Tredwell and Swann...

...is it viable to play both of these in the same ODI side?

Or are they too samey, especially given the lack of variation in England seam bowling and further right arm orthodox available from Root.

They are Englands best wicket taking bowlers in ODIs.

Perhaps too similar to use regularly ...but in sub-continental conditions I should think there would be times they'd do well together.

Love to have Swann to put on right now

From now on I suspect they will be used together when they want to play two spinners(until recently, Patel was considered the second spinner).

Yes they should have played together here if we were serious about winning the series. We're effectively playing with 2 bowlers so unless the batsmen make 320ish like in the first match we will almost certainly lose.

Not that bothered about this series saying that, so if resting allows better performances in Tests so be it. Think we would have won the series though with an attack containing Finn, Broad, Swann and Tredwell.

I read that the New Zealand ODI series is seen as more important, as the World Cup will be (co-)hosted in New Zealand, and it's important to get our top ODI team playing out there. I think only Pietersen is rested for that series, although Root is off captaining the Lions in Australia. Hopefully common sense can prevail and Root can be switched in for the out-of-form Morgan or Patel.

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:...is it viable to play both of these in the same ODI side?

Or are they too samey, especially given the lack of variation in England seam bowling and further right arm orthodox available from Root.

They are Englands best wicket taking bowlers in ODIs.

I was thinking the same thing. Often we wish Swann had more overs. I don't think it has to be sub-continental pitches. I would play them in all countries. Swann econ 4.47 and Tredwell 4.87.

Anderson, Finn, Broad, Swann and Tredwell.

For me, it doesn't make a difference that they are quite similar. They are both effective (unlike Patel) and that's the most important thing.

Root will eventually be taken apart by someone and his bowliing will become less of an option - right about the time he will turn from hero to zero on v2 and everyone will be calling for him to be dropped.

Actually I don't think root is in th nz limited overs squads. Trotting will probably take is place anyway.

Is a batting line up with butter broad swann tredwell Anderson Finn not putting undue pressure on the front 5 to preserve wickets? 3 right arm steamers and 2 right arm orthodox spinners doesn't exactly give cook options, and the support from trott and kp is occasional atbbest.

It's annoying you can only pick from what you've got. Patel wonder innings appears to be misleading as to his real prowess, whilst you can't expect a finisher to come off all the time twice a series would be nice. In the bowling England need wickets, and it's proper bowlers who get those.

If broad and Morgan can find form there's potential in that line up as well as obvious
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I agree we should consider playing Swann and Tredwell in same side more often. I think arguments about having to go for variety have less validity in ODIs. If your best economy bowlers are spinners, I would say more often than not that's what you should select.