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Post by Bathman_in_London Mon 23 Sep 2013, 2:16 pm

https://twitter.com/Official_RFU

Clearly the purple faze has past, to be replaced by another rubbish effort. Still, it will only be worn once against Argentina (I presume) and then we can forget about it.

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Post by Scrumpy Mon 23 Sep 2013, 2:22 pm

Not too bad.
 
I still like the black one.

http://www.rfu.com/news/2013/september/news-articles/230913_canterbury_kit

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Mon 23 Sep 2013, 2:32 pm

Apart from Fiji I really don't see why England would need a change shirt. Argentina is sufficiently different to warrant both teams wearing their traditional strip. Any changes to other shirts that require a change should be sanctioned. NZ similarly only should clash with Scotland.

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Post by Chjw131 Mon 23 Sep 2013, 3:06 pm

Looks like it's been produced in the Campino factory. Awful.

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Post by LondonTiger Mon 23 Sep 2013, 3:15 pm

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:Apart from Fiji I really don't see why England would need a change shirt. Argentina is sufficiently different to warrant both teams wearing their traditional strip. Any changes to other shirts that require a change should be sanctioned. NZ similarly only should clash with Scotland.
Shirt sales, pure and simple.

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Post by LondonTiger Mon 23 Sep 2013, 3:17 pm

Oh good god. Only just looked at it. It is horrid.

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Post by Geordie Mon 23 Sep 2013, 3:21 pm

Thats pretty bad...

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Mon 23 Sep 2013, 3:26 pm

LT if they're interested in shirt sales then why did they come up with that steaming pile of... Halloween is not that big outside the us. I can see the point in changing the style a little. Just not in changing it to a monstrosity that nobody would be caught dead wearing.

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Post by LondonTiger Mon 23 Sep 2013, 4:46 pm

The first problem is that the home kit is dull. White is, well white.

So they come up with a new change kit (and sometimes a second change kit) every year. Now personally I reckon someone in Canterbury's design team thought, "goddam those Poms. they buy anything - so lets really make them look stupid."

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Mon 23 Sep 2013, 4:54 pm

Grey is dull. Teale grey being even worse than brown. I find white striking. The shirts that are ugliest in my mind try to get busy with their colours like the Wallabies shirt a decade ago which had the visual appeal of a used airline sick bag. The problem is not one of dullness. Generally it's the opposite: garish, bright colours which seem more appropriate on a 1980s ski field. This away shirt though does fit into ill fitting homeknit mittens as a Christmas present. You want to get angry but you're too busy turfing them into the never to be worn part of the closet.

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Post by Geordie Mon 23 Sep 2013, 4:54 pm

Is that Geoff Parling...he looks like the man on a Gondola...."just one corneto...."

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Post by Guest Mon 23 Sep 2013, 5:38 pm

Do you mean the red and white hooped top on the link? I actually really like that, for an England kit.

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Post by GloriousEmpire Mon 23 Sep 2013, 5:58 pm

The black and white hoops could be appropriate Whistle

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Post by No 7&1/2 Mon 23 Sep 2013, 6:21 pm

Not thinking of buying another England top already GE? Just dig your old one out.

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Post by Looseheaded Tue 24 Sep 2013, 2:33 am

i actually really like it, i love deep purple and block white combined. too many stripes for my liking by the logo positioning is very appealing and yeah stop being such grumpy old men

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Post by Guest Tue 24 Sep 2013, 3:09 am

Not too bad actually. Was expecting something really ghastly like the 7s strip. So, where's Wally?

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Post by Bathman_in_London Tue 24 Sep 2013, 9:43 am

It looks like some victorian bathing costume. At least the plain black one made sense as the opposite of the white one.

Now if they wanted to go for a old style they could just produce the plain one that was worn for the Wales game a few years ago, now that was a popular shirt.

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Post by BamBam Tue 24 Sep 2013, 9:48 am

As someone tweeted Brian Moore, it does actually look like a Jean Paul Gautier aftershave bottle

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Post by munkian Tue 24 Sep 2013, 9:51 am

Wheres Wally ?
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Post by flankertye Tue 24 Sep 2013, 12:38 pm

Really not a fan of this one.

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Post by jimmyinthewell68 Tue 24 Sep 2013, 12:56 pm

would you English posters buy this and be seen in public Shocked 

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Post by TrailApe Tue 24 Sep 2013, 2:21 pm

I would not wear one out and about in Newcastle - but if I was anywhere else I would wear it.
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Post by yappysnap Wed 25 Sep 2013, 7:57 am

Really not a fan, as mentioned its far too busy and when have Eng been known for hooped shirts? Pile of crap. Bring back the Ivory coloured anniversary shirt!!!

