The Crunch: Ireland v England Sunday 10th February 2013

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aka L'O'Choc: Irelande v Angleterre Dimanche le 10me Février 2013After going AWOL again yesterday, the French have most likely reduced the 6Ns title to a single game to determine the title.

Such a shame.

Discussion about the game - not about France going walkabout as originally intended.

Teams:

Greater Dublin Representative XXIII

15 - Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster/42)
14 - Craig Gilroy (Dungannon/Ulster/2)
13 - Brian O'Driscoll (UCD/Leinster/121)
12 - Gordon D'Arcy (Lansdowne/Leinster/72)
11 - Simon Zebo (Cork Constitution/Munster/4)
10 - Jonathan Sexton (St.Mary's College/Leinster/35)
9 - Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster/15)
1 - Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster/36)
2 - Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster/63)
3 - Mike Ross (Clontarf/Leinster/25)
4 - Mike McCarthy (Buccaneers/Connacht/7)
5 - Donnacha Ryan (Shannon/Munster/24)
6 - Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster/10)
7 - Sean O'Brien (UCD/Leinster/23)
8 - Jamie Heaslip (Dublin University/Leinster/53) Captain

Replacements:

16 - Sean Cronin (St. Mary's College/Leinster/23)
17 - David Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster/3)
18 - Declan Fitzpatrick (Dungannon/Ulster/3)
19 - Donncha O'Callaghan (Cork Constitution/Munster/91)
20 - Chris Henry (Malone/Ulster/5)
21 - Eoin Reddan (Lansdowne/Leinster/48)
22 - Ronan O'Gara (Cork Constitution/Munster/126)
23 - Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster/35)

The Perfidious Albion

15. Alex Goode (Saracens, 7 caps)
14. Chris Ashton (Saracens, 30 caps)
13. Brad Barritt (Saracens, 12 caps)
12. Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester Rugby, 1 caps)
11. Mike Brown (Harlequins, 12 caps)
10. Owen Farrell (Saracens, 13 caps)
9. Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 29 caps)

1. Joe Marler (Harlequins, 6 caps)
2. Tom Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 5 caps)
3. Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 36 caps)
4. Joe Launchbury (London Wasps, 5 caps)
5. Geoff Parling (Leicester Tigers, 13 caps)
6. James Haskell (London Wasps, 46 caps)
7. Chris Robshaw (Harlequins, capt, 13 caps)
8. Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 10 caps)

Replacements
16. Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints, 43 caps)
17. David Wilson (Bath Rugby, 23 caps)
18. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 5 caps)
19. Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 16 caps)
20. Thomas Waldrom (Leicester Tigers, 4 caps)
21. Danny Care (Harlequins, 38 caps)
22. Toby Flood (Leicester Tigers, 54 caps)
23. Manusamoa Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers, 17 caps)

nathan wrote:

Golden wrote:

nathan wrote:Sooooo, in a match where an irish player stamps on a prone player in front of the ref = no yellow

player tries to get out of the ruck = yellow card



pffffft

Well he didn't see the stamp so there was nothing he could have done.


He clearly kicked the ball when 'trying' to get out. Was a definite penalty. And persistent infringing made it a yellow

i dont buy the "he didn't see it", he was stood in front.

So the ref saw a deliberate stamp and didn't act on it? Aye good one.

FFS, Rog putting us under pressure by kicking so poorly, and Kearney hasn't had a poor game.

Trying to beat ireland in dublin for engaldn is trying to climb everet without any clothes on....

Come on england keep it up!!

WillyGilly wrote:

nathan wrote:

Golden wrote:

nathan wrote:Sooooo, in a match where an irish player stamps on a prone player in front of the ref = no yellow

player tries to get out of the ruck = yellow card



pffffft

Well he didn't see the stamp so there was nothing he could have done.


He clearly kicked the ball when 'trying' to get out. Was a definite penalty. And persistent infringing made it a yellow

i dont buy the "he didn't see it", he was stood in front.

So the ref saw a deliberate stamp and didn't act on it? Aye good one.

it's not unheard of mate.....

