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Post by iade360 Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:19 pm

Documentary on BBC4 on Sunday. 9pm.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01r5mhb

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Post by Rowley Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:28 pm

Cheers for this will set the sky plus. Not really relevant but off the top of my head my top five boxing films in no particular order are.

Raging Bull
Somebody Up there likes Me
The Harder they Fall
The Great White Hope
On the Waterfront (tenuous but still a top film)

As an aside there is going to be a film made about Billy Miske with Sam Rockwell in it based on Clay Moyle’s biography of Miske. Thought I’d mention it as Clay is an occasional user of 606.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:54 pm

2 Stanley Kubrick films to recommend but I am sure you guys have seen them,

1) Day of the fight - 1950 Documentary of Irish middleweight Walter Cartier. Nat Fleischer is also in it. Very interesting doc with a brief intro of boxing history at the beginning.

2) Killer's kiss - Film noir by Kubrick.

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Post by Union Cane Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:12 pm

You missed Rocky V, Jeff.

Has anyone seen Resurrecting The Champ?

Got the DVD for Christmas but haven't got round to watching it yet.
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Post by Sam_London Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:58 pm

The best boxing film I've seen is the documentary 'When we were Kings' which follows the build up and aftermath of the 'Rumble in the Jungle' between Ali and Foreman. A must see for all boxing (and non boxing) fans.

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Post by jimdig Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:23 am

I've heard that there is a Duran, film being made. Usher is playing srl. Can't remember who's lined up for Duran, or the director. One for google.

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Post by Rowley Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:27 am

jimdig wrote: Can't remember who's lined up for Duran, or the director.

You paint a vivid picture Jim!

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Post by seanmichaels Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:31 am

serious cast.....

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Post by seanmichaels Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:31 am

Ha ha. Vinny off of Home and Away is gonna play Ken Buchanan!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:33 am

I hate Boxing movies........

1. The fighting is awful in them.......
2. The actors never "get" their subject....
3. They are always historically inaccurate.
4. They are too mushy....

If you're a rolled like a drunk fan...I suggest you avoid his movie..

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Post by Union Cane Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:34 am

Gael García Bernal (me neither) is to play Duran, director is Jonathon Jakubowicz (me neither).

The grimacing parody of his former self Robert De Niro is to play Ray Arcel.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1781827/
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Post by seanmichaels Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:35 am

Union Cane wrote:Gael García Bernal (me neither) is to play Duran, director is Jonathon Jakubowicz (me neither).

The grimacing parody of his former self Robert De Niro is to play Ray Arcel.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1781827/

Thanks for finding that UC.

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Post by 88Chris05 Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:36 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:If you're a rolled like a drunk fan...I suggest you avoid his movie..

To be fair, if even a die hard Duran fan like me can manage to sit through Hearns thrashing him to within an inch of his life, then sitting through this should be a piece of cake.
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Post by Rowley Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:36 am

Gael Garcia Bernal was in a film called the King co starring William Hurt. Slow but engrossing would be my review.

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Post by Union Cane Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:37 am

seanmichaels wrote:Thanks for finding that UC.

No problem.
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Post by seanmichaels Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:40 am

Union Cane wrote:
seanmichaels wrote:Thanks for finding that UC.

No problem.

Only joking. Realise you guys are all on plusnet so bound to be a bit slow.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:40 am

Wonder who gets to play the horse in the Duran movie.....

Maybe Tophat can be the front and Azania the back.........

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:22 am

Found this movie on youtube about boxing

it very good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN8akPzjuNg

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:44 am

Million dollar baby is the best boxing film

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Post by bhb001 Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:25 am

Diggstown with James Woods. Enjoyed it when I saw it by accident 15 years ago, but doubt I'd feel the same way now. It's like the Sting for boxing!!

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:30 am

victorgarco wrote:Million dollar baby is the best boxing film

vomit Sorry

Anybody seen Requiem For a Heavyweight?

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Post by azania Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:35 am

Penitentiary is a great boxing movie.

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Post by seanmichaels Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:36 am

I like The Fighter

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Post by superflyweight Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:53 am

bhb001 wrote:Diggstown with James Woods. Enjoyed it when I saw it by accident 15 years ago, but doubt I'd feel the same way now. It's like the Sting for boxing!!

Am sure it was called Midnight Sting originally. Good film but been a while sine I watched it. Watched the Fighter again yesterday, its a good film about family but not necessarily a great boxing film - the bits about boxing are the weakest parts of the film.

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Post by seanmichaels Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:49 pm

Watched The Hangover Part 2 last night. Thoroughly enjoyed Iron Mike Tyson's cameo. That bloke can jive......

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Post by Valero's Conscience Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:51 pm

In regards to the Duran film, you forgot that Usher (RnB star to the older folks on here) is playing SRL

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:03 pm

jimdig wrote: I've heard that there is a Duran, film being made. Usher is playing srl. Can't remember who's lined up for Duran, or the director. One for google.