On a side note I scrolled along the pics and found the new England 7's kit as well, wow. Just wow. Some of those shirt designers having been hitting the complimentary acid again...

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Wed 25 Sep 2013, 8:09 am

Jamie Haskell would look good in that away shirt
. Google images could use him as a definition of c@ck-a-hoop.

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Post by jimmyinthewell68 Wed 25 Sep 2013, 9:11 am

dont they know hoops make you look fat . good job matt Stevens retired Wink 

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Post by thomh Wed 25 Sep 2013, 10:53 am

I think it's alright, and in any case it will only ever get worn for one game (probably Argentina). There's no pressure on fans to keep up to date with an ever changing change strip, so if the rfu can make a bit of extra money off people willing to buy them then fine. If they started drastically changing the home strip every season it would be a problem.

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Post by Scrumpy Wed 25 Sep 2013, 11:12 am

I really like the socks
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Post by nathan Wed 25 Sep 2013, 11:38 am

i still really like the centurion shirt they did, think they should have that as the main shirt.

unhappy i missed the sale of them though!

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Post by yappysnap Wed 25 Sep 2013, 12:05 pm

nathan wrote:i still really like the centurion shirt they did, think they should have that as the main shirt.

unhappy i missed the sale of them though!
That would be because about 10 people seemed to buy all of them and then resell them on eBay for horrendous (£200+) amounts!

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Post by Scrumpy Wed 25 Sep 2013, 12:14 pm

jimmyinthewell68 wrote:would you English posters buy this and be seen in public Shocked 
Yes, whats wrong with it?

can't be any worse than this one.


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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Wed 25 Sep 2013, 12:43 pm

Is this a shirt to represent that Australia is a banana skin of Wales? Daffodils are yellow I suppose but that's as horrendous as pink gumboots.

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Post by thomh Wed 25 Sep 2013, 12:45 pm

nathan wrote:i still really like the centurion shirt they did, think they should have that as the main shirt.

unhappy i missed the sale of them though!
Not sure how happy O2 would be with that.

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Post by nathan Wed 25 Sep 2013, 12:58 pm

thomh wrote:
nathan wrote:i still really like the centurion shirt they did, think they should have that as the main shirt.

unhappy i missed the sale of them though!
Not sure how happy O2 would be with that.
thought they were just the sponsor?

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Post by thomh Wed 25 Sep 2013, 3:31 pm

nathan wrote:
thomh wrote:
nathan wrote:i still really like the centurion shirt they did, think they should have that as the main shirt.

unhappy i missed the sale of them though!
Not sure how happy O2 would be with that.
thought they were just the sponsor?
Yes and, having spent millions on shirt sponsorship, I don't think they would be happy if their logo didn't appear on the shirt.

http://www.rfu.com/~/media/Images/2009/News%20Images%203/News_trad_shirt_466.ashx

Unless you were talking about a different shirt of course.

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Post by Hood83 Wed 25 Sep 2013, 5:01 pm

Truly vile. We continue to push the envelope on ridiculous, comedy shirt designs.

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Post by Metal Tiger Tue 01 Oct 2013, 4:04 pm

GloriousEmpire wrote:The black and white hoops could be appropriate Whistle
Give it a minute....

Beshocked will be on here shortly to suggest black and red hoops Whistle 
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Post by Metal Tiger Tue 01 Oct 2013, 4:07 pm

I like that the change shirt is red to compliment the home shirt being white (as in the two colours of England being red & white) but the design does take some getting used to. Maybe it will grow on me.
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Post by doctor_grey Wed 02 Oct 2013, 5:49 am

Looseheaded wrote:i actually really like it, i love deep purple and block white combined. too many stripes for my liking by the logo positioning is very appealing and yeah stop being such grumpy old men
Mate, I have spent a lifetime developing and refining my grumpy old man-ness.  It takes time, effort, countless hours of study, and many years of marriage to truly cultivate such a personality, and do it in a way which make it one's own.  And now you tell me to knock it off.  Frankly, I can't.  

I don't remember when, or if, I actually bought an England change shirt.  I think I bought the navy blue one from about 10 years ago for my boys when they were young.  In this case, I don't care for the change shirt so much, and like most of the others, I won't buy one.  But I will defend your right to purchase one and wear it if you wish.  It is a lifestyle choice, and I really don't judge the lifestyle choices of others.

