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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 29 Jan 2013, 2:09 pm

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Breaking News: Former London Irish boss stnick88 returns in charge of Worcester Warriors and Quins win the top of the table clash with Tigers to narrow the gap between the two teams to a single point.

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2 Homepage - Page 3 7Harlequins15110 4 392 353 +39 43 37 3 4 51
3 Homepage - Page 3 8Newcastle Falcons15100 5 379 341 +38 40 30 1 5 46
4 Homepage - Page 3 12Sale Sharks15 9 0 6 377 351 +26 41 35 1 6 43
5 Homepage - Page 3 2Gloucester1590 6 378 356 +22 42 38 1 4 41
6 Homepage - Page 3 9Northampton Saints1571 7 376 361 +15 40 37 2 6 38
7 Homepage - Page 3 50London Welsh15 7 2 6 351 336 +15 37 31 0 6 38
8 Homepage - Page 3 1Bath Rugby1580 7 355 357 -2 34 38 0 5 37
9 Homepage - Page 3 5London Irish156 0 9 369 378 -9 39 39 2 8 34
10 Homepage - Page 3 11Saracens1541 10 316 380 -64 28 41 0 523
11 Homepage - Page 3 6London Wasps 1520 13 313 381 -68 28 43 0 10 18
12 Homepage - Page 3 57Worcester Warriors1521 12 317 384 -67 27 41 0 7 17






Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.



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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 30 Jan 2013, 4:28 pm

Lee Imolek can go for cash if anyones interested in an EQ LH whos still academy age thumbsup

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 30 Jan 2013, 4:33 pm

Wade certainly a talent, tackling is good for his size but needs to work on cross field kicks - but never seen a better runner than him, incredible speed and power.

He hasn't really been tested at Wasps, who I think need to get into the HC next season so we can see what guys like Wade, BV and Daly can really do.

Some good players in that England team, like the look of Watson, Day and Sinckler - stand out player for me this year though it Tom Stephenson at Saints, think he's injured at the moment but he's a very good player.

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Post by Driver Wed 30 Jan 2013, 4:37 pm

Sam Hill at 12 is meant to be something special/.
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Post by dammit_chris Wed 30 Jan 2013, 6:42 pm

He's a good player Driver, quite a few of the team have AP experience already - the game is on SS2 on Friday at 5.30pm, certainly worth a watch.

Last few seasons England seem to leave out 2-3 of their better players for the 6Nations and save them for the WC, guess they are getting AP experience, which is a higher level.

There is a very good Sarries second row, whose name escapes me (Itwoji is my guess) and he's just like Courtney Lawes.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 30 Jan 2013, 8:07 pm

Berrick Barnes off to Japan apparently:

http://m.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/barnes-off-to-japan-at-seasons-end-20130130-2dlk2.html

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Post by Fluxy Wed 30 Jan 2013, 8:11 pm

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8455817,00.html

Same story

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Post by Guest Wed 30 Jan 2013, 11:27 pm

Just seen.
No no no. At least he is playing until
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Post by Guest Wed 30 Jan 2013, 11:28 pm

Watch for stookes in u20s England super excited by him as are
Glos.

A second row which is rare for glos

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Post by Fluxy Wed 30 Jan 2013, 11:30 pm

What about Savage? lol

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Post by Driver Wed 30 Jan 2013, 11:32 pm

Scotland A: Greig Tonks (Edinburgh), Duncan Taylor (Saracens), Alex Grove (Worcester Warriors), Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors), Nikki Walker (Worcester Warriors), Tom Heathcote (Bath Rugby), Sean Kennedy (Glasgow Warriors); Alasdair Dickinson (Sale Sharks), Steven Lawrie (Edinburgh), Jon Welsh (Glasgow Warriors), Tom Ryder (Glasgow Warriors), Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors), Stuart McInally (Edinburgh Rugby), Stuart McInally (Edinburgh Rugby), Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors)

Replacements: Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors), Grant Shiells (Newcastle Falcons), Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors), Robert McAlpine (Edinburgh Rugby), James Eddie (Glasgow Warriors), Jamie Stevenson (London Scottish), Ben Cairns (Edinburgh Rugby), Dougie Fife (Edinburgh Rugby)
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Post by prop_lyd Wed 30 Jan 2013, 11:57 pm

Mcalpine given up on the building trade then?!
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Post by Driver Wed 30 Jan 2013, 11:59 pm

Beats me, Good to see Grant Shiells and Tim Swinson finally getting some recognition.

Top player Swinno.
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Post by prop_lyd Thu 31 Jan 2013, 9:17 am

England Saxons to play Scotland A in Newcastle tomorrow.

