Sergio Garcia makes racist remark when asked about Tiger

by McLaren Wed 22 May 2013, 1:38 am

First topic message reminder :

Can we all now agree the guy is an arse hole?

From the Guardian;

Sergio García's ongoing spat with Tiger Woods took an unwelcome turn night, when the Spaniard made what could be interpreted as a racist remark about his opponent.

The Spaniard was on stage at the European Tour's gala players' awards dinner, where he was questioned by the Golf Channel's Steve Sands. García, who has been embroiled in verbal battles with Woods since the Players Championship at Sawgrass this month, was asked in jest if he would have the American round for dinner one night during the upcoming US Open. "We will have him round every night," García said. "We will serve fried chicken."

The statement was similar to Fuzzy Zoeller's infamous remark towards Woods in 1997. Then, after Woods won his first major, the Masters, which entitled him to choose the champions' dinner menu for the following year, Zoeller said: "You pat him on the back and say congratulations and enjoy it and tell him not serve fried chicken next year. Got it? Or collard greens or whatever the hell they serve." Zoeller later apologised and said he had been misconstrued.

García left last night before he could be asked to clarify his remarks, but later issued a statment through the European Tour, saying: "I apologise for any offence that may have been caused by my comment on stage during The European Tour Players' Awards dinner. I answered a question that was clearly made towards me as a joke with a silly remark, but in no way was the comment meant in a racist manner."

Earlier in the day he had earlier been pressed on his relationship – or lack of one – with the world No1 when previewing the PGA Championship. "I mean, you can't like everybody," the Spaniard said. "I think that there's people that you connect with and there's people that you don't. You know, it's pretty much as simple as that. I think that he doesn't need me in his life, I don't need him in mine, and let's move on and keep doing what we're doing."

When asked when this problem first came to light, García replied: "A while back. It's never really been like a true connection like I would have maybe with Luke Donald or Lee Westwood or Adam Scott or some of the other guys that I get along with well."

Paul McGinley, who will lead Europe into the 2014 Ryder Cup, used the Surrey course as the venue to announce he is increasing the captain's wildcard picks from two to three. The leading four players from the European Tour's order of merit and five from the world rankings list will gain automatic entry for the event, to be held at Gleneagles. "I feel like by giving myself an extra pick, it's a little bit of wriggle room," McGinley explained.

"Like it or not, we have to acknowledge the fact that most of the players are now based in America, playing on the PGA Tour. I think in the big scheme of things this is actually going to help the European Tour more because I am going to be watching very closely for those three picks.

"Guys who are not in the top 50 in the world, who show a bit of form on the European Tour, they are going to rank very highly with the possible opportunity of a pick.

"Ideally, I would love to be able to say I want 12 players off the European Order of Merit. But I know that's not practical or realistic and I know I wouldn't have a strong enough team to win the Ryder Cup. At the end of the day, my head will fall; it's on me and it is my decision."

by super_realist Wed 22 May 2013, 4:35 pm

Not in defence of Garcia, more on the error of the statement you made.

by Hibbz Wed 22 May 2013, 4:41 pm

You mean you took exception to my sweeping generalisation or you took exception to me having an opinion on someone I've never met?

by super_realist Wed 22 May 2013, 4:48 pm

No, make a sweeping generalisation if you like, just don't pretend it's because you assert it's because of some background you don't even know he came from.

by hend085 Wed 22 May 2013, 5:11 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:
Hibbz wrote:Regardless of whether Garcia's comment was racial motivated, offensive or whatever I'm quite surprised that people are so ready to give him the benefit of the doubt.

As an uneducated, rich, white man who's spent most of his life surrounded by golfers I'd think there was a good chance he harbours some pretty unpleasant prejudices.
Laughable! In a thread discussing stereotyping you come up with this pearler?

surely that was a pi$$ take Hibbz?

thats pretty much the same as ........ as a black man, whos spent most of his life surrounded by men from Southern America, I'd think he loves a good old bucket of KFC

by mystiroakey Wed 22 May 2013, 5:14 pm

Hibbz. Can we all get an unreserved apoligy!

That wasnt a silly comment. Infact it was deeply hurtfull and biggoted. We are all golfers on here!!

by erictheblueuk Wed 22 May 2013, 5:24 pm

Does anybody know if Woods actually likes fried chicken ?

by mystiroakey Wed 22 May 2013, 5:26 pm

Who doesnt like fried chicken?

