Boxing at the movies: Kings of the Ring

by iade360 Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:19 am

Documentary on BBC4 on Sunday. 9pm.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01r5mhb

by Rowley Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:28 am

Cheers for this will set the sky plus. Not really relevant but off the top of my head my top five boxing films in no particular order are.

Raging Bull
Somebody Up there likes Me
The Harder they Fall
The Great White Hope
On the Waterfront (tenuous but still a top film)

As an aside there is going to be a film made about Billy Miske with Sam Rockwell in it based on Clay Moyle’s biography of Miske. Thought I’d mention it as Clay is an occasional user of 606.

by ONETWOFOREVER Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:54 am

2 Stanley Kubrick films to recommend but I am sure you guys have seen them,

1) Day of the fight - 1950 Documentary of Irish middleweight Walter Cartier. Nat Fleischer is also in it. Very interesting doc with a brief intro of boxing history at the beginning.

2) Killer's kiss - Film noir by Kubrick.

by **Union Cane** Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:12 am

You missed Rocky V, Jeff.

Has anyone seen Resurrecting The Champ?

Got the DVD for Christmas but haven't got round to watching it yet.

by Sam_London Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:58 am

The best boxing film I've seen is the documentary 'When we were Kings' which follows the build up and aftermath of the 'Rumble in the Jungle' between Ali and Foreman. A must see for all boxing (and non boxing) fans.

by jimdig Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:23 pm

I've heard that there is a Duran, film being made. Usher is playing srl. Can't remember who's lined up for Duran, or the director. One for google.

by Rowley Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:27 pm

jimdig wrote: Can't remember who's lined up for Duran, or the director.

You paint a vivid picture Jim!

by **seanmichaels** Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:31 pm

serious cast.....

by **seanmichaels** Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:31 pm

Ha ha. Vinny off of Home and Away is gonna play Ken Buchanan!

by TRUSSMAN66 Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:33 pm

I hate Boxing movies........

1. The fighting is awful in them.......
2. The actors never "get" their subject....
3. They are always historically inaccurate.
4. They are too mushy....

If you're a rolled like a drunk fan...I suggest you avoid his movie..

by **Union Cane** Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:34 pm

Gael García Bernal (me neither) is to play Duran, director is Jonathon Jakubowicz (me neither).

The grimacing parody of his former self Robert De Niro is to play Ray Arcel.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1781827/

by **seanmichaels** Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:35 pm

Union Cane wrote:Gael García Bernal (me neither) is to play Duran, director is Jonathon Jakubowicz (me neither).

The grimacing parody of his former self Robert De Niro is to play Ray Arcel.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1781827/

Thanks for finding that UC.

by **88Chris05** Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:36 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:If you're a rolled like a drunk fan...I suggest you avoid his movie..

To be fair, if even a die hard Duran fan like me can manage to sit through Hearns thrashing him to within an inch of his life, then sitting through this should be a piece of cake.

by Rowley Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:36 pm

Gael Garcia Bernal was in a film called the King co starring William Hurt. Slow but engrossing would be my review.

by **Union Cane** Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:37 pm

seanmichaels wrote:Thanks for finding that UC.

No problem.

by **seanmichaels** Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:40 pm

Union Cane wrote:
seanmichaels wrote:Thanks for finding that UC.

No problem.

Only joking. Realise you guys are all on plusnet so bound to be a bit slow.

by TRUSSMAN66 Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:40 pm

Wonder who gets to play the horse in the Duran movie.....

Maybe Tophat can be the front and Azania the back.........

by ONETWOFOREVER Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:22 pm

Found this movie on youtube about boxing

it very good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN8akPzjuNg

by Champagne_Socialist Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:44 pm

Million dollar baby is the best boxing film

by bhb001 Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:25 pm

Diggstown with James Woods. Enjoyed it when I saw it by accident 15 years ago, but doubt I'd feel the same way now. It's like the Sting for boxing!!

by John Bloody Wayne Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:30 pm

victorgarco wrote:Million dollar baby is the best boxing film

Anybody seen Requiem For a Heavyweight?

by azania Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:35 pm

Penitentiary is a great boxing movie.

by **seanmichaels** Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:36 pm

I like The Fighter

by **superflyweight** Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:53 pm

bhb001 wrote:Diggstown with James Woods. Enjoyed it when I saw it by accident 15 years ago, but doubt I'd feel the same way now. It's like the Sting for boxing!!

Am sure it was called Midnight Sting originally. Good film but been a while sine I watched it. Watched the Fighter again yesterday, its a good film about family but not necessarily a great boxing film - the bits about boxing are the weakest parts of the film.

by **seanmichaels** Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:49 am

Watched The Hangover Part 2 last night. Thoroughly enjoyed Iron Mike Tyson's cameo. That bloke can jive......

by Valero's Conscience Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:51 am

In regards to the Duran film, you forgot that Usher (RnB star to the older folks on here) is playing SRL

by Mind the windows Tino. Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:03 pm

jimdig wrote: I've heard that there is a Duran, film being made. Usher is playing srl. Can't remember who's lined up for Duran, or the director. One for google.

