby Calvisano V Saracens

Calvisano

01. Andrea Lovotti09. Gullo Palazzani
02. Luigi Ferraro10. Paul Griffen
03. Gabriele Morelli
04. Jaco Erasmus11. Ben de Jager
05. Alessio Zdrilich12. Andy Vilk
06. Giacomo Brancoli13. Pablo Canavosio
07. Gabriele Cicchinelli14. Alberto Bergamo
08. Samu Vunisa15. Shaun Berne

16. Andrea Gavazzi 17. Luca Scarsini 18. Marco Coletti 19. Luca Beccaris 20. Jacopo Salvetti 21. Simon Picone 22. Andrea Marcato 23. Tommy Castello

Saracens
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01. Matt Mullan09. Ben Spencer
02. Rob Buchanan10. Sam Stanley
03. Kieran Brookes
04. George Kruis11. Drew Mitchell
05. Ollie Kohn12. James Fitzpatrick
06. Joe Fitzgerald13. Conrad Smith (c.)
07. Will Fraser 14. Leigh Halfpenny (k.)
08. Chris York15. Chris Wyles

16. Mako Vunipola 17. Schalk Brits 18. Sekope Kepu 19. Bakkies Botha 20. Richie McCaw 21. Morgan Parra 22. Anthony Allen 23. Vereniki Goneva

P5 London Welsh vs. Grenoble

London Welsh

Manager – Fluxy

01. Rhys Gill 09. Will Chudley
02. Chris Whitehead10. Joe Ford
03. Craig Mitchell
04. Steve Borthwick (C)11. Topsy Ojo
05. Tomas Vallejos12. Gavin Henson
06. Ashley Johnson13. George Lowe
07. Will Welch14. Maxime Medard
08. Nick Easter15. Hugo Southwell

16. Tom French 17. Tom Mercey 18. Tom Lindsay 19. Tim Swinson 20. Tim Johnson 21. Paul Hodgson 22. Nick Evans 23. Ben Ransom

Grenoble

01. Albertus Buckle09. Jonathan Pelissie
02. Anthony Hegarty10. Nicolas Laharrague
03. Karim Kouider
04. Thibault Rey11. Florian Ninard
05. Andrew Farley (c)12. Aloisio Butonidualevu
06. Florent Fourcade13. Ronald Cooke
07. Fabien Alexandre14. Matthieu Nicolas
08. Flavein Nouhaillaguet15. Joaquim Tuculet

16. Laurent Bouchet 17. Romain David 18. Gregory Fabro 19. Jonathan Best 20. Rida Jaouher 21. Viliame Waqaseduadua 22. Clement Darbo 23. Florian Faure


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Post by ChequeredJersey Thu 13 Dec 2012, 1:24 pm

Saracens
Manager – ChequeredJersey
01. Matt Mullan09. Ben Spencer
02. Rob Buchanan10. Sam Stanley
03. Kieran Brookes
04. George Kruis11. Drew Mitchell
05. Ollie Kohn12. James Fitzpatrick
06. Joe Fitzgerald13. Conrad Smith (c.)
07. Will Fraser 14. Leigh Halfpenny (k.)
08. Chris York15. Chris Wyles

16. Mako Vunipola 17. Schalk Brits 18. Sekope Kepu 19. Bakkies Botha 20. Richie McCaw 21. Morgan Parra 22. Anthony Allen 23. Vereniki Goneva

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 13 Dec 2012, 10:12 pm

Exeter Chiefs Chief
Manager – LukeLovesLuka

01. Brett Sturgess09. Kevin Barrett
02. Neil Clark10. Ian Humphreys (k)
03. Hoani Tui
04. Tommy Hayes11. Paul Sackey
05. James Horwill (c)12. Jason Shoemark
06. Ofisa Treviranus13. Josh Tatupu
07. James Scaysbrook   14. Matt Jess
08. Richard Baxter15. Luke Arscott
16. Ben Moon 17. Simon Alcott 18. John Andress 19. James Hanks 20. James Phillips 21. Dwayne Peel 22. Ignacio Mieres 23. Bryan Rennie


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Post by Driver Thu 13 Dec 2012, 10:49 pm

Harlequins

Manager – Driver

01.Mark Lambert 09.Richard Wrigglesworth
02.John Smit 10.Nicky Robinson (k)
03.Chris Budgen
04.Mouritz Botha 11.Wesley Fofana
05.Alistair Hargreaves 12.Hudson Tonga'uhia
06.Tom Croft 13.Adam Ashley-Cooper
07.Chris Robshaw(c) 14.George North
08.Semisi Teulava 15.Jared Payne

