What Is The Point of This Forum's Tennis Section?

[Henman Bill]

Please vote now.

[newballs]

HB the last box admirably sums up most of the low life that frequents this forum (myself excepted naturally enough). It definitely gets my vote.

[JuliusHMarx]

You missed out 'All of the above', 'None of the above' and 'To annoy the Moderators'

[bogbrush]

Why should 606v2 be any different than any discussion about sport in any part of the World in any context?

[newballs]

Why should 606v2 be any different than any discussion about sport in any part of the World in any context?

Some of us remember a golden age to this forum when issues such as the relative merits of Sampras and Federer as GOAT were discussed at length. Those were the days when some of the posts were very entertaining.

Since Rafa turned up though the quality of debate has definitely gone down. It actually has stayed pretty much in the gutter since his injury so maybe it's not all his fault.

[Henman Bill]

You missed out 'All of the above', 'None of the above' and 'To annoy the Moderators'

I think you can vote for all of them or none of them by selecting all of none of them, genius! Although the last one you are right I have missed that one out, but there is always the comments section.

[Henman Bill]

Why should 606v2 be any different than any discussion about sport in any part of the World in any context?

Some of us remember a golden age to this forum when issues such as the relative merits of Sampras and Federer as GOAT were discussed at length. Those were the days when some of the posts were very entertaining.

Since Rafa turned up though the quality of debate has definitely gone down. It actually has stayed pretty much in the gutter since his injury so maybe it's not all his fault.

You mean the original 606? Anyway, I ought to go back to work now. This is taking a long luch break to excess already. I'll try and have a look in the evening to see if I've unleashed any mayhem, although I am more interested in the vote result!

[bogbrush]

Why should 606v2 be any different than any discussion about sport in any part of the World in any context?

Some of us remember a golden age to this forum when issues such as the relative merits of Sampras and Federer as GOAT were discussed at length. Those were the days when some of the posts were very entertaining.

Since Rafa turned up though the quality of debate has definitely gone down. It actually has stayed pretty much in the gutter since his injury so maybe it's not all his fault.

Entertainly, but not really different.

My point is that this is what sport discussion is; one long, pointless argument which resolves nothing inspiring strong passions on a subject that doesn't matter.

That's why we all enjoy it so much.

[newballs]

bb there were some posters back in the days of 606 who made winding up others in the forum into a fine art form. Sadly they've long departed even if (as you rightly point out) all they were doing was creating a pointless argument that seemingly went round in circles.

[bogbrush]

Some of them were classic, but wouldn't be allowed today. We went closer to the edge in those days yet there wasn't, mostly, the same vitriol. I think for some reason the exterme irony that was common coin sort of allowed it all to be defused through mockery and humour.

Ah, the days of Dr_Sinceres Premature Speculation, Wise_Analysts various names for Federer;

"Swiss Shanky"
"The Basel Bungler"
others?

and of course "chilling warnings" and "irrefutable".

Very good old days!

[HM Murdock]

Where else would I go to establish whether that guy who you've never met and has no idea if you exist is better or worse than that guy who I've never met and doesn't know if I exist?

[bogbrush]

Where else would I go to establish whether that guy who you've never met and has no idea if you exist is better or worse than that guy who I've never met and doesn't know if I exist?

Exactly. And what can be more important than that?

[Guest]

You forgot, "because i'd never have the b*lls to be this inpolite and rude in real life, soo I think it's OK to do it here, and bellttle other people despite havign done practically nothing with my life in comparison"

[JuliusHMarx]

Some of them were classic, but wouldn't be allowed today. We went closer to the edge in those days yet there wasn't, mostly, the same vitriol. I think for some reason the exterme irony that was common coin sort of allowed it all to be defused through mockery and humour.

Ah, the days of Dr_Sinceres Premature Speculation, Wise_Analysts various names for Federer;

"Swiss Shanky"
"The Basel Bungler"
others?

and of course "chilling warnings" and "irrefutable".

Very good old days!

Salutations to this knowledgable poster

[bogbrush]

Remember when Federer was "triple bagelled" by Kuerten, 6-4, 6-4, 6-4 at the French?

