Wrestlemania 29 (will contain spoilers)

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The night WWE bottled it?

Most memorable moment of the night was Mark Henry winning a match by literally squashing somebody.

All good matches, no amazing moments.

Personal highlights:

Daniel Bryan getting the arena into 'YES' chants.
Mark Henry literally squashing Ryback.
CM Punk doing the whole Undertaker routine.
Brock Lesnar's beast moments, he looks genuinely terrifying, shouldn't speak though...
Michael Cole exclaiming after Cena hit the Rock Bottom; "That's the Rock's move!" Thank you Michael.

But the biggest question has to be what was special? Everything went almost totally as predicted, Big Show was the only heel turn of the night when there was potential for a few, The Shield had a good showing but might fade if they're not seen as an actual threat, surely once they get through the first line of defence, they should be a danger to all the matches again? Swagger-Del Rio was a match that needed a shock, but failed to deliver, Ziggler didn't win the tag titles, but didn't even tease, never mind achieve, a cash in. Rock-Cena was an okay match, but the ending flopped, the live crowd were vocally against it and the whole thing stank. WWE can't turn a blind eye to the hatred towards Cena anymore. If he doesn't want to turn heel because of his charity work, then WWE have to move him from the main event scene because he's become stale, he can't keep pretending to be face, he gets booed when he's in his home town for Christ's sake! It's embarrassing to keep up the charade any longer.

James_182 wrote:The Crowd killed alot of the show I think, they just didn't get into it at all, which is a shame.

You could hear a pin drop for HHH and Brock, that was a decent match up as well, which deserved some reaction from the audience to make it special.

All in all not a terrible PPV, but not a great one by any stretch of the imagination, I would not be surprised to see alot of fans turn off from the product after last night, as nothing special happened, it seemed happy to just go through the motions.

Maybe they wanted a flater Mania than usual, so next years 30th show can be something extra??

That's the problem with holding an event of this style in such a big stadium. I bet being there would be noisy but it doesn't get across to the TV audience more. I know it's Wrestlemania and they want these huge attendances but the reason the "smaller" PPVs have better atmosphere is because they're indoors. I started watching for the first time since 02 in the build up of Punk's contract situation and to this date that Money In The Bank has to be the loudest PPV in the last 2-3 years.

I'll watch Raw tonight but like others it'll have to be something great to get me hungry for it again.

Who thinks Cena will hold the title til at least next years mania? And can I ask when did the e forgot about me as a wrestling fan?

Felt like a over the limit ppv or something. Not good enough.

Does anyone think that CM Punk should have wrestled dressed as Paul Bearer considering he carried a dead man last night?

Where were the Chunks of Funk? I wanted Dancing!!!

Outraged!!! Still!!!

Question for everybody that watched it.

What would have made it better?

Hero wrote:Question for everybody that watched it.

What would have made it better?

Chunks of Fun Dancing!!!

Cena heel turn, Batista return, Kane and Bryan split up, Kaitlyn, Serious Jericho injury

About £8 off the asking price

VDT wrote:

Hero wrote:Question for everybody that watched it.

What would have made it better?

Chunks of Fun Dancing!!!

No

Quite surprised they didn't go with Antonio Cesaro defeating the title against a returning Christian or Evan Bourne!

Kaitlyn would have made it all better

JJJohnson wrote:Kaitlyn would have made it all better

You know it

Hero wrote:

VDT wrote:

Hero wrote:Question for everybody that watched it.

What would have made it better?

Chunks of Fun Dancing!!!

No

Booo, your no fun Hero! Ha!

AntLord wrote:

JJJohnson wrote:Kaitlyn would have made it all better

You know it

Kaitlyn vs AJ Lee in a good old fashioned bra and panties match!!!

I would have liked to have heard some interviews before matches, adds to the hype for me.

I would have liked Cena to smash Rock in the face with the WWE Belt after winning the match. I convinced myself at quarter to 4 that it was going to happen.

I wanted Ryback to win and I wanted Brock to end HHH's career. I also wanted Ziggler to cash in MITB.

As you can see, I didn't want much at all. It wasn't a bad show, all of the matches were decent, I guess I just expected a little more.

Kaitlyn would have at least justified my money.

What would of made WM better?
Less money
Kaitlyn/AJ added to the tag title match add Women's title on it aswell
MITB - It loses its appeal as a PPV
Brock Lesnar winning so HHH can work backstage
Cena/Rock not being utter dross
less p diddy
Miz/Barrett actually on the show stupid to change title on preshow
Cesaro to actually have been on the show
Dolph cashing in ( You call him a "Showstealer" and it's the biggest night of the year perfect timing no?)