ChequeredJersey wrote:My Welsh friend just texted me saying dubious yellow. If it had been a penalty it's a definite yellow for persistent infringement. But it wasn't

Haskell got a yellow because he touched the ball on purpose with his right foot while getting away from the ruck. Not dubious at all.

OH legend

nathan wrote:there actually booing because someones knocked out?

Probably because the clock wasn't stopped for his treatment.

Bit of a singing contest going on.

Schitt. 6-12 at 65 minutes.

mystiroakey wrote:Trying to beat ireland in dublin for engaldn is trying to climb everet without any clothes on....

Come on england keep it up!!

Haha. Nice one

Easier to find a virgin in Camborne than a win in Dublin,

some great kicking by farrell

whocares wrote:

ChequeredJersey wrote:My Welsh friend just texted me saying dubious yellow. If it had been a penalty it's a definite yellow for persistent infringement. But it wasn't

Haskell got a yellow because he touched the ball on purpose with his right foot while getting away from the ruck. Not dubious at all.

it looked like that from the first angle, not the second though. but hey, its done now.

England 6 Ireland 3 when we have the advantage. Only a try will do now boys.

Gilroy is that youngster that made his debut against Fiji last year?

Haskell back on now and england get all the points whilst he was off. Good grief.

That's him biltong

Biltong wrote:Gilroy is that youngster that made his debut against Fiji last year?

Yes that's him Biltong.

Cheers Golden

ROG started well, but i think he's gone down hill now.

How many times do we get penalized for that.

Have to take the points here

Jeez O'Gara can't even get a kick into the English 22...

Geez that was so blatant from england in that maul.

we're starting to give away too many penalties.

Awh schitt ROG could've done with that.

6-12 at 70 minutes.

And O'Gara keeps missing them.

Game over?

Hartley went straight through the middle surely

come on england, good defense a give away no penalties.

well played goode, steady the ship.

Good, pieman's on

The one thing O Gara has to do and he misses

Ireland have had all the possession and nothing to show for it.

An Irish commentator has to come out and say that Rog is no longer good enough. He has been appalling in every aspect of play.

Good take by Brown.

Time just being wasted now.

ben youngs- what a take and run.. best play of this game

Argh ROG!

Who's Ireland's third choice flyhalf...?

valjester wrote:An Irish commentator has to come out and say that Rog is no longer good enough. He has been appalling in every aspect of play.

He's been beyond awful. One of the worst performances I've seen

Cari wrote:Argh ROG!

Who's Ireland's third choice flyhalf...?

Probably Jackson. Rog should be ninetieth.

OF-- grrrrr

Referee being a tad inconsistent there, he blows Ireland quickly for holding but in the previous ruck there were two Irish players to turn over the ball and england held on

Ireland will need a sodding miracle to win this now...it's unlikely that Farrell will miss this....oh OK...

6-12 at 74 minutes.

Healy and Best replaced.

Biltong wrote:Referee being a tad inconsistent there, he blows Ireland quickly for holding but in the previous ruck there were two Irish players to turn over the ball and england held on

neither of the irish players had there hands on the ball.

Garrgggj, did you have to miss now Farrell?!!

Whisker wide. That would have been the game. Best easily Ireland's best player. Makes absolute sense to sub him kidney...

Golden wrote:

valjester wrote:An Irish commentator has to come out and say that Rog is no longer good enough. He has been appalling in every aspect of play.

He's been beyond awful. One of the worst performances I've seen

I bet you the only thing people will complain about is that he missed a kick, not the fact everything he touched turned to sh*t.

This is one of the most physical games i have ever seen!!

The lads need a weekend spa break after this

When does BOD's paternity leave start?

I won't be watching the Red Button after this...you just know it'll be all talk about a GS...

ROG is too old and slow give a younger player a chance. ROG has blown any chance in this game.

This signals the end of Kidney.

Ireland making a meal of getting it out their own half.

LeinsterFan4life wrote:This signals the end of Kidney.

P45 in the post as we speak...

This david wilson is almost as scary as sheridan!