If he doesnt like it then he is odd lets be honest.

And off course the fact he is black makes it a done deal. He loves the stuff

(oh sh!ite what have i said)

by Hibbz Wed 22 May 2013, 5:39 pm

super_realist wrote:No, make a sweeping generalisation if you like, just don't pretend it's because you assert it's because of some background you don't even know he came from.

The background I mentioned was that he was rich, he is, I suggested he is uneducated, the fact he turned professional as a teenager suggests this is likely and his comments are further evidence and I suggested he was white.

I think my comments are based in as much fact as any of your Tiger Woods/Shane Lowery/anyone else ones.

All of this coupled with the fact the guy made a joke in public about feeding fried chicken to a black American leads me to conclude that he could be a bigot and I am of the opinion that he is.

by Hibbz Wed 22 May 2013, 5:40 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Hibbz. Can we all get an unreserved apoligy!

That wasnt a silly comment. Infact it was deeply hurtfull and biggoted. We are all golfers on here!!

All ready made it Mysti, it's on the previous page should you wish to see it x

by Hibbz Wed 22 May 2013, 5:46 pm

hend085 wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
Hibbz wrote:Regardless of whether Garcia's comment was racial motivated, offensive or whatever I'm quite surprised that people are so ready to give him the benefit of the doubt.

As an uneducated, rich, white man who's spent most of his life surrounded by golfers I'd think there was a good chance he harbours some pretty unpleasant prejudices.
Laughable! In a thread discussing stereotyping you come up with this pearler?

surely that was a pi$$ take Hibbz?

thats pretty much the same as ........ as a black man, whos spent most of his life surrounded by men from Southern America, I'd think he loves a good old bucket of KFC

And did you see the reaction from the same people that were suggesting there wasn't anything particularly unpleasant in what Garcia said?

I'm pleased to see Garcia seems to be in public at least contrite which means he at least now, if not before, realises what he has said isn't good.

by kwinigolfer Wed 22 May 2013, 5:52 pm

It might be helpful if some of Sergio's mates came forward to give him some advice - not sure about his Spanish friends but he's pretty close to Luke Donald, Tim Clark and Adam Scott, all of them highly respected figures. Perhaps a collective word in Sergio's ear might not go amiss.

(Interesting that T.Woods takes no offence when African American golfing greats of the past take issue with his record or behaviour - colour very much a flag of convenience methinks. None of which excuses Sergio from being stupid.)

by Diggers Wed 22 May 2013, 5:59 pm

So pretty much Kwini he's damned if he does and he's damned if he doesn't ?
The fact is, considering how many people have something to say about Woods and not just his golf, as far as I can see he says very little in response to any of it.
He hasn't said much in response to Garcia. A sentence at a press conference. A no to a journalist. And a few tweets to try and put a line under it.
He's hardly going for a full on press assault.

by super_realist Wed 22 May 2013, 6:02 pm

I actually commend Nine Chins for virtually no response. I presume it was one of his minions that tweeted on his behalf. It's everyone else that has gone all Guardian on the subject.

As far as I can see, it's two people who don't really see eye to eye, nothing more than that. I know people at my work like that. Doesn't affect anything though.

by Diggers Wed 22 May 2013, 6:07 pm

You have people at work you do see eye to eye with Super ? Shocked

by barragan Wed 22 May 2013, 6:15 pm

Hibbz wrote:Ignorance of what?

quote board material thumbsup

by super_realist Wed 22 May 2013, 6:16 pm

actually, not really Diggers, I have people who I don't consider friends, but who I still get along with in a work capacity, that's how I see this issue.

by mystiroakey Wed 22 May 2013, 6:22 pm

super_realist wrote:I actually commend Nine Chins for virtually no response. I presume it was one of his minions that tweeted on his behalf. It's everyone else that has gone all Guardian on the subject.

As far as I can see, it's two people who don't really see eye to eye, nothing more than that. I know people at my work like that. Doesn't affect anything though.

Incont mate you have a gift ..

SR is still all lovely dovey over 9 chins!!

by incontinentia Wed 22 May 2013, 7:10 pm

i still can't believe it mysti!

to be honest i kinda miss the old super and his Tiger-bashing...

by robopz Wed 22 May 2013, 8:52 pm

Statement from Sergio's main sponsor TMaG....