AntLord wrote:Cena heel turn, Batista return, Kane and Bryan split up, Kaitlyn, Serious Jericho injury

Cena heel turn; Agree on this but how would you have done the heel turn? Expand on how you would sell it.
Batista return; How? Who would it involve? Under what type of contract? Currently one of the main griefs people have with WWE is the number of part timers involved which makes storylines not get any momentum, how would bringing back yet another assist?
Kane and Bryan split up; But then the awaited match between them would occur at Extreme Rules.
Kaitlyn; most people were happy not see a diva match
Serious Jericho injury; I presume you mean in a kayfabe sense?

MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch wrote:About £8 off the asking price

£18 was a reasonable price to me, the fact its the first price rise in how many years and compared to the States where its over double the cost.

I'd have had Dean Ambrose being pinned in the first match...

I don't think it will be remembered as one of the great Wrestlemanias, but I think it was a very good show.

My feeling is that a lot of people are disappointed because they weren't surprised by anything. In which case you're forgetting something. You are in a very small minority of fans who see it that way. The vast majority of the audience will have eaten it up, and that's what counts. That's where the money is.

The most popular movies, albums, books and TV shows are, for the most part, formulaic. Fans of One Direction don't want them to experiment; viewers of Britain's Got Talent don't want them shaking up the formula. WWE is not in the business of critical acclaim (though I think a degree of that is warranted for this show), it is in the business of making as much money as possible.

Dolph can cash in at another time when it can be the highlight of a PPV. Cena can turn heel when the timing is right and the story calls for it. That wasn't the story they were telling last night. Am I personally sick of Cena? Absolutely. But there was a story that had to be told to make the most money at this point in time. The Cena heel turn can only happen one time; the timing has to be perfect, and last night it wasn't.

Undertaker vs Punk was a great match and solidified Punk as a top, top star. It also proved he doesn't need to end the streak to be that star.

Brock vs Triple H told a decent story, it was a solid match but the audience clearly just isn't invested in Triple H as a top babyface. But then again, they never have been.

Big Show is better as a heel than a face. An Orton turn in the opening match wouldn't have been befitting of his level of stardom, but I do feel he needs to go heel again. But, like a Dolph cash-in, why not wait until it really means something?

There was a time, until very recently, when a PPV with one great match, two other main events in the three-to-four star range, and a decent undercard, would have been raved about as a classic. WWE has set the bar so high with recent Wrestlemanias that it's no longer the case. But that doesn't mean it wasn't a very good PPV in almost every way.

I'm not blind though, Cena is undoubtedly a problem. The way that crowds react to him suggests to me that a lot of hardcore fans would prefer to never see him again. The difficulty is that, until WWE finds somebody with charisma, who can tell a story in the ring, who has a connection not just with the hardcore audience but with the audience as a whole, and who proves to be a draw, it would be a stupid move. Ryback isn't that person, Punk didn't prove he could be that person during his babyface run, Orton wasn't that person. Bryan is popular, but I don't think it's the kind of popularity that translates to big business. So who is that man? Until he comes along, WWE is absolutely right to stick with the proven top star. And when he comes along, it'll be such a better time to turn Cena heel and make money hand over fist.

In the meantime, they are absolutely right to stick to a proven formula that makes money.

£18 is a reasonable price for 4 hours, for the "biggest" event in WWE. Its not like its a bucket load anyway, just a bit of cash. Hardly anything to cry about IMO.

£18 is completely unjustifiable
Just because its comparable to what they charge Americans. Then they are being fleeced too.
It should be comparable to going to the cinema.
You can go to a pretty decent gig for £18

you can probably go to watch wigan v villa on the final day for that and be guarenteed a better show

Fernando wrote:What would of made WM better?
Less money
Kaitlyn/AJ added to the tag title match add Women's title on it aswell
MITB - It loses its appeal as a PPV
Brock Lesnar winning so HHH can work backstage
Cena/Rock not being utter dross
less p diddy
Miz/Barrett actually on the show stupid to change title on preshow
Cesaro to actually have been on the show
Dolph cashing in ( You call him a "Showstealer" and it's the biggest night of the year perfect timing no?)