[socal1976]

Henman bill there are like 2 regular posting Djokovic fans, so I don't think it is really a battle between the federer fans v. Djokovic fans. But I like your suggestted answers a very funny thread. I voted for talking tennis but I guess a lot of the other wons are pretty valid as well. Who knows why we spend so much time here.

[newballs]

Henman bill there are like 2 regular posting Djokovic fans, so I don't think it is really a battle between the federer fans v. Djokovic fans. But I like your suggestted answers a very funny thread. I voted for talking tennis but I guess a lot of the other wons are pretty valid as well. Who knows why we spend so much time here.

Who knows why we spend so much time here. [/quote]

because we have nothing better to do?

[JuliusHMarx]

I'm here because I'm drunk with power. One day I will delete you all! Do you hear me? BWAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[invisiblecoolers]

While Rafa do gets bashed he has tremendous support here as well, its not that Fed don't go un-bashed nor Djoko fans go without celebration.

HB, you just making too much fuss about the situation

I know you are a Murray supporter and have nothing else to do outside this thread after his loss, perfectly understandable. On the other hand you can learn from other Murray fans who took the defeat sportingly even though they didn't like it.

[lags72]

bb & JHM : Ah .....the ubiquitous "irrefutable" was always one of my favourites.

The nonsensical theory behind its use being if I simply assert something to be fact then it obviously is (yeah ....right !!) Along with the if I keep it repeating this stuff often enough, then rational people with conflicting views will eventually become converts (which of course nobody ever did ....)

I often used to wonder whether some of the more tedious WUM's such as Unbiased Educator and his many alter egos ('simple analyst', 'tennis tutor' etc etc...... ) and his mate boromir, actually believed any of the guff they wrote. Certainly they ended up becoming parodies of themselves, as though living in some sort of parallel world. They surely can't have been quite as stupid as they were (seemingly) happy to appear .....

I too found much of it entertaining for a while - not least when some of the more surreal articles/posts that had been produced before my time were later requoted by various longstanding members.

But ultimately the poor quality WUM's became very tiresome indeed. So personally I won't be getting too nostalgic myself, not least because I only joined the new 606 once I saw clear evidence that the nastier brand of wummery had been given very short shrift, prompting the perpetrators either to move on voluntarily OR talk themselves into a ban.

[socal1976]

As one who has been banned on multiple occassions by the lord high executioner of the delete button Julius the DICtator, I take exception to being called a WUM lags! A sarcastic and aggressive hothead yes, but a WUM never!

[lags72]

socal : there was - you will observe - absolutely no reference to yourself in my post when I was talking of WUM's. There were, however, mentions of certain other names.

I do hope your defensive rebuttal is not a sign of a guilty conscience on that score ......

Anyway I will happily go with your own (very honest!) description ......

(btw, huge congrats to your man for a convincing win yesterday, and indeed a fine performance throughout the AO )

[invisiblecoolers]

I'm here because I'm drunk with power. One day I will delete you all! Do you hear me? BWAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

But do you have the option of deleting yourself? if so can you do it and prove me

[invisiblecoolers]

As one who has been banned on multiple occassions by the lord high executioner of the delete button Julius the DICtator, I take exception to being called a WUM lags! A sarcastic and aggressive hothead yes, but a WUM never!

for me the one who moves on in the life forgetting the past and making steps to correct it should never be remind of his past again, Socal v2 is a credit to the forum.

After all everybody makes mistakes but humans differ from animal by correcting it and making sure doesn't happen again.

[socal1976]

socal : there was - you will observe - absolutely no reference to yourself in my post when I was talking of WUM's. There were, however, mentions of certain other names.

I do hope your defensive rebuttal is not a sign of a guilty conscience on that score ......

Anyway I will happily go with your own (very honest!) description ......

(btw, huge congrats to your man for a convincing win yesterday, and indeed a fine performance throughout the AO )

Thanks lags, your congratulations are warmly appreciated. Oh I have been known to purposely stoke the fires a bit everything in moderation.