"Sergio Garcia’s recent comment was offensive and in no way aligns with TaylorMade-adidas Golf’s values and corporate culture. We have spoken with Sergio directly and he clearly has regret for his statement and we believe he is sincere. We discussed with Sergio that his comments are clearly out of bounds and we are continuing to review the matter."

by mystiroakey Wed 22 May 2013, 8:53 pm

his sponsers are getting involved. Oh dear... this is becoming a joke

by robopz Wed 22 May 2013, 9:21 pm

super_realist wrote:I actually commend Nine Chins for virtually no response. I presume it was one of his minions that tweeted on his behalf. It's everyone else that has gone all Guardian on the subject.

As far as I can see, it's two people who don't really see eye to eye, nothing more than that. I know people at my work like that. Doesn't affect anything though.

Super... I too commend you on the even handedness of your remarks above. And as for your last sentence I agree with that as well... that is in that it doesn't affect the big picture of golf and competition.

But this is SURE to affect Sergio and the way he's going to be treated in the future. As I've read a lot of the comments from those living outside the states, it's obvious to me that many just don't understand the environment surrounding racism in America. It's not about fried chicken... it's about stereotyping, which in the case of non-blacks making stereotypical comments about blacks, it is viewed as tantamount to blatant ugly even violent racism in this country.

No point in me writing a novel of opinion on why it's that way, and what's right or wrong, or just and unjust about that reality... it's better to just accept that it IS the reality among a large segment of our population... And NOT just by the blacks.

Bottom line: I don't think either Sergio would necessarily walk across the street to give Tiger a glass of water if his hair were on fire. (OK, neither would Tiger, but he's not the one on the hot seat here) But I DON'T think it's that way with Sergio because Tiger's black (or part black, or whatever). But regardless... this is not going to be seen as a case of stereotypical humor gone wrong.... this will be seen as blatant racism no two ways about it.

Don't any of my European friends underestimate what a big deal this is gonna be here... and how big a problem this is going to be for Sergio.

by dynamark Wed 22 May 2013, 9:24 pm

Sergio out of bounds,Stroke and distance.Whatever next.
For goodness sake lets get some golf going.be hard to get a word out of Garcia fpr the rest of the season

by kingraf Wed 22 May 2013, 10:00 pm

I cant believe this has been made such a big deal. I mean, if he said " "We will have him round
every night," García said. "We will serve fried
chicken like his people like it", then there was a case. But Im black, and even though I find it an incredibly unfunny joke, I dont think its racist.

by mystiroakey Wed 22 May 2013, 10:04 pm

Its all in perspective. Watching the BBC News

the headlines.

A terrorist attacker beheads a solider!

then

Sergio apoligises for the fried chicken incident!

by kwinigolfer Wed 22 May 2013, 10:08 pm

robo,
I agree with what you say, but it will only become a big deal to people who choose to be prejudiced against Garcia. To everyone else it's stupid, unnecessary and a continued re-opening of a festering wound.
Even with living here for 35 yrs I've never realised "fried chicken" to be a racial slur - a southern stereotype perhaps. I always thought the Fuzzy Zoeller spat to be about "collard greens" rather than fried chicken. My naivete clearly.

I seriously doubt there's a racist bone in Garcia's body, but the irony of all this is not lost on those of us who see institutional racism in the extremes of the political party supported by 90% of Tour pros. And two wrongs certainly don't make a right.

by **navyblueshorts** Wed 22 May 2013, 10:29 pm

robopz wrote:
super_realist wrote:I actually commend Nine Chins for virtually no response. I presume it was one of his minions that tweeted on his behalf. It's everyone else that has gone all Guardian on the subject.

As far as I can see, it's two people who don't really see eye to eye, nothing more than that. I know people at my work like that. Doesn't affect anything though.

Super... I too commend you on the even handedness of your remarks above. And as for your last sentence I agree with that as well... that is in that it doesn't affect the big picture of golf and competition.

But this is SURE to affect Sergio and the way he's going to be treated in the future. As I've read a lot of the comments from those living outside the states, it's obvious to me that many just don't understand the environment surrounding racism in America. It's not about fried chicken... it's about stereotyping, which in the case of non-blacks making stereotypical comments about blacks, it is viewed as tantamount to blatant ugly even violent racism in this country.

