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Post by Pedro147 Sun 19 May 2013, 12:29 pm

Amir Khan has said he would love to fight Lucas Matthysse after watching the Argentinian floor Lamont Peterson in Atlantic City.

Khan, like former conqueror Danny Garcia ringside for the fight at the Boardwalk Hall, is confident he could beat Matthysse in a clash in which many would predict only one possible outcome.

The Briton could be next in line to fight the winner of a Matthysse vs Garcia match-up pencilled in for September 7, and would be a willing challenger.

"I'd love to (fight Matthysse)," he told Sky Sports. "When (Marcos) Maidana was knocking everyone out I went in there and beat him. My style will suit Matthysse and I'd definitely go in with him.

"People talk about a glass chin, but Peterson got dropped by me, knocked out by Matthysse - does that mean he has a glass chin?

"The 140 division is the most exciting division and it's made me want to stay in it. I've said I'm going to move up to 147 but I've not made that move yet. I want to mix it with these guys."

Peterson remains the IBF light-welterweight champion because his belt was not on line but Khan predicts a long road back for the man who beat him in 2011 in a highly contentious points decision.

"I don't know how he got up from that shot, he showed a lot of guts," he added. "The referee should have stopped it.

"It's hard to see Peterson come back from a devastating knockout like that. You could see he was hurt badly."


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Post by Pedro147 Sun 19 May 2013, 12:31 pm

"It's hard to see Peterson come back from a devastating knockout like that."

Pot kettle perhaps....

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Post by azania Sun 19 May 2013, 12:40 pm

Khan is correct. Peterson is a cheat who git slapped. Who will book him?

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Post by All Time Great Sun 19 May 2013, 1:10 pm

Has everyone forgotten Khan beat Maidana? Other than round 10/11 Khan was pretty much in control.

Matthyse I see as a better version of Maidana, but in all honesty it's a very similar style.

If I was a betting man, Khan's beat him as Matthyse probably doesn't have the agility and speed to cope with Khan's combinations.

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Post by azania Sun 19 May 2013, 1:13 pm

If you take a shower you get wet. Against Matthysse you will get hit..and hard. Khan took Maidana's best so proved himself as not being as china chinned like say Price, but he always gets hit. Lucas is a better boxer than Maidana. When he has Khan hurt, I reckon he'll finish.

But perhaps fighting scared will do Khan a lot of good and make the fight competitive.

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Post by sittingringside Sun 19 May 2013, 1:27 pm

Matthysse has to be a big favourite now, but Khan could definitely win. Hope this happens.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 19 May 2013, 1:34 pm

Haha, people still think Khan can beat Lucas

I've been saying this for ages now, Khan's chin can't take a Matthysse shot and he isn't good enough not to get caught

Matthysse is a lot better than Maidana. They probably punch as hard as each other, if anything Matthysse is the bigger puncher, and are of similar speed but Matthysse is better in every department. He closes the ring off better, times his shots better thus enabling him to land his heavy shots and has a much tighter defence

Khan hasn't the power to keep him at range or the defence to not to get hit hard and not the chin to take those shots

Hunter won't put Khan anywhere near Matthysse especially after the Diaz fight

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Post by BallchinianMuffwig Sun 19 May 2013, 1:35 pm

Hopefully Matthysee brings Garcia back down to earth first though.

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Post by sittingringside Sun 19 May 2013, 1:45 pm

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:Haha, people still think Khan can beat Lucas

I've been saying this for ages now, Khan's chin can't take a Matthysse shot and he isn't good enough not to get caught

Matthysse is a lot better than Maidana. They probably punch as hard as each other, if anything Matthysse is the bigger puncher, and are of similar speed but Matthysse is better in every department. He closes the ring off better, times his shots better thus enabling him to land his heavy shots and has a much tighter defence

Khan hasn't the power to keep him at range or the defence to not to get hit hard and not the chin to take those shots

Hunter won't put Khan anywhere near Matthysse especially after the Diaz fight

I think Matthysse will win if they fight, but I think you are slightly underestimating Khan's offensive arsenal. He is offensively gifted, not someone you want to take liberties with.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 19 May 2013, 1:53 pm

sittingringside wrote:
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:Haha, people still think Khan can beat Lucas

I've been saying this for ages now, Khan's chin can't take a Matthysse shot and he isn't good enough not to get caught

Matthysse is a lot better than Maidana. They probably punch as hard as each other, if anything Matthysse is the bigger puncher, and are of similar speed but Matthysse is better in every department. He closes the ring off better, times his shots better thus enabling him to land his heavy shots and has a much tighter defence

Khan hasn't the power to keep him at range or the defence to not to get hit hard and not the chin to take those shots

Hunter won't put Khan anywhere near Matthysse especially after the Diaz fight

I think Matthysse will win if they fight, but I think you are slightly underestimating Khan's offensive arsenal. He is offensively gifted, not someone you want to take liberties with.

