Steve Darcis' injuries

Many probably do not know full well the injury history of Steve Darcis. Not being one the top guys, this is absolutely exusable, so here is the full list:



Steve Darcis (BEL)


All Injuries

Right shoulder 39/2012 40/2012
Back 25/2012 26/2012
Right shoulder 1/2012 6/2012
Low back pain 42/2011 42/2011
Unknown 25/2011 27/2011
Left hamstring 19/2011 20/2011
Stiff neck 35/2010 38/2010
Unknown 27/2010 30/2010
Left quadriceps 18/2010 19/2010
Unknown 12/2010 19/2010
Shoulder 18/2009 22/2009
Foot 6/2009 10/2009
Unknown 35/2008 40/2008
Back 34/2008 35/2008
Wrist 16/2008 18/2008
Left calf 39/2007 39/2007
Unknown 23/2007 26/2007
Abdominals 4/2007 13/2007
Right Wrist 20/2006 21/2006
Right Ankle Strain 37/2004 7/2005

Some questions spring to mind:

Are any of those injuries impacting his game right now?

Could have he achieved more in his career without those?

Are we correctly factoring in the impact of past and present injuries, not only for  Darcis but for any given player in the ATP when he's lost a match? (E.g Delpotro/ Hewitt/ Haas/ Blake/ Safin/ Edberg/ Federer .......).

What if........these guys didn't have injuries throughout their career? How many more slams would they have won?

Hehe

But you're forgetting the Golden rule: only Nadal's injuries count. He has after all missed three slams in the last 7 and a half years due to injury.

I mean the guy is so injured that some people think he would already have been GOAT were it not for his awful injuries (despite the fact that he wouldn't have been the clear favourite in any of the slams that he missed, but hey, let's just give them to him anyway).

I'm sure he's had a million surgeries. Right?

Surely he's only played half a career's worth of matches - What, he's already played over 600 matches on tour having just turned 27? Where did he find the time with all his injuries!

The poor guy was literally hobbling around yesterday, right? After two weeks of rest preceeded by the best run of his career.

Anyway, apologies if I'm a little tired of all this injury talk.



emancipator

But I am tired as well Emanci!! That's way I want people talking played tennis and not excuses/ injuries.

Other than that: do we really know who is being hampered by injuries and who isn't, or is it all worthless conjecture?

Jeremy_Kyle wrote:But I am tired as well Emanci!! That's way I want people talking played tennis and not excuses/ injuries.

Other than that: do we really know who is being hampered by injuries and who isn't, or is it all worthless conjecture?

Says the person raising another thread to speak about injuries.

I'm with you man. As far as I'm concerned it's worthless conjecture. There are probably a boat load of players with injury concerns but we don't know anything about them. Fitness and injury are part of the game. If you're not fit - don't play.

He actually beat Berdych in the Olympics, so the guy can actually play. You may just be write, he might have been a great talent, if not for injuries

I'm assuming this thread will deal with Steve Darcis' injuries and not get further derailed by emancipator.

Were all tired of the injury talk... soo why bring up another thread about them?

so that .....even Darcis can get his due.........

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"

Yes Falzy you are right. Fortunately, it's not literal.

The only reason I am commenting here is because I've seen this said (in the metophorical sense of course) a few times about a few comments since Nadal's unfortunate demise. i.e. two wrongs don't make a right etc etc.  

Many of Nadal fans (not all - I am not tarring you all with the same brush) have blinded most people (in one eye while we carry on with the metaphor) with their poor observations/understanding with regards his seeding since before RG. And some OTT articles intending to do exactly what they did.

You can't think that members should have to be put up with what was either WUMMING (or stupidity) of the highest order and then not expect articles in return (I actually think this one is quite clever/funny!). Please put up with my rubbish but I don't want yours.

'Don't do too others what you don't want done to you'.

Came from my Dad. Stood me in good stead.  

So there are certain members who could actually gain a lot of (much needed) credibility by coming on here and showing a bit of humility. Something we all have to do at some point in life.

I doubt that is going to happen very much.