No point in me writing a novel of opinion on why it's that way, and what's right or wrong, or just and unjust about that reality... it's better to just accept that it IS the reality among a large segment of our population... And NOT just by the blacks.

Bottom line: I don't think either Sergio would necessarily walk across the street to give Tiger a glass of water if his hair were on fire. (OK, neither would Tiger, but he's not the one on the hot seat here) But I DON'T think it's that way with Sergio because Tiger's black (or part black, or whatever). But regardless... this is not going to be seen as a case of stereotypical humor gone wrong.... this will be seen as blatant racism no two ways about it.

Don't any of my European friends underestimate what a big deal this is gonna be here... and how big a problem this is going to be for Sergio.

Interesting take on it robopz.
Shame that people really are that stupid but then again...
I would have hoped that the golf 'fans' in the US were mature enough to let it lie but then again...
Maybe people over here should take it out more on TW for his 'spazz' remark of years gone by? Then again, maybe golf 'fans' this side of the pond are a little more sensible?
Time a lot of people grew up maybe?

by **navyblueshorts** Wed 22 May 2013, 10:31 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:...Even with living here for 35 yrs I've never realised "fried chicken" to be a racial slur - a southern stereotype perhaps. I always thought the Fuzzy Zoeller spat to be about "collard greens" rather than fried chicken. My naivete clearly...

Quite. Still, I don't suppose those with an axe to grind will let this sort of thing get in the way of the nonsense.

by incontinentia Wed 22 May 2013, 10:38 pm

kingraf wrote:I cant believe this has been made such a big deal. I mean, if he said " "We will have him round
every night," García said. "We will serve fried
chicken like his people like it", then there was a case. But Im black, and even though I find it an incredibly unfunny joke, I dont think its racist.

maybe not racist but racial stereotyping and thats not cool. are there any black stereotypes in south africa? and if so what would you think if someone used one to poke fun at you?

by super_realist Wed 22 May 2013, 10:42 pm

robopz wrote:
Bottom line: I don't think either Sergio would necessarily walk across the street to give Tiger a glass of water if his hair were on fire.

What hair?

by **navyblueshorts** Wed 22 May 2013, 10:45 pm

super_realist wrote:
robopz wrote:
Bottom line: I don't think either Sergio would necessarily walk across the street to give Tiger a glass of water if his hair were on fire.

What hair?

by incontinentia Wed 22 May 2013, 10:46 pm

super_realist wrote:
robopz wrote:
Bottom line: I don't think either Sergio would necessarily walk across the street to give Tiger a glass of water if his hair were on fire.

What hair?

classic super_realist!

by kwinigolfer Wed 22 May 2013, 10:48 pm

What hair?
Good point s_r, neither got much to shout about in that department.
In ten years time they'll be two 40-something gits, still hurling insults at each other, bald as coots, Sergio still seeking to requite some love from somewhere, Tiger on wife number five, desperate for his PGA Tour pension to kick in to finance all the pre-nups.

by super_realist Wed 22 May 2013, 10:51 pm

Come to think of it there aren't many golfers who are terribly likeable are there?

by incontinentia Wed 22 May 2013, 10:54 pm

Johnson Wagner is.

by super_realist Wed 22 May 2013, 10:56 pm

Johnson Wangerier-er.

Love his 'tash, pure comedy and he knows it. Not like that little twit with an a Rickie Fowler.

by robopz Wed 22 May 2013, 11:20 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:robo,
I agree with what you say, but it will only become a big deal to people who choose to be prejudiced against Garcia. To everyone else it's stupid, unnecessary and a continued re-opening of a festering wound.
Even with living here for 35 yrs I've never realised "fried chicken" to be a racial slur - a southern stereotype perhaps. I always thought the Fuzzy Zoeller spat to be about "collard greens" rather than fried chicken. My naivete clearly.

I seriously doubt there's a racist bone in Garcia's body, but the irony of all this is not lost on those of us who see institutional racism in the extremes of the political party supported by 90% of Tour pros. And two wrongs certainly don't make a right.

It will be a big deal because the environment of professional class self-victimization, political correctness and "learned" guilt is getting sooooooooooo out of control in this country. Have you seen a middle school social studies curriculum lately?

by kwinigolfer Thu 23 May 2013, 12:17 am

robo,
Remember, I'm from "old Europe"!