You think Khan can stop lucas. Has khan ever properly knocked out someone (barring Judah by a body shot). If he isn't going to stop Lucas, then he has to outbox him and he isn't good enough not to get knocked out

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun 19 May 2013, 1:56 pm

Khan's offense is over hyped. He punches like a girl but he does have great hand speed.............and thats it.

Should he fight Matthysse he will win a couple of rounds and get koed. Khan however will try to duck Matthysse at all costs. You see Khan has a trick that he plays which is calling out fighters but not actually fighting them. He called out Juan Urango and said he would ko him....never happened. Khan wants Mayweather thats obvious but don;t be fooled by Khan wanting Matthysse because his team wont allow it.

And stop bringing up Maidana please because after ducking the guy for so long Khan was forced into fighting him and was battered from post to post.

Khan is one of the worst fighters to ever be produced in UK.

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Post by ShahenshahG Sun 19 May 2013, 1:58 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Khan's offense is over hyped. He punches like a girl but he does have great hand speed.............and thats it.

Should he fight Matthysse he will win a couple of rounds and get koed. Khan however will try to duck Matthysse at all costs. You see Khan has a trick that he plays which is calling out fighters but not actually fighting them. He called out Juan Urango and said he would ko him....never happened. Khan wants Mayweather thats obvious but don;t be fooled by Khan wanting Matthysse because his team wont allow it.

And stop bringing up Maidana please because after ducking the guy for so long Khan was forced into fighting him and was battered from post to post.

Khan is one of the worst fighters to ever be produced in UK.

Kinda removed any doubts with where you stand in regards to khan with that last line onetwo. Not that there was any doubt.

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Post by Rowley Sun 19 May 2013, 2:04 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:

Khan is one of the worst fighters to ever be produced in UK.

Nice to see our ability to avoid hyperbole and going over the top is intact.

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Post by sittingringside Sun 19 May 2013, 2:04 pm

I'm pretty sure I didn't say that Khan would stop Matthysse, although he is not a particularly light puncher as some would suggest. However, he has caused problems for every opponent he has face with his handspeed, and Matthysse can be a little slow with his own hands. I think Matthysse would win because Khan lacks concentration and defensive aptitude, and Matthysse has a very composed style for such a hard puncher. I could see Matthysse taking the chances/half chances he needs to win. He would have to be on good form though, if he blows cold like he sometimes does then I think he could potentially struggle. On last nights form I'd back him to win.

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Post by sittingringside Sun 19 May 2013, 2:05 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Khan's offense is over hyped. He punches like a girl but he does have great hand speed.............and thats it.

Should he fight Matthysse he will win a couple of rounds and get koed. Khan however will try to duck Matthysse at all costs. You see Khan has a trick that he plays which is calling out fighters but not actually fighting them. He called out Juan Urango and said he would ko him....never happened. Khan wants Mayweather thats obvious but don;t be fooled by Khan wanting Matthysse because his team wont allow it.

And stop bringing up Maidana please because after ducking the guy for so long Khan was forced into fighting him and was battered from post to post.

Khan is one of the worst fighters to ever be produced in UK.

Yeah, he was battered to a unanimous decision win.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun 19 May 2013, 2:15 pm

Correct he was battered to a dodgy unanimous win but the better man lost.

It amazes me how you Khsn fanatics can openly praise him as being the greatest boxer ever, better then Ali SRR SRL and co and ignore his obvious boxing flaws.

People like az who have stated that Khan would easily beat SRL??????

I mean where do you get the nerve to write such TOSH.

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Post by Rowley Sun 19 May 2013, 2:18 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
It amazes me how you Khsn fanatics can openly praise him as being the greatest boxer ever, better then Ali SRR SRL and co and ignore his obvious boxing flaws.


Has anyone really ever said that? And even if they have is it really any less ridiculous than claiming Khan is one of the worst boxers ever from the UK?

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun 19 May 2013, 2:19 pm

jeff I sent you a MP hope you can help me out with something.