This is true, but to stop it one side has to break the cycle. Remember jeep you have the mods on your side here. If one side winds you up, and you dont go for revenge, youd be amazed how it'll neutralise the situation. Works in real life a lot too. If they still go at it, well youve got Julius who is a fantastic mod who will put an end to it forcefully, see yesterday.
Remember though its not a wind up for people to get excited about their player, or optimistic, its nice to be optimistic, life grinds you down enough... aggressive or hateful comment towards players or people IS of course WUMMING, as well as other stuff. Just be very care, its very easy to generalise and end up offending people who were on yuor side.

Well said, Johnyjeep.

I don't think any of us are surprised that the poster who most represents what you describe has not made an appearance on here following yesterday's result...

Understood HM itll be hard to get that one to see sense

falzy21 wrote:"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"

I think it would be just half of the world's population but...... got you

Wow, very good article and an extensive research if the stats are true.

Yea very true every player goes through injuries and don't exactly end up where they should end up, fans do need to accept injuries are part and parcel of the game.

I think as a general rule, that happens IC. Darcis has probably under achieved. Only won 73 ATP matches, but that imcludes two wins over top ten opposition. A few people have called him a nothing player, but you dont have victories over Berdych and Nadal on your ledger without having something. Although Nadal's injury lost probably reads longer than Darcis' if we include two day niggles like JK did.
Imagine
Knee - 7/2003
Knee - 9/2003
Knee - 10/2003
Knee - 1/2004
knee - 3/2004
foot - 6/2004
knee - 9/2004
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
shoulder
knee
knee
knee
knee
shoulder
abdominal
knee
knee
foot
knee
knee

(how many days are in seven months?)

true KF.

invisiblecoolers wrote:Wow, very good article and an extensive research if the stats are true.

Yea very true every player goes through injuries and don't exactly end up where they should end up, fans do need to accept injuries are part and parcel of the game.

thks, you can find these stats here

http://www.matchstat.com/PlayerInjuries/5838

Are roger fans really complaining about people complaining about injuries? Wow, as our neighbors to the south would say you guys have some serious juevos, they must dangle down underneath you and scrape the floor as you walk. This after years of hearing about how everybody else's wins in 2008 were asterisked because the great swiss Yahweh had mono. Or who dismissed berdych's win against fed at wimby due to his back etc. This even considering the fact that Federer has probably had the best luck with injuries of any modern athlete we have ever seen. I personally don't mind people taking in to account injuries a player has suffered and discussing it is a factor in a said result.

for Nadal and his injuries I give the man extra credit for fighting back and being as damn good as he is. He showed a great deal of class in his interview by refusing to address his knee and he was asked repeatedly about it by the press and each and every time he just gave credit to his opponent.

On the OP, yes Darcis maybe could have been a player who could have won 50 or 100 more ATP matches if he had decent luck with injuries.

socal1976 wrote:Are roger fans really complaining about people complaining about injuries? Wow, as our neighbors to the south would say you guys have some serious juevos, they must dangle down underneath you and scrape the floor as you walk.

Mine do.

JuliusHMarx wrote:

socal1976 wrote:Are roger fans really complaining about people complaining about injuries? Wow, as our neighbors to the south would say you guys have some serious juevos, they must dangle down underneath you and scrape the floor as you walk.

Mine do.

That is a serious problem Julius that you should get checked out as temporary fix may I suggest a wheel barrel.

There is yet another FO champion - Schiavone, who seems to be going out in R1 against Lisicki (Darcis's neighbour).

kingraf wrote:I think as a general rule, that happens IC. Darcis has probably under achieved. Only won 73 ATP matches, but that imcludes two wins over top ten opposition. A few people have called him a nothing player, but you dont have victories over Berdych and Nadal on your ledger without having something. Although Nadal's injury lost probably reads longer than Darcis' if we include two day niggles like JK did.
Imagine
Knee - 7/2003
Knee - 9/2003
Knee - 10/2003
Knee - 1/2004
knee - 3/2004
foot -  6/2004
knee - 9/2004
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
knee
shoulder
knee
knee
knee
knee
shoulder
abdominal
knee
knee
foot
knee
knee

(how many days are in seven months?)

