Munster V Leinster [Sat 5 oct 18:45]

Head to head
Munster v  Leinster
36  Played 36
17  Wins 17
17  Losses 17
2   Draws 2
51  Tries 47
35  Conversions 34
100  Penalties 98
6   Drop Goals 4
673  Points 622
25   Avg. Age 26


The match is on RTE

Where are you getting head to head figures? Are these pro 12 league figures or does it include Hcup fixtures?

GunsGerms wrote:Where are you getting head to head figures? Are these pro 12 league figures or does it include Hcup fixtures?

It's straight off the Rabo website.

Looking forward to heading down to Turnipland for this one. Always a good place to pick up a win...

Yup off the rabo site. They're celtic/magners/rabo league stats.


Probable Munster team

15 Hurley
14 Earls
13 Lualala
12 Downey
11 Zebo
10 Keatley
9 Sheridan

8 Coughlan
7 Dougal
6 POM
5 POC
4 DOC
3 Archer
2 Sherry
1 Kilcoyne

Thats just my guess. It could be very different with Cronin, Hanrahan, Johne Murphy, Dineen John Ryan all impressing of late.

Pretty cool that the head to head is so even. Good for Irish rugby.

Some bad news lads. Monsieur Poite is the referee!

profitius wrote:Some bad news lads. Monsieur Poite is the referee!

One of the worst around, policeman in his non rugby life and it shows, this guy has no empathy for the game whatsoever.

Is Ryan the lad who played tight head at the weekend? He had a great game at scrum time.

Submachine wrote:Is Ryan the lad who played tight head at the weekend? He had a great game at scrum time.

Yeah, the blond haired fella. He has started the season well and will put Archer under pressure.

I guess this will be the 1st game where we see the who is genuinely first choice for both teams. Should be very interesting.

Possible leinster team:

1. Healy
2. Struass
3. Ross (I think Moore is playing better and will be number 1 by the end of the season)
4. McCarthy
5. Toner
6. Ruddock
7. Ryan
8. Heaslip
9. Boss
10. Madigan (almost 50/50 Gopperth)
11. D Kearney
12. D'Arcy
13. BOD
14. McFadden
15. R Kearney

Looks close enough. Definitely Mads. Likely Sob at 7, Murphy on the bench and Ryan nowhere.

Possibly Tuqiri on the bench or maybe even ahead of Dave K.

Who do Munster fans see as their best 10 right now. Both JJ and Keatley have been playing well. JJ is a great goal kicker and does other things well and Keatey really has the backs firing IMO and is more exciting to watch. Thoughts?

How's Tuquiri fitting in Jen?

Kirchener looked good for the Boks at the weekend so may be a good signing after all for Leinster.

rodders wrote:How's Tuquiri fitting in Jen?

Kirchener looked good for the Boks at the weekend so may be a good signing after all for Leinster.

After all what? After all the numptys on the internet said he was muck? He'll shine in Leinster wait till you see.

Tuqiri has played less than 30 minutes before his hammer went. Appears that it's not too serious. He looked hungry enough in attack, but was in a team that was absolutely sh1te in defence. Hard to single him out on it.

How did he look? Didn't have much opportunity to look any way at all. Slim chance that he may play a part v the Munsters. Hard to know.

JJ Hanrahan doesn't look ready for HC duty IMHO. Massive potential, and barring injury he should pass Keatley soon enough. Never got the gametime last season to kick on though.

Munster are a bit of an enigma so far. They have looked decent at times but they have not played a top 6 team yet. This is a derby game so all bets are off. They always raise their game for me and my fellow Ladyboys. We will know more about where both teams are on Saturday.

Is SOB fit? I was under the impression that he was still injured.

That will be a massive boost.

Yes. He will defo play. I'd say he will start at 7 but there is a possibility he will bench.

Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:

rodders wrote:How's Tuquiri fitting in Jen?

Kirchener looked good for the Boks at the weekend so may be a good signing after all for Leinster.

After all what? After all the numptys on the internet said he was muck? He'll shine in Leinster wait till you see.

Yeah exactly...he may be a good signing after all the numpties on the internet said he was muck.

