The Gloves - The Boxing Board Pub Thread

[Adam D]

First topic message reminder :

I, as well as countless other people have had enough of threads descending into utter drivel.

If you want to go wildly off topic and discuss things, then please do so in here.

Today alone has seen threads descend into conversations about Blazing Saddles, hot women, the Royal family, how to cook duck and now darts.

Is this really how we are going to attract new members?

If you want to talk about these or other similarly non boxing related matters, do so here and not on threads people have taken the time to write.

The Gloves is now open for business, now who is buying the first round?

[HumanWindmill]

I really dont know what happened to my last post. Thats happened twice now. And whoever stated that Povetkin fella was good needs to wobble his head.

Certainly nothing I did, d2. Cyber gremlins, I reckon.

[Scottrf]

Poketkin is good.

[d260005p]

Poketkin is good.

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[Imperial Ghosty]

Ever watched him fight?

[J.Benson II]

True, but it be wierdly fun to watch because i think both of those heavyweights are a complete joke

Yes, it is a very stupid topic which I presume was written by a very stupid person.

Ruslan Chagaev was one of the finest amatuer boxers in the world and is one of only two men who hold a winning record against the legendary Olympian Felix Savon.
As a pro, his only defeat came against the No.1 HW on the planet.

Alexander Povetkin also shares a decorated amateur background, beating every opponent he faced and defeating the highly rated Roberto Cammarelle to win Olympic gold in 2004.

Not bad for complete jokes, eh?

Given the way far inferior boxers have been over-rated by the media and press, if either man was British, there would be a huge amount of respect and hype surrounding both.

[d260005p]

Yeh saw his amazing clash with Eddie Chambers. What a barnstormer that was. Joke.

[Steffan]

Yes, it is a very stupid topic which I presume was written by a very stupid person.

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[d260005p]

Who cares about the amateur pedigrees? That dont cut the mustard at the pro game. Simple as. Who have they faced in the pro rank? Chagaev was dominated by Klitshcko worse then Haye was and Haye wasnt an AMAZING AMATUER was he.

[d260005p]

Yes, it is a very stupid topic which I presume was written by a very stupid person.

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Tell me about it! haha! I thought i was having a bad day! As if im going believe that Pacman would fight at Heavyweight, it was just a thought id share.

[Imperial Ghosty]

It's a pretty pointless subject as the answer is so clear and the fact is Povetkin and Chagaev are the best fighters in the heavyweight division aside from the K bros, they're not brilliant but neither are they completely useless.

Your also right that world silver medallist David Haye was nothing as an amateur

[Steffan]

Reminds me of DAVE667 on one of his "DAMN YOU. STOP WRITING THESE ARTICLES YOU IMBECILE" rants

or Trussman on one of his "WHY DONT YOU IGNORANT BRITS JUST LISTEN TO ME FOR ONE FLIPPING SECOND" yank rages

[d260005p]

It's a pretty pointless subject as the answer is so clear and the fact is Povetkin and Chagaev are the best fighters in the heavyweight division aside from the K bros, they're not brilliant but neither are they completely useless.

Your also right that world silver medallist David Haye was nothing as an amateur

David Haye would batter both.

[HumanWindmill]

Given that d2 has pretty much said that this was designed to be light hearted, and given the direction in which it is heading, I'll give this five minutes and then merge it into the pub thread.

[d260005p]

Given that d2 has pretty much said that this was designed to be light hearted, and given the direction in which it is heading, I'll give this five minutes and then merge it into the pub thread.

I know, everybody has got heated on a random thought i had whilst sat at my desk! Unreal. Ill see you all in the pub though so we can discuss further.

[Imperial Ghosty]

Windy just seems like an utterly pointless debate to clutter up further any already very cluttered front page

Haye may beat them but doubt we'll see him in the ring with either

[J.Benson II]

Who cares about the amateur pedigrees? That dont cut the mustard at the pro game. Simple as. Who have they faced in the pro rank? Chagaev was dominated by Klitshcko worse then Haye was and Haye wasnt an AMAZING AMATUER was he.

David Haye was an excellent amateur.

Amateur boxing is where skill and technique is learnt and developed. Which is why almost all the greatest boxers in history have had a rich and succesful amateur background.

Yes, Chagaev was dominated by Klitschko, just like almost all of Wlad's 50+ victims.

[The Galveston Giant]

Amy Winehouse is dead.

[The Galveston Giant]

David Haye was a very good amatuer.

[Steffan]

David Haye was a very good amatuer.

I drank a shedfull of last night

[eddyfightfan]

i have to say i think povetkin is a great boxer, and will probably rule the roost once the k bros have disappeared. stick him in with fury or chisora and tell me they are both jokes. povetkin has one of the best workrates of all the heavyweights, and correct me if im wrong but has never even touched the canvas as a pro. ask chambers, byrd and firtha what they though of him.

[6oldenbhoy]

Who cares about the amateur pedigrees? That dont cut the mustard at the pro game. Simple as. Who have they faced in the pro rank? Chagaev was dominated by Klitshcko worse then Haye was and Haye wasnt an AMAZING AMATUER was he.

Haye was a World Amateur silver medalist, but you're right any bum on the street could win one... The major flaw with your argument is that you use Klitschko as an example but fail to acknowledge that he was an "AMAZING AMATUER".

Saying "Who cares about the amateur pedigrees? That don't cut the mustard at the pro game." highlights your ignorance on the subject. Many current top fighters boast stellar amateur careers. Take for example the original participants of the super 6. All were stand out amateurs in their own countries and four of them won medals at World or Olympic level. They were widely regarded as the best fighters in a strong division, with the exception of Lucien Bute. He himself won a Bronze at the World Championships.

Not every fighter follows up on their amateur exploits, Audley Harrison being the prime example, but with him I feel he wasn't mentally up for the challenge rather than not being skilled enough. Obviously some fighters have had next to no amateur experience and performed well as a pro, but saying that amateur careers mean nothing is way off the mark.

[Scottrf]

Vitali has sold 35k tickets with 40 days to go...

Source: Random ESB poster, but with links to their camp as he called Haye/Klitchkso as signed well before anyone else.

[Scottrf]

Kessler vs Steiglitz, hopefully Kessler takes his belt and gets involved.

[6oldenbhoy]

What happened to Bute vs Kessler? I know it was mooted at one point.

[Scottrf]

Not sure but I think it might be Bute vs Pavlik if Pavlik gets through his next fight/alcoholism.

[6oldenbhoy]

What's Steiglitz like? Never seen him fight.

[Scottrf]

Solid, but does nothing too great from the only fight I've seen. Threw mainly straight punches from range without opening up too often. But like you don't know much about him. Couldn't see him beating the other champs though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyviywIftlw

[6oldenbhoy]

Just watched the fight, see what you mean. He's neat and tidy but nothing special. I just have a feeling that Kessler is a bit of a spent force, and will labour to a close decision.

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