Valero's Conscience wrote:In regards to the Duran film, you forgot that Usher (RnB star to the older folks on here) is playing SRL

Reading the thread is always a good start.

by bhb001 Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:11 pm

superflyweight wrote:
bhb001 wrote:Diggstown with James Woods. Enjoyed it when I saw it by accident 15 years ago, but doubt I'd feel the same way now. It's like the Sting for boxing!!

Am sure it was called Midnight Sting originally. Good film but been a while sine I watched it. Watched the Fighter again yesterday, its a good film about family but not necessarily a great boxing film - the bits about boxing are the weakest parts of the film.

You're right about the name of the film. I believe the name was changed for the UK market in much the same way as the Street Fighter was changed from Hard Times. Charles Bronson at his best.

by **seanmichaels** Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:17 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
jimdig wrote: I've heard that there is a Duran, film being made. Usher is playing srl. Can't remember who's lined up for Duran, or the director. One for google.

Valero's Conscience wrote:In regards to the Duran film, you forgot that Usher (RnB star to the older folks on here) is playing SRL

Reading the thread is always a good start.

who rattled your cage?

by Mind the windows Tino. Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:21 pm

seanmichaels wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
jimdig wrote: I've heard that there is a Duran, film being made. Usher is playing srl. Can't remember who's lined up for Duran, or the director. One for google.

Valero's Conscience wrote:In regards to the Duran film, you forgot that Usher (RnB star to the older folks on here) is playing SRL

Reading the thread is always a good start.

who rattled your cage?

Valero's Conscience. Surely that is obvious?

by **seanmichaels** Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:32 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
seanmichaels wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
jimdig wrote: I've heard that there is a Duran, film being made. Usher is playing srl. Can't remember who's lined up for Duran, or the director. One for google.

Valero's Conscience wrote:In regards to the Duran film, you forgot that Usher (RnB star to the older folks on here) is playing SRL

Reading the thread is always a good start.

who rattled your cage?

Valero's Conscience. Surely that is obvious?

No.

by Mind the windows Tino. Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:33 pm

seanmichaels wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
seanmichaels wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
jimdig wrote: I've heard that there is a Duran, film being made. Usher is playing srl. Can't remember who's lined up for Duran, or the director. One for google.

Valero's Conscience wrote:In regards to the Duran film, you forgot that Usher (RnB star to the older folks on here) is playing SRL

Reading the thread is always a good start.

who rattled your cage?

Valero's Conscience. Surely that is obvious?

No.

Then you are clearly beyond all help so I shall stop trying.

by **seanmichaels** Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:36 pm

Do you need a hug?

by Mind the windows Tino. Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:37 pm

seanmichaels wrote:Do you need a hug?

Not particularly.

by **Union Cane** Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:22 pm

More in-depth preview of the show here :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tv/posts/Boxing-At-The-Movies-Kings-Of-The-Ring

by **hampo17** Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:10 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I hate Boxing movies........

1. The fighting is awful in them.......
2. The actors never "get" their subject....
3. They are always historically inaccurate.
4. They are too mushy....

If you're a rolled like a drunk fan...I suggest you avoid his movie..

Great point, I remember in The Fighter, Shane Neary was scottish. Strange considering he's from Everton.

by **Union Cane** Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:12 pm

hampo171 wrote:Great point, I remember in The Fighter, Shane Neary was scottish. Strange considering he's from Everton.

The weight difference between Ward and Mungin was massively exaggerated as well.

by Mind the windows Tino. Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:13 pm

Union Cane wrote:
hampo171 wrote:Great point, I remember in The Fighter, Shane Neary was scottish. Strange considering he's from Everton.

The weight difference between Ward and Mungin was massively exaggerated as well.

Although nowhere near as exaggerated as Christian Bales portrayal of Dickie Eklund.

by Guest Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:19 pm

[quote="Mind the windows Tino."]

Union Cane wrote:
hampo171 wrote:Great point, I remember in The Fighter, Shane Neary was scottish. Strange considering he's from Everton.

The weight difference between Ward and Mungin was massively exaggerated as well.

Although nowhere near as exaggerated as Christian Bales portrayal of Dickie Eklund.[/quote]

I've not seen the film itself, but from the odd clip & peoples opinions who have I believe this is the case after watching the HBO documentary 'High On Crack Street' which it was taken from/based on, Dickie comes across as a fairly quiet guy, although there's not masses of footage of him & lets remember he was a crackhead commiting robberies & getting into some fights, seemed an ok guy though.

by Guest Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:58 pm

Best boxing movie ever...Let's Do It again. Bill Cosby and Sidney Poitier play two conmen trying to fix a World title fight with predictably "hilarious" consequences.

Time and alcohol may have dimmed/massively over-exaggerated how funny it actually is but it's definitely a change from the serious high brow biopic most boxing movies tend to be.

Failing that...Orlando Bloom in "The Calcium Kid" Never seen it but it surfaced round about the time women were creaming (Calcium...milk...cream...geddit? Nevermind!) themselves over Legolas in Lord of the Rings...apparantly, this stinker should have stayed buried.

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