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Post by Cogen Tue 27 Aug 2013, 2:18 pm

Live
Rank
Orig
Rank
Player
Orig
Points
Drop
Points
Gain
Points
Live
Points
Live
Movement
Current Status
Next Opponent
1
1
N. Djokovic [SRB]
10980
1200
360
10140
Active - QFYouzhny
2
2
R. Nadal [ESP]
8860
0
720
9580
Active - SFGaquet
3
3
A. Murray [GBR]
8700
2000
360
7060
Eliminated - QF
4
4
D. Ferrer [ESP]
7210
720
360
6850
Eliminated - QF
5
5
T. Berdych [CZE]
5075
720
180
4535
Eliminated - R16
6
7
R. Federer [SUI]
4695
360
180
4515
Up 1
Eliminated - R16
7
6
J. Del Potro [ARG]
4740
360
45
4425
Down 1
Eliminated - R64
8
8
J. Tsonga [FRA]
3470
45
0
3425
Did Not Play
9
9
R. Gasquet [FRA]
2625
180
720
3165
Active - SFNadal
10
10
S. Wawrinka [SUI]
2610
180
720
3150
Active - SFDjokovic or Youzhny
11
11
M. Raonic [CAN]
2555
180
180
2555
Eliminated - R16
12
12
K. Nishikori [JPN]
2405
90
10
2325
Eliminated - R128
13
13
T. Haas [GER]
2185
10
90
2265
Eliminated - R32
14
14
J. Janowicz [POL]
2110
10
10
2110
Eliminated - R128
15
17
J. Isner [USA]
2025
90
90
2025
Up 2
Eliminated - R32
16
16
G. Simon [FRA]
2040
90
0
1950
Did Not Play
17
18
F. Fognini [ITA]
2025
90
10
1945
Up 1
Eliminated - R128
18
15
N. Almagro [ESP]
2110
180
10
1940
Down 3
Eliminated - R128
19
22
T. Robredo [ESP]
1620
45
360
1935
Up 3
Eliminated - QF
20
24
M. Youzhny [RUS]
1475
10
360
1825
Up 4
Active - QFDjokovic
Selected Others:
21
20
K. Anderson [RSA]
1740
10
45
1775
Down 1
Eliminated - R64
23
21
J. Tipsarevic [SRB]
1685
360
180
1505
Down 2
Eliminated - R16
24
19
M. Cilic [CRO]
1805
360
0
1445
Down 5
Did Not Play
25
25
P. Kohlschreiber [GER]
1445
180
180
1445
Eliminated - R16
38
43
M. Granollers [ESP]
975
45
180
1110
Up 5
Eliminated - R16
48
65
D. Istomin [UZB]
750
10
180
920
Up 17
Eliminated - R16
59
66
L. Hewitt [AUS]
730
90
180
820
Up 7
Eliminated - R16

Summary:

  • Nadal has a shot at claiming the no.1 spot at the US Open and ending Djokovic's long reign atop the rankings. As a minimum Nadal must reach the final. If Djokovic reaches the QF then Rafa must win the title. If Djokovic reaches the final then he will end Nadal's chances, for the time being.
  • Wawrinka and Gasquet have done a great job to reach the SF, but will still gain no places as things stand. Reaching the final would move them above Tsonga, and winning the title would squeeze either of them just above Del Potro.


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Post by Cogen Tue 27 Aug 2013, 2:19 pm

Points Spy up Smile

Are we going to see a Rafa back at no.1 at the end of the fortnight? ... Based on current form I'm not sure I would bet against him...

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Post by JuliusHMarx Tue 27 Aug 2013, 2:20 pm

Thanks Cogen.

Federer chasing that coveted Number 5 spot Smile

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Post by Cogen Sat 31 Aug 2013, 11:13 am

First big casualty of the tournament then, Del Potro out to Hewitt! ... DP tied on points with Federer, but Roger ranks ahead by virtue of earning more points in slams and Masters events.

Every time I think Hewitt must be getting ready to retire soon he goes and pulls out a big result! ... Maybe he's just trying to hang on until Federer leaves so they can have a joint retirement party... Whistle

Changing the subject, we're down the the last 32, and 28 of them are in the top 100 which I monitor. Still 4 players remaining who are ranked outside T100. Those 4 are:

Evgeny Donskoy [RUS] (102)
Tim Smyczek [USA] (109)
Mikhail Kukushin [KAZ] (172)
Dan Evans [GBR] (179)

... making Dan Evans the lowest ranked player left in the tournament! What a month he's having. His points total stands at 269... 120 of those are from two 60pt Challenger finals this month. And now he's going to pick up at least another 70pts from the USO (25 for qualifying, 45 for R32). Still quite a long way from the ~550pts he needs to break the top 100, but another win over Robredo and he'll be well on his way.

