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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 20 Dec 2012, 11:49 am

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 24 May 2013, 12:47 pm

Bathite wrote:Anyone else seen the England team vs. Baa Baas. Wouldn't mind it being 90% of the team in 3/4 years time! Add in Cole, Mako, Youngs, Youngs, Wood, Croft, Farrell and it's looking tasty.

So nice to see us playing a FB at FB and two proper tricky wingers with pace! JJ needs a good game, he's had an average season. Good to see Corbs back in an England shirt though

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9. Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens)
1. Alex Corbisiero (London Irish)
2. Rob Webber (Bath Rugby, captain)
3. David Wilson (Bath Rugby)
4. Joe Launchbury (London Wasps)
5. Dave Attwood (Bath Rugby)
6. Tom Johnson (Exeter Chiefs)
7. Matt Kvesic (Worcester Warriors)
8. Ben Morgan (Gloucester Rugby)

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19. Kearnan Myall (Unattached)
20. Billy Vunipola (London Wasps)
21. Haydn Thomas (Exeter Chiefs)
22. Kyle Eastmond (Bath Rugby)
23. Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby)

Add in Robshaw and Care too, and Flood. And Tuilagi
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 24 May 2013, 3:01 pm

Webber at captain is a good call.

Good to see four glos players and 1 soon to be glos in the team!!
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Post by Bathite Fri 24 May 2013, 3:05 pm

and 4 Bath, with 1 to come! Come on you Barrrth! Two Bath front rowers, who would have thought that!

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Post by Fluxy Fri 24 May 2013, 3:16 pm

The last two were probably mears and flatman?

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Post by Bathite Fri 24 May 2013, 3:33 pm

Definitely Mears, but Barnes and Belly got some caps as well.

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Post by Fluxy Fri 24 May 2013, 8:00 pm

Oz backline for the lions anyone?

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 24 May 2013, 8:02 pm

Hard to gauge with all the injuries/omissions atm!
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Post by Fluxy Fri 24 May 2013, 8:11 pm

Well there are some certainties, like Genia and AAC

9. Genia
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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 24 May 2013, 8:15 pm

I think they will get it together at the last minute and we will face the daunting prospect of:

9. Genia
10. O'Connor
11. Tomane
12. Barnes
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14. Ioane
15. Beale

with Lealifiano and Folau on the bench and Mitchell, Cooper and maybe Mogg playing their parts in the later tests.

However I'd rather face your team
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Post by Fluxy Fri 24 May 2013, 8:24 pm

I just can't see JOC starting at ten. He is a liability in defence as it is, and I'm sure our forwards would relish it. Beale can go at FH or FB and will play if he sorts himself out. Cooper has ended his Oz career for a while, especially with the players they have coming through. Toomua the Brumbies FH looks ready within the year for Int rugby.

Much like Folua, his intercept today was just brilliant.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 24 May 2013, 8:36 pm

Fluxy wrote:I just can't see JOC starting at ten. He is a liability in defence as it is, and I'm sure our forwards would relish it. Beale can go at FH or FB and will play if he sorts himself out. Cooper has ended his Oz career for a while, especially with the players they have coming through. Toomua the Brumbies FH looks ready within the year for Int rugby.

Much like Folua, his intercept today was just brilliant.

He has a pretty respectable 89% tackle rate this season and has made 65 tackles, his defence isn't that bad at all, and this is playing for the rebels...

Actually his stats are overall pretty good for a player at the Rebels- http://www.rugbystats.com.au/rugby/super15/player-stats.html?refresh=1369423851809

http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/wallabies-defence-and-tackling-statistics-in-2010/ looking at this Beale is not exactly a great defender, and that was playing at 15 where the tackling is more covering and less physicality
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Post by Fluxy Fri 24 May 2013, 8:50 pm

I accept that his tackle rate is higher than I expected, but it's a very easy target for the Lions back-row especially.

Beale makes up for with his attacking intent. To be fair when he has played at ten he is solid. But its hard to say that there isn't a fullback that is always in the right place at the right time.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 24 May 2013, 8:53 pm

And JOC doesn't do attacking intent?

Tbf I'd rather face Barnes (or Cooper, who is weak in defence, leads turnovers given in the competition errors) and than either of them
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 24 May 2013, 8:53 pm

JOC is a cracking defender, he's had one bad game defensively against the Blues the whole time I've watched him.

Even that game against Blues wasn't too bad, he got palmed off which was an error on his part. When Ranger ran through him he shouldn't have been on the pitch as he'd injured his chest in a previous tackle, he'd just got back up if I remember correctly and then went straight off after.

Deans has said he'll start 10 more than likely with Barnes at 12.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 24 May 2013, 8:54 pm

Course, he has to recover from that broken sternum first
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Post by Fluxy Fri 24 May 2013, 8:57 pm

To my mind JOC is better utlised in the wider spaces. not so much a target. I didn't quite mean he lack attacking instinct. But he would be targeted, and that would lead to more tackles being missed.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 24 May 2013, 8:59 pm

Gonna disagree with you here, chap. JOC is probably a better winger than a 10 in my eyes, but Aus have better back 3 players than stand-offs so if fit he'll play where Aus need him
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 24 May 2013, 9:01 pm

He's obviously proven in the wider channels, I still think he can be a world class 10/12 where he can cause more damage. He's such a talent with ball in hand

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Post by Fluxy Fri 24 May 2013, 9:03 pm

Fair enough. I just can't see him making the move at the International level

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 24 May 2013, 9:04 pm

He never commits to Ranger tackle, just tries to get his way really:

https://youtu.be/DTk4PszBxJE

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 24 May 2013, 9:04 pm

I may be biased though, he is literally one of my favourite players still playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qRYIbdvkF4&list=PLEF0C7A369D744E85&index=56
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 24 May 2013, 9:04 pm

He's played a few games at 10 Flux, he'll make the switch eventually just when.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 24 May 2013, 9:06 pm

apologies for the dire music
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Post by Fluxy Fri 24 May 2013, 9:08 pm

He cannot stay on his feet in the first 90 seconds! lol

I'm sure he will, but he won't be up there with the best for me.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 24 May 2013, 9:10 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:I may be biased though, he is literally one of my favourite players still playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qRYIbdvkF4&list=PLEF0C7A369D744E85&index=56

Great clip CJ, it has that front on tackle on Spies I mentioned before.