Even in the midst of creating dozens of jobs in CNY I received anonymous nationalistic hate notes, my reward for creating hundreds of jobs here in VT was being black-balled in the employment market because of not being a citizen.

It would be nice to think we can get past all that . . . . . . .

by McLaren Thu 23 May 2013, 4:08 am

I just have to question why he thought of the fried chicken remark and why he chose a comment filled with racial stereotype.

I also dont understand the level of sympathy shown towards him on this thread. I dont tend to hang out with people who I need to make excuses for when it comes to making racial stereotypes so thankfully it is not something I am often exposed to.

When it comes to racism on this board the moto seems to be if in doubt we should let them off. Why not follow the reasoning of if in doubt ask why they even made the comment?

If there is still a sergio fan left, and somehow there still seems to be many, I wonder what you make of his answer about whether he would withdraw from wentworth. he replied;

" I feel like the tournament deserves to have me"

Really!

by GT350 Thu 23 May 2013, 5:46 am

kwinigolfer wrote:robo,
Remember, I'm from "old Europe"!

Even in the midst of creating dozens of jobs in CNY I received anonymous nationalistic hate notes, my reward for creating hundreds of jobs here in VT was being black-balled in the employment market because of not being a citizen.

It would be nice to think we can get past all that . . . . . . .

Do you ever look in a mirror Kwini?
In case that is a bit subtle for you, it is a dig at your perpetual inability to "get past" the things you seem to have a problem with.

by super_realist Thu 23 May 2013, 6:40 am

McLaren wrote:I just have to question why he thought of the fried chicken remark and why he chose a comment filled with racial stereotype.

I also dont understand the level of sympathy shown towards him on this thread. I dont tend to hang out with people who I need to make excuses for when it comes to making racial stereotypes so thankfully it is not something I am often exposed to.

When it comes to racism on this board the moto seems to be if in doubt we should let them off. Why not follow the reasoning of if in doubt ask why they even made the comment?

If there is still a sergio fan left, and somehow there still seems to be many, I wonder what you make of his answer about whether he would withdraw from wentworth. he replied;

" I feel like the tournament deserves to have me"

Really!

Mac, you've made plenty of remarks which can be construed as offensive. Stop being such a poof and move on. He's apologised, that's the end of it.

by beninho Thu 23 May 2013, 8:13 am

isn't the whole thing just about context? Sergio US not making a comment about a friend so it cannot really be classed as a joke. As been shown he doesn't joke around with tiger that often...It's clearly a racist comment and a poor taste one at that. Though you don't have to berracist to make a racist comment. and he is making a content against a group of people that not very long ago Had to still sit at the back of the bus. but then again he is Spanish and they blacked up at a grand prix once.

it will take a long time to get over this for his reputation. I just don't get how people can't see the racial connotations to it all. but then golf is a predominately white middle/higher class sport and that's the problem.

by MustPuttBetter Thu 23 May 2013, 8:46 am

I love the people who throw out the 'these stereotypes and racism are terrible, but then he's Spanish and they're all racist aren't they'.

Ironic

by Diggers Thu 23 May 2013, 8:53 am

Well Spain does have a massive problem with casual racism and a Spaniard just made a racist comment so its more of an observation than anything else Id say.
Or are you saying Spain doesn't have problems with racism especially against blacks ?
From Garcia's statements this morning seems clear he at least accepts the comment was racial as he's obviously mortified and isn't trying to hide behind it as being some kind of general American nonsense.

by Tiler76 Thu 23 May 2013, 9:25 am

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Or do we know Sergio to be a liar now?

He made a jokey response (in very poor taste) to a jokey question asked of him (no criticism here of the idiot who asked the question despite Sergio getting slaughtered, since "context" was referenced above). That response seems to have more racial context in America than it does in the UK. Sergio says it wasn't intended as a racist comment, and has apologised repeatedly and unreservedly. Ignorance of whether this term is racist or not is not an excuse, but it seems many (myself included) would not have known before this week that this term had any racist connotations. It seems to me Sergio is guilty of this ignorance only (and rank stupidity for not STFU on Tiger days ago).

