The Crunch: Ireland v England Sunday 10th February 2013

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aka L'O'Choc: Irelande v Angleterre Dimanche le 10me Février 2013After going AWOL again yesterday, the French have most likely reduced the 6Ns title to a single game to determine the title.

Such a shame.

Discussion about the game - not about France going walkabout as originally intended.

Teams:

Greater Dublin Representative XXIII

15 - Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster/42)
14 - Craig Gilroy (Dungannon/Ulster/2)
13 - Brian O'Driscoll (UCD/Leinster/121)
12 - Gordon D'Arcy (Lansdowne/Leinster/72)
11 - Simon Zebo (Cork Constitution/Munster/4)
10 - Jonathan Sexton (St.Mary's College/Leinster/35)
9 - Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster/15)
1 - Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster/36)
2 - Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster/63)
3 - Mike Ross (Clontarf/Leinster/25)
4 - Mike McCarthy (Buccaneers/Connacht/7)
5 - Donnacha Ryan (Shannon/Munster/24)
6 - Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster/10)
7 - Sean O'Brien (UCD/Leinster/23)
8 - Jamie Heaslip (Dublin University/Leinster/53) Captain

Replacements:

16 - Sean Cronin (St. Mary's College/Leinster/23)
17 - David Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster/3)
18 - Declan Fitzpatrick (Dungannon/Ulster/3)
19 - Donncha O'Callaghan (Cork Constitution/Munster/91)
20 - Chris Henry (Malone/Ulster/5)
21 - Eoin Reddan (Lansdowne/Leinster/48)
22 - Ronan O'Gara (Cork Constitution/Munster/126)
23 - Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster/35)

The Perfidious Albion

15. Alex Goode (Saracens, 7 caps)
14. Chris Ashton (Saracens, 30 caps)
13. Brad Barritt (Saracens, 12 caps)
12. Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester Rugby, 1 caps)
11. Mike Brown (Harlequins, 12 caps)
10. Owen Farrell (Saracens, 13 caps)
9. Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 29 caps)

1. Joe Marler (Harlequins, 6 caps)
2. Tom Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 5 caps)
3. Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 36 caps)
4. Joe Launchbury (London Wasps, 5 caps)
5. Geoff Parling (Leicester Tigers, 13 caps)
6. James Haskell (London Wasps, 46 caps)
7. Chris Robshaw (Harlequins, capt, 13 caps)
8. Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 10 caps)

Replacements
16. Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints, 43 caps)
17. David Wilson (Bath Rugby, 23 caps)
18. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 5 caps)
19. Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 16 caps)
20. Thomas Waldrom (Leicester Tigers, 4 caps)
21. Danny Care (Harlequins, 38 caps)
22. Toby Flood (Leicester Tigers, 54 caps)
23. Manusamoa Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers, 17 caps)

cheers for that ROG

O gara is so poor it's staggering how he's in the squad

I have to ask, yet again, why is Kearney not taking those type of kicks?

Murry and ROG are rubbish and killing any attack.

Why doesn't Kearney take all these kicks to touch With his massive boot?

valjester wrote:I have to ask, yet again, why is Kearney not taking those type of kicks?

And again. Seriously give the f**king ball to Kearney and f**k off into a cave and die you pr**k.

another stat to show how much robshaw does.

mystiroakey wrote:this game is making me feel ill..

What is it about playing in Dublin

It's been a hard unhappy hunting ground for engl. Ireland are good and they're at home. It'll never be easy.

Yellow card for england

Is Reddan Murray's replacement?

Heeeeere comes the yellow...!?

if he gets yellowed that is bang out of order..

what the heck is wrong with that ref

Haskell in the bin...that could be the turning point in this game.

pathetic decision

Harsh yellow really.

Bugger.

That's got to be it then. Ireland's day. Shame eng couldn't keep up the intensity.

That is one of the stupidest penalties I've seen in a while.

that is harsh I think

Haskell in the bin. Don't know why he's protesting so much. What a load of balls. Ireland need to take advantage of this.

Terrible decision. Absolutely farcical

Well he has been pinging both teams for not rolling away all day so it's probably justified .

6-6

Early days yet...

6-6 at 57 minutes.

Sooooo, in a match where an irish player stamps on a prone player in front of the ref = no yellow

player tries to get out of the ruck = yellow card



pffffft

This looks like a 9-9 raw (I hope)

I think Haskell may have gotten the yellow due to it being particularly brainless, and it being the third penalty by England in quick succession.

nathan wrote:pathetic decision

Disagree, it was a fair decision by the referee.

Anyone else note SOB is acting as first receiver now instead of butterfingers heaslip

Do you think SL pre-empts the subs?

Team yellow then?

Yep it happens. It was brainless.

I said earlier a draw would be deserved.

Ref telling England off for delaying things.

nathan wrote:Sooooo, in a match where an irish player stamps on a prone player in front of the ref = no yellow

player tries to get out of the ruck = yellow card



pffffft

Healy will pay with a ban, Haskell wasn't trying to get out, he was trying to spoil.

Biltong wrote:

nathan wrote:pathetic decision

Disagree, it was a fair decision by the referee.

I thought it was fair when i saw a second angle but the one from behind, he was clearly trying to get his leg out from under a body IMO. Would have been less galling if Healy had got carded earlier.

nathan wrote:Sooooo, in a match where an irish player stamps on a prone player in front of the ref = no yellow

player tries to get out of the ruck = yellow card



pffffft

Well he didn't see the stamp so there was nothing he could have done.


He clearly kicked the ball when 'trying' to get out. Was a definite penalty. And persistent infringing made it a yellow

WillyGilly wrote:Anyone else note SOB is acting as first receiver now instead of butterfingers heaslip

I heard the commentator saying they'd swapped places I think.

Chilli what are doing?

Clever by kearney

Pheeew! That was close. Knocked on.

That was good vision actually, could have bounced anywhere.

how did he miss that pen!!!

argggg!!!

nathan wrote:Sooooo, in a match where an irish player stamps on a prone player in front of the ref = no yellow

player tries to get out of the ruck = yellow card



pffffft

Wind your neck in son

Bad luck for tuilagi there, he just needed a more friendly bounce.

Golden wrote:

nathan wrote:Sooooo, in a match where an irish player stamps on a prone player in front of the ref = no yellow

player tries to get out of the ruck = yellow card



pffffft

Well he didn't see the stamp so there was nothing he could have done.


He clearly kicked the ball when 'trying' to get out. Was a definite penalty. And persistent infringing made it a yellow

i dont buy the "he didn't see it", he was stood in front.

Farrell kicking for the posts. Perfect.

6-9 at 63 minutes.

My Welsh friend just texted me saying dubious yellow. If it had been a penalty it's a definite yellow for persistent infringement. But it wasn't

Haskell is such a dummy isn't he. Sitting there seeing the pressure he has put his side.

Must be true if a Welshman said it.

that looked a bit dodgy, did they go for manu's hand and not the ball?

the game is starting to open up now. will be an interesting end.

Sugar lAws looks very hurt.

Good tackle by Lawes except he's hurt himself.

He is out. Head tackle. Silly boy.

Ha ha look at DOC, he's well up for it.

Hope Lawes isn't seriously hurt.

there actually booing because someones knocked out?