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Post by sittingringside Sun 19 May 2013, 2:23 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Correct he was battered to a dodgy unanimous win but the better man lost.

It amazes me how you Khsn fanatics can openly praise him as being the greatest boxer ever, better then Ali SRR SRL and co and ignore his obvious boxing flaws.

People like az who have stated that Khan would easily beat SRL??????

I mean where do you get the nerve to write such TOSH.

You scored the fight for Maidana? I don't think there was anything particularly dodgy about it.

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Post by Guest Sun 19 May 2013, 2:27 pm

Stop making up Poopie.

No one said any of the things you claimed. You're one dumbass and a blatant hater - no two ways about it.

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Post by davidemore Sun 19 May 2013, 2:27 pm

Amir's career ends the moment he steps in the ring with Lucas. And badly.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sun 19 May 2013, 2:31 pm

emancipator wrote:Stop making up Poopie.

No one said any of the things you claimed. You're one dumbass and a blatant hater - no two ways about it.

Do you want me to get proof?????

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Post by Diamond in the rough Sun 19 May 2013, 3:42 pm

Mattysse had to good a chin for khan to stop so would only be a matter of time! Amazing fight for how ever long it lasts tho

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Post by spencerclarke Sun 19 May 2013, 8:03 pm

Khan's been good for fight fans even if you dont like him but I do feel that his time at elite level is coming to an end. You can only take punishment for so long. Still some exciting fights whilst hes about.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 19 May 2013, 10:38 pm

Still thin Khan has a very good chance against Matthysse, call me crazy but...

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Post by Sam_London Sun 19 May 2013, 11:03 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:Still thin Khan has a very good chance against Matthysse, call me crazy but...

I agree. Amir doesn't have too many problems with shorter fighters, and at 5'6", Matthysse is quite a bit smaller than Amir. If Amir fights sensibly, similar to how he fought Kotelnik, then he has a very good chance.

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Post by manos de piedra Sun 19 May 2013, 11:20 pm

I think Matthysse is all wrong for Khan. It will probably take a cute, technical and defensively strong fighter to beat Matthysse at the moment. A fighter that has a good chin, that can counter well and pick his shots.

Khan doesnt really fit that profile. He not a smart fighter, hes defensively vulnerable and isnt the most durable. Matthysse would get to him and take him out in my view.

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Post by RanjitPatel Sun 19 May 2013, 11:20 pm

If the fight came off I'd want Khan to win but I cant give him any chance.
Mattysse just hits too hard. At this moment in time it would be crazy matchmaking for anyone who had Khans' best interests at heart. Even worse than when he was put in with Prescott after being dropped by Gomez the fight before.
Mattysse 1st round ko and i bet the odds would be very low on that.

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Post by azania Sun 19 May 2013, 11:23 pm

Khan's problem\is not his chin but his inate sense to want to fight as oppose to boxing. Plus he has not developed as well as I thought he could have. His jab, whilst good on some occassions is only occassionally good. That is the basic fundermental for anyone who has a dodgy chin.

But he is bloody entertaining. Only that Irish fool managed to stink out a Khan fight. For that he should retire. I can't believe one numpty here said Khan was ducking a rematch with him.

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Post by azania Sun 19 May 2013, 11:24 pm

RanjitPatel wrote:If the fight came off I'd want Khan to win but I cant give him any chance.
Mattysse just hits too hard. At this moment in time it would be crazy matchmaking for anyone who had Khans' best interests at heart. Even worse than when he was put in with Prescott after being dropped by Gomez the fight before.
Mattysse 1st round ko and i bet the odds would be very low on that.

It's not a question of LM hitting too hard. He seems a very accurate puncher. The bonus is that he seems to hit damn hard. Big problem for Khan.

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Post by Sam_London Sun 19 May 2013, 11:26 pm

manos de piedra wrote:I think Matthysse is all wrong for Khan. It will probably take a cute, technical and defensively strong fighter to beat Matthysse at the moment. A fighter that has a good chin, that can counter well and pick his shots.

Khan doesnt really fit that profile. He not a smart fighter, hes defensively vulnerable and isnt the most durable. Matthysse would get to him and take him out in my view.

Agree about Amir's durability and he would have to stay focused for every second of every minute of every round but, and it's a big but, if Amir can stay focused and avoid getting caught up in a war he could win.


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Post by manos de piedra Sun 19 May 2013, 11:40 pm

I was very impressed with Matthysse power. I knew he was a puncher, but I did think Peterson would be able to stand up to his shots alot better and box Matthysse enough to make it a decision fight, or at least perhaps only get overwhelmed or worn down in the championship rounds. I really didnt expect Matthysse to basically blast him out like he did.