I'd like to my list now Kingraf,

Socal-

2009-alcohol intoxication, and a real bad hang nail
2010-alcohol intoxication, and mild insomnia
2011-alcohol intoxication, ate a bad taco from a street vendor
2012-alcohol intoxication, and actually tore my hamstring
2013-alcohol intoxication, and a nasty paper cut

Let me add mine then:
elbow
Knee
Hangover
Really bad trip on cough mixture
Really bad trip on Asprin
minor ACL tear
knee
Exam stress
Drivers ed stress
Drivers license stress
parking Fine stress
speeding Fine stress
Knocked out in the ring during sparring
Rolled ankle playing touch rugby
Broken finger playing cricket
Damaged groins playing cricket
Indigestion
Mild Indigestion
extreme Thirst
Badly cut nail
Badly cut hair
Pimple outbreak
second pimple outbreak from taking cortisone when I had GF
arthiritis (apparently any joint condition is classed as arthiritis)
Once forgot my cell number
Got rejected by a lass once
Got rejecred by a lass twice
She just kept rejecting me (serious heart injury)
Toe stub
chipped tooth

Wow, kingraf you still manage to type out posts with this serious and debilitating injury record, I am stunned you are 606v2's ironman, our own super Rafa. As one his twice your age let me give you a word of advice please avoid boxing I was most worried about you when I heard about your sparring incident. It leads to brain damage, but mild brain damage might make it a little easier to enjoy the posts here on V2.

Can you refrain from spamming my thread Socal? That's not a "How injured are we" thread, it's about real injury records of professional players.

Haha and thats without the debillitating basketball injuries!!! As for boxing, My mother is also not a huge fan of me doing it, but the Knock out happened years ago, and I dont box for anything other than fitness anymore.

kingraf wrote:Haha and thats without the debillitating basketball injuries!!! As for boxing, My mother is also not a huge fan of me doing it, but the Knock out happened years ago, and I dont box for anything other than fitness anymore.

Smart woman Mrs.Kingraf she is. Ps Congratulations on the Miami Heat's second title in a row. Lebron is the GOAT and this coming from a Kobe fan. My top 4 in the basketball GOAT title:

1. Lebron
2. Jordan
3. Magic
4. Kobe

You see even in basketball I refuse to bow before the Yahweh of that sport, Michael Jordan as well.

In regards to Darcis, I will say this that I can't help but feel happy for him. The guy has been as high as the 40s in the rankings he is a good journeyman and these kinds of wins for those players can really make your career. So despite the sadness that Rafa fans might be feeling let us all be happy for Steve Darcis who grinds out a less than glamorous life on the challengers just for one day in the sunshine like yesterday.

Mrs. Kingraf also doesnt like the future Mrs. Kingraf (she just wont let me have fun!)

Thanks SoCal. I tell you, I had my heart in my mouth game 6!!! Watching a defeat at 2 a.m in the morning, with work starting at 5 a.m isnt my idea of fun. Luckily Ray Allen showed why he is the boss.

Hugely grateful to LeBron, and he was a massive help (MVP), but he isnt actually my favourite Heat player, I dont think he makes my top ten favourite players in the league. Big fan of Norris Cole, Wade, and uh... Miller. As for all-league CP3, And Blake Griffin rate high, as does Harden, Westbrook, Stephan Curry, Kobe, D.Rose, Manu G (and not just because he handed us the trophy.)

I'm also quite happy for Darcis, although its a wierd happyness, as he didnt seem to play the match of his life to win (Maybe he did, it just really didnt seem that way). But he is a decent player, and this is a career making victory for a journey man.

As someone on TV pointed out yesterday Darcis is evidently no mug on grass courts. At the Olympics last year he beat Tomas Brdych in the First Round and now he has beaten Rafa. A nice fat cheque coming his way soon.

CaledonianCraig wrote:As someone on TV pointed out yesterday Darcis is evidently no mug on grass courts. At the Olympics last year he beat Tomas Brdych in the First Round and now he has beaten Rafa. A nice fat cheque coming his way soon.

That is true his slice backhand and nice feel at net does make him a tougher player on grass.

His slice backhand is venomous, so much side spin its better than Murrays !

I'd say its good enough to win Wimbly hands down....

(there, thats taken the pressure off Andy)

kingraf wrote:Mrs. Kingraf also doesnt like the future Mrs. Kingraf (she just wont let me have fun!)

