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Lions V NSW Waratahs
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This is obviously a very important game in the overall context of the tour. Gats should use it primarily as a tough run out for his test team 1 week before the test series begins. But will he still want to give some players a chance to put up their hands? Are there certain positions still up for grabs and if so will he try and use this game as a winner takes all shoot out. It is not ideal to still be asking players to play the Brumbies game and then appear in the 1st test, although not impossible.
For me it should be:
Adam Jones - nailed on
Hibbard - almost nailed on
Grant - experiment
POC - nailed on
AWJ - trial V Parling
Lydiate - needs to prove himself
Faletau - needs to prove himself
Warbs - needs to prove himself
Phillips - nailed on
Sexton - nailed on
North - nailed on
Roberts - nailed on
BOD - nailed on
Maitland - experiment
1/2P - nailed on
Bench:
Cole.....purely for some hard match practice as I see Jones as nailed on
T.Youngs....could challenge for a starting spot if he excels as a replacement - worth a look
Vuni.......originally viewed as an impact sub so interesting to see how he goes compared to the highly rated (by the Scots) Grant who is deserving of a start
Parling.....worth another look to see if he is worth a starting or bench spot
Croft....another who deserves a run out to see if he is worth a bench spot
Heaslip....given an opportunity could take the starters spot
Youngs....assuming he will be the test sub so let him see what impact he can make
Farrell....ditto as for Youngs
Is a 6/2 bench split a bit risky?
Who would you like to see run out on Sat and do you just want the test side to play or do you still see this as a chance to experiment and give players a fair crack?
Update with actual team.
Lions team: Leigh Halfpenny; Sean Maitland, Jonathan Davies, Jamie Roberts, Simon Zebo; Jonathan Sexton, Mike Phillips; Mako Vunipola, Tom Youngs, Adam Jones, Alun Wyn Jones, Paul O'Connell , Tom Croft, Sam Warburton (capt), Jamie Heaslip
Replacements: Richard Hibbard, Alex Corbisiero, Dan Cole, Geoff Parling, Dan Lydiate, Ben Youngs, Owen Farrell, Rob Kearney
This is obviously a very important game in the overall context of the tour. Gats should use it primarily as a tough run out for his test team 1 week before the test series begins. But will he still want to give some players a chance to put up their hands? Are there certain positions still up for grabs and if so will he try and use this game as a winner takes all shoot out. It is not ideal to still be asking players to play the Brumbies game and then appear in the 1st test, although not impossible.
For me it should be:
Adam Jones - nailed on
Hibbard - almost nailed on
Grant - experiment
POC - nailed on
AWJ - trial V Parling
Lydiate - needs to prove himself
Faletau - needs to prove himself
Warbs - needs to prove himself
Phillips - nailed on
Sexton - nailed on
North - nailed on
Roberts - nailed on
BOD - nailed on
Maitland - experiment
1/2P - nailed on
Bench:
Cole.....purely for some hard match practice as I see Jones as nailed on
T.Youngs....could challenge for a starting spot if he excels as a replacement - worth a look
Vuni.......originally viewed as an impact sub so interesting to see how he goes compared to the highly rated (by the Scots) Grant who is deserving of a start
Parling.....worth another look to see if he is worth a starting or bench spot
Croft....another who deserves a run out to see if he is worth a bench spot
Heaslip....given an opportunity could take the starters spot
Youngs....assuming he will be the test sub so let him see what impact he can make
Farrell....ditto as for Youngs
Is a 6/2 bench split a bit risky?
Who would you like to see run out on Sat and do you just want the test side to play or do you still see this as a chance to experiment and give players a fair crack?
Update with actual team.
Lions team: Leigh Halfpenny; Sean Maitland, Jonathan Davies, Jamie Roberts, Simon Zebo; Jonathan Sexton, Mike Phillips; Mako Vunipola, Tom Youngs, Adam Jones, Alun Wyn Jones, Paul O'Connell , Tom Croft, Sam Warburton (capt), Jamie Heaslip
Replacements: Richard Hibbard, Alex Corbisiero, Dan Cole, Geoff Parling, Dan Lydiate, Ben Youngs, Owen Farrell, Rob Kearney
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I really think BOD could have to settle for a bench play after today
I guess we will see how much Gatland has already made his mind up
I guess we will see how much Gatland has already made his mind up
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Really annoyed though with Mako carrying with one hand - in the words of Hans Solo - 'Don't get cocky kid'
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ooh Chilli could be coming on...does that mean Halfpee will be off or move to wing?
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LIONS NAILED
Halfpenny
Davies
Roberts
Sexton
Phillips
AWJ
Vunipola
Jones
Halfpenny
Davies
Roberts
Sexton
Phillips
AWJ
Vunipola
Jones
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Ha ha ha ha...!
Trev
On one side he has been superb the other he does bugger all as a forward.
Great pace but doesn't do enough in the forwards.
Plus points for him tonight are definitely winning a penalty at a ruck and scoring a try. Bad points is that we need another man at the breakdown and croft is out wide too often.
We need a happy medium between croft and Lydiate at blindside and the answer is Warburton to be honest. With Tipuric at openside.
Trev
On one side he has been superb the other he does bugger all as a forward.
Great pace but doesn't do enough in the forwards.
Plus points for him tonight are definitely winning a penalty at a ruck and scoring a try. Bad points is that we need another man at the breakdown and croft is out wide too often.
We need a happy medium between croft and Lydiate at blindside and the answer is Warburton to be honest. With Tipuric at openside.