Whats the crack with Fitzgerald? He seems to be eternally a week away from been fit

They are saying Fitz has a chance of being involved too. Apparently he and Darcy trained separately yesterday and Lote took part in a non-contact game of rugby.

Managed to catch some footage of the Blues game.... Drico looks in decent nick, albeit against weakish opposition..... come on guys spill the beans, will he go to the RWC?

One more year, one more year!

His missus would kill him. She may be "not all that scary" to you, but while the likes of Paul O'Connell may be scary to the rest of us..........

Paul O'Connell can't refuse to have sex with him....... Maybe I phrased that wrong.

It would probably be a relief rather than a burden then.

Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
Paul O'Connell can't refuse to have sex with him....... Maybe I phrased that wrong.

I think you're getting confused with Zebo and Murray..... 

Training photo bibs suggest the following pack for Munster against Leinster.

Killer, Sherry, Archer (bench cronin, Varley, BJ).
Ryan & POC (DOC on the bench)
POM, Ronan, Coughlan (Stander on bench)
Keatley, Williams (Murray on bench)

Not many training photos of backs - Downey, Felix & Conway & Dineen looked like they were not starting so either subbing or not in 23.
Zebo was wearing a black top so who knows!  
No sign of Earls or Johne at all.
Casey looks to be starting.

That is all for the moment!

Munster:
15 Felix Jones;
14 Keith Earls,
13 Casey Laulala,
12 James Downey,
11 Simon Zebo;
10 Ian Keatley,
09 Duncan Williams;
1 Dave Kilycoyne,
2 Mike Sherry,
3 Stephen Archer;
4 Donncha Ryan,
5 Paul O’Connell;
6 Peter O’Mahony Capt.,
7 Niall Ronan,
8 James Coughlan.
Replacements: Damien Varley, James Cronin, BJ Botha, Donncha O’Callaghan, CJ Stander, Conor Murray, JJ Hanrahan, Denis Hurley.

Got the 1-10 right anyway!

Can't see Stander staying at Munster if he isn't consistently in the starting team.

Might we see a try or two for a change?

The Saint wrote:Might we see a try or two for a change?

 26 tries between them in the Rabo so far (both have had two try bonus games each so far).

Munster's defence has been awful as well  

The Saint wrote:Might we see a try or two for a change?

Maybe buuuuut a certain monsieur Poite is taking charge of the game!  

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Can't see Stander staying at Munster if he isn't consistently in the starting team.

I'm sure he will earn a starting spot some point this season.

Otherwise Ulster will take him.  

I spotted this on the rabodirect website earlier. JJ putting Keatley under pressure although I hope Keatley gets a decent run of games this season. No need to rush JJ.


Kicking accuracy

Steven Shingler
Scarlets
11/11
100%

JJ Hanrahan
Munster
14/15
93.33%

Harry Leonard
Edinburgh
11/12
91.67%

Luciano Orquera
Zebre
16/19
84.21%

Leigh Halfpenny
Cardiff Blues
10/12
83.33%

Dan Biggar
Ospreys
21/26
80.77%

Jimmy Gopperth
Leinster
13/17
76.47%

Jason Tovey
Dragons
9/12
75.00%

Rhys Priestland
Scarlets
7/10
70.00%

Rhys Patchell
Cardiff Blues
11/16
68.75%

BOD out for Leinster.


LEINSTER:
15: Rob Kearney
14: Fergus McFadden
13: Lote Tuqiri
12: Gordon D'Arcy
11: Dave Kearney
10: Ian Madigan
9: Eoin Reddan
1: Cian Healy
2: Sean Cronin
3: Mike Ross
4: Mike McCarthy
5: Devin Toner
6: Kevin McLaughlin
7: Sean O'Brien
8: Jamie Heaslip CAPTAIN
REPLACEMENTS:
16: Aaron Dundon
17: Jack McGrath
18: Martin Moore
19: Rhys Ruddock
20: Dominic Ryan
21: Isaac Boss
22: Jimmy Gopperth
23: Luke Fitzgerald

REFEREE: Romain Poite (FFR), ASSISTANT REFEREES: Stuart Gaffikin, Michael Black (both IRFU), TMO: Simon McDowell (IRFU)

Tiquiri at 13??? Has he ever played there before?