More to follow…

15 Elliot Daly (London Wasps)
14 Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby)
13 Joel Tomkins (Saracens)
12 Jordan Turner-Hall (Harlequins)
11 Tom Biggs (Bath Rugby)
10 George Ford (Leicester Tigers)
9 Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens)
1 Matt Mullan (Worcester Warriors)
2 Joe Gray (Harlequins)
3 Paul Doran-Jones (Northampton Saints)
4 Graham Kitchener (Leicester Tigers)
5 George Robson (Harlequins)
6 George Kruis (Saracens)
7 Will Fraser (Saracens)
8 Jordan Crane (Leicester Tigers, captain).

Replacements: 
16 Rob Buchanan (Harlequins)
17 Nick Wood (Gloucester Rugby)
18 Kieran Brookes (Leicester Tigers)
19 Ed Slater (Leicester Tigers)
20 Jamie Gibson (London Irish)
21 Joe Simpson (London Wasps)
22 George Lowe (Harlequins)
23 Kyle Eastmond (Bath Rugby)
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 31 Jan 2013, 9:23 am

Going to see that one Smile

Not impressed that goon Tomkins is starting again though.

Lowe & Simpson added a bit of spark last week so hopefully they'll get on early.

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Post by Guest Thu 31 Jan 2013, 9:35 am

Quick back 3 may and daly super exciting

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 31 Jan 2013, 9:37 am

My man love for May is strong so you might see me chasing him down the wing (most likely in vain as he's a little faster than me).

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Post by stnick88 Thu 31 Jan 2013, 9:51 am

Don't worry Pooly, we all have a player that we have some man love for.

Yours for May is strong.

Mine was Steffon, but Yarde is coming close to taking top spot.

I think Steve and Chris share a lot of man love for Foden.

Matts is Stookes whoever he is Smile

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 31 Jan 2013, 10:03 am

Chris's just tends to be his team, especially the young ones!

His should patent the Phrase "(insert Saints team member here) has really impressed me this season"

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 31 Jan 2013, 10:11 am

Can see why they start Wiggles ahead of Simpson as Ford needs a steady, reliable player to get him through the game. Simpson is on very good form at the moment though, has impressed me the last 18months.

Also undertand why Tomkins plays as he's a big lump and gets us over the gainline, he's coming on slowly, but not sure whether either he or Lowe have the quality to get up to the next level.

Biggs is another I don't understand, but I guess he is there because he is more solid than either Daly or May - for me they are the best two young backs in England and could easily make the step up.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 31 Jan 2013, 10:12 am

Yeah I am a little concerned about my man love for young English players - I had hoped that it had gone under the radar for the last few years...

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 31 Jan 2013, 10:15 am

know Foden's brother and he is a chester boy so bias is there. I do on merit however think he is England's best full back and if I had to pick someone now for the next 5 years it would be him.

Warning one of my good friends is about to start trials with Leeds, Sale, Saints, Wales 7's and a few other sides so if he is picked up and reaches his potential the bias will be massive.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 31 Jan 2013, 10:17 am

"Simpson is on very good form at the moment though, has impressed me the last 18months."

Couldn't have timed that one better!

Biggs was great last week, Wade was pretty poor and got targeted throughout so can see why he's dropped out.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 31 Jan 2013, 10:22 am

36 starts at 12. Part of me hopes he he flourishes but I suspect he might struggle a little bit. Long term option if he is a hit though and if he isn't then we can't just discard him.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 31 Jan 2013, 10:28 am

Lets hope your mate signs for Sale so I can call him up and try to rip you off so!! Very Happy

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Post by Driver Thu 31 Jan 2013, 10:28 am

England team: Alex Goode (Saracens), Chris Ashton (Saracens), Brad Barritt (Saracens), Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester), Mike Brown (Harlequins); Owen Farrell (Saracens), Ben Youngs (Leicester); Joe Marler (Harlequins), Tom Youngs (Leicester), Dan Cole (Leicester), Joe Launchbury (London Wasps), Geoff Parling (Leicester), Tom Wood (Northampton), Chris Robshaw (Harlequins, capt), Ben Morgan (Gloucester)

Replacements: Dylan Hartley (Northampton), David Wilson (Bath), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Courtney Lawes (Northampton), James Haskell (London Wasps), Danny Care (Harlequins), Toby Flood (Leicester Tigers), David Strettle (Saracens)
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 31 Jan 2013, 10:29 am

I just think I suffer from overall England bias (unless your name is Borthwick, any Goode or Barritt).

I'd be saying the same thing about the players I like if they played for any other team - though I haven't bigged up Launchbury for a while. He's great.

Some good players in that Saxon's team - sure we got hammered by the Scot's 35-0 last year, like the look of Kruis at Sarries - think Steve has him in this game.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 31 Jan 2013, 10:31 am

No you have a definate Saints bias lol...no issue.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 31 Jan 2013, 10:39 am

I thought I hid it well.