[bogbrush]

Impartial_Lion, Wise_Analyst, Medier, Dr_Sincere, mouse_in_lions_clothing, and the rest were very, very funny and brilliant to debate with. I never found the bitterness there.

They were essentially pro-Sampras, anti-Federer guys who adopted Nadal as the head of "Team Nemesis" who were going to stop the Basel Bungler in his tracks. Stan Wawrinka was frequently referred to as "Swiss No 1". Those glorious four weeks when Federer got the French then scored #15 at Wimbledon more or less finished them.

I miss them. You could have hours of highly charged fun. They were very well informed and knowledgable tennis fans who were keen to remind you of that.

[bogbrush]

As one who has been banned on multiple occassions by the lord high executioner of the delete button Julius the DICtator, I take exception to being called a WUM lags! A sarcastic and aggressive hothead yes, but a WUM never!

for me the one who moves on in the life forgetting the past and making steps to correct it should never be remind of his past again, Socal v2 is a credit to the forum.

After all everybody makes mistakes but humans differ from animal by correcting it and making sure doesn't happen again.

You've not studied much history, have you?

[Henman Bill]

You forgot, "because i'd never have the b*lls to be this inpolite and rude in real life, soo I think it's OK to do it here, and bellttle other people despite havign done practically nothing with my life in comparison"

Well I kind of had this, in a more polite way.

I see my pointless, frivolous thread easily outranks in posts and views my thread discussing the upcoming tournaments....

[Henman Bill]

I joined 606 in 2009, according to what I've heard, it was the tail end of some kind of golden era!

[lags72]

I hear what you say bb, and there's no doubt there were amusing, and (at times) quite entertaining, elements to the various ramblings of the WUM's.

Despite the knowledge that they showed on occasion, I would still question just how much they enjoyed watching tennis versus their main sport of keyboard wummery (eg Wawrinka Swiss Number One, Federer the clay muppet, Roddick the clown and countless other bits of guff ...)

But as already mentioned, it all became tediously repetitive after a while ; and for that reason alone I'm a little surprised to hear you miss them.

[User 774433]

Wawrinka Swiss Number One

Sets Wawrinka has taken of Djokovic in AO since 2008: 2
Sets Federer has taken of Djokovic in AO since 2008: 0

Irrefutable.

[bogbrush]

Wawrinka Swiss Number One

Sets Wawrinka has taken of Djokovic since 2008: 2
Sets Federer has taken of Djokovic since 2008: 0

Irrefutable.

That's the kind if factual inaccuracy that would have seen you hounded on 606.

With no edit button it was a much harder school than this place.

(I know what you meant to say, but........

[socal1976]

As one who has been banned on multiple occassions by the lord high executioner of the delete button Julius the DICtator, I take exception to being called a WUM lags! A sarcastic and aggressive hothead yes, but a WUM never!

for me the one who moves on in the life forgetting the past and making steps to correct it should never be remind of his past again, Socal v2 is a credit to the forum.

After all everybody makes mistakes but humans differ from animal by correcting it and making sure doesn't happen again.

Well thank you IC, you are credit to the forum as well and as fellow los Angeles LAker fan and one who appreciates JMDP you have good taste as well.

[User 774433]

lol... I meant in the Australian Open.
Let me edit that.

[newballs]

Impartial_Lion, Wise_Analyst, Medier, Dr_Sincere, mouse_in_lions_clothing, and the rest were very, very funny and brilliant to debate with. I never found the bitterness there.

They were essentially pro-Sampras, anti-Federer guys who adopted Nadal as the head of "Team Nemesis" who were going to stop the Basel Bungler in his tracks. Stan Wawrinka was frequently referred to as "Swiss No 1". Those glorious four weeks when Federer got the French then scored #15 at Wimbledon more or less finished them.

I miss them. You could have hours of highly charged fun. They were very well informed and knowledgable tennis fans who were keen to remind you of that.

"Impartial_Lion, Wise_Analyst, Medier, Dr_Sincere, mouse_in_lions_clothing" Rumour has it they were one and the same guy constantly chatting with himself. Having said that some of the posts were very clever and wound up lots of us in a way some of the later WUMs can never achieve.