Less money - already discussed
Kaitlyn/AJ added to the tag title match add Women's title on it aswell - Already discussed
Brock Lesnar winning so HHH can work backstage - Yes agree on the booking there, its hardly like HHH couldnt return from a loser leaves town match at some point.
Cena/Rock not being utter dross - It could have been a lot better.
less p diddy - Agree, don't know who this attracts to watch Mania.

MITB - It loses its appeal as a PPV
Miz/Barrett actually on the show stupid to change title on preshow
Cesaro to actually have been on the show
Dolph cashing in ( You call him a "Showstealer" and it's the biggest night of the year perfect timing no?)

- answer all these points in one, where would they have fitted? No over the top entrances, hardly any filler matches, no backstage skits, only really the p Diddyman that could have been cut.

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Gregers wrote:Couldn't disagree more with the negativity, but maybe that's just me. Really enjoyed wm last night. Solid 8 or 8.5/10 for me.

Undercard was strong, cena rock was good, lesnar hunter was great and punk taker will be match of the year

I watched it, enjoyed it and marked out a few times. Maybe the way to watch it is to stop being a 'smark' and just enjoy wm for what it is?

There wasn't a bad match last night, best wm since 25

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Everybody who disagrees with me is trolling.

Was a pretty enjoyable show if you didn't invest your evening in a Cena heel turn. Not a classic WM but a good one

Olly wrote:I'd have had Dean Ambrose being pinned in the first match...

I may disagree with that point somewhat.

It was a good show, but that's the problem.

This is Wrestlemania, it should be spectacular. It's the grandest stage of them all, it shouldn't just be a solid show.

No backstage interviews, no promos, too many adverts/video packages. The forced handshake at the end with Cena looking smug as, well a very smug thing, was cringey.

Only one mania quality match (taker v punk) imo.

People will struggle to remember the highlights of this in 6 months never mind 6 years.

JJJohnson wrote:I would have liked to have heard some interviews before matches, adds to the hype for me.

I would have liked Cena to smash Rock in the face with the WWE Belt after winning the match. I convinced myself at quarter to 4 that it was going to happen.

I wanted Ryback to win and I wanted Brock to end HHH's career. I also wanted Ziggler to cash in MITB.

As you can see, I didn't want much at all. It wasn't a bad show, all of the matches were decent, I guess I just expected a little more.

Kaitlyn would have at least justified my money.

I would have liked to have heard some interviews before matches, adds to the hype for me. - WM27 was slated in part for the backstage segements making it feel like a RAW.

I wanted Ryback to win - So the one shock of the night you didn't want?

Kaitlyn would have at least justified my money - If Kaitlyn is the answer to PPV purchases then I'm missing something?

MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch wrote:£18 is completely unjustifiable
Just because its comparable to what they charge Americans. Then they are being fleeced too.
It should be comparable to going to the cinema.
You can go to a pretty decent gig for £18

I'll be watching Mania hopefully again with my kids tonight. If I took them to the cinema I'd be lucky to get change from £50.

Hero you seem to be on some sort of crusade...

Hero wrote:Question for everybody that watched it.

What would have made it better?

I would have cut the main event be at least five minutes. With the right opponent (Punk), Cena can put on a great 25 minute match, but The rock doesn't have the variety which Punk brings.

I'd have like to have seen the Tag title match go a little bit longer.

My main gripe is the way some of the matches finished. Cena's been getting loads for stick for no selling Rock's offense, but I think the same thing can be labelled at Del Rio. He was in the ankle lock for a good thirty seconds, before the rope break, but then immediately hit an enziguri, showing no damage to his ankle. The finishes to Henry/Ryback and Jericho/Fandango looked botchy as well.

I agree with almost all of what Crips says and he's worded it much more eloquently than me so I won't delve to much.

The wrestling on this show was of a high standard, and I think the lack of 'shocks' has clouded people on seeing how good it really was (not that it is my place to tell you how to feel).

The only result I had a problem with was HHH v Lesnar, only serves to make Lesnar 1-2 since his return to WWE, hardly the form of a monster, and unless WWE has big plans for HHH to wrestle in the next 6 months or so, I don't see why he couldn't have taken a little time off.

I think Cena vs Rock was better than some are giving credit for, ok it wasnt a classic by any means, but it was a huge occasion and there were a couple of nice spots chipped in there.