Out of the 46 players involved tommorow, a grand total of 4 of them are not IQ!

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Out of the 46 players involved tommorow, a grand total of 4 of them are not IQ!

And only 2 starting! Stander is also an NIQ but 5 NIQs isn't too bad at all.

Not very impressed by Tuqiri at outside centre,Macken has been playing well and is more deserving of a shot imo.

asoreleftshoulder wrote:Not very impressed by Tuqiri at outside centre,Macken has been playing well and is more deserving of a shot imo.

Agree.

asoreleftshoulder wrote:Not very impressed by Tuqiri at outside centre,Macken has been playing well and is more deserving of a shot imo.

Agreed. It does look as if they are looking to get their money’s worth for the 3 months he is here. I can't recall Tuqiri ever playing centre and I was never overly impressed with him defensively. Glad hes facing Laulala and not Earls. I think earls would murder him for pace.

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Out of the 46 players involved tommorow, a grand total of 4 of them are not IQ!

Nice stat. Hope it is a belter. Wish list:

-Kick off with a full blown brawl.
-Then both teams run it end to end for 80 minutes. 4 tries each. Drawn game 1 minute left.
-Madigan wins the match by chipping it ahead in his own goal area, collects, side steps a few and runs the length of the pitch.

Not a lot to ask really is it?

profitius wrote:

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Out of the 46 players involved tommorow, a grand total of 4 of them are not IQ!

And only 2 starting! Stander is also an NIQ but 5 NIQs isn't too bad at all.

I counted Stander?

Our lineout could struggle if anything happens to Toner,we've no cover on the bench and Munster are pretty strong in that area.

LeinsterFan4life wrote:

profitius wrote:

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Out of the 46 players involved tommorow, a grand total of 4 of them are not IQ!

And only 2 starting! Stander is also an NIQ but 5 NIQs isn't too bad at all.

I counted Stander?

BJ Botha, LLL and CJ makes 3 NIQs for Munster.

Should be a good game. I agree Macken should be starting.

2 very strong teams, this game will show that the Rabo is a serious league, I can see this being the game of the weekend in Europe.

the-goon wrote:
I can see this being the game of the weekend in Europe.

We shall see. Leicester/Northampton will be huge in AP, while Toulon host Clermont over in the T14. Clermont may well rest players though, unlike the 4 sides from Ireland and England who will be going at it hammer and tong. Ultimate winners could be Ulster, Castres, Ospreys and Edinburgh who host these sides next week.

This thread is very quiet! Its has only the 4th highest post count so far of the Rabo games on this weekend. Where have all the Munster and Leinster fans gone?

profitius wrote: Where have all the Munster and Leinster fans gone?

They're mostly Leinster fans now.

Whats with Leinster and OC. Its like some kind of Chelsea Pensioners club. Is BOD going to be pushing Lote around in his wheelchair in his zimmer frame?

It will be interesting to see how O'Mahony does as both captain and against one of the top back row units in Europe. I'm fairly sure Munster dominated in that area last season, but that was with the fantastic O'Donnell at 7. Can O'Mahony do it again?

asoreleftshoulder wrote:Not very impressed by Tuqiri at outside centre,Macken has been playing well and is more deserving of a shot imo.

Macken has looked a lot better this season, and is growing with each game. He looks very comfortable right now.

profitius wrote:This thread is very quiet! Its has only the 4th highest post count so far of the Rabo games on this weekend. Where have all the Munster and Leinster fans gone?

Where did Red Stag go

ME-109 wrote:Whats with Leinster and OC. Its like some kind of Chelsea Pensioners club. Is BOD going to be pushing Lote around in his wheelchair in his zimmer frame?

No BOD isnt playing. Tiquiri probably shouldnt either. Wing would have been fine for him. Not overjoyed by this selection. Time will tell.

profitius wrote:This thread is very quiet! Its has only the 4th highest post count so far of the Rabo games on this weekend. Where have all the Munster and Leinster fans gone?

Its quiet because the L'boy blue rinse brigade don't have DK or ROG to whinge about. They are already making excuses for Joe the Messiah and all the Ulster folk are trying hard to come up with reasons why the Irish team should be made up completely of Ulster players...not much reason in getting involved then.