As Mysti alludes to above, given the tragedies on both sides of the Atlantic this week, surely it's time to move on?

by incontinentia Thu 23 May 2013, 9:31 am

Sergio needs to do what Tiger did after his scandal and make a live televised apology to the whole world. and possibly attend some sort of treatment facility for racists.

by JAS Thu 23 May 2013, 9:48 am

Got to say I'm utterly bemused by the whole episode and the reaction to it. I've also learned something really useful...I.e. if dating a coloured burd...don't offer to take her to KFC for lunch!!

Seriously though I think Sergio would probably benefit from a bit of media coaching. Hindsights a wonderful thing but if I had been posed the same question as he was on Tuesday my reply would have been "we are at Wentworth this week and I'm preparing for the PGA Championship, Tiger is not competing here this week so what is the significance and motivation behind your question?"

As for Tiger...he's probably off to see a surgeon to see if the secret wry smile on his face can be surgically removed. Give him his dues, he's milked the outrage to its full potential.

Coming back to the Fried Chicken thing...I think it's just downright absurd to attach a racial connotation to a food dish and get offended on others behalf because of it.

Mac...why don't you go and attempt to substantiate the alleged racial stereotype by standing outside a KFC for a day with a clipboard and record the demographic of that days clientele. If it comes back at say 90% Afro Caribbean then I'll concede the point that fried chicken is indeed a black persons dish and nobody should ever make comments about it for fear of causing faux-fence.

by hend085 Thu 23 May 2013, 10:04 am

incontinentia wrote:Sergio needs to do what Tiger did after his scandal and make a live televised apology to the whole world. and possibly attend some sort of treatment facility for racists.

wonder if Jose Marie will take the notah begay role.

by Diggers Thu 23 May 2013, 10:11 am

JAS wrote:

Coming back to the Fried Chicken thing...I think it's just downright absurd to attach a racial connotation to a food dish and get offended on others behalf because of it.

Mac...why don't you go and attempt to substantiate the alleged racial stereotype by standing outside a KFC for a day with a clipboard and record the demographic of that days clientele. If it comes back at say 90% Afro Caribbean then I'll concede the point that fried chicken is indeed a black persons dish and nobody should ever make comments about it for fear of causing faux-fence.

So Jas, if its just an alleged racial stereotype then why does the whole worlds press seem to know about it ? Why did everyone in the whole room know when he said he said it the implication and what would follow. Simple reason is because its well known throughout the world, to be honest quite how Kwini doesn't know about the fried chicken and watermelon associations beggars belief but there you go. I can only assume he has never watched a movie in his life. Its the sort of reference that crops up all over the place.
I'm bored rigid with people saying others are getting offended on Tigers behalf, its not the level of offence the remark causes that interests me its the the extent people will go to suggesting that it wasn't even about race in the first place which to me is an utter nonsense.

by **navyblueshorts** Thu 23 May 2013, 10:32 am

McLaren wrote:I just have to question why he thought of the fried chicken remark and why he chose a comment filled with racial stereotype.

I also dont understand the level of sympathy shown towards him on this thread. I dont tend to hang out with people who I need to make excuses for when it comes to making racial stereotypes so thankfully it is not something I am often exposed to.

When it comes to racism on this board the moto seems to be if in doubt we should let them off. Why not follow the reasoning of if in doubt ask why they even made the comment?

If there is still a sergio fan left, and somehow there still seems to be many, I wonder what you make of his answer about whether he would withdraw from wentworth. he replied;

" I feel like the tournament deserves to have me"

Really!

Ah yes. The old 'take one part of an interview out of context trick'! Good one!

As for your comments re. other posters here and their take on racism (or not), don't you dare try and paint me into any sort of stereotype just because I happen to disagree with you. Kwini says he wasn't aware of the connotations associated with this damned 'fried chicken' and he's been living in the US for decades. Why can't you imagine that SG might have been unaware? Just because you remember Zoeller etc, doesn't mean he does or even gave a sh!t when Zoeller said it.

by MustPuttBetter Thu 23 May 2013, 10:33 am

Digs, Sergio has 'accepted' it was a racial comment because he's under so much pressure he has no choice. I've no doubt if you asked him personally he might try and explain it as some American 'nonsense'.

For the life of me I can't see how making an observation that Spanish people have a racist issue is any different to making an observation that Tiger might eat fried chicken. Utterly ludicrous

As I said yesterday if I get asked if I'm inviting Jeev Milka over for dinner and I say I'm cooking curry, does that make me racist? Of course not

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