A Few Random Thoughts (sue me Y2D2)

1) People wondered how HHH was going to top the pants Wee weeing incident at mania, well he clearly shot his wad last night

2) Did anyone else not find it ridicuolous that Lesnar, a former UFC World Champion, got caught in his own submission hold, not once, but 3 times in sucession!!! I had my head in my hands laughing at the 3rd one

3) I will have to go back and watch it again in case there was something I missed, but surely to god Taker was counted out at the start of his match? The Streak is over, all hail CM Punk!!

4) Fandango pin Jericho

I'm just playing devil's advocate on it, everyone is quick to pour scorn but I'd like to see how it would have been better.

Hero wrote:I'm just playing devil's advocate on it, everyone is quick to pour scorn but I'd like to see how it would have been better.

I know, I know!

As I said earlier it was a 7/10 in my book. It was decent, but nothing special. Taker-Punk was the only real match that made me go woah that was quality

On Lesnar, he's wrestled 3 times, almost killed Cena and HHH twice, and it took a chain to the face, AA on the steps, then 3 kimura locks, DDT on the steps, sledgehammer to the face and a pedigree on the steps to finish him.

GSC wrote:On Lesnar, he's wrestled 3 times, almost killed Cena and HHH twice, and it took a chain to the face, AA on the steps, then 3 kimura locks, DDT on the steps, sledgehammer to the face and a pedigree on the steps to finish him.

Im not saying he's not been made to look like a beast in defeat, but he's the more valuable commodity than HHH (and as future head of the WWE, HHH has got to realise that), so unless WWE thinks they can get more mileage on the HHH front, I don't see what harm it would have done to take HHH out for a while and give Brock the win

Lesnar looked particularly strong in defeat. Think he's fine. HHH is still a strong draw at WM for WWE and Lesnar is still considered a beast

I think it was a big let down to be honest the only matches i was impressed with were Punk - Taker (after punk hit taker with the urn i genuinly thought punk would take the streak), Team Hell No vs ziggler and langston, particulary daniel bryan he was amazing. Rock Cena was appalling, although compared to last years match it was much better. They did a good job in making Brock look strong but i wouldnt rate the match as highly as some, n did anybody see Lesnar mess up on that pedigree before HHH hit it again.

I think they had a perfect moment to turn cean heel after the match, especially with the boos he was getting, after the hand shake he could have hit the AA on the rock. Glad ziggler didnt cash in though tbh.

overall though for a wrestlemania it was pretty pathetic.

I was gutted Lesnar lost simply because he's signed on for a couple of years so I thought he needed to look even stronger going into next year having retired the game. Ok, it took a hell of allot to beat him and he destroyed triple H (The superplex through the table being my favorite, so much power just to throw him like he did), but to be locked into his own submission by a wrestler who's never used it before in his life I didn't like. Should have left that out, pretty unrealistic if you ask me.

Match results always change peoples perception of an event, the exact same show with a Rock win, Lesnar win and maybe a Swagger win would have had people hailing this as a great show IMO

I recorded it and watched it today, it wasn't enticing enough to make me want to stay up, anyway, I remember thinking before the Undertaker/Punk match that the show had been pretty decent so far even if I'd been left slightly underwhelmed, I thought the Punk match was alright, didn't think it was a classic or comparable to his matches with Shawn's two, or Hunters at WM27 or his matches with Edge, Batista or Orton at 24,23 & 21 but it was decent, I felt Punk carried Taker far more than I ever imagined he was going to have to, the Undertaker is severely done now for me.

I thought HHH/Lesnar was the MOTN, I really enjoyed it and it was the one 'big' match I knew would be exciting in the fact that I didn't have a clue who would win it, the match went well, much better than their SummerSlam match in my opinion

The Main Event was strange, I liked Cena as the match went on, I feel the result went the way it should have went, the best of this generation had to come out on top and do it the right way, I'd love a heel turn, the business I believe needs it too, he's not even getting ordinary heat now, its derision he's given, Vince is milking every last bit of juice out of the Cena machine but its surely time now to turn him, plans must be in place, what I didn't get was Cena's heel manerisms throughout the match, if the IWC are the ones who want him to turn and are in the minority then having Cena play up to them totally goes against what he stands for to the fans who love him...I personally liked it though, I just didn't understand it.

I think all the talent did as well as they could have, the WWE can't ask for much more, it was just a nice safe PPV

Ohh, Ryback, that felt strange, I guess they're going to go down the Ryback can't win PPV matches route, I don't feel the win did Mark Henry any good considering they allowed Ryback to kill him after the match

It was a very average PPV and the fact that people on here are trying to make out otherwise shows how far standards have fallen and how people just seem to accept mediocrity.