Valero's Conscience wrote:In regards to the Duran film, you forgot that Usher (RnB star to the older folks on here) is playing SRL

Reading the thread is always a good start.

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Post by bhb001 Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:11 pm

superflyweight wrote:
bhb001 wrote:Diggstown with James Woods. Enjoyed it when I saw it by accident 15 years ago, but doubt I'd feel the same way now. It's like the Sting for boxing!!

Am sure it was called Midnight Sting originally. Good film but been a while sine I watched it. Watched the Fighter again yesterday, its a good film about family but not necessarily a great boxing film - the bits about boxing are the weakest parts of the film.

You're right about the name of the film. I believe the name was changed for the UK market in much the same way as the Street Fighter was changed from Hard Times. Charles Bronson at his best.

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Post by seanmichaels Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:17 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
jimdig wrote: I've heard that there is a Duran, film being made. Usher is playing srl. Can't remember who's lined up for Duran, or the director. One for google.

Valero's Conscience wrote:In regards to the Duran film, you forgot that Usher (RnB star to the older folks on here) is playing SRL

Reading the thread is always a good start.

who rattled your cage?

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:21 pm

seanmichaels wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
jimdig wrote: I've heard that there is a Duran, film being made. Usher is playing srl. Can't remember who's lined up for Duran, or the director. One for google.

Valero's Conscience wrote:In regards to the Duran film, you forgot that Usher (RnB star to the older folks on here) is playing SRL

Reading the thread is always a good start.

who rattled your cage?

Valero's Conscience. Surely that is obvious?

Mind the windows Tino.
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Post by seanmichaels Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:32 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
seanmichaels wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
jimdig wrote: I've heard that there is a Duran, film being made. Usher is playing srl. Can't remember who's lined up for Duran, or the director. One for google.

Valero's Conscience wrote:In regards to the Duran film, you forgot that Usher (RnB star to the older folks on here) is playing SRL

Reading the thread is always a good start.

who rattled your cage?

Valero's Conscience. Surely that is obvious?

No.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:33 pm

seanmichaels wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
seanmichaels wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
jimdig wrote: I've heard that there is a Duran, film being made. Usher is playing srl. Can't remember who's lined up for Duran, or the director. One for google.

Valero's Conscience wrote:In regards to the Duran film, you forgot that Usher (RnB star to the older folks on here) is playing SRL

Reading the thread is always a good start.

who rattled your cage?

Valero's Conscience. Surely that is obvious?

No.

Then you are clearly beyond all help so I shall stop trying.

Mind the windows Tino.
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Post by seanmichaels Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:36 pm

Do you need a hug?

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:37 pm

seanmichaels wrote:Do you need a hug?

Not particularly.

Mind the windows Tino.
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Post by Union Cane Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:22 pm

More in-depth preview of the show here :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tv/posts/Boxing-At-The-Movies-Kings-Of-The-Ring
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Post by hampo17 Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:10 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I hate Boxing movies........

1. The fighting is awful in them.......
2. The actors never "get" their subject....
3. They are always historically inaccurate.
4. They are too mushy....

If you're a rolled like a drunk fan...I suggest you avoid his movie..

Great point, I remember in The Fighter, Shane Neary was scottish. Strange considering he's from Everton.

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Post by Union Cane Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:12 am

hampo171 wrote:Great point, I remember in The Fighter, Shane Neary was scottish. Strange considering he's from Everton.

The weight difference between Ward and Mungin was massively exaggerated as well.
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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:13 am

Union Cane wrote:
hampo171 wrote:Great point, I remember in The Fighter, Shane Neary was scottish. Strange considering he's from Everton.

The weight difference between Ward and Mungin was massively exaggerated as well.

Although nowhere near as exaggerated as Christian Bales portrayal of Dickie Eklund.

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:19 am

[quote="Mind the windows Tino."]
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hampo171 wrote:Great point, I remember in The Fighter, Shane Neary was scottish. Strange considering he's from Everton.

The weight difference between Ward and Mungin was massively exaggerated as well.

Although nowhere near as exaggerated as Christian Bales portrayal of Dickie Eklund.[/quote]

I've not seen the film itself, but from the odd clip & peoples opinions who have I believe this is the case after watching the HBO documentary 'High On Crack Street' which it was taken from/based on, Dickie comes across as a fairly quiet guy, although there's not masses of footage of him & lets remember he was a crackhead commiting robberies & getting into some fights, seemed an ok guy though.

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Post by Guest Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:58 am

Best boxing movie ever...Let's Do It again. Bill Cosby and Sidney Poitier play two conmen trying to fix a World title fight with predictably "hilarious" consequences.

Time and alcohol may have dimmed/massively over-exaggerated how funny it actually is but it's definitely a change from the serious high brow biopic most boxing movies tend to be.

Failing that...Orlando Bloom in "The Calcium Kid" Never seen it but it surfaced round about the time women were creaming (Calcium...milk...cream...geddit? Nevermind!) themselves over Legolas in Lord of the Rings...apparantly, this stinker should have stayed buried.

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