Thanks SoCal. I tell you, I had my heart in my mouth game 6!!! Watching a defeat at 2 a.m in the morning, with work starting at 5 a.m isnt my idea of fun. Luckily Ray Allen showed why he is the boss.

Hugely grateful to LeBron, and he was a massive help (MVP), but he isnt actually my favourite Heat player, I dont think he makes my top ten favourite players in the league. Big fan of Norris Cole, Wade, and uh... Miller. As for all-league CP3, And Blake Griffin rate high, as does Harden, Westbrook, Stephan Curry, Kobe, D.Rose, Manu G (and not just because he handed us the trophy.)

I'm also quite happy for Darcis, although its a wierd happyness, as he didnt seem to play the match of his life to win (Maybe he did, it just really didnt seem that way). But he is a decent player, and this is a career making victory for a journey man.  

Kobe is the best, he killed himself to get the Lakers into the playoffs literally blowing his knee on the last minute shot that sent us there. Yeah I like most of the guys you listed. Steph Curry in particular is going to be a dominant player for years to come, so quick and fast. I dislike Birdman and Bosh on the heat, and of course I loathe Ray allen as a former Celtic who deigned to talk junk about Kobe and the lakers, only to watch the lakers comeback and knock their ass out of the finals the following year. The rest of the guys I pretty much like, especially wade.

JuliusHMarx wrote:

socal1976 wrote:Are roger fans really complaining about people complaining about injuries? Wow, as our neighbors to the south would say you guys have some serious juevos, they must dangle down underneath you and scrape the floor as you walk.

Mine do.

Like that bloke on Channel 4 last night?

The Special Juan wrote:

JuliusHMarx wrote:

socal1976 wrote:Are roger fans really complaining about people complaining about injuries? Wow, as our neighbors to the south would say you guys have some serious juevos, they must dangle down underneath you and scrape the floor as you walk.

Mine do.

Like that bloke on Channel 4 last night?

Send me the link I got to see that.

socal1976 wrote:

The Special Juan wrote:

JuliusHMarx wrote:

socal1976 wrote:Are roger fans really complaining about people complaining about injuries? Wow, as our neighbors to the south would say you guys have some serious juevos, they must dangle down underneath you and scrape the floor as you walk.

Mine do.

Like that bloke on Channel 4 last night?

Send me the link I got to see that.

I'll see what I can find. Dunno if you'd get access to 4OD on YouTube in America though. Google "Wesley Warren Jr".

Not sure what to feel about Birdman, but I do hope he re-signs. Bosh reminds of a guy I used to play cricket with. Was horrible the entire season (Okay, Bosh was average), and come finals, somehow made a more important contribution than me!! The scoring system in some sports!!! In a similar manner Bosh by Getting the rebound Ray Allen to Ray Allen, and then blocking Danny Green would have had as vital a role in our seasons success as LeBron... Team Sports I tell ya. Saw a video of Kobe walking without the moon boot. Very encouraging signs, great players deserve to leave on their terms.

Ok I will for sure, I am sure something will come up on youtube or google, do they actually show his elephantine love sacks on TV?

socal1976 wrote:Ok I will for sure, I am sure something will come up on youtube or google, do they actually show his elephantine love sacks on TV?

It was barely off our screen!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2346792/Wesley-Warren-Jr-Man-lived-10-STONE-testicles-years-hopes-love-surgery.html

Ok, that was the freakiest thing I have ever seen in my life, poor guy. Hope the surgery helps him.

kingraf wrote:Not sure what to feel about Birdman, but I do hope he re-signs. Bosh reminds of a guy I used to play cricket with. Was horrible the entire season (Okay, Bosh was average), and come finals, somehow made a more important contribution than me!! The scoring system in some sports!!! In a similar manner Bosh by Getting the rebound Ray Allen to Ray Allen, and then blocking Danny Green would have had as vital a role in our seasons success as LeBron... Team Sports I tell ya. Saw a video of Kobe walking without the moon boot. Very encouraging signs, great players deserve to leave on their terms.