The whole show was wrong pretty much from the start. The Shield - I like them but what does this match do for them? They won because Show was narked off with Orton, nothing to do with their 'amazing' team ethic. I also don't like how there is no build up pre match and how there was no stare down at the start of the match, they were just fighting straight away. Pretty much there was no story in the ring, just 6 men thrown together to fight for no reason. Show turning heel AGAIN was a big let down, as if we all didn't see that coming. Orton has been crying out for one for ages yet they give one to somebody nobody even cares about. At least the Shield won but I really don't see what is up next for them now, they don't seem to have a direction anymore.

Fandango vs Jericho - Well I liked Fandango's entrance, that was about it. I understand Jericho is known for putting people over but last night was just embarrassing, when is the last time he has even won a match? Also the ending looked totally botched and I don't think any of the fans give a monkey's about Fandango.

Henry vs Ryback - zzzzzzzzzzzzz. Nearly fell asleep watching Ryback, he is like a bloody robot, what is the actual point of him? What was the point of Henry winning only to get destroyed 30 seconds later? Couldn't they have just given Ryback is 'wrestlemania moment'. Not that I wanted him to have one but it just seems far more logical than the ending that we all saw.

Team Hell No vs Ziggler/Big E - No complaints here, it was a great match and I was happy that Team Hell No won. The crowd was well up for it, too, Bryan had them in the palm of his hand. To anybody on here that uses the open roof as a pathetic excuse for a lack of atmosphere in the main events then why could you barely hear yourself think for this match? It's quite simple really, because Bryan entertains whereas the main events didn't.

Del Rio vs Swagger - Had no interest in the match really. Swagger was given a jobber entrance and automatically everybody knew the outcome of the match. Nobody cared about it and the crowd were chanting for Ziggler to cash in, obviously as this is what people wanted to see, Vince was never going to allow it.

Punk vs Taker - Sad to see Punk lose because I am a big fan but the match itself was great and it was class when he kicked out of the Tombstone. Was kind of hoping Punk would land a tombstone on Taker himself, did a Piledriver on Cena recently so why not? Also a shame the table didn't break outside the ring. As for Taker, not his biggest fan but he can still perform at least once a year and would be happy to see him and next year's mania.

HHH vs Lesnar - To me it was a borefest, and predictable that HHH would win. The only thing that hooked me was when HBK superkicked Heyman, I really thought Lesnar was going to tap which I did NOT want to see, thankfully he didn't. I don't see where Lesnar goes from here, he has been here for a year now and has done nothing, HHH likewise has done nothing for well over a year but gets to keep his career when he barely shows up anyway? He has never been over as a top face since he shoved Vince's face in Show's behind. Unsurprising the crowd was dead.

Rock vs Cena - Fell asleep and was not bothered to watch the full match as I was told Cena won. I however watched the last 5 minutes of what was constant kick out after kick out from finishing moves. And not even last ditch, you had Cena kick out of a Rock bottom before the ref had even made a 2 count, this clown is a cancer to the industry and completely winds me up. If a clean win was not a big enough insult to injury, what took place after was visibly disgusting and made me feel sick physically. Rock shaking his hand and hugging him? Seriously? They have been saying for 3 years that they do not respect or like each other so why the hug and handshake? And those complete tools on commentary Cole and King commenting on Cena's "class" for doing it. Oh yea, easy for Cena to be "class" and smug when he has won but last year he couldn't get out of the ring quick enough, there was no "class" from him there, no handshakes, nothing, but because Cena wins now it is finished, Cena ALWAYS comes out on top. TYPICAL. The way he then waited at the top of the ramp for Rock to follow him up like a sick puppy and lift his arm in victory was a travesty. The look on Rock's face made it look as if he was forced to do it by Vince. A complete disgrace and I hope for his sake he does not have a single interaction with Cena in WWE again because the fact he is being made to look weak by a talentless make believe comic book hero is horrific and is a spit in the face of the Attitude Era and all the other legends that were a part of it.

People saying that this was the 'safe' option and that we are only disappointed there were no shocks are wrong. How do you explain the paying customers chanting 'boring' in the main even of Mania. When has that EVER happened? When has Mania ended with a chorus of boos for a new champion? My memory is not great but I genuinely can't think of an ending where the live audience were so disgusted? I thought the crowd are meant to be sent home happy, not ripped off?