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Post by beshocked Wed 02 Oct 2013, 8:44 am

Metal Tiger wrote:
GloriousEmpire wrote:The black and white hoops could be appropriate Whistle
Give it a minute....

Beshocked will be on here shortly to suggest black and red hoops Whistle 
Black and red for England? No. I hated the black shirt for England. Most of these change shirts are ridiculous.

At least this new one is closer to home in terms of colours. I might get this.

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Post by yappysnap Wed 02 Oct 2013, 10:00 am

doctor_grey wrote:
Looseheaded wrote:i actually really like it, i love deep purple and block white combined. too many stripes for my liking by the logo positioning is very appealing and yeah stop being such grumpy old men
Mate, I have spent a lifetime developing and refining my grumpy old man-ness.  It takes time, effort, countless hours of study, and many years of marriage to truly cultivate such a personality, and do it in a way which make it one's own.  And now you tell me to knock it off.  Frankly, I can't.  

I don't remember when, or if, I actually bought an England change shirt.  I think I bought the navy blue one from about 10 years ago for my boys when they were young.  In this case, I don't care for the change shirt so much, and like most of the others, I won't buy one.  But I will defend your right to purchase one and wear it if you wish.  It is a lifestyle choice, and I really don't judge the lifestyle choices of others.
Just out of curiosity Dr, and you might be totally ignorant of this, but what's the USA shirt like? And would you get yourself one?

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Post by Looseheaded Wed 02 Oct 2013, 3:43 pm

doctor_grey wrote:
Looseheaded wrote:i actually really like it, i love deep purple and block white combined. too many stripes for my liking by the logo positioning is very appealing and yeah stop being such grumpy old men
Mate, I have spent a lifetime developing and refining my grumpy old man-ness.  It takes time, effort, countless hours of study, and many years of marriage to truly cultivate such a personality, and do it in a way which make it one's own.  And now you tell me to knock it off.  Frankly, I can't.  
No disrespect intended Doc, I'm sure that you are the pinnacle of grumpyoldmanness and truly aspire to one day achieve the same heights

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Post by doctor_grey Wed 02 Oct 2013, 6:49 pm

yappysnap wrote:Just out of curiosity Dr, and you might be totally ignorant of this, but what's the USA shirt like? And would you get yourself one?
I have seen the USA Rugby jerseys over the past few seasons. In general not too bad. The newer ones are a bit too busy for my taste, but what can you expect from an England supporter who likes simple white.
http://www.shopusarugby.com/departments-usa-rugby-jerseys.html
I am not a big jersey collector. My last England jersey and my last Saints jersey are old. They still fit and are surviving, but I might need to upgrade the Saints one soon. I usually order the charity jerseys if they look OK. but that is more because I like a good cause.

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Post by butterfingers Thu 03 Oct 2013, 11:33 am

I don't know about you guys, but as a Glos fan I quite like it Wink 

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Post by Guest Thu 03 Oct 2013, 1:42 pm

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:Is this a shirt to represent that Australia is a banana skin of Wales? Daffodils are yellow I suppose but that's as horrendous as pink gumboots.
Paired with the black shorts, it represents the flag of St. David, the patron Saint of Wales. More contentiously to the Kiwis was the black shirt Wales wore in '05 for the 125th anniversary. I'm not too sure about the thinking behind that, perhaps something to do with Neath (wore black before the All Blacks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neath_RFC), but at least the yellow kit, though it could have been designed better, has a clear link to national identity. I struggle to see the positive connotations of a purple and gold, aside from being rich colours and evoking an Empirical past England would surely not want to refer to. Or the black kit for that matter. Or a hooped red kit, or the "tackler confusing stripe" England had in the mid 2000's.

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Post by Scrumpy Thu 03 Oct 2013, 1:47 pm

The purple was a throwback to the Eng tracksuits used in the 80's I believe.

Having seen one the new 2nd kit in the flesh it isn't that bad, would I buy one?

Maybe if the price is right.
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Post by munkian Thu 03 Oct 2013, 2:14 pm

Baarf fan wearing Glos colours shocker
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Post by Scrumpy Thu 03 Oct 2013, 2:23 pm

munkian wrote:Baarf fan wearing Glos colours shocker
Why not?

Most of are players do at some point in their careers!

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Post by munkian Thu 03 Oct 2013, 2:24 pm

I spose there are plenty of LI players wearing Baarf colours
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Post by Scrumpy Thu 03 Oct 2013, 2:27 pm

munkian wrote:I spose there are plenty of LI players wearing Baarf colours
 
But don't they look nice in them.Wink 
 
Yarde would WILL look good too.Whistle
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