Bosh is overrated he put up big numbers for a cellar dwelling team, I remember when they signed him people were saying Bosh was a top 5 or 6 player in the league. Yeah right, even then I was telling people that it was Big two plus Bosh. Yeah he put up numbers and made all star games in Toronto a team that had no one else. Plus he has a weird personality like he is too hyped up on caffeine or something. Kobe will be back and will be better, if not the lakers will finish last place next year.

For all of Bosh's faults (how on Earth a 6'11 man gets less rebounds than Wade in a final is beyond me) I think he does bring some real positve (plural). Until play-offs he was a very good jump-shooter. And he is an infinitely better free thrower than that other big guy D12. Otherwise, I wouldnt be upset to see him go if we could get a Dwight or Z-Bo (fat chance)

If every one stays at the Lakers, and fitness permitting, I think next season will be a good one. The Spurs are eventually going to have to be to old, Im not convinced Doc Rivers is right for the Clippers, and The Lakers are a good match up vs the Thunder. They may just make Finals

kingraf wrote:For all of Bosh's faults (how on Earth a 6'11 man gets less rebounds than Wade in a final is beyond me) I think he does bring some real positve (plural). Until play-offs he was a very good jump-shooter. And he is an infinitely better free thrower than that other big guy D12. Otherwise, I wouldnt be upset to see him go if we could get a Dwight or Z-Bo (fat chance)

If every one stays at the Lakers, and fitness permitting, I think next season will be a good one. The Spurs are eventually going to have to be to old, Im not convinced Doc Rivers is right for the Clippers, and The Lakers are a good match up vs the Thunder. They may just make Finals

No chance for sure, they should have went out and got a good young point guard instead of putting all their eggs in a nearly 40 year old steve nash who even in his prime was never a defensive player and expecting him to stick with the point guards in the league. The lakers are officially in transition. Although in 2015 they have a huge amount of money coming under the salary cap as all their contracts expire by then. And the lakers are famous for stealing the best players in the league in Free Agency. In two years I can see LBJ or Kevin Durant in laker purple and gold.

Durant to me seems to be a package deal with that Ninja Turtle friend of his Westbrook. It would be suprising if chose to go it alone. LeBron wouldnt leave Miami unless there was a serious change in the state of play, I dont think. But Chris Paul (without even looking at the contract he is going to sign this summer) will probably join the Lakers in 2015.

Jeremy_Kyle wrote:Can you refrain from spamming my thread Socal? That's not a "How injured are we" thread, it's about real injury records of professional players.

Good luck, may be its time you post a request to JHM for locking this thread as it will serve no more purpose .

kingraf wrote:Durant to me seems to be a package deal with that Ninja Turtle friend of his Westbrook. It would be suprising if chose to go it alone. LeBron wouldnt leave Miami unless there was a serious change in the state of play, I dont think. But Chris Paul (without even looking at the contract he is going to sign this summer) will probably join the Lakers in 2015.  

I will settle for CP3 and Durant in 2015, we will steal another great player just like we stole Kareem from the Bucks, Shaq from Orlando, etc. Although it will be a dark time for us laker fans next year with a 40 year old injury proned point guard who I can dribble around.

invisiblecoolers wrote:

Jeremy_Kyle wrote:Can you refrain from spamming my thread Socal? That's not a "How injured are we" thread, it's about real injury records of professional players.

Good luck, may be its time you post a request to JHM for locking this thread as it will serve no more purpose .

This thread has been most illuminating, we found out that Mrs. Kingraf does not approve of his love interest, we discussed a guy with 10 stone testicles, and discussed all happenings in the NBA. There is some tennis talk here and there as well.

ha ha. The guy is a two time MVP (in a relatively barren era, admittedly), I think he still has some chops. Even if he doesnt, Kobe has proven he can more than adequately run the offence.

kingraf wrote:ha ha. The guy is a two time MVP (in a relatively barren era, admittedly), I think he still has some chops. Even if he doesnt, Kobe has proven he can more than adequately run the offence.

Don't get me wrong he is a great player, but even in his prime he was a poor defender, at age 40 with a series of leg injuries his perimeter defense on the pick and roll is just terrible. It isn't the offense I am concerned about it is keeping the opposing point guard from driving to the basket over and over again that worries me.