16.Nathan Morris 17.Marcos Ayerza 18.James Johnstone 19.Carlo Del Fava 20.Dave Denton 21.Luke Burguss 22.Morne Steyn 23.Nick Abendonan
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Post by CJB Fri 14 Dec 2012, 9:21 pm

Worcester Warriors

Manager – InTheFastLane

01. George Porter09. Jonny Arr
02. Ed Shervington10. George Ford
03. Tevita Taumepeau
04. Gerhard Mostert11. Tom Arscott
05. George Robson12. Jordan Turner Hall
06. Matt Kvesic13. Matt Hooper
07. Sam Betty14. Mike Penn
08. Ben Skirving15. Luke Rooney

16. Joe Marler 17. Stephen Moore 18. Juan Figallo 19. Graham Kitchener 20. Michael Hooper 21. Will Genia 22. Dan Carter 23. Kurtley Beale

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Post by Londonirishollie Sat 15 Dec 2012, 5:50 am

Sale Sharks

Manager – LondonIrishOllie

01.Logovoi Mulipola 09.Hadyn Thomas
02.Gary Botha10.Aaron Cruden
03.Davit Kubriashvilli
04.Matt Garvey11.Cameron Shephard
05.Yoann Maestri 12.Jonathan Davies
06.JMF Lobbe 13.Jonathan Joseph
07.Dave Seymour 14.Tom Brady
08.Jordan Crane 15.Rob Miller

Subs 16.Marc Jones 17.Henry Thomas 18.Andrew Sheridan 19.James Gaskell 20.Schalk Burger 21.Scott Mathie 22.Johan Goosen 23.Will Addison



Tactics

We will look to play an expansive brand of rugby, and use are top quality 10,12,13 axis to our full advantage.

Cruden to stand flat, and use JDv2 to get over the gain line who will attempt to offload to Joseph.

Wingers to come of wings and look for work.

JMF Lobbe, Crane, Garvey, Maestri and Botha represents a strong carrying pack. We will look to use these to get momentum and negate threat of Armitage.

We will look to run when it is on, and not get drawn into a battle of aerial ping pong.

If lineout is struggling we will bring on Gaskell, but we beleive JMF, Maestri and Garvey can do enough to secure our own ball.

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Post by Fluxy Sat 15 Dec 2012, 7:39 pm

London Welsh

Manager – Fluxy

01. Rhys Gill 09. Will Chudley
02. Chris Whitehead10. Joe Ford
03. Craig Mitchell
04. Steve Borthwick (C)11. Topsy Ojo
05. Tomas Vallejos12. Gavin Henson
06. Ashley Johnson13. George Lowe
07. Will Welch14. Maxime Medard
08. Nick Easter15. Hugo Southwell

16. Tom French 17. Tom Mercey 18. Tom Lindsay 19. Tim Swinson 20. Tim Johnson 21. Paul Hodgson 22. Nick Evans 23. Ben Ransom

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 17 Dec 2012, 4:41 pm

Exeter Chiefs 15-21 Sale Sharks
Sale stronger in the front 5 and see them winning the scrum battle and getting around the park more. Lobbe the outstanding backrower but Chiefs with more form at 7 & 8 levels the backrow up. Halfbacks and midfield a step up to Sale but not much difference out wide. More impact late on for Sale as well. Chiefs perharps prioritising other competitions after last weeks result.

Perpignan 12-17 Harlequins
Rough time for Quins at the scrum until the benches come into play. More quality on the flanks for Quins though and they will get some joy here. Halfbacks aren’t the most awe inspiring but Quins are a world apart in this one out wide and at 13 and should pick up a good win in France.

Worcester 20-14 Bayonne
Bench seals the win in this one.

Cammi Rugby Calvisano 9-41 Saracens
Some good quality in the backs and fantastic bench options see Sarries walk away with this one.

London Welsh 23-6 Grenoble
Solid pack should give the Welsh backline the platform to score a try or two and pick up the win. Stronger halfbacks and Welsh could have been looking at a big big win.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon 17 Dec 2012, 4:46 pm

Just to state Joe Fitzgerald should read Joe Robinson at 6. Fail
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Post by prop_lyd Mon 17 Dec 2012, 6:40 pm

Exeter 14-16 Sale
Sale centres and front 5 will get them across the gainline here.

Perpignan 12-24 Quins
Quins stronger all over and like the outside backs.

Worcester 24-20 Bayonne
Impact bench takes it.

Calvisano 8-42 Sarries
Sarries have too much.