[socal1976]

I did find them kind of amusing as well, but lets be fair there were a lot of anti-Nadal wums who simply haven't gone away and I don't know if they have ever been quite as funny as the anti-fed wums. There does seem to be more naked aggression in some of the heat directed at Nadal, Djokovic gets a bit of that now as well. Either way one must take the silly stuff on these forums with some humor. I personally like my goosing of federer fans from time to time but it can overwhelm the substance of tennis debate when everything is viewed through intense polarization

[socal1976]

Yeah I loved how unbiased educator used to call Stan Wawrinka the swiss no. 1. That is a golden oldie.

[lags72]

Indeed, a salient edit/correction IMBL

(you can't have forgotten the bagel suffered by Djokovic v. Federer just a few short months ago, surely ........... )

[User 774433]

Indeed, a salient edit/correction IMBL

(you can't have forgotten the bagel suffered by Djokovic v. Federer just a few short months ago, surely ........... )

Djokovic only plays properly at the AO.

Rest are all chamber pot tournaments.

[lags72]

True enough.

He'd best keep well away from South America .......

[Henman Bill]

While Rafa do gets bashed he has tremendous support here as well, its not that Fed don't go un-bashed nor Djoko fans go without celebration.

HB, you just making too much fuss about the situation

I know you are a Murray supporter and have nothing else to do outside this thread after his loss, perfectly understandable. On the other hand you can learn from other Murray fans who took the defeat sportingly even though they didn't like it.

I am not a Murray supporter. Why do you assume I have some hidden motivation? I am a Federer fan actually.

[socal1976]

Everyone knows that the Australian Open is the most valuable Grand slam, and that each AO is worth at least six wimbeldons and 5.5 USOs, every tournament should be played outdoors on plexicushion that is the only way that they will ever matter.

[User 774433]

Everyone knows that the Australian Open is the most valuable Grand slam, and that each AO is worth at least six wimbeldons and 5.5 USOs, every tournament should be played outdoors on plexicushion that is the only way that they will ever matter.

Yes.
Wimbledon is a chamber pot tournament.

[socal1976]

Grass is for cows and dirt is for farming wheat IMBL, not for tennis you know that.

[YvonneT]

Why are we here? Because, thanks to hawkeye, you get to read all of the The Times tennis output without financing the Murdoch empire with PPV

[socal1976]

Yes that is funny YvonneT, I would never pay any money to read stuff I can read for free.

[Guest]

Tis a good source of information and entertainment like any forum should be. Like Ronseal. Does it says on the tin.

[Silver]

Blimey, I remember Wise_Analyst and company - did anyone ever find out that they were (irrefutably) the same person? They were hilarious, provided you left your suspension of disbelief at the door.

Grass is for cows and dirt is for farming wheat IMBL, not for tennis you know that.

[Guest]

Henman Bill, I apologise I thought I was being polite about it, I had to hold something back.
Were sort of in 3 camps I guess,

1) quite a few of us just come here to talk about tennis, since it can be hard to find people outside of it to discuss the relative merits of grand slam weights, without giving you that eye to suggest youve gone a bit mental.

2) Another are the sarcy ones, that have some fun playing devils advocate, they mostly went as socal said after the old 606

3) Then there's the 3rd one, the ones that ruin the lot, the childish immature ones that have a genuine hatred of a player for no reason other than jealousy, and oh boy do they want us to hear it and ruin the forum for the rest. The ones that genuinly talk about asterisk slams, and belittle everything about the player, that they can only win in the wind or can only win when the other is inujured, or they wish the hated player would just get injured. There aren't many, but they ruined the old 606 and they make this one really unwelcoming at times, during slams its intolerable

Ther third one is the one taht makes me consider whether to bother posting, it's like dealing with schoolchildren

[Guest]

The point is that these top guys have worked and achieved probably more than any of us ever have, and we should respect them for that. You pick a side yes, and you don't have to like the style they play, but its the result of years of work, and to belittle that because youre angwy that they beat youre player or you dont like them is a schoolboy bullys mentality.

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