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Post by blackcanelion Wed 20 Feb 2013, 5:35 am

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Just wondering if former internationals make better coaches. In NZ we generally believe that you can't be an AB's coach if you haven't played for them. My feeling is no. I think they are probably the greatest specialist coaches. My feeling is that head coaches are in effect managers and there is no reason why people who haven't played at the very top can't be as good or better.

Here's some examples:
NZ
Sir Brian Lochore 1985–1987 Former All Black, ok as coach
Alex Wyllie 1988–1991 Former All Black, great coach
Laurie Mains 1992–1995 Former All Black, bloody aweful as coach
John Hart 1996–1999 very good coach coach
Wayne Smith 2000–2001 Former All Black, ok as coach
John Mitchell 2002–2003 Former All Black, good coach
Sir Graham Henry 2004–2011 great coach
Steve Hansen 1012- To early to say

Other coaches who i don't think represented their country as players include Lancaster, Ashton, Rowell and Cooke - England; Dwyer, Smith Jones, MacQuuen, Connelly - Australia, McIntosh, Christie, White De Villiers and Meyer - South Africa.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:02 pm

Cheers mister OK

For the record I agree with you, but not for his international coaching/management credentials, he's just not British or Irish!

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Post by Cyril Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:04 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:You may not be but I am amply qualified!
Laugh I've read your comments on this forum and (no offence) I've heard better and more reasoned argument from a lunatic dad on the sidelines at a junior game. It sounds like you've read the odd manual (and like to quote it but largely misunderstood it).

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:07 pm

thats allright blues... I would to give us normal lads a chance an all!!

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:15 pm

Cyril

That says more about you than it does me mate OK

Mister

When I get the chance to take us to NZ in 4 years I'll give you a tinkle as an advisor Laugh

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Post by Cyril Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:18 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:Cyril

That says more about you than it does me mate OK
As I said, I'm no expert either.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:21 pm

On the rugby or on forum interperetation into career prospects?

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Post by Cyril Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:25 pm

On being a Lions coach.

Though it is pretty easy to tell when someone is blagging it.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:29 pm

Really which Lions coaches have 'blagged it' then?

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Post by Cyril Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:31 pm

What are you on about?

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:33 pm

Well you claim it's easy to spot lions coaches who 'blagged it', lets hear them?

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Post by Cyril Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:34 pm

I'm talking about prospective ones.

The 'prospective' bit being only in their noggin.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:35 pm

So which perspective coaches were blagging it when applying for Gats job then?

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Post by Cyril Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:37 pm

"perspective"?

What perspective?

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:41 pm

hahaha

The last actions of a defeated man!

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Post by Cyril Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:42 pm

Well, come on. It's a completely different word!

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Post by thebluesmancometh Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:44 pm

OK youve bored me now mate, take care.

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Post by Cyril Fri 22 Feb 2013, 3:00 pm

Fair enough dude.

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