Edinburgh vs. Ulster (22 March)

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Does anyone know if this game is going to be televised?

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Anyone else think the touch judge on the East stand side looks a bit like Damian Lewis!?

Wow, Paddy Jackson really doesn't enjoy goal kicking at Murrayfiled does he!?

Score?

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Score?

Edinburgh 6-3 up. 54 minutes gone

Makes that 11-3 up!!!!! Try for McInaly

Sadly though Piers Francis does his best Godman conversion and misses in front of the posts

Edinburgh's defence has been great today, we have been so poor too, Marshall is now off and he had a very very poor night

Ulster should have had 2 penalties. One for the Edinburgh loosehead in the scrum and one for the 8 tackling Williams from an offside position as he went for the line.

you wee beauty Andy Trimble with the finish great work from the back's Payne did fantastic to hold on to the pass too lol

Bit of luck there that the pass from Allen wasn't called forward.

I think if Jackson could never go back to Murrayfield he would take it

Don't think it was forward if it went forward then it was not passed forward the ball going forward ironically isn't the defination of a forward pass lol

How did we not score there???? Rugby's version of an open goal

That was such blatant obsrtuction that surely must be a yellow card

That's got to be the longest ever penalty advantage there???

Latest Score anyone?

How can Hodges give that? Cave was blatantly trying to get away as quickly as possible.

RDSguru wrote:Latest Score anyone?

Edinburgh 14 - 8 up. 5 minutes left...

That was harsh on Cave I haven't been impressed with Leighton tonight but Ulster have made too many mistakes again it's been our problema dn we are not getting any go forward from the forwards and then the backs give us go forward but then are not there to take advantage from it. Great defence by Edinburgh too still beats looking out at the snow gathering outside lol

Fresh advantage G! Think this penalty will win it, bar another Francis special.

Jim Neilly keeps saying this is the end of our season. Has the man not heard of;

a) The Heineken Cup
b) The PLAYOFF SYSTEM

Its frustrating but Edinburgh deserve this, unless we can pull out a seven pointer from somewhere.

Thanks GLove...

Time never stopped from when Hodges said "Time off" to "Time back on"

We won a game!!!

Remarkable, fair play, Embra, they do have some guts after all

Sigh.

Certainly an improved performance from Ulster, but still not accurate enough. Goal kicking ultimately cost us very dearly. Thought Edinburgh were superb; organised in defence, accurate in attack, committed to fight for every blade of grass.

Really, quite easily, the best I've seen Edinburgh play since they beat Toulouse. Our bad luck not to join the queue of those in the league this season who made hay whilst the SRU sun shone on Bradley.

That's what a change of coaches does for you

Well done Edinburgh, great defence and great result!

All orchestrated by a Glasgow player too... I feel betrayed Sean! Bloody Munsterman!

Fair play to the Gunners, we were out-thought, out-tackled and out-played.

Andrew Trimble must wish he had went to France. He was head and shoulders ahead of every Ulster player.
Herring was decent as was Olding.
Paul Marshall abysmal - think he will be off
Jackson had a shocker
Afoa poor

Starting to wonder what Anscombe is coaching them. He's had a great honeymoon period, but now they don't seem to know what to do and like Ireland there is no plan B or C

Congrats Embra... I had you to win by 8 though

Good grief, so angry!

What in the hell was wrong with marshall? Heaney should have been brought on 15 minutes earlier.

Williams wasn't his usual, but we didnt use him enough.

Some good individual stuff, but very disjointed. understandable considering our third choice 12 got injured in first half, and had a second row playing back row.

Paddy jackson, what was that about? Improved his kicking steadily in his games for Ireland, and then he delivers that? What happened his brain?

And finally... I seriously hope the rumours of McComish leaving are true. But he'd be as well looking for a job and settling for AIL standard on saturdays.

HE DOES NOT MAKE GROUND - EVER

I only saw the last 5 mins after noticing link. That is a huge result for Edinburgh and exactly what they needed. Hope they can keep this up for rest of the season and finish strongly. Who scored for Edinburgh and Ulster?