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Post by Cogen Mon 02 Sep 2013, 1:41 am

Tumbleweed

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Post by The Special Juan Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:58 am

Go to bed Laugh
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Post by Cogen Mon 02 Sep 2013, 12:59 pm

1:41am was far too early for me to go to bed. I usually hit the sack about 3am! Wink The joys of working at home...

Anyways... down to the last 16 so I've added all remaining players onto the table. Here is their maximum ranking for reaching the remaining rounds. (Not guaranteed. Assumes rivals lose in current round)

Name
Started At
>
Currently
>
Reach QF
Reach SF
Reach Final
Win Title
Djokovic
1
1
1
1
1
1
Nadal
2
2
2
2
1
1
Murray
3
3
3
3
3
3
Ferrer
4
4
4
3
3
3
Berdych
5
5
5
5
5
5
Federer
7
6
5
5
5
5
Gasquet
9
9
9
9
8
7
Wawrinka
10
10
9
9
8
7
Raonic
11
11
9
9
8
8
Robredo
22
20
19
13
9
8
Youzhny
24
21
19
14
9
8
Tipsarevic
21
23
21
15
12
9
Kohlschreiber
25
25
23
16
12
9
Granollers
43
38
30
21
14
9
Istomin
65
48
39
24
18
9
Hewitt
66
59
44
30
19
9

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Post by The Special Juan Mon 02 Sep 2013, 1:48 pm

So does that mean if Ferru reaches the semis, he's number 3 regardless of what Murray does?
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Post by CaledonianCraig Mon 02 Sep 2013, 1:52 pm

I think Murray remains No.3 if he also reaches the semis. In short Ferrer must go one stage further than Murray to become No.3.
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Post by The Special Juan Mon 02 Sep 2013, 2:00 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:I think Murray remains No.3 if he also reaches the semis. In short Ferrer must go one stage further than Murray to become No.3.
Cool, cheers OK
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Post by dummy_half Mon 02 Sep 2013, 2:05 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:I think Murray remains No.3 if he also reaches the semis. In short Ferrer must go one stage further than Murray to become No.3.
The 'live' table in the lead post is probably more informative - as it stands Andy has just over 200 points more that Daveed at the same point in the tournament.

Hypothetically, if Andy loses this round and Ferrer in the last 8, Andy keeps #3 by a few points, but from the next round will have to at least match Ferrer's performance to stay ahead in the rankings. You'd normally expect him to manage that at the USO, but the prospective QF against Berdych does worry me a bit.

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Post by banbrotam Mon 02 Sep 2013, 11:20 pm

Interesting that Andy could hold a Slam and be at No.4!!!! Shows what a poor clay court season a missed slam and poorish Masters results can do Wink 

Mind you David having a battle with Tipsy

Interesting to see that despite Del Po's early exit - he's a cert for the O2 and there appears to be only one place up for grabs and it's unlikely there will be any new names

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Post by LuvSports! Tue 03 Sep 2013, 12:02 am

Strong showings from gasquet, stan or raonic could knock tsonga off that 8th spot.

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Post by Cogen Tue 03 Sep 2013, 12:23 am

LuvSports! wrote:Strong showings from gasquet, stan or raonic could knock tsonga off that 8th spot.
Would require one of them to reach the final...

Not impossible, but are we really expecting anyone other than Nadal in one half, and one of Djokovic or Murray in the other?

I could see Berdych upsetting Murray. His game always seems to cause Murray some problems. But if he does that, I can't see him getting past Djokovic. If Murray and Djokovic do meet, I'd probably give Murray the slight mental edge taking into account last years USO, and the recent Wimby.

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Post by LuvSports! Tue 03 Sep 2013, 1:05 am

I meant to get into the wtf's cogen. Sorry was responding to banbro's post.

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Post by Cogen Tue 03 Sep 2013, 1:18 am

Ahhhh, gotcha OK 

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Post by hawkeye Sat 14 Sep 2013, 8:45 pm

I have a question. Just checked on the ATP site and Nadal's 150 points for getting to the final of Vina del Mar are non countable. Why is this? It's not like he's played too many tournaments. In fact he only has one other 250 tournament listed. If the 150 points were included he would be number 1 in the rankings.

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Post by JuliusHMarx Sat 14 Sep 2013, 8:49 pm

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/Rankings-FAQ.aspx

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Post by hawkeye Sat 14 Sep 2013, 9:00 pm

^ still not sure. Do you know maybe you could explain. It can't be because he was given a zero pointer for not playing a 500 event after the US Open last year can it?

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Post by Born Slippy Sat 14 Sep 2013, 9:09 pm

Spot on. Counting the zero pointers he already has the maximum of 6 500 or lower results included (Monte Carlo counts as a 500).

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Post by JuliusHMarx Sat 14 Sep 2013, 9:36 pm

Thanks Born, I wasn't sure either.

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