Khan hasnt ever really shown an aptitude for fighting guys that walk him down and pressure him. He suits fighting boxers better. I dont see him having the ability to move well enough to avoid Matthysse for 12 rounds, the left hook Matthysse took Peterson out with would be lethal against Khan. I think hes just an awful fighter for someone of Khans set up as a fighter.

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Post by RanjitPatel Sun 19 May 2013, 11:44 pm

If Khan's arms grew by about another foot then I'd give him a chance of winning by boxing behind the jab.

I would have said after the Judah fight that Khan was capable of beating the Mattysse of now but the Garcia defeat seems to have harmed him more than it could have. The 2nd fight with Peterson not coming off also played a part.

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Post by Sam_London Sun 19 May 2013, 11:51 pm

RanjitPatel wrote:If Khan's arms grew by about another foot then I'd give him a chance of winning by boxing behind the jab.

I would have said after the Judah fight that Khan was capable of beating the Mattysse of now but the Garcia defeat seems to have harmed him more than it could have. The 2nd fight with Peterson not coming off also played a part.

I think we'll find out more in his next fight.

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Post by hogey Mon 20 May 2013, 12:11 am

Khan will be destroyed if he goes anywhere near Mattysse, his powder puff arm punches wont discourage a beast like him, Too be honest though Khan should not be even mentioned as an opponent for the top men like Mattysse or Garcia till he has done something to earn the shot because the last 2 decent fighters he went in with beat him, surely beating up a little bloke like Molina and an over the hill Diaz should not be enough to get a shot. Its not as if he is even a big draw in the States no matter what bilge GBP spout, because they have had to give away most of the tickets for his fights over there.

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Post by manos de piedra Mon 20 May 2013, 12:27 am

To be honest, I cant see why Khan wouldnt be a legitimate opponent for Garcia or Matthysse. It becomes a catch 22. If he looks for a fight with Mayweather then some will argue he should beat a Garcia or Matthyyse first. If he looks for a fight with them, then its argued he hasnt earned it. Its relatively standard practice for a top ranked challenger whos suffered defeat to get back into contention by winning a couple of lower risk fights and Khan has done that.

Matthysse v Garcia is the most natural fight in the division now and looks likely to happen. But outside of that then Khan wouldnt be too far down the list of rated challengers in my view.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 20 May 2013, 9:47 am

azania wrote:If you take a shower you get wet. Against Matthysse you will get hit..and hard. Khan took Maidana's best so proved himself as not being as china chinned like say Price, but he always gets hit. Lucas is a better boxer than Maidana. When he has Khan hurt, I reckon he'll finish.

But perhaps fighting scared will do Khan a lot of good and make the fight competitive.

Pahahaha there truly is no thread you can't shoe-horn David Price's chin into. Pathetic. #issues

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Post by azania Mon 20 May 2013, 10:19 am

Are you stalking me?

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 20 May 2013, 10:22 am

No, just laughing at you.

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Post by azania Mon 20 May 2013, 10:30 am

Fair enough OK

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Post by Rodney Mon 20 May 2013, 11:06 am

Ill maintain this Khans chin isn't that bad, it isn't granite but it's not horrendous like many claim it to be. The problem with Khan is not his chin it's his punching power for me, if you can't discourage pressure fighters and bangers then you better be prepared for war or run, I was more alarmed of how someone like Peterson could march straight up to up him, you've got to say he'd have to have a helluva game plan to beat Matthyse.

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Post by azania Mon 20 May 2013, 11:50 am

To me it's how he reacts when hit. He panics and goes to war.

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Post by sittingringside Mon 20 May 2013, 2:05 pm

Rodney wrote:Ill maintain this Khans chin isn't that bad, it isn't granite but it's not horrendous like many claim it to be. The problem with Khan is not his chin it's his punching power for me, if you can't discourage pressure fighters and bangers then you better be prepared for war or run, I was more alarmed of how someone like Peterson could march straight up to up him, you've got to say he'd have to have a helluva game plan to beat Matthyse.

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I don't think the punching power is the main issue. I think it all comes back to his discipline and composure. He hurt and dropped Peterson early on, if he's sat down on his punches more he could have deterred Peterson's attacks more effectively. Instead he was caught in two minds and ended up doing a lot of retreating, taking the force out of his punches and letting Peterson get up in his face.

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