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Post by munkian Thu 22 Aug 2013, 9:37 am

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The Scarlets and Wales centre was one of the standout performers during the 2-1 series success over the Wallabies and was given the vote to play alongside countryman Jamie Roberts in Sydney.

Coach Warren Gatland’s selection, which included nine Welshmen in the starting XV, gave rise to some serious criticism from the likes of Lions’ great Willie John McBride and former Ireland and Lions hooker Keith Wood.

The opposition to Gatland’s decision – particularly in relation to O’Driscoll – became further inflamed on Twitter, where a handful of supporters posted threatening messages towards Davies.

Davies said: “There was a lot of stuff on Twitter but I tried not to take too much notice of it. I had some good advice from players like Mike Phillips who just told me to ignore it.

“I was just grateful to have been given the opportunity to win the series. I did get a bit of verbal abuse and people wanting to break my legs and stuff. But I didn’t really care.


“I did feel like public enemy number one and there was a lot of pressure. But I felt like I had performed well under pressure.

“It was a great experience and I enjoyed every minute. Brian congratulated me afterwards and said well done. We were tight as a squad and Brian will be glad to have it on his CV.”

Davies will now turn his attention to helping the Scarlets re-establish themselves as a force in European club rugby.

“I have had six weeks offf and I’ve enjoyed it. I’ve been away on holiday and can’t wait to get back playing.”




Pretty disgusting stuff, rugby becoming more popular is attracting football like behaviour
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Post by rodders Wed 28 Aug 2013, 5:02 pm

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Sorry, no Scots. No BOD. No "blend of four nations". Total betrayal of the Lions. Death threats all round.......
Sorry if it was up to me I'd have selected Gray instead of AWJ but Gatland is my forwards coach..... Wink 
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Post by asoreleftshoulder Wed 28 Aug 2013, 5:11 pm

flyhalffactory wrote:
What is this "I lose my credibility thing"

1. I never stated they were big buddies, it wasn't photographs it was constant dialogue to the press throughout the tour.
2. You stated that Gatland dropped BOD due to the fact that the young Welsh players were intimidated by him..... Cuthbert wasn't going to play in the 3rd test, Davies wouldn't have played in the 3rd test, Halfpenny was player of the tournament so don't tell me he was intimidated and the North-God!!, SHOW ME THE LINK where Gatland states he dropped BOD for that reason.
3. It was the other way around where Davies bawled at the then acting captain BOD that he was nowhere near defending the outside centre position but was at the base of the ruck and Bowe and himself were covering a 3-2 overlap
4. BOD went into the dressing room after the Warratahs game and stated that that was as complete a performance as he had ever seen from a centre in a Lions jersey...... He wasn't prompted by the press he just stated it "How good was that performance boys". So if you are telling me that Davies didn't have a more than a bloody good game (made the first 4 tries and scored the 5th himself) then I know exactly where you are coming from. http://www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/Man-good-Jonathan-Davies/story-19326753-detail/story.html#axzz2dHGaeB3L

Just to give you the benefit of the doubt I googled "Gatland gives reasons for dropping Brian O'Driscoll" and "Gatland states Brian O'Driscoll intimidates" and nothing has come up.




Why do you keep peddling this rubbish,there were 4 Lions defenders to 3 Oz attackers and Davies got caught ball watching.Show us a picture where Bod is at the base of the ruck for that try if you can.Lydiate is the player to the right of the ruck and BoD is several feet outside him organising the defense while Davies was daydreaming and letting the Aussies level the series.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Wed 28 Aug 2013, 5:18 pm

Miley Cyrus twerking brought me here. Jonathan Davies victim of Twitter abuse and threats after displacing Brian O'Driscoll in Lions side for deciding Test - Page 14 3559488474 

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Post by aucklandlaurie Wed 28 Aug 2013, 9:31 pm


WTF was miss Cyrus thinking?

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Wed 28 Aug 2013, 9:40 pm

She wasn't thinking. She has other people think for her. Speaking of which...

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Post by aucklandlaurie Wed 28 Aug 2013, 9:48 pm


I do perfer twerking to twitting though.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Wed 28 Aug 2013, 9:51 pm

I like Muppet.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Wed 28 Aug 2013, 9:52 pm

Laugh Seems like tw@tting is a taboo subject.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Wed 28 Aug 2013, 9:55 pm

Miss Piggy brought me here.

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Post by aucklandlaurie Wed 28 Aug 2013, 10:01 pm

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:Laugh Seems like tw@tting is a taboo subject.