McInally and Trimble

Missing Henry badly... And Payne was rusty in the 1st half.

PJ, I don't know what happened! Good hands but Small P was chucking some awful passes

toml wrote:Andrew Trimble must wish he had went to France. He was head and shoulders ahead of every Ulster player.
Herring was decent as was Olding.
Paul Marshall abysmal - think he will be off
Jackson had a shocker
Afoa poor

Starting to wonder what Anscombe is coaching them. He's had a great honeymoon period, but now they don't seem to know what to do and like Ireland there is no plan B or C

Thats a ridiculous over reaction. Think we look quite well coached! Most of what went wrong were errors at the wrong time, penalties given away, missed kicks at goal- was a game we could have easily won. We just had to be patient and grind them down and thats what we did- earnt three kickable penalties and missed them. Game probably turned on that. Thought we actually improved massively tonight given how bad we were in the Six Nations! Just happened Edinburgh were defensively sound and dealt with everything we threw at them.

It happens. Some times the other team pulls out a big performance and denies you. I was raging after the Ospreys and Treviso games because that was points thrown away by us. Tonight, Edinburgh were just really good defensively and smothered us. I was pleased we didn't panic and kept playing the right way. But exceptionally disappointed by the result.

clivemcl wrote:Good grief, so angry!

What in the hell was wrong with marshall? Heaney should have been brought on 15 minutes earlier.

Williams wasn't his usual, but we didnt use him enough.

Some good individual stuff, but very disjointed. understandable considering our third choice 12 got injured in first half, and had a second row playing back row.

Paddy jackson, what was that about? Improved his kicking steadily in his games for Ireland, and then he delivers that? What happened his brain?

And finally... I seriously hope the rumours of McComish leaving are true. But he'd be as well looking for a job and settling for AIL standard on saturdays.

HE DOES NOT MAKE GROUND - EVER

I'd agree with most of what you said, but mccomish wasn't bad other than the ball carrying - he cleared up a lot of sh!te and won a few turnovers - not great but not too bad. Pity he needed to carry so much - the rest of the forwards weren't going far bar Herring and Diack once

cheers Manky!

That was hard to watch. Well done Edinburgh.

I'm not so sure the comments about how well Paddy Jackson deals with pressure are altogether true. The criticisms of his kicking shone through tonight. Kick after kick he just seemed to lose confidence. I really do hope he can build upon these experiences and really work on his kicking game but he has taken a lot of slack recently, I think it may affect his game.

Notch wrote:

toml wrote:Andrew Trimble must wish he had went to France. He was head and shoulders ahead of every Ulster player.
Herring was decent as was Olding.
Paul Marshall abysmal - think he will be off
Jackson had a shocker
Afoa poor

Starting to wonder what Anscombe is coaching them. He's had a great honeymoon period, but now they don't seem to know what to do and like Ireland there is no plan B or C

Thats a ridiculous over reaction. Think we look quite well coached! We just had to be patient and grind them down and thats what we did- earnt three kickable penalties and missed them. Game probably turned on that. Thought we actually improved massively tonight given how bad we were in the Six Nations! Just happened Edinburgh were defensively sound and dealt with everything we threw at them.

It happens. Some times the other team pulls out a big performance and denies you. I was raging after the Ospreys and Treviso games because that was points thrown away by us. Tonight, Edinburgh were just really good defensively and smothered us. I was pleased we didn't panic and kept playing the right way. But exceptionally disappointed by the result.

Well said Notch.

I think the biggest problem with tonight was we were missing our gamebreakers/they weren't fit e.g. Henry, Gilroy, Williams, Pienaar, Payne.

Edinburgh played to their strengths, fast D and offloads. We just couldn't match their penetration/execution!