BigTrevsbigmac wrote:Croft proves his unique talent
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Warbs is over the ball at every ruck now - he is match fit again
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Dont think theres anypoint having O'Driscoll on the bench either he starts or he doesnt play!
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The subs bench are warming up..
Cole for jones, Youngs for Jones and Parling for jones?
Cole for jones, Youngs for Jones and Parling for jones?
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Zebo rushed up a bit early then :/
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Tahs go for the silly lineout again and first steal by Croft.
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What a hit on Alywynjo...but that don't stop him.
Lions breakdown a bit creaky...
Lions breakdown a bit creaky...
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Not trying to be cocky but when you see which players are putting their hands up you can kinda see why Wales have won back to back championships.
A lot of Welsh quality since the Gatland era began.
A lot of Welsh quality since the Gatland era began.
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A touchline camera on a Segway...? Very clever.
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Tom youngs off - has he played his way onto the team with that display?
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ooh get the Tahs number 9 slapping Phillips! Dirty bugggers aren't they?
Lots of Lions changes now...
Lots of Lions changes now...
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Jolly good of Gats to let Barnes know the test team in advance
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Whole bench is on
Lydiate and Warburton back together
Lydiate and Warburton back together
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Wow! Look at those tackle stats...POC and Bread of Seven top tacklers today.
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Heaslip has had a quite game, hasn't taken his chance to sow up the starting place
Hibbard needs a big 20
Hibbard needs a big 20
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LondonTiger wrote:Tom youngs off - has he played his way onto the team with that display?
I think he has been superb and would have him starting
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I see Tommy Bowe with his bad paw!!!!
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The subs bench looks like a quick fit mechanics shop, loads of mechanics running around fixing limbs and appendages instead of exhausts and tyres
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Go Maitland! Floppy pass mind, but he had to do it...well picked up by JD2.
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Pass off the floor by Warbs was top class.
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Davies is all over the place!
Good start for Kearney
Poor pace from Maitland
Good start for Kearney
Poor pace from Maitland
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HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAVE...
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Strong shove, but had they lostthe ball?
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Lions pushing for another scrum...wear them down boys....
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The new front row looking to make a statement
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Cari wrote:Wow! Look at those tackle stats...POC and Bread of Seven top tacklers today.
Croft at blindside didn't even get into that tackle stats POC and Warbs 11 each, Croft less than 7......... Blindside has to be top of the tackle stats IMHO
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What's Mariella Frostrup doing in the coaching seats?
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wales606 wrote:I really think BOD could have to settle for a bench play after today
I guess we will see how much Gatland has already made his mind up
Hardly. Roberts been rather quiet and ineffective in attack, Davies excellent in attack but caught out too often in defence. BOD will be in there, no doubt about it.
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Get used to watching scrum resets guys...! This will be a big part of the test.
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This has been a good perfomance
Still work to do, but this is more like a test winning performance than anything we have seen so far
Still work to do, but this is more like a test winning performance than anything we have seen so far
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flyhalffactory wrote:Cari wrote:Wow! Look at those tackle stats...POC and Bread of Seven top tacklers today.
Croft at blindside didn't even get into that tackle stats POC and Warbs 11 each, Croft less than 7......... Blindside has to be top of the tackle stats IMHO
As a former openside I would have been disappointed in my performance if I did not have the most tackles.
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Ah buggger...all that hard work and the Lions are pinged.
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Corbs gives away a penalty in the scrum - thats a black mark
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Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:wales606 wrote:I really think BOD could have to settle for a bench play after today
I guess we will see how much Gatland has already made his mind up
Hardly. Roberts been rather quiet and ineffective in attack, Davies excellent in attack but caught out too often in defence. BOD will be in there, no doubt about it.
WHAT!!!! For goodness sake
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Youngs does not have Phillips physicality, but much sharper at the breakdown clearing the ball.
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Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:wales606 wrote:I really think BOD could have to settle for a bench play after today
I guess we will see how much Gatland has already made his mind up
Hardly. Roberts been rather quiet and ineffective in attack, Davies excellent in attack but caught out too often in defence. BOD will be in there, no doubt about it.
Absolute BS...! Davies defence has been textbook stuff superb performance all round
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ooh nooo...Dr Robs a little injured. He's limping.
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Lazy running by Tahs, just to show Bob Dwyer that aussies can cheat too
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What did Rory best do to his left eye, he's had a black eye for months it seems.
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First dodgy thing by JD2 there (after 70mins of excellence), very odd looking attempt at a pass.
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flyhalffactory wrote:Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:wales606 wrote:I really think BOD could have to settle for a bench play after today
I guess we will see how much Gatland has already made his mind up
Hardly. Roberts been rather quiet and ineffective in attack, Davies excellent in attack but caught out too often in defence. BOD will be in there, no doubt about it.
WHAT!!!! For goodness sake
That would have been Farrell's reaction as well. He came up in a blitz a few times, creating gaps and exposing people outside him- even the Sky commentators pointed it out. If you watched the first half it was clearly obvious. So his performance has been very good, but far from perfect. Davies/BOD looks likes a good combo.
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That would've been a good move by Farrell if Mitchell wasn't too strong for him.
Phew, Roberts up and walking about.
Phew, Roberts up and walking about.
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Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:wales606 wrote:I really think BOD could have to settle for a bench play after today
I guess we will see how much Gatland has already made his mind up
Hardly. Roberts been rather quiet and ineffective in attack, Davies excellent in attack but caught out too often in defence. BOD will be in there, no doubt about it.
You must be watching a different game! Besides BOD is yet to play in a real game.
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Roberts is walking now apparenly
Hope he is ok
Hope he is ok
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Nice pass from Youngs and attacking line from JD2
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