A few more negatives, there were way too many adverts and promos for Rock vs Cena throughout the night. There was no 'filler' between the main events. No divas match, or funkadactyles or even a cringey Vicky/Hornswoggle skit to give people a chance to get ready for the next match, it just seemed all a bit forced and rushed (a bit like the build up to the event itself). P Diddy was embarrassing and I don't know why he was even there in the first place. Why did the Intercontinental match happen on the pre-show and not the actual show itself? I am not a fan of Cesaro but where was he? Surely the United States Champion should have a match? There were no backstage interactions at all, no stare offs between old or potentially future rivals. Nobody had a go on the mic except for that racist who follows Swagger around. No shock returns for anybody, like Batista for example.

To those of you who are asking 'what was wrong' or 'what could be done better' how about you divulge yourself into all of the above and stop conforming with the rest of Vince's 'WWE Universe' garbage.

Punk and taker might have been quality but did I at any point believe punk would win?? NO. simply that is the problem. Suspending your belief it didn't do. Maybe if punk was still the champ then I would believe.

Strange how the main-events went back to back. People on here complaining about the crowd,what did you expect? The crowd was hot for punk/taker but they were burnt out after that. HHH/BROCK nobody truly cared about,the same dead crowd at summerslam. Rocky passing the torch to a guy who's been the top guy for the past eleven years is a complete joke. I'd rather see Rock win then have Cena slowly lose it til mania 30.

What top heel will Cena feud with now???? He's done it all. We going to see show again? Maybe boreton again? Is Sheamus going to turn heel and feud with him again? Maybe Henry might decide its finally time to challenge for the title??

The only guy it could be is Ryback but the thought of them two in a programme worries me. Not much wrestling in that feud.

Somebody mentioned that Cena will never turn heel unless they find the next Cena. Well how they supposed to do that when all the main-eventers are part-timers or the past??

Have a look at Ziggler,potential. Gets loses majority of the time yet supposed to be a show off,a whc in waiting yet never mentions it.

Wrestlemania is the fued ender, it's the big stage to settle the score, it's not the PPV to pull a swerve out of the left field without any real logic just to please a minority of fans. Just because the outcomes were predictable doesn't mean they were the wrong outcomes.

Cena v Rock was what I expected but the constant kick outs of the Rock Bottom and AA got a bit silly. Why not try something different like Punk v Cena did on Raw with the piledriver and powerbomb? The embrace at the end hopefully signals the end of the fued between these two.

Lesnar v HHH wasn't as good as I thought it'd be but I think the crowd had a hand in that. They were dead. Wins and losses don't matter for Lesnar though, the guy is box office and will always be a draw and look strong.

Punk v Taker was MOTN. Punk losing to Taker done more for his stock than it did when he beat Jericho last year. Hopefully he'll have a break and come back better than ever.

The only gripe I have which I can't get out of my head is that I'm constantly comparing everything to the End of an Era match. The storytelling and emotion shown by HHH, HBK and Taker was of the very highest standard and is unlikely to be replicated. As good as Punk v Taker and HHH v Lesnar was, they weren't even close the the End of an Era match and for me I'll always be disappointed because I know those high standards are unlikely to ever be seen again. It just goes to prove how important a good story is in a match.

Overall 6/10 in my book.

People complaining at being labelled smarks, people who enjoyed WM are being called trolls or willing to settle for mediocrity more often.

Yeah it wasn't a classic WM but there wasn't a weak spot on the card.

who will be the first poster to write their own 'im taking a break' thread

What the hell is a smark?

JamesLincs wrote:who will be the first poster to write their own 'im taking a break' thread

The same one that writes the Raw review tomorrow

HitmanOwl, well said, nail hit on head.

The Shield - I like them but what does this match do for them? They won because Show was narked off with Orton, nothing to do with their 'amazing' team ethic.

That's just wrong, the match was over before Show turned, the whole story of the match was that one Team can be threat great indIviduals, I felt it worked perfectly although I felt the whole thing with Show at the end was unnecessary

Also the ending looked totally botched and I don't think any of the fans give a monkey's about Fandango.

You can blame Jericho for the botch, he went for his Lionsault when Fandango was to close to the ropes, he was never going to land on his knees which was probably the planned finish so they improvised, JBL is the only one who came out of it looking well, he saw what Jericho was trying to do so sold it to us

CenaNuff wrote:HitmanOwl, well said, nail hit on head.

Things you never thought you would hear in your lifetime

But for what its worth, I agree too!