Interesting most of his work is done in the 12 channel in those clips often as 1st/2nd receiver.

Amazing talent, my fav back in rugby currently, boy has the lot.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 24 May 2013, 9:11 pm

Fluxy wrote:He cannot stay on his feet in the first 90 seconds! lol

I'm sure he will, but he won't be up there with the best for me.

He is only 22 lol, time will tell I guess. I think he'll end up at 12 personally.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 24 May 2013, 9:15 pm

1:13 here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR6kUzhvt9o

Bloody amazing
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 24 May 2013, 9:21 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:1:13 here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR6kUzhvt9o

Bloody amazing

Unreal, not a bad tackle on Matfield after too.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 24 May 2013, 9:22 pm

Could do our "favourite" (not best) player 15s again on here?
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Post by Fluxy Fri 24 May 2013, 10:54 pm

Go for it mate

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Post by Fluxy Sun 26 May 2013, 3:48 pm

Little bit of blow for the AB's with Whitelock out. They're going to have a pretty inexperienced front five very soon. Not short of talent though!

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8735732,00.html

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Post by Fluxy Mon 27 May 2013, 6:39 pm

Does anyone fancy doing a summer tournament to keep up the activity?

We could have rules such as leaving players involved with the Lions out?

Thoughts?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 27 May 2013, 9:01 pm

Aye mate, we'll sort something out

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Post by Bathite Tue 28 May 2013, 8:52 am

Is this the beginning of the end for Conrad Smith as an AB?

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8739354,00.html

Centres cupboard not looking brilliant for ABs with Kahui broken and in JP, Ranger in cracking form, but suspect defensively and SBW playing the wrong sport!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 28 May 2013, 10:34 am

It's this sabbatical McCaw is on, think Carter is doing the same at some point.

Really like the look of Saili coming through for the Blues.

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Post by Bathite Tue 28 May 2013, 10:44 am

Yep, sabbatical, but he's not that young and has the concussion concerns as well. Beginning of the end I reckon, a good time for them to plan for life without him

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Post by Guest Tue 28 May 2013, 11:59 am

flux i'd be up for it mate

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Post by Fluxy Tue 28 May 2013, 12:07 pm

Predictions are Open for the Premiership Final

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Post by Guest Wed 29 May 2013, 6:15 pm

will we be doing a summer comp?

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Post by Fluxy Wed 29 May 2013, 6:19 pm

We will sort something out. Have to sort your squad at this weekend, depending on the result of the big game tonight!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 29 May 2013, 6:22 pm

Yea, I'll think of something

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Post by Guest Wed 29 May 2013, 6:38 pm

is it not worth me signing anyone this week then flux?

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Post by Fluxy Wed 29 May 2013, 6:43 pm

Who would you sign and where from? I think it'd be worth looking at your squad first, unless you have a bid that you need to utilise

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Post by Bathite Thu 30 May 2013, 8:18 am

Congrats to the Falcons, Driver and Pooly!

Thoughts on next season? Is the squad considerably better than London Welsh? Or perhaps better than Worcester / Irish and enough to drag them down again into a relegation battle?

Blair is a pretty huge signing, I guess there might be more to come as well

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Post by Fluxy Thu 30 May 2013, 8:22 am

It's better in areas, but there is still some reinforcement needed. Like you said Blair will be good, but need a touch of class/experience in the front row IMO

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 30 May 2013, 9:13 am

Cheers Bathite, it's been a long slog of a season. Was nervy viewing last night.

Our squad at the minute is only better then Irish for me, we'll be close to Worcester and Sale. A few key signings and we'll be bottom 4 or higher hopefully.

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Post by Bathite Thu 30 May 2013, 9:19 am

Surely a better set up and better planned than London Welsh. Wuss have made some good signings though, Thomas, Creevy, Mieres, Warwick all classy players.

KP always quite difficult place to get a win, but aren't you relying on Hodgson at 10 quite a bit? Clegg isn't an ideal back up either. I guess Blair takes some pressure off the 10.

Irish need to do some serious recruitment, they've lost Corbs, Joseph, Garvey, Gibson, Sisi, Watson and probably some others I've forgotten

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 30 May 2013, 9:23 am

Looks like you're Newcastle Falcons next season CF.

I'll have a think of squad numbers you can bring through, who has Falcons players on here now?

CF you can take on the Falcons academy (some top players coming through) and we'll help you with the squad if you like. Have a look at the current Wasps academy andf see if there's anyone you want ti bring through.

Flux, you can take on the Wasps academy as of next season as Welsh don't have one.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 30 May 2013, 9:26 am

We've signed Goodman at 10 too Bathite, he's a Gopperth type 10 with a good boot.

I like to think our coaching set up is slightly better set up than Sale/Irish but may be wrong.

On this season I'd have put us bottom 4 above those two, so hard to compare though.

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