Notch wrote:

toml wrote:Andrew Trimble must wish he had went to France. He was head and shoulders ahead of every Ulster player.
Herring was decent as was Olding.
Paul Marshall abysmal - think he will be off
Jackson had a shocker
Afoa poor

Starting to wonder what Anscombe is coaching them. He's had a great honeymoon period, but now they don't seem to know what to do and like Ireland there is no plan B or C

Thats a ridiculous over reaction. Think we look quite well coached! Most of what went wrong were errors at the wrong time, penalties given away, missed kicks at goal- was a game we could have easily won. We just had to be patient and grind them down and thats what we did- earnt three kickable penalties and missed them. Game probably turned on that. Thought we actually improved massively tonight given how bad we were in the Six Nations! Just happened Edinburgh were defensively sound and dealt with everything we threw at them.

It happens. Some times the other team pulls out a big performance and denies you. I was raging after the Ospreys and Treviso games because that was points thrown away by us. Tonight, Edinburgh were just really good defensively and smothered us. I was pleased we didn't panic and kept playing the right way. But exceptionally disappointed by the result.

That was a perfect game for using kicking as an attacking option. Blanket defence fast up and driving Ulster back. Why not try? The only time it was used was ad hoc for the try. Jackson was standing deep again, not taking the ball to the line like early in the season too.

In fairness, are we being too cautious after our dip in form? The romping Ulster from earlier in the season were playing high risk.

Our only try tonight came from a Payne grubber. The conservative call would be to either try and thread the pass, or go to ground. The kick might have lost us possession, but it worked and we scored.

We need our carefree fun loving mojo back. Too many concerned faces out there feeling the pressure.

We found it hard to break through. Earlier in the season i'd say the majority of our attack play came from offloads in the tackle. This was not the style of rugby we employed tonight.

Feicin bollix.

Well done Edinburgh.

Andrew Trimble is a legend.

SUFTUM .

I think it can't be underestimated how much we need our back row when you have the physicality of William fully fit, Henderson or Ferris and then Chris Henry playing as he had been that provide so much more than we have with Diack, Tuohy and McComish, I don't blame McComish as he was being asked to carry a lot of ball and it really is not his thing. Unfortunately Jackson had an off night with his kicking it is something he needs to work on but he will and at 21 he will get better Sexton was not perfect in his first few years but look how he has developed. Trimble is carrying good form and Cave did ok, Payne showed glimpses too unfortunately P. Marshall was very poor although I have always been of the opinion he is a better sub than starter because of his tempo and movement when defences are tired more than his passing. We miss our big impact players like L. Marshall, Bowe, Gilroy, Henderson/Ferris, henry. Rory Best etc

Michael Allen is looking like one of our better players at the minute. Limited ceiling on his potential I think but he is outperforming more vaunted names. Trimble just looks excellent. had the territory and possession to win that especially in the 2nd half but ended up losing it 8-5. Serious White line fever at times. Jackson needs talked to and he won't be taking our kicks with Ruan back. He needs to remember what he was doing in the first half of the season. I think there was enough about us when we ran direct to suggest our attacking game is getting back to where it should be but defensively we are too soft. Another warm up to go before the big one. Win at twickenham and suddenly everything is rosy again.

Congrats Edinburgh. Well deserved win. Welcome back

I thought Edinburgh's defence was fantastic. Rennie had a great 1st match back from injury - Edinburgh have really missed him. Talei also looked good with ball in hand and managed to get back often to field Ulster's kicks. In the backs, I thought Kennedy was solid at 9 too, laidlaw might have a tough job getting his jersey back!

Also, Scarlets and Ospreys got their wins to continue their threat in the battle for the top 4.

Who do Ulster fans want to win Leinster v Glasgow??

Edinburgh were a much improved side.

Well done. Their fans deserve a boost for sticking with them this season.

I was just going to add Michael Allen to the list of players who played well for Ulster tonight but I see Stand has beat me to it!

Also, might I add. I suspect that when Ulster's forwards were threatening th Edinburgh line and Edinburgh turned it over, it may have been because Williams was reaching for the base of the post and it was missed by the ref as a potential TMO call.

Then again, maybe we just lost it and the ref saw it being lost...

There was no TMO to ask Clive.