Welsh 20-12 Grenoble
Welsh front 5 will take control.
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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon 17 Dec 2012, 7:30 pm

Exeter Chiefs vs Sale Sharks

Exeter 18 - 25 Sale
Front row to Sale, obviously the scrum too. Line out very close though I give the second row to Sale. Backrow just about evens out in general and I think Sale nick the breakdown too. Definite advantage to Sale at 9/10 and at centre but the back 3 is very close. Sale also provided tactics and this overrules home advantage and gets them a vital away win. Think they offer more on the bench too. Outbully Exeter and get too much momentum to stop. EDIT: both teams OK, no change

P2 Perpignan V Harlequins

Perpignan 12 - 20 Harlequins
Beefy pack from Perpignan but Quins can match and beat it. Pretty close in every regard there except the flanks and breakdown where Robshaw and Croft will have a field day. Then Quins are better in every position in the backs. Combined with good ball, I can see only one result, and just about enough for 4 tries too. EDIT: Quins appear to break the rules, margin of victory diminished

P3 Worcester vs Bayonne

Worcester 27 - 19 Bayonne
Close front 5s but back row to Wuss and they will have fun at the lineout too. Ford will take advantage of this and the good, tried and tested centre combo should make headway to give Worcester a decent lead at 60 mins which their impressive bench will cement. EDIT: team fine, no change




London Welsh vs. Grenoble

Welsh 25 - 16 Grenoble
Welsh have the advantage across the pack and in each set piece. Grenoble probably win the HB battle but the Welsh backline outside is certainly better than theirs and Welsh can bring a better HB combo if they need it. EDIT: team fine, no change
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Post by Driver Tue 18 Dec 2012, 11:48 am

CJ,

I have 8 EQ players , are you counting Budgen?
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Post by Driver Tue 18 Dec 2012, 12:08 pm

01.Mark Lambert
03.Chris Budgen
04.Mouritz Botha
06.Tom Croft
07.Chris Robshaw(c)
08.Semisi Teulava
09.Richard Wrigglesworth
16.Nathan Morris
23.Nick Abendonan
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue 18 Dec 2012, 12:31 pm

You need 10 EQ in the sqaud for Europe mate

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Post by Bathite Tue 18 Dec 2012, 5:24 pm

Chiefs - Sale

Perpignan 14 - 24 Quins
Would be a close one in real life, but with Quins great additions in this game, I can't see it being that close. There's too much in the Quins back row and 11-15, so they score 3 tries to the French's 1. There's possibly more on the Quins bench as well.

Worcs 17 - 11 Bayonne

Calvisano 8 - 27 Sarries

Welsh 24 - 16 Grenoble



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Post by Fluxy Tue 18 Dec 2012, 5:41 pm

Exeter Chiefs 18 - 24 Sale Sharks

Exter pack are strong, but a bit of extra class from Sharks pack along with power, add the extra firepower outwide Sharks will nick this away from home.


Perpignan 17 - 21 Harlequins

Quins will get a bit of beating up front, but the dangerous backline and big bench will rescue a win away from home.


Worcester Warriors 23 - 19 Bayonne

Bayonne not the team they once were, close until the bench for Warriors come on to secure the result.


Calvisano 12 - 45 Saracens

Even this young Sarries side will walk this, they look very good for the future!

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Post by Guest Tue 18 Dec 2012, 6:21 pm

Exeter vs Sale: 15-16

Perpignan vs Quins: 12-17

Worcester vs Bayonne: 24-24

Calvisano vs Sarries: 8-42

Welsh vs Grenoble: 20-10

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Post by CJB Tue 18 Dec 2012, 6:33 pm

Exeter 21-26 Sale
Perpignan 15-19 Quins
Calvisano 6-35 Saracens
Welh 18-11 Grenoble

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Dec 2012, 7:03 pm

Exeter 16-24 Sale

Perpignan 15-18 Quins

Worcester 21-19 Bayonne

Calvisano 3-28 Sarries

Welsh 38-8 Grenoble

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Post by Driver Tue 18 Dec 2012, 8:28 pm

Exeter 12 Sale 15

Sale have a bit more stardust about them and are class above in most positions with Horwill the only real Chiefs player better than his opposite man.
Worcester 18 Bayonne 5
Calvisano 6 Saracens 34
London Welsh 35 Grenoble 5
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 19 Dec 2012, 9:43 am


Perpignan 21 - 28 Quins

Worcester 26 - 18 Bayonne

Calvisano 9 - 25 Sarries

Welsh 41 - 12 Grenoble

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 19 Dec 2012, 11:29 am

Results:

Exeter Chiefs 16-25 Sale Sharks
Perpignan 14-25 Harlequins
Worcester 27-17 Bayonne
Cammi Rugby Calvisano 8-40 Saracens
London Welsh 32-11 Grenoble

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