Think main thing I like about the game is trying to find good young English players who I can then later develop man love for - so a lot of the guys I pick are my favourite English players, though I don't think I will ever persuade Mat to let me have Jonny May!

Are Saxons on tv this week? Almost got through a month of no alcohol, perfect timing with the start of the 6Nations!

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Post by Driver Thu 31 Jan 2013, 11:28 am

On Sky buddy.

Sky has also bought the rights to Ireland , France and Italy's AI internationals.
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Post by Guest Thu 31 Jan 2013, 11:53 am

I have no man love for stookes I just see all the hype and really want to see what develops.

The level if hype for him at glos is nuts. Seems to be injured a lot,

Jsd is my favourite glos player. Mike Teague my favourite glos player ever

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Post by Driver Thu 31 Jan 2013, 11:56 am

Words flying about that James Hudson is on his way to Glaws Matt?
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Post by Guest Thu 31 Jan 2013, 12:26 pm

There is every year driver. Personally I would hope we were in for better quality players he would do a job though

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Post by stnick88 Thu 31 Jan 2013, 12:37 pm

im only joking matt.

Apparently the Kendo to Glos deal fell through so its between Myall and Hudson.

I'd have Kendo back at Irish but wouldnt want to be paying masses. He's not the player he was. Always a quality lineout operator though.

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Post by Guest Thu 31 Jan 2013, 12:40 pm

I like myall more to be fair but wish we were in for higher quality operators or some South African lumps

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 31 Jan 2013, 1:08 pm

should have been james in for jenkins, owens not rees, kohn not coombs (who is a 6) and tips not penalty machine shingler. Happy with 9-15 though. should be a close game
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Post by Driver Thu 31 Jan 2013, 1:14 pm

WALES: Leigh Halfpenny (Blues); Alex Cuthbert (Blues), Jonathan Davies (Scarlets), Jamie Roberts (Blues), George North (Scarlets); Dan Biggar (Ospreys), Mike Phillips (Bayonne); Gethin Jenkins (Toulon), Matthew Rees (Scarlets), Adam Jones (Ospreys), Andrew Coombs (Dragons), Ian Evans (Ospreys), Aaron Shingler (Scarlets), Sam Warburton (Blues, capt), Toby Faletau (Dragons).
REPLACEMENTS: Ken Owens (Scarlets), Paul James (Bath), Craig Mitchell (Exeter), Olly Kohn (Harlequins), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys), Lloyd Williams (Blues), James Hook (Perpignan), Scott Williams (Scarlets).
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 31 Jan 2013, 1:28 pm

Fanying Ireland in that one.

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Post by Driver Thu 31 Jan 2013, 1:47 pm

I think it could be a big Ireland win
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Post by stnick88 Thu 31 Jan 2013, 2:14 pm

ireland should take the forward battle (bar the front row) but wales backs could do some damage.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 31 Jan 2013, 5:34 pm

Wales Mom: North
Scotland Mom: Beattie
France Mom: Fofana

Are my guesses for the results this weekend.

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Post by Guest Thu 31 Jan 2013, 6:09 pm

Welsh all my boys are back bar ferris who is 2 weeks away http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,3824_8457514,00.html

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Feb 2013, 8:53 am

Cory Jane possibly put for 2013!

http://www.rugbyweek.com/news/article.asp?id=37542

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 01 Feb 2013, 2:53 pm

Yoann Huget; Wesley Fofana, Florian Fritz, Maxime Mermoz, Benjamin Fall; Frederic Michalak, Maxime Machenaud; Yannick Forestier, Dimitri Szarzewski, Nicolas Mas, Pascal Pape (captain), Yoann Maestri, Fulgence Ouedraogo, Thierry Dusautoir, Louis Picamoles.

Replacements: Benjamin Kayser, Vincent Debaty, Luc Ducalcon, Romain Taofifenua, Damien Chouly, Morgan Parra, François Trinh-Duc, Mathieu Bastareaud.

interesting to see how Huget goes at 15 from my point of view. Great back replacements for France.

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Post by Fluxy Fri 01 Feb 2013, 3:19 pm

I reckon he will swap with Fall quite often

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 01 Feb 2013, 3:21 pm

I thought Fall would play 15 myself but be interesting to see how it goes.

In Morahan, Taylor and Chisholm I already have enough wingers who play full back and vice versa.

Particularly once I've signed Zebo off you Wink

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Post by Fluxy Fri 01 Feb 2013, 3:23 pm

You can try!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Feb 2013, 3:54 pm

Zebo has looked great this season, came on leaps

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Feb 2013, 8:27 pm

George Ford.......so bad

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 01 Feb 2013, 8:28 pm

Saxons not great full stop. Thought the U20's played (or tried to play) better rugby than this lot are.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Feb 2013, 8:39 pm

Kicking everything....badly.

Ford looks like a lost boy, sitting at FB in defence he looks totally out of his depth.

Scrum good.

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