Not if your Irish, and subject is Gatland and Davies.

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Minge

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Wed 28 Aug 2013, 10:06 pm

I guess tw@t can be used as an insult. It's true we don't say you're a minge.

Sorry thinking out loud. It just seemed like this thread was a big Magna Doodle sheet.

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Post by The Great Aukster Wed 28 Aug 2013, 10:49 pm

flyhalffactory wrote:Just to give you the benefit of the doubt I googled "Gatland gives reasons for dropping Brian O'Driscoll" and "Gatland states Brian O'Driscoll intimidates" and nothing has come up.
Excellent point FHF. The Davies twitter abuse wasn't caused by O'Driscoll, nor by Wood nor any other pundit. It was solely caused by Gatland and specifically his inability to explain his decision. In that vacuum all sorts of misguided theories rush in to fill the void and the totally innocent Davies was collateral damage.

Gatland could easily have avoided having one of his players targeted in this disgusting way and damaging the wider Lions support by clearly taking responsibility for the decision when he made it and explaining why. Does he not care about his players or the Lions - has he a different goal in mind or is he just incompetent?

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Post by aucklandlaurie Wed 28 Aug 2013, 10:59 pm


Auckster.

Could I respectfully refer you to pages 1 to 13 of this thread.

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Post by Norfolklass Wed 28 Aug 2013, 11:13 pm

The Great Aukster wrote:
flyhalffactory wrote:Just to give you the benefit of the doubt I googled "Gatland gives reasons for dropping Brian O'Driscoll" and "Gatland states Brian O'Driscoll intimidates" and nothing has come up.
Excellent point FHF. The Davies twitter abuse wasn't caused by O'Driscoll, nor by Wood nor any other pundit. It was solely caused by Gatland and specifically his inability to explain his decision. In that vacuum all sorts of misguided theories rush in to fill the void and the totally innocent Davies was collateral damage.

Gatland could easily have avoided having one of his players targeted in this disgusting way and damaging the wider Lions support by clearly taking responsibility for the decision when he made it and explaining why. Does he not care about his players or the Lions - has he a different goal in mind or is he just incompetent?
Pathetic. If you replace BOD with Harry Styles, then this isn't very far away from some teenager sulking because someone's had a pop at 1Direction.

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Post by Guest Wed 28 Aug 2013, 11:35 pm

Norfolklass wrote:
The Great Aukster wrote:
flyhalffactory wrote:Just to give you the benefit of the doubt I googled "Gatland gives reasons for dropping Brian O'Driscoll" and "Gatland states Brian O'Driscoll intimidates" and nothing has come up.
Excellent point FHF. The Davies twitter abuse wasn't caused by O'Driscoll, nor by Wood nor any other pundit. It was solely caused by Gatland and specifically his inability to explain his decision. In that vacuum all sorts of misguided theories rush in to fill the void and the totally innocent Davies was collateral damage.

Gatland could easily have avoided having one of his players targeted in this disgusting way and damaging the wider Lions support by clearly taking responsibility for the decision when he made it and explaining why. Does he not care about his players or the Lions - has he a different goal in mind or is he just incompetent?
Pathetic. If you replace BOD with Harry Styles, then this isn't very far away from some teenager sulking because someone's had a pop at 1Direction.
Thought the thread was started by someone because a few twitters had a pop at JD?  Can we replace JD with Harry Styles also?

Anyway, Lass. Who is Harry Styles?Erm

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Post by Sin é Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:19 am

Norfolklass wrote:
The Great Aukster wrote:
flyhalffactory wrote:Just to give you the benefit of the doubt I googled "Gatland gives reasons for dropping Brian O'Driscoll" and "Gatland states Brian O'Driscoll intimidates" and nothing has come up.
Excellent point FHF. The Davies twitter abuse wasn't caused by O'Driscoll, nor by Wood nor any other pundit. It was solely caused by Gatland and specifically his inability to explain his decision. In that vacuum all sorts of misguided theories rush in to fill the void and the totally innocent Davies was collateral damage.

Gatland could easily have avoided having one of his players targeted in this disgusting way and damaging the wider Lions support by clearly taking responsibility for the decision when he made it and explaining why. Does he not care about his players or the Lions - has he a different goal in mind or is he just incompetent?
Pathetic. If you replace BOD with Harry Styles, then this isn't very far away from some teenager sulking because someone's had a pop at 1Direction.
Niall Horan would be a better replacement.Wink 

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Post by aucklandlaurie Thu 29 Aug 2013, 3:40 am


Whos that standing next to Niall Horan?

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 29 Aug 2013, 8:26 am

Sin é wrote:Intimidation wasn't the word used by Gatland as far as I can recall - it was more that 'the young players went into their shells in his presence'.

I would interpret that as meaning that they were too afraid to try anything in case he would bawl them out.
If that was the case, that's a serious problem and suggests it was the right thing to drop O'Driscoll. You can't have the rest of the backline treading on eggshells, you want them to have the confidence to play.

Sin é wrote:1/2penny did come out of his shell in the last Test - up to that he kicked his points and made his tackles. He didn't do much in attack.
So once O'Driscoll's out of the side, Halfpenny comes alive. Aren't you supposed to be arguing that BOD shouldn't have been dropped? Headscratch


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Post by GunsGerms Thu 29 Aug 2013, 9:23 am

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Whos that standing next to Niall Horan?
Cant believe you know who Niall Horan is. Good Mullingar lad like meself. Showbiz capital of Ireland.

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Post by GunsGerms Thu 29 Aug 2013, 9:26 am

aucklandlaurie wrote:
WTF was miss Cyrus thinking?
I agree. Jeez she made a show of herself.

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Post by Sin é Thu 29 Aug 2013, 9:51 am

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:
Sin é wrote:Intimidation wasn't the word used by Gatland as far as I can recall - it was more that 'the young players went into their shells in his presence'.

I would interpret that as meaning that they were too afraid to try anything in case he would bawl them out.
If that was the case, that's a serious problem and suggests it was the right thing to drop O'Driscoll. You can't have the rest of the backline treading on eggshells, you want them to have the confidence to play.

Sin é wrote:1/2penny did come out of his shell in the last Test - up to that he kicked his points and made his tackles. He didn't do much in attack.
So once O'Driscoll's out of the side, Halfpenny comes alive. Aren't you supposed to be arguing that BOD shouldn't have been dropped? Headscratch
Yea, we know that Gatland's plan was to use the Lions to try and build up the confidence of his Wales team so that eventually they might get around to beating a SH team on their own. Wink
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and you will be first in line to congratulate wales on such a win, too be sure, to be sure:kiss: 

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Post by Sin é Thu 29 Aug 2013, 12:56 pm

gavstar wrote:and you will be first in line to congratulate wales on such a win, too be sure, to be sure:kiss: 
Sure will - it will be a great relief to us all when it finally happens.
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Post by The Saint Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:17 pm

It will truly be a great relief for us Sin. Why you? Don't tell me you're going to start hanging on to our tails next...

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Post by Sin é Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:21 pm

The Saint wrote:It will truly be a great relief for us Sin. Why you? Don't tell me you're going to start hanging on to our tails next...
Hanging onto other's coat tails seems to be a Welsh trait going on what your next door neighbours have to say about you. Smile 
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Post by The Saint Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:25 pm

Well how come it's the ones that keep losing to Wales hanging on to SH coat tails? Don't worry Sin we'll win next years 6 Nations (again) for Ireland as well as ourselves Wink. #celticarmy

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The Saint wrote:Well how come it's the ones that keep losing to Wales hanging on to SH coat tails? Don't worry Sin we'll win next years 6 Nations (again) for Ireland as well as ourselves Wink. #celticarmy
Well you won't be winning any Heineken Cups in the near future anyway. The whole of Wales will have to decamp to France to do that.

As a matter of interest, are there any Welsh players who have won a Heineken Cup anywhere?



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I wonder why it's only Ireland fans who seem to big up the club game over the international game. Couldn't be anything to do with one decent piece of silverware every solar eclipse could it? Whistle 

As far as I know there have been Welsh players playing for Wasps, Toulouse and Toulon when they won the Heineken Cup.

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Sin é wrote:
As a matter of interest, are there any Welsh players who have won a Heineken Cup anywhere?
You can argue that it makes Gatland's success with Wales all the more impressive, given that it's come against the back-drop of regional chaos.

Would you agree?

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Sin é wrote:
As a matter of interest, are there any Welsh players who have won a Heineken Cup anywhere?
Rhys Ruddock?
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Post by Guest Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:35 pm

Sin é wrote:
Norfolklass wrote:
The Great Aukster wrote:
flyhalffactory wrote:Just to give you the benefit of the doubt I googled "Gatland gives reasons for dropping Brian O'Driscoll" and "Gatland states Brian O'Driscoll intimidates" and nothing has come up.
Excellent point FHF. The Davies twitter abuse wasn't caused by O'Driscoll, nor by Wood nor any other pundit. It was solely caused by Gatland and specifically his inability to explain his decision. In that vacuum all sorts of misguided theories rush in to fill the void and the totally innocent Davies was collateral damage.

Gatland could easily have avoided having one of his players targeted in this disgusting way and damaging the wider Lions support by clearly taking responsibility for the decision when he made it and explaining why. Does he not care about his players or the Lions - has he a different goal in mind or is he just incompetent?
Pathetic. If you replace BOD with Harry Styles, then this isn't very far away from some teenager sulking because someone's had a pop at 1Direction.
Niall Horan would be a better replacement.Wink 

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Post by Sin é Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:42 pm

rodders wrote:
Sin é wrote:
As a matter of interest, are there any Welsh players who have won a Heineken Cup anywhere?
Rhys Ruddock?
Amlin maybe - hopefully the fact that he was born in Dublin wouldn't get in the way of the Welsh claiming him Very Happy 
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Post by GunsGerms Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:43 pm

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As a matter of interest, are there any Welsh players who have won a Heineken Cup anywhere?
Rhys Ruddock?
Gareth Thomas? Toulouse '05.


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Post by The Saint Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:44 pm

Sin é wrote:
rodders wrote:
Sin é wrote:
As a matter of interest, are there any Welsh players who have won a Heineken Cup anywhere?
Rhys Ruddock?
Amlin maybe - hopefully the fact that he was born in Dublin wouldn't get in the way of the Welsh claiming him  Very Happy 
We won't but the Ospreys academy might. Weren't good enough to be play for a world class team like Wales anyway. So he chose to become the Jared Payne's and Mike Ross' of this world....

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Post by GunsGerms Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:47 pm

What are you on about Saint. Mike Ross is Irish. Jarod Payne has never played for Ireland whereas Ruddock has. Ruddock was also born in Ireland and has an Irish mum. Payne has no connections (that I know of anyway)

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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:47 pm

Sin é wrote:
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Sin é wrote:
As a matter of interest, are there any Welsh players who have won a Heineken Cup anywhere?
Rhys Ruddock?
Amlin maybe - hopefully the fact that he was born in Dublin wouldn't get in the way of the Welsh claiming him Very Happy 
In the interest of taking this thread somewhere positive. There have been 9

Alfie was one. Gethin a few months ago was the 9th. there is one other obvious one. but after that. I would be surprised if anyone will get many more without googling it.

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Post by The Saint Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:49 pm

Rob Howley is the other one you speak of? Lee Byrne came close Laugh. I honestly can't think of any more.

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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:49 pm

And Ruddock doesn't count. He is Irish.

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Post by GunsGerms Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:51 pm

Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
Sin é wrote:
rodders wrote:
Sin é wrote:
As a matter of interest, are there any Welsh players who have won a Heineken Cup anywhere?
Rhys Ruddock?
Amlin maybe - hopefully the fact that he was born in Dublin wouldn't get in the way of the Welsh claiming him  Very Happy 
In the interest of taking this thread somewhere positive. There have been 9

Alfie was one. Gethin a few months ago was the 9th. there is one other obvious one. but after that. I would be surprised if anyone will get many more without googling it.
I bet there was one for Leicester around '01?

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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:51 pm

The Saint wrote:Rob Howley is the other one you speak of? Lee Byrne came close Laugh. I honestly can't think of any more.
yep Howley the obvious one. having scored the crucial try.

Byrne would have been the 9th instead of Gethin had the game gone the other way.

you have to go back a while for the rest.

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Post by GunsGerms Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:52 pm

The Saint wrote:Rob Howley is the other one you speak of? Lee Byrne came close Laugh. I honestly can't think of any more.
Good shout. Probably one of the most memorable winning tries for Wasps against Toulouse.

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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:54 pm

None for Leicester.

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Post by rodders Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:56 pm

Hang on a darn minute didn't Cardiff win the heino in 97?
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Post by rodders Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:56 pm

Bateman for Saints?
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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:57 pm

we had this quiz on Leinsterfans and the only other one I got is now a sky pundit.

After that, it gets really hard.

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Post by The Saint Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:57 pm

No, Toulouse or Brive did, and there was no involvement from Scottish or French teams (I could be wrong though).

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Post by The Saint Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:57 pm

And did Shaun Payne get it with Munster or was he too late?

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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Thu 29 Aug 2013, 1:58 pm

rodders wrote:Bateman for Saints?
he shoots. he scores.

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