Why the world should want Haye to win
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Why the world should want Haye to win
First topic message reminder :
1. Having a family ow2nig the greatest prize in sports makes the most prestigious honor in sport look easy and cheap.
2. Haye is exciting....
3. Haye is aesthetic. A trait lost in the division since Lewis bulked up
4. The fact Vitali had to beat Sanders for Vlad kind of say's it all..
5. The Klits are boring fighters hidden away in Germany.
6. When the heavyweight division is exciting it filters down to the other divisions. synergesic.
7. Haye has the charisma and style to captivate Boxing..on both sides of the Atlantic.
8. Boxing needs a figurehead.
I could go on all day but I'll stop at 8.....
So come on David and produce the goods..Time for one of the faceless wonders to be expelled from the scene.
1. Having a family ow2nig the greatest prize in sports makes the most prestigious honor in sport look easy and cheap.
2. Haye is exciting....
3. Haye is aesthetic. A trait lost in the division since Lewis bulked up
4. The fact Vitali had to beat Sanders for Vlad kind of say's it all..
5. The Klits are boring fighters hidden away in Germany.
6. When the heavyweight division is exciting it filters down to the other divisions. synergesic.
7. Haye has the charisma and style to captivate Boxing..on both sides of the Atlantic.
8. Boxing needs a figurehead.
I could go on all day but I'll stop at 8.....
So come on David and produce the goods..Time for one of the faceless wonders to be expelled from the scene.
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40680
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Re: Why the world should want Haye to win
Agree, point 1 is out of context, but at least supported, unlike your argument that it cheapens the weight division that the two best in the world are brothers. Yes, they will not fight each other, but that isn't really surprising. The fact is, they are the best in the world until someone beats them. The heavy weight title is still the crowning glory for any heavy weight boxer and they are the obstacles a fighter must over come to prove they deserve it.
bhb001- Posts : 2675
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Re: Why the world should want Haye to win
By the way, just heard HBO are showing this live....
Wasn't aware they were going to pick this one up, thought it might've been a sister company broadcasting it or something
Wasn't aware they were going to pick this one up, thought it might've been a sister company broadcasting it or something
coxy0001- Posts : 4250
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Re: Why the world should want Haye to win
Yeah Smith said that would be on HBO. I think it's a real global fight, Americans care more about non-American boxers more than most would have you believe. Their boxing fans are not ignorant.
Scottrf- Posts : 14359
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Re: Why the world should want Haye to win
Tend to agree, nationalities go on the backburner for something like this. This is a fight to provide some sort of clarity to the heavyweight division and a win could establish a person with a more than compelling case to be the man at the weight and unify 3 of the belts. Everyone with an interest in the sport can appreciate the value and enormity of that.
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Re: Why the world should want Haye to win
How can you want Haye to win?
1) He inflicted Haye-Harrison on us
2) If he loses to Wlad he will go down as one of the worst heavyweight champs of all time, that's how bad his resume is
Yet Haye is the saviour of the division? Give me a break!
1) He inflicted Haye-Harrison on us
2) If he loses to Wlad he will go down as one of the worst heavyweight champs of all time, that's how bad his resume is
Yet Haye is the saviour of the division? Give me a break!
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Re: Why the world should want Haye to win
Is Haye really an exciting fighter? I mean really. He inflicted arguable the most boring contest this side of Nelson vs De Leon/Warring when he fought Valuev. Harrison fight anyone? Those 2.5 rounds were a pacifists dream. I can imagine the BMA citing this as an example of why they changed their mind on banning boxing.
Ruiz fight? Well a decent(ish) fight.
Haye talks a better fight.
Ruiz fight? Well a decent(ish) fight.
Haye talks a better fight.
azania- Posts : 19471
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Re: Why the world should want Haye to win
wow_j
1) Wlad has inflicted god knows how many dull "jab jab" fights on us
2) If Wlad loses he'll go down as the longest reigning bum in history
What would bring more excitement to the division/sport? A Haye win or Wlad Win?
Think that's part of Truss's point....
Not meaning to bicker too much after the last thread etc, hopefully u can see my point tho
1) Wlad has inflicted god knows how many dull "jab jab" fights on us
2) If Wlad loses he'll go down as the longest reigning bum in history
What would bring more excitement to the division/sport? A Haye win or Wlad Win?
Think that's part of Truss's point....
Not meaning to bicker too much after the last thread etc, hopefully u can see my point tho
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Re: Why the world should want Haye to win
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Haye... exciting heavyweight fights... they don't go hand in hand!
Against the only relatively decent (and I use the term very loosely) in Valuev he put on one of the most boring performances I have ever seen.
Fair enough he blew away Harrison, Ruiz and Barrett, but if Wlad was fighting them he would have done the same, if not better!
Put Haye in the ring with a decent heavy and he will try to bore his way to a victory.
Haye... exciting heavyweight fights... they don't go hand in hand!
Against the only relatively decent (and I use the term very loosely) in Valuev he put on one of the most boring performances I have ever seen.
Fair enough he blew away Harrison, Ruiz and Barrett, but if Wlad was fighting them he would have done the same, if not better!
Put Haye in the ring with a decent heavy and he will try to bore his way to a victory.
wow_junky- Posts : 358
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Re: Why the world should want Haye to win
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Am gonna give him the benefit of the doubt against Valuev as he hurt his hand early
I'd be surprised if he tried to mug Wlad to victory.... Think he might try and find the magic shot etc
Still, it would add a bit of interest to the division if he did run to victory as at least it would break the stranglehold and open up a fight with Vitali etc..
Am gonna give him the benefit of the doubt against Valuev as he hurt his hand early
I'd be surprised if he tried to mug Wlad to victory.... Think he might try and find the magic shot etc
Still, it would add a bit of interest to the division if he did run to victory as at least it would break the stranglehold and open up a fight with Vitali etc..
coxy0001- Posts : 4250
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Re: Why the world should want Haye to win
Yeah, but then we get the problem with him retiring in 6 months and leaving the division is worse than it is now!
I think I'm looking forward to seeing the division shape up of the next 18 months with the genuine younger prospects getting their shots, rather than Haye clowning around and get KTFO !
I think I'm looking forward to seeing the division shape up of the next 18 months with the genuine younger prospects getting their shots, rather than Haye clowning around and get KTFO !
wow_junky- Posts : 358
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Re: Why the world should want Haye to win
i personally think Wlad is better for the sport, he might not be the most mind blowing to watch, but lets give him credit he's recovered very well from his defeats and is a great guy out of the ring, Haye is deluded if he thinks Wlad hasnt fought anybody and he has, i'll personally never take him seriously after fighting Audley Harrison, that is the type of fight that is genuinely killing the sport. I dont like the anger and genuine dislike in every word Haye says about opponents either, i think when you look at Watson, McClelland, etc saying you'll take someone's head off, 'violate' them, is absolutely bang out of order, this guy